Not a bad theory but you do realize that of all the people who personally knew Kenny, only ONE of them has accused "suicidal." And she has a lot of issues and oddities of her own. Also, Jchuck has searched the area east of the mine pretty extensively. I do agree that Red Rock SAR is not helpful at all because of their own rules about not sharing information and that Susan is misdirecting and discouraging good searchers.
If his plan was to actually do what this video implies and he truly didn't want to be found I think he would have actually camped and made an insanely long hike that no one could do in a day. I watched Jchuck's videos but he doesn't do anything that would take multiple days to get to. I feel that since Kenny told his girlfriend that he was going to be going for a couple days to "find" the M cave, that he truly planned on taking multiple days to get to his final resting spot. Another idea I have is, he actually found the M cave but got lost in it and couldn't find his way out. If it's actually as deep as he suggested it would be very easy to get lost in a large cave. But I find this unlikely because of how many cavers have looked for massive caves in the area.
@@TOTALLY1241 I put no weight into anything the "girlfriend" says because of all her bizarre statements and behavior with this case. She is the only person who knew Kenny to accuse suicide and she is the only person to come up the the "never be found" quote. The problem with hiking into oblivion in that location is water even aside from the very dangerous terrain. It is impossible to carry enough water to go on for days and days and there is really nowhere to resupply it. The loop hike almost killed Kenny and he said he wasent carrying much water at all, adding correct levels of water to his hike would not allow him to go far. The geologists like Silverheals who are involved in this case have convinced me that there is no natural deep caves in that location so that leaves "manmade/military/secret" type entrances. Or paranormal that only open on their own schedule. The more oddities I experience with that location, the more and more I lean toward paranormal "Missing 411" type case.
@@jefcla1172 Depression is a difficult one though. Most people who struggle with it are the best at hiding it and usually only 1 or 2 people will know they are battling it. So, if he was depressed and this was his plan it is likely not many knew how bad it was or that he had it at all. On the other hand, I don't doubt that he might have ventured into the wrong area and airmen came and took him. However, with this thought I feel like they would have released him after realizing that he was no threat and just another youtube. With paranormal, it's hard to say but the fact that there is no evidence of anything he took with himself or of his body, it is strange.
The Jawaher Hejji case you mention is interesting, I had not previously heard of her Robbery and DUI convictions so clearly she had a difficult life which provides motive for an intentional disappearance but also for an unintentional one. As far as Kenny's disappearance being intentional, I'm not so sure. Not saying that's not what happened but there are no facts to prove it. My opinion is that Kenny disappeared out there either intentionally or unintentionally and is likely still there but you know as well as I do that the area is so vast, it would be pure luck if he was ever found. The only thing that Kenny said that has been proven was that he could disappear out there and never be found again.
him saying that combined with everything else all adds up to what I call "virtually unsearchable".. factoring in that a person who knows they will die shortly I cant envision him putting that much into hiding his remains. But as I said that anyone that even goes in among trees and bush slightly may NEVER be found. especially with all the other stuff such as high altitude--damaging to vehicles to go up there, money, planning, free time cuts WAY down on searchers or even casual hikers so he may never be found
The one person who claims that he was suicidal is the same one person who came up with the "never be found" quote. She is as unreliable as the rest of his family.
@@JChuckVlogs yes and to avoid a total gridwork which is impossible the only thing to cut the odds down a bit is to try to project our minds into his as he was desperately failing at everything and losing the house etc--and went up pretty much unprepared even worse than usual. So the first part--the beginning is I cannot envision someone going up with supplies for no reason except to make it as far as he could to hide himself-that is ruled out because he did not have to go there let alone leave the phone. So thats part of the equation too. so he left a sign sort of as goodby by intentionally leaving the mystery so at least they would KNOW he was up there--BUT COULD NOT FIND HIM.. Next comes "how much effort would a person put in knowing they were about to kill themself and in depression into hiding themself?? I and others since day one pictured him in cave and "pull in or across the opening some bushes". thats pretty much the cliche everyone uses the past years or hid in mine but he would know thats where they would go first. (and they did).. He would not go on main ridges in full view and do it--he knows he would be found. He did say I will go for forty days and nights to the north--THAT IS THE BAD PART--what if he walked himself up a ways after going down from the saddle and cutting right past the main huge agave pit to follow along at the base of the mountains. My main theory is "he is not far"--they never are however he would know they would search so he might be in the area of the cairn there at the right east base of the bottom of the saddle but then go up a ways and go in among trees and bushes so as not to be seen and did it. But the point is thats the thought process to avoid searching randomly. I think it will be similar to Brian Laundrie in which I uploaded and ranted he will be close to the car but in among the trees in a small clearing. But there are no areas like that up there and if he went in such as a canyon below those short ledges the types people rest at --he would know all searchers would go to those exact spots. That is why I have said 1) hes there 2)hes LIKELY closer than anyone thinks 3) likely in among bushes and trees in which if the area was barren--he would be visible. if he "went to the north till he dropped" the search is hopeless.
@@jaysilverheals4445 I factored in the possibility of him going north: sector B central and C north of picture canyon but before the trail to Warden’s Cabin. I designated ravines “4 & 5” and beyond on the idea that he kept going north.
Not a bad theory but you do realize that of all the people who personally knew Kenny, only ONE of them has accused "suicidal." And she has a lot of issues and oddities of her own. Also, Jchuck has searched the area east of the mine pretty extensively. I do agree that Red Rock SAR is not helpful at all because of their own rules about not sharing information and that Susan is misdirecting and discouraging good searchers.
If his plan was to actually do what this video implies and he truly didn't want to be found I think he would have actually camped and made an insanely long hike that no one could do in a day. I watched Jchuck's videos but he doesn't do anything that would take multiple days to get to. I feel that since Kenny told his girlfriend that he was going to be going for a couple days to "find" the M cave, that he truly planned on taking multiple days to get to his final resting spot.
Another idea I have is, he actually found the M cave but got lost in it and couldn't find his way out. If it's actually as deep as he suggested it would be very easy to get lost in a large cave. But I find this unlikely because of how many cavers have looked for massive caves in the area.
@@TOTALLY1241 I put no weight into anything the "girlfriend" says because of all her bizarre statements and behavior with this case. She is the only person who knew Kenny to accuse suicide and she is the only person to come up the the "never be found" quote. The problem with hiking into oblivion in that location is water even aside from the very dangerous terrain. It is impossible to carry enough water to go on for days and days and there is really nowhere to resupply it. The loop hike almost killed Kenny and he said he wasent carrying much water at all, adding correct levels of water to his hike would not allow him to go far. The geologists like Silverheals who are involved in this case have convinced me that there is no natural deep caves in that location so that leaves "manmade/military/secret" type entrances. Or paranormal that only open on their own schedule. The more oddities I experience with that location, the more and more I lean toward paranormal "Missing 411" type case.
@@jefcla1172 Depression is a difficult one though. Most people who struggle with it are the best at hiding it and usually only 1 or 2 people will know they are battling it. So, if he was depressed and this was his plan it is likely not many knew how bad it was or that he had it at all.
On the other hand, I don't doubt that he might have ventured into the wrong area and airmen came and took him. However, with this thought I feel like they would have released him after realizing that he was no threat and just another youtube.
With paranormal, it's hard to say but the fact that there is no evidence of anything he took with himself or of his body, it is strange.
The Jawaher Hejji case you mention is interesting, I had not previously heard of her Robbery and DUI convictions so clearly she had a difficult life which provides motive for an intentional disappearance but also for an unintentional one. As far as Kenny's disappearance being intentional, I'm not so sure. Not saying that's not what happened but there are no facts to prove it. My opinion is that Kenny disappeared out there either intentionally or unintentionally and is likely still there but you know as well as I do that the area is so vast, it would be pure luck if he was ever found. The only thing that Kenny said that has been proven was that he could disappear out there and never be found again.
him saying that combined with everything else all adds up to what I call "virtually unsearchable".. factoring in that a person who knows they will die shortly I cant envision him putting that much into hiding his remains. But as I said that anyone that even goes in among trees and bush slightly may NEVER be found. especially with all the other stuff such as high altitude--damaging to vehicles to go up there, money, planning, free time cuts WAY down on searchers or even casual hikers so he may never be found
The one person who claims that he was suicidal is the same one person who came up with the "never be found" quote. She is as unreliable as the rest of his family.
Kenny is there: we will keep pounding the ground until found. Good upload, Jay.
@@JChuckVlogs yes and to avoid a total gridwork which is impossible the only thing to cut the odds down a bit is to try to project our minds into his as he was desperately failing at everything and losing the house etc--and went up pretty much unprepared even worse than usual. So the first part--the beginning is I cannot envision someone going up with supplies for no reason except to make it as far as he could to hide himself-that is ruled out because he did not have to go there let alone leave the phone. So thats part of the equation too. so he left a sign sort of as goodby by intentionally leaving the mystery so at least they would KNOW he was up there--BUT COULD NOT FIND HIM.. Next comes "how much effort would a person put in knowing they were about to kill themself and in depression into hiding themself?? I and others since day one pictured him in cave and "pull in or across the opening some bushes". thats pretty much the cliche everyone uses the past years or hid in mine but he would know thats where they would go first. (and they did).. He would not go on main ridges in full view and do it--he knows he would be found. He did say I will go for forty days and nights to the north--THAT IS THE BAD PART--what if he walked himself up a ways after going down from the saddle and cutting right past the main huge agave pit to follow along at the base of the mountains.
My main theory is "he is not far"--they never are however he would know they would search so he might be in the area of the cairn there at the right east base of the bottom of the saddle but then go up a ways and go in among trees and bushes so as not to be seen and did it.
But the point is thats the thought process to avoid searching randomly. I think it will be similar to Brian Laundrie in which I uploaded and ranted he will be close to the car but in among the trees in a small clearing. But there are no areas like that up there and if he went in such as a canyon below those short ledges the types people rest at --he would know all searchers would go to those exact spots. That is why I have said 1) hes there
2)hes LIKELY closer than anyone thinks
3) likely in among bushes and trees in which if the area was barren--he would be visible.
if he "went to the north till he dropped" the search is hopeless.
@@jaysilverheals4445 I factored in the possibility of him going north: sector B central and C north of picture canyon but before the trail to Warden’s Cabin. I designated ravines “4 & 5” and beyond on the idea that he kept going north.