Roc-A-Fella Co- Founder "Biggs" Talks Signing Kanye West, Jay-z's Success + Prison Lessons

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2016
  • Roc-A-Fella Records Co-Founder Kareem ‘Biggs’ Burke was in the studio with Angie Martinez while out doing his promo runs for the 20 year anniversary of 'Reasonable Doubt' which is being celebrated with events, merchandise and pop-up shops.
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  • @letn3845
    @letn3845 7 лет назад +127

    Jay dame and Biggs out here making power plays separate . That's real growth . Salute to them

    • @SlapBoxCity
      @SlapBoxCity 7 лет назад +5

      dame aint doing shit.... biggs aint doin shit bc he just got out of prison

    • @karlieredd8863
      @karlieredd8863 7 лет назад +11

      Amir G You know you a new nigga, both them men about they business and you can never count real hustlers out. But you don't know nothing about shaking and moving. Salute to the REAL ONES.

    • @KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997
      @KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997 7 лет назад

      Dame ain't got no fucking money...that's why that nigga always bitter and angry!!!! smh

    • @JayPoe06
      @JayPoe06 7 лет назад +2

      pipimp100 Dame got bread but he ain't showing it

    • @PEACEBRINGER200
      @PEACEBRINGER200 7 лет назад +6

      @pipimp100 CHOKE NO JOKE is that you ???

  • @ajthegreat07
    @ajthegreat07 7 лет назад +45

    Man he sounds like a humble version of Dame

  • @iAmTaiBoogie
    @iAmTaiBoogie 7 лет назад +34

    Damn before hearing biggs speak i thought he was gon be all hood, but hes very well spoken, down to earth and humble

    • @vaqueen3445
      @vaqueen3445 7 лет назад +1

      Really

    • @garyloten-beckford889
      @garyloten-beckford889 7 лет назад +2

      iAmTaiBoogie well spoken lol

    • @vaqueen3445
      @vaqueen3445 7 лет назад

      Gary LotenBeckford hjkjho

    • @ftnrbhmwk
      @ftnrbhmwk 7 лет назад +4

      he's not humble, he's a shark...... You can't trust ppl like him.. In the movie THE GODFATHER, Marlin Brando was a Boss , softly spoken, and vicious.... Just like AL PACHINO was the same way in the GODFATHER

    • @lilbowwowy
      @lilbowwowy 7 лет назад

      *soft spoken

  • @vaqueen3445
    @vaqueen3445 7 лет назад +18

    Biggs and Jay Z have almost the same chill personality

  • @tharealcommentator6777
    @tharealcommentator6777 7 лет назад +35

    I think OG picked the right forum to conduct his interview on, instead of 'The Charlemagne circus club'. Biggs, is not for controversy-drama just business. This interview was straight business. Glad to see him come out from behind the scenes 💯

    • @pedrogates3189
      @pedrogates3189 5 лет назад

      ThaReal Commentator he did the breakfast club

  • @Karceno4Life
    @Karceno4Life 7 лет назад +57

    a real interview thank god

    • @etal7723
      @etal7723 7 лет назад

      Lucky Luciano haahhaH

    • @TheBlk1boi
      @TheBlk1boi 7 лет назад +9

      Karceno4Life .....IT'S A GOOD INTERVIEW, JUST DON'T RUN AND DO YOUR FAKE ASS VERISON OF AN UNTOLD TRUTH OF BIGGS!

    • @pelvicthrust119
      @pelvicthrust119 7 лет назад

      Karceno4Life I thought you didn't watch this shit?

    • @Karceno4Life
      @Karceno4Life 7 лет назад +3

      pelvicthrust119 this isnt the breakfast club this is angie martinez

    • @bb-me9in
      @bb-me9in 7 лет назад

      +Karceno4Life i got a buisness propersition 4 u

  • @yadig3503
    @yadig3503 7 лет назад +50

    Title should be "Biggs talks" lol

  • @jasonbroomfield7199
    @jasonbroomfield7199 7 лет назад +114

    Nigga look like jay Williams

    • @mesi9018
      @mesi9018 7 лет назад +4

      U not lying lmao

    • @andrehaynes1305
      @andrehaynes1305 7 лет назад +3

      man just like his ass

    • @b.kawhi-it7214
      @b.kawhi-it7214 7 лет назад

      jason broomfield no he looks like black british actor Idris Elba. You know that guy that starred in Daddy's Little Girls

    • @stopbeingakeyboardkillermo4112
      @stopbeingakeyboardkillermo4112 7 лет назад

      Shouldn't be the other way around? Biggs is older than J Williams!

    • @joejsimpson3775
      @joejsimpson3775 7 лет назад

      u talkin the junk yard dog

  • @chargers1783
    @chargers1783 7 лет назад +23

    He looks like Jay Willams.

  • @2pacobama626
    @2pacobama626 7 лет назад +31

    *If HoV and NaS can squash beef, I want to see HoV, DaMe, BigGz, and Ye in the same room. That would complete my golden era nostalgia along with a Snoop & Dre album, and another OuTkaSt joint*..........and a *Lauryn Hill follow-up to the Miseducation*

    • @missthickbri
      @missthickbri 7 лет назад

      right

    • @vaqueen3445
      @vaqueen3445 7 лет назад +2

      B L V C K H O L E S M V T T E R - I would love to see all of this

    • @nicholasdelgado6949
      @nicholasdelgado6949 6 лет назад +1

      Sad thing is it will never happen

    • @pedrogates3189
      @pedrogates3189 5 лет назад

      True but I’d like to see jay Biggs dame bleek n beans all in one room that was crew I came up on along with free

  • @thapowerexchange
    @thapowerexchange 7 лет назад +3

    Biggs saying that Roca fella was all "relational" explains why Beans speaks on his time there with so much emotion. if you're perceptive, and you were a Rochead like I was, you could see that family environment they displayed. happy 20th Reasonable Doubt. thanks Jay, Dame and Biggs for showing us black power

  • @galvatron3290
    @galvatron3290 7 лет назад +1

    Great Interview, Glad To See This Dude Back At It Again😎

  • @joejsimpson3775
    @joejsimpson3775 7 лет назад +6

    hands down,greatest album of all time,,i've owned it atleast 4 diff times,anytimes i lost it ,had to get another,,,not many albums you can just let it play ,start to finish and every songs a smash

  • @Blackuno3
    @Blackuno3 7 лет назад +9

    Great interview Angie!!! biggs that dude

  • @jt9096
    @jt9096 7 лет назад +6

    Love his Vibe Grown & Chill ...

  • @leanderdale6292
    @leanderdale6292 7 лет назад +39

    No Disrespect to Roc-A-Fella, Bad Boy, Cash Money and Death Row records but nobody mentions No Limit when you talk about Biggest Rap Labels. No Limit is the world's number one rap label of all time. This is not opinion. It's a fact! Look it up! They have out sold of these record companies in album sells. Start giving credit where is credit is due. Master P set the standard on selling and marketing records. He was the pioneer of independently owning his own record label. He set the Blueprint on Hustling records with the Influence of J not Z but the Prince.

    • @henrycooper7136
      @henrycooper7136 7 лет назад

      Leander Dale

    • @shownarickbrake2771
      @shownarickbrake2771 7 лет назад +4

      Leander Dale Good shit. I see you know hip hop

    • @TheeCoachg
      @TheeCoachg 7 лет назад +2

      Leander Dale thats why they dont mention it! NY wants to be the forefront for everything in Hip Hip.

    • @vincentlewis8732
      @vincentlewis8732 6 лет назад +2

      Leander Dale the only reason they don't mention it is because no limit was 100% independent... when the white man doesn't have his hands in it then it's considered "unofficial "

    • @thesemfnnutts
      @thesemfnnutts 6 лет назад +2

      No Limit was at the right place at the right time. The only dope rappers they had was Snoop and Mystical and they were transplants from other labels. I give them props and unlike most of you, I bought pretty much everything with the tank on it. But they had a bunch of below average to weak rappers, they just got over due to the Master P marketing hype (which I respect BTW). But to say they were the greatest label of all time and say it's not your opinion but facts? Nah

  • @ldydanielle
    @ldydanielle 7 лет назад +13

    He got that smooth serial killer type vibe

    • @lean2298
      @lean2298 7 лет назад +1

      ldydanielle he a street nigga

    • @tiasmith1313
      @tiasmith1313 6 лет назад +2

      With his fine ass

  • @neopro4k541
    @neopro4k541 7 лет назад +3

    I was fucking with Reasonable Doubt from day one...! Politics as Usual is the shit..!

  • @jeremiahpadilla4466
    @jeremiahpadilla4466 7 лет назад +6

    Respect for this man and what he's done for hip hop

  • @DocHicksTv
    @DocHicksTv 7 лет назад +5

    Great Interview

  • @Flowofwisdom
    @Flowofwisdom 7 лет назад +9

    One time for Angie Mar! Dope interview with Biggs. #Salute #flowofwisdom

  • @KeeksSnoogie79
    @KeeksSnoogie79 7 лет назад +8

    Biggs look way more handsome since he got out, love him :D always have. Been the realest. I love him, Jay and Dame forever and respect what they did.

  • @ruddiato
    @ruddiato 7 лет назад +39

    he should be on the breakfast club,they get straight to the point and ask the juicy questions that ppl wanna get the answers to

    • @jamalbryant8099
      @jamalbryant8099 7 лет назад +5

      yeah like "are you a player, how many girls you bed? smh

    • @joemaddog5641
      @joemaddog5641 7 лет назад +4

      ruddiato because Angy is basically a dinosaur. She's old enough to be a grandmother how her and flex are even still relevant. Is beyond me. Or still on the Radio.

    • @jamalbryant8099
      @jamalbryant8099 7 лет назад +16

      Joe Kelz it's called mature interview, stupid, i know you kids want to hear drama and fights, but some ppl want to hear a decent interview for a change

    • @VernBizNess
      @VernBizNess 7 лет назад

      ruddiato NAH. She need to Skate

    • @ruddiato
      @ruddiato 7 лет назад

      money laundering

  • @LilBert1234
    @LilBert1234 7 лет назад

    We need more interview like this. Thanks Angie! #Legends #Learn

  • @thagreatfrank3071
    @thagreatfrank3071 7 лет назад +1

    Great Interview that shirt is super dope!!

  • @therealflamelit
    @therealflamelit 7 лет назад +37

    Biggs was the realist dude on the ROC..lookin like AZ uncle lol

    • @iAmNyC718
      @iAmNyC718 7 лет назад +5

      Dead tho.... I was saying damn him and AZ look alike... LOL thats crazy!

  • @Firmbiz101
    @Firmbiz101 7 лет назад +2

    Reasonable Doubt... Was one of my go to albums... Still is... I can still remember the first time I heard Dead Presidents.... Omg

  • @Ana-dq7lw
    @Ana-dq7lw 7 лет назад +3

    Definition of Grind! Side Note: His smile is infectious lol

  • @nhoodjazz
    @nhoodjazz 7 лет назад +31

    He's not bitter

    • @neanam
      @neanam 7 лет назад +5

      Not at tall

    • @RichieDavid83
      @RichieDavid83 7 лет назад +1

      nhoodjazz nope not at all.

    • @makehumanitygreatagain8128
      @makehumanitygreatagain8128 7 лет назад +3

      looooool

    • @GamingWitRad
      @GamingWitRad 7 лет назад +1

      nhoodjazz

    • @rickjames7483
      @rickjames7483 7 лет назад

      Jay looking out for him. He also looking out for Emory Jones. People get on Jay, but he looks out for those who have been loyal.

  • @Bweemz313
    @Bweemz313 7 лет назад

    Excellent interview!!

  • @mccapponowizard
    @mccapponowizard 7 лет назад +1

    SOLID INTERVIEW

  • @antbuddie8809
    @antbuddie8809 7 лет назад +12

    dont forget NO LIMIT RECORDS Angie Mar.

  • @cartagenaucme
    @cartagenaucme 7 лет назад

    That music set the mood as soon as the video came on!!

  • @ediesmiles1
    @ediesmiles1 7 лет назад +1

    I love his smile! Your so humble!!!!!!!!

  • @Tish_69
    @Tish_69 7 лет назад

    Dope interview 👍🏾

  • @Stonecoldalston
    @Stonecoldalston 7 лет назад +50

    Roc might def be top 3 but Def Jam have to be #1 all the legendary Artists they had

    • @MrFlyVisuals
      @MrFlyVisuals 7 лет назад +4

      Ronnie Alston Bad Boys had a lot of artist as well Biggie,112, Mase, Diddy, Lox, Faith Evans, Carl Thomas, Loon, Mario Winans, Total, Etc. so Bad boy wins in that respect.

    • @ralphthompson355
      @ralphthompson355 7 лет назад

      Ronnie Alston true, and it's not even close! They're the foundation of it all.

    • @megga0
      @megga0 7 лет назад +2

      you're bugging. Every company you just mention emulated def jam. from the clothing companies to TV shows. Russell taught this guys everything.

    • @RufflyfeTV
      @RufflyfeTV 7 лет назад +6

      DEF JAM wasn't/isn't an indie label...that's why it wasn't mentioned

    • @dhastings13
      @dhastings13 7 лет назад +3

      Yo... watch Krush Groove. That's the Def Jam homie was talking about... back when it was a label like the rest of em

  • @ATLANTICVISIONS
    @ATLANTICVISIONS 7 лет назад +3

    The most important label was Sugar Hill Records, a record label specializing in hip hop music that was founded in 1979 by husband and wife Joe and Sylvia Robinson.

  • @tyronjcoleman
    @tyronjcoleman 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you Angie !!!! I remember Dash was all about agression to push the movement; "Why those jackets got Def Jam and our artists wearing them at the show, swap it out with the Roca wear jackets, put Rocafella on da back!"

  • @MoneyOverFame
    @MoneyOverFame 7 лет назад

    Dope interview.

  • @misterm901
    @misterm901 7 лет назад +3

    Sometimes it takes the worst situation to bring out the best in you. Jail time is like a forced meditation because you have lots of time to think without outside influences. However, it's up to the individual whether he uses that time for self redemption or self hatred. Living and learning is what life is about.

  • @76yaadie
    @76yaadie 7 лет назад

    These are the great ones. They are behind the scenes and you never hear from them but they drive everything.

  • @coreymason7748
    @coreymason7748 7 лет назад +1

    "Sometimes the Journey is more important than the destination" ......#classic

  • @feelgoodmusiq4512
    @feelgoodmusiq4512 7 лет назад +1

    Salute to Biggs. That album/movement was theme music to my street hustles and also played a big part in me advancing to legal hustles before the game destroyed me. Much love brother.

  • @Christian900
    @Christian900 7 лет назад +1

    Glad Kareem Biggs is back, I always wondered what to him . Good to see here still here

  • @JohnWilliams-uy7xg
    @JohnWilliams-uy7xg 7 лет назад +1

    I literally listen to Reasonable Doubt everyday. Dead Presidents is the theme song of my life.

  • @RONJAE212003
    @RONJAE212003 7 лет назад +2

    He is cool as a fan. Love men like him. He is s magnet

  • @markx8608
    @markx8608 7 лет назад

    5 minutes in a this is a dope interview

  • @tonystark8920
    @tonystark8920 7 лет назад +4

    I really need dat t shirt 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @galiii999
    @galiii999 7 лет назад +16

    he's hot af 😩

  • @damonlconnor
    @damonlconnor 7 лет назад +2

    Biggs is such a level headed dude... Definitely was the nucleus to Roc-A-Fella Records. Roc- A- Fella is top 3 hip hop label after Def Jam & Bad boy.

    • @damonlconnor
      @damonlconnor 7 лет назад

      I like cashmoney records but It's not always about the amount of records a company sold but more importantly about the kind of quality artistes that record label produced over the years and the impact they had on the overall industry. 

  • @MikeyDavis
    @MikeyDavis 7 лет назад +11

    My big brother, was BIGGS brother

    • @kaelonfrancois8134
      @kaelonfrancois8134 7 лет назад +6

      biggie smalls nigga

    • @hateisasignofenvy651
      @hateisasignofenvy651 7 лет назад +3

      TechTechInc BIGGIE smalls fool

    • @MikeyDavis
      @MikeyDavis 7 лет назад +9

      [Produced by DJ Toomp]
      [Intro]
      Stadium status
      [Hook]
      My big brother was B.I.G.'s brother
      Used to be Dame and Biggs' brother
      Who was Hip Hop brother, who was No I.D. friend
      No I.D. my mentor, now let the story begin

  • @markx8608
    @markx8608 7 лет назад

    To this day, a super dope album.....for all kinds of reasons!!!

  • @albertjackson9507
    @albertjackson9507 7 лет назад

    I'm happy your free Biggs god bless you bro and in your future plans one love

  • @cbaabc4889
    @cbaabc4889 7 лет назад

    such grace in angies interviewing skills.

  • @nicholasverando6005
    @nicholasverando6005 7 лет назад +1

    legends. they taught me how to get money. respect

  • @smileysmiley2492
    @smileysmiley2492 7 лет назад +39

    DON'T FORGET NO LIMIT!!

    • @brianpayne4890
      @brianpayne4890 7 лет назад

      NO LIMIT COULD BE TOP 5 NOT TOP 3

    • @desolatecarpediem3525
      @desolatecarpediem3525 7 лет назад +1

      jermaine ford facts!!!!

    • @ROB566100
      @ROB566100 7 лет назад +1

      jermaine ford P was first

    • @1st.870
      @1st.870 7 лет назад

      jermaine ford Or G-unit

    • @hoodfellah
      @hoodfellah 7 лет назад

      +Robby Greene no one did it better than the roc

  • @Noelle.Tyler90
    @Noelle.Tyler90 7 лет назад

    I now recognize him from Young Gunz "Cant Stop Wont Stop" video. He was standing in the background with his son who looks exactly him. He actually looks younger now than he did back then in that 2003 video. Nice t-shirt by the way. Definitely a few people missing from it though.

  • @tipp0183
    @tipp0183 7 лет назад +2

    He's definitely the level headed one out of him and Dame.

  • @denthamc
    @denthamc 7 лет назад +6

    where can I get that family tree shirt. It's not on the website.

  • @andrebrown4862
    @andrebrown4862 7 лет назад

    you can tell he's very important to roc-a-fella because every major influencer in a business is soft spoken. you look at slim with cash money, never really talk or heard of but was a big chess player in the company

  • @KMas89
    @KMas89 7 лет назад +1

    the legend of Biggs

  • @PassportKings
    @PassportKings 7 лет назад +4

    We need an interview with Dame, Biggs and Jay-Z

    • @dwilliams854
      @dwilliams854 4 года назад

      Passport Kings Travel Dame’s too unpredictable

  • @charlita25
    @charlita25 7 лет назад +1

    He very smart and well spoken

  • @ChiChi_Shaw
    @ChiChi_Shaw 7 лет назад

    Congrats to Biggs and thank u for being true and giving credit where credit is worth.

  • @SuperRomero25
    @SuperRomero25 7 лет назад

    love the shirt..... desiigner on it!!!!!

  • @soundsfamilia
    @soundsfamilia 7 лет назад

    What a legend. like his aura

  • @evelynbrown7198
    @evelynbrown7198 2 года назад

    kindred spirit ✨✨✨

  • @IvanOrdell
    @IvanOrdell 7 лет назад +8

    Where can I buy that t-shirt???

  • @msjones4you16
    @msjones4you16 7 лет назад +1

    Ski's production on that album is crazy

  • @peteroc4
    @peteroc4 7 лет назад +58

    So Angie's show is Breakfast Club Light?

    • @sayso1080
      @sayso1080 7 лет назад +3

      brunch or some wack shit. she aint got the juice no more

    • @MoneyOverFame
      @MoneyOverFame 7 лет назад +2

      peteroc4 lol extremely light

    • @nicholasverando6005
      @nicholasverando6005 7 лет назад +9

      this is hip hop. pay attention.

    • @SlapBoxCity
      @SlapBoxCity 7 лет назад +8

      @MoneyOverFame yes Extremely light.... i love angie but her show is boring afv'55m

    • @maxdondada
      @maxdondada 7 лет назад

      LOL

  • @echad6259
    @echad6259 7 лет назад +3

    I want that shirt

  • @jayt0321
    @jayt0321 7 лет назад

    Thank you Biggs

  • @SuperRomero25
    @SuperRomero25 7 лет назад

    I didn't know about Biggs til last year and he was part of rockafella

  • @YouCanChangeYourWorldToday
    @YouCanChangeYourWorldToday 7 лет назад

    Lmao did he just make up that last part where he says students with a student i.d. card get a discount ? 😂😂😂 think fast. Haha

  • @DEVINEJUSTICEALLAH72
    @DEVINEJUSTICEALLAH72 7 лет назад +1

    Def Jam is the most iconic hip hop label!!

  • @JromeT462
    @JromeT462 7 лет назад

    S/o my Bro Allblck and the success of the Roc pop Up shop in soho

  • @realelz87
    @realelz87 7 лет назад

    legend

  • @kfc667
    @kfc667 7 лет назад +2

    yall should boost/increase the volume of the videos before yall upload it, the volume is always low

  • @smdsmd2564
    @smdsmd2564 7 лет назад

    back in tha 90'$ Defjam , Interscope , Loud to 3 lables

  • @blocc16
    @blocc16 7 лет назад

    oh shit...lemme watch this shit

  • @samuel7385
    @samuel7385 7 лет назад +19

    Thought this was Tank in the thumbnail lol

    • @vaqueen3445
      @vaqueen3445 7 лет назад +1

      😂😂

    • @Ronc224
      @Ronc224 7 лет назад

      VA Queen ronc224 come listen to me

    • @KingDavidTBE
      @KingDavidTBE 7 лет назад

      Samuel Birku Same 😭

  • @Aryanbrotherhoodboxing
    @Aryanbrotherhoodboxing 7 лет назад +1

    Nuff respect ✊ K. Big

  • @mrgiles704
    @mrgiles704 7 лет назад

    I need that family tree tee

  • @DukeDeNiroDollas
    @DukeDeNiroDollas 6 лет назад

    Heard Reasonable Doubt at 6 years old im 26 now...

  • @BigKFlo1
    @BigKFlo1 7 лет назад

    I never even seen this guy til this interview

  • @sashaobama2919
    @sashaobama2919 Год назад

    I love collages

  • @Lppolymath90
    @Lppolymath90 7 лет назад +3

    Where's Sauce Money in that Roc hierarchy?

  • @rocklifeentertainment8486
    @rocklifeentertainment8486 7 лет назад

    Sometimes the Journey is More Important than the Destination. MESSAGE

  • @albertjackson9507
    @albertjackson9507 7 лет назад

    Bobs picture should be on that shirt Biggs come on....i'm from the BX i played against Bob in Roberto Clemente and although i wasn't good friends with him ...he and i always talked on the courts and he was by far a stand up guy...And a man before his time, not to mention a great basic ball player. Biggs i remember seeing you coaching if im not wrong and Jay z sitting in the bleachers white tee and shorts and up towns. seeing you guy in River Park Towers ...that was my hood...I always looked up to you dudes...and off the record you was the first i ever seen with the legend and wide body blazer....Bobs death really effected and i wanted to do a Bob Burk Basketball tourney in CT but i didnt wanna over step my boundries...but i looked up to you dudes...and dave sweet..hot dogg..fill flavorand smiley

  • @anointedhands4130
    @anointedhands4130 7 лет назад

    Salute Biggs!

  • @adamkaye384
    @adamkaye384 7 лет назад

    biggs got the best interveiws!

  • @RichieDavid83
    @RichieDavid83 7 лет назад

    yo Angie sound like she tell ghost stories when she gets excited and laughs.

  • @JayPoe06
    @JayPoe06 7 лет назад +1

    smart dude

  • @rossrivares8129
    @rossrivares8129 7 лет назад

    "My big brother was Biggs brother." I finally got that line from Big Brother smfh

    • @Nigmatics
      @Nigmatics 7 лет назад

      Ross Rivares that line was about Jayz being B.I.G's "brother", not Biggs from rocafella.

  • @Iluv2bblk
    @Iluv2bblk 7 лет назад +11

    Epic legacy HBO series about Jay and Dame Dash and Kareem Biggs

  • @hoodfellah
    @hoodfellah 7 лет назад

    When's the pop up shop and where?

  • @koreysylver9276
    @koreysylver9276 4 года назад +1

    “Biggs the smart one, on the low like Dean Martin”

  • @reddricmorales2300
    @reddricmorales2300 7 лет назад

    He had a cameo in Paid In Full. He's in the passenger seat in the white Mercedes with Dame Dash.

  • @coreyochai674
    @coreyochai674 7 лет назад

    dope

  • @ButchBrown7
    @ButchBrown7 7 лет назад

    invaluable knowledge..awesome interview!! Butch Brown 7..Slave Laws 777