Bach's Four-Part Chorale Writing - Music Composition

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  • @MusicMattersGB
    @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +3

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  • @jayducharme
    @jayducharme Год назад +24

    What a great lesson! I love how you rarely discount any musical choices; they're just that -- choices -- and some can be more effective than others.

  • @Offshoreorganbuilder
    @Offshoreorganbuilder Год назад +13

    Like most people, I find certain chord progressions very satisfying, but never understood how you to choose the best ones, so thanks for this enlightening this video!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +2

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  • @MrDanilop45
    @MrDanilop45 2 месяца назад +1

    Loved it a lot. This is not just a good example it is also a deep inside in the process of thinking it. Thank you a lot.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 месяца назад +1

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 Год назад +2

    I'm watching this for a third time, and learning each time. Gareth showed the Rule of the Octave, and that changed my life. What impresses me is Professor Green's musical knowledge, but also his ability to explain everything in such a clear step by step fashion.
    But what really impresses me is that Gareth is able to sit at a keyboard and his fingers have been trained to do this on the fly. I'm going to be practicing my cadences in every key until it becomes second nature. Then I will move on to the next step.
    Good things come to those who wait.
    Merci beaucoup.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      Thanks for your generous comments. Yes, repeat until it’s second nature.

  • @davidwhite2949
    @davidwhite2949 Год назад +4

    I love these analyses of counterpoint, four-part writing, fugue and writing in the style of Bach.
    Elegant illustration, as well.
    Thanks.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +2

      Most kind. I never tire of engaging with this counterpoint

  • @conforzo
    @conforzo Год назад +10

    I think the 4-part chorale is what is most common to learn about when studying Bach and music in general. Voice leading rules etc, but the more complex way of treating the lines contrapunctaly and not just in vertical voice leading is the real challenge for me. Would really appreciate talking about for example, the Wiedestehe doch der Sunde aria. The foundational concepts are of course the same, but they art of treating lines, imitation etc is what people IMO aren't talking enough about.

  • @larrymack2659
    @larrymack2659 Месяц назад

    Thanks so much! Getting back into big band arranging and going back to the basics has been helping reengage my tools I learned in college

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Месяц назад

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  • @DenisPuscaOfficial
    @DenisPuscaOfficial Год назад +3

    Thank you for this video. I've been looking for a such one for months! Your Videos are very informing and intresting thank you!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

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  • @malzola347
    @malzola347 Год назад +1

    One of the best videos you made on this subject, and that is saying a lot!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @johnparker223
    @johnparker223 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for this - you're a great teacher!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      You’re most kind. Many more resources at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @ToddBrand-n5u
    @ToddBrand-n5u 8 дней назад

    fantastic video, thank you very much!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  7 дней назад

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @andrewfaleatua439
    @andrewfaleatua439 8 месяцев назад

    You're a brilliant teacher. This was so easy to follow. Thank you!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  8 месяцев назад

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  • @paigewheeler2983
    @paigewheeler2983 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this video. It was reaffriming what I was beginning to discover by studying a few Bach pieces. I'm glad that I found some of the things you mentioned, like the use of the 3 chord and inserting a chord that was outside both keys. Yay! Glad that I found your channel.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  9 месяцев назад

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  • @CalebePriester
    @CalebePriester Год назад +2

    Another great lesson. Like you have said, there's more than one possibility to go about harmozing the melody. Instead of going ii-V-I in both cadences I guess we could have used Vsus-V-I in the first cadence and this way we could have achieved more variety.

  • @malzola347
    @malzola347 Год назад +2

    I've seen all your videos about 4part harmony, fantastic stuff. In all of them if I'm not wrong, the melody lies in the upper voice. I imagine there are special adjustments to make to ensure the melody is clearly heard if on the bass or the tenor. I think it would be a really interesting topic for a new video. Anyway, your videos keep getting better and better, many thanks

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      Many thanks. We will produce more material with melodic lines elsewhere in the texture

  • @steveharvey8156
    @steveharvey8156 Год назад

    Well explained. As a senior (64) I am really enjoying your videos and find grade 6 a big challenging jump from 5, thanks

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      That’s most kind. Yes there’s a leap between those grades. See our Advanced Theory course at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @BazColne
    @BazColne Год назад

    Lots of stuff there to work on. Thanks very much indeed.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

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  • @rogerramjet6615
    @rogerramjet6615 Год назад

    Good lesson. The function of the quaver 7th in the final cadence was very important to Bach in a situation like this because it ameliorates 2 problems which would otherwise arise. 1. It distracts the ear from the fact that the leading note doesn't resolve to the tonic and 2. It distracts the ear from the exposed (hidden) 5th interval occurring between the bass and alto.

  • @msw1174
    @msw1174 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent explanation

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  6 месяцев назад

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  • @paulchamberlain4810
    @paulchamberlain4810 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you. I love Bach's music and am learning harmonization. I had analyzed a number of Bach chorales years ago, but from your teaching I am now seeing the logic of it. The II7-V-I ending is beautiful. I plan on using it for the conclusion of a hymn I am harmonizing. I have enrolled in your Bach Chorale course.

  • @amyferebee
    @amyferebee Год назад

    Love this stuff...Thank You!....🎶😎🎶

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      That’s great. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @erandao
    @erandao 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you maestro!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  6 месяцев назад +1

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @NomeDeArte
    @NomeDeArte Год назад

    Love this kind of videos, so useful!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

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  • @dan27music
    @dan27music Год назад

    Great demo, thank you.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

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  • @jesseth9419
    @jesseth9419 10 месяцев назад

    Nice video!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  10 месяцев назад

      That’s great. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @carlstenger5893
    @carlstenger5893 Год назад

    Great video! Thanks so much!

  • @frankspears4597
    @frankspears4597 Год назад

    Excellent explanation as always

  • @g.p616
    @g.p616 Год назад

    Brilliant!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      That’s kind. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 Год назад +1

    This is beyond my level...for now. I'm trying to sightread 2 part harmonies of Bach now, and trying to play 3 part harmonies. My goodness, it's not as easy as it looks, n'est-ce pas?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      Keep going. You’ll get there. Resources to help at www.mmcourses.co.uk

    • @lawrencetaylor4101
      @lawrencetaylor4101 Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB I watched this and it's starting to make sense. I'm making some progress in my playing ability and it's time to move onward.

  • @paulking2919
    @paulking2919 Год назад +1

    A wonderful lesson! Though I'm not quite sure that I've understood everything, I'll surely revisit this video and hopefully figure it all out.

  • @VEM24
    @VEM24 Год назад

    ... I've been thinking for awhile, what I had been Forgotten about it, hmm... O! :) A! To Thank You for this video! ;)

  • @SportMinsitry
    @SportMinsitry Год назад

    Hello Professor! I ask you one question that off the topic. Can you explain me why and How there is G# in G major chord progression?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      G# would be used to modulate or to create a chromatic decoration.

  • @timdovecool7202
    @timdovecool7202 Год назад

    Nice tuturoial sir.. .. Kindly, consider giving us four part piano playing fingering tactics, especially, batch chorales.

  • @patrickemmanuvela957
    @patrickemmanuvela957 Год назад

    Can u make a video about how to effectively use polychord & what are the great piece ever written using polychord :)

  • @dankleffmann2473
    @dankleffmann2473 Год назад

  • @FrancescaBettiMusic
    @FrancescaBettiMusic Год назад +1

    2--5-1 in jazz come from this?

  • @andrewlord3398
    @andrewlord3398 Год назад

    I had a go at this before watching the video ( last 4 part harmony I did was 40 years ago :) ). I got the same final cadence as you but didn't like the alto F# falling to a D. I seem to remember leading tones more naturally rising back to the tonic. That would then leave a note out of the final G - but I guess it's ok not to have the 5th of the chord present

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      It’s okay not to include the 5th. The question is - does it sound better to include it or not? Also leading notes falling to the 5th of a tonic chord is an exception to the voice leading rule you correctly identify.

    • @andrewlord3398
      @andrewlord3398 Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB Thanks! I have to say, after comparing yours and my solutions - you win :)

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      No worries. It’s not a competition!

    • @andrewlord3398
      @andrewlord3398 Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB It was highly enjoyable to try it again though. But it made me reflect on the exercise - in what way is it useful to do this kind of thing? Do you think it's a bit like learning Latin?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      I think it gives us plenty of musical insight.

  • @Vasioth
    @Vasioth Год назад +1

    Hey Gareth quick question, I thought the leading tone in an outer voice should resolve to the tonic. Does this rule get bypassed because of the modulation when you step down from the Vb chord?
    Fantastic lesson by the way.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      Thanks. You don’t have to be too rigid about applying that advice. Here the modulation is one factor but it’s also about making sure the bass doesn’t get stuck repeating F#/G. V often progresses either to i or to Vi.

  • @BelliniHighTV
    @BelliniHighTV Год назад

    nice!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      That’s most kind. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @johnharringtonguitar6559
    @johnharringtonguitar6559 Год назад

    Great video! You seem to refer to the A minor at the end of the first line as a secondary dominant. I’ve always thought that secondary dominants had to be major. The V chord in minor is minor which would be in support of a secondary dominant being minor. Is this how you’re justifying that?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      Thanks. Secondary Dominants don’t have to be major. Also in the harmonic minor V is a major chord.

    • @johnharringtonguitar6559
      @johnharringtonguitar6559 Год назад

      That’s interesting and expands my thinking. Thank you. I study and play jazz solo guitar and the minor 7ths can be interchanged with dominant 7ths. Pushing that thinking to secondary dominants is a new concept and like I said expands my thinking. Internet research says a minor chord cannot be a dominant because it doesn’t have a leading tone. However, a leading tone is a note which resolves to a note one semitone higher or lower and the 5th of the V chord in minor is a semitone below the root of the I chord.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      Take A minor for example. EG#B is V. G# is the 3rd and that’s a semitone below the tonic. In the natural minor the 3rd is G natural and is therefore a tone below the tonic.

    • @johnharringtonguitar6559
      @johnharringtonguitar6559 Год назад

      Thanks for your response once again! Are you suggesting that leading tone function can still happen with a whole step?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      It can but from V it’s normally a half step eg G# to A in A minor.

  • @simongross3122
    @simongross3122 Год назад

    Nice lesson thanks. Is the II-I movement a common thing? I've normally seen II moving to V.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      We should take care with II-I and some theorists discourage the progression but it works in certain places. The main thing is to avoid parallels. II -V is conventionally a strong progression.

    • @simongross3122
      @simongross3122 Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB Thanks for clarifying

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 17 дней назад

    Just a correction. You used a ii 7b and said that some people would call it ii 7-6. Actually II 7 is in root position. First inversion would be II 6/5.
    I haven’t followed hundreds of hours of your videos while I was asleep, n’est-ce pas?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  17 дней назад

      Which bar and beat are we talking about? I can then check it out.

  • @Tim.G.
    @Tim.G. Год назад

    I dont know too much about songwriting yet but I learn „Air ob the G string“ by Bach. I dont understand how he wrote it. Is it two voices in two different keys?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      It’s a great piece. The parts are in the same key as each other but there’s a melody and an accompaniment.

  • @alcyonecrucis
    @alcyonecrucis 9 месяцев назад

    Just got into orgel buchlein