Headland has stated that the mother was transforming herself and Mae into the Force, which makes her actions even worse when you remember Osha and Jecki’s conversation about killing the bat creatures. Sol absolutely did the right thing, which is not what the series was intending
Not sure about this theory, but perhaps Master Torbin quickly progressed through the ranks because after the incident on Brendok, perhaps he joined another section of the Jedi Order, devoted to maintaining archives, or study texts/holocrons. Sidenote, I googled Olega and I found it absolutely hilarious that the first thing that popped up was a hair remover product. That explains Torbin's hairline...
You guys never fail to put to words my thoughts and even create or inspire new thoughts around Star Wars as a story, and also some insights into the potential thinking about film and tv in general. WISH Torbin had some actual pull towards wanting to go home explained, something that would hold sway over a monk that has trained body and mind for approximately 15 or so years. in the high republic books a book loving padawan is sent with a group of knights to travel away from the jedi temple, and he is reluctant to leave, but over the course of his journey he learns that this single mindedness in interest is kind of a mild flaw, and he begins to see the value of stepping outside of his comfort zone. for someone like Anakin or Ahsoka it's the opposite, the lack of adventure and action is an unliked situation for them. I think we needed more on these characters if this was the kind of story they wanted to tell. I hope writers can learn from this shows success and shortcomings to make more entertaining material going forward. AND YES! WHERE'S MY MIDICHLORIANS!!! (edit: spelling mistakes and punctuation)
You guys are seriously so unbelievably nice to me… you both are the foundations of my show and I love and appreciate you SO MUCH!! I wouldn’t ever say no to a guest appearance 👀👀. Love the chat!!! Can’t wait to see this finale and I hope it finishes strong
Hey guys, thanks again for a good faith break down of the episode. I'd would like to throw out the idea that the reason we are seeing all this Grey instead of Black and White morality, is that the outside world is just now beginning to wrestle with the fact that in life, there is no pure good and evil. This is simply Star Wars' take on that same conversation. Star Wars to date, has sewn the thread of morally Grey into its stories since Obi-Wan in New Hope, this is just a more overt conversation about it. As children we can take comfort in thinking of our enemies as evil, but as we mature, we need to begin to understand that just because others believe differently than we do, that does not make them evil.
My only big issue with the show at the moment is that 3&7 should have opened the series in a single hour long episode. 7 was filled with things we already saw in 3 anyway. Big mysteries are 1. How did Mae survive and meet Qimir? 2. What is Qimir connection to Vernestra?
Your conversation regarding the fallout show and how they weaved their backstory within the present story was spot on. Way too many problems with the show and not any of the actors fault. Imagine if they weaved their flashbacks in this story within other episodes and keeping the run times closer to an hour i think would have greatly benefited. There is absolutely no momentum going into series finale. Comparing this show to other major shows out right now such as the boys and house of dragon, those shows are greatly superior in every way. I’m still hopefully for that home run Star Wars show which encompasses something exciting well written but is fully immersed with Star Wars universe.
On the topic of having two children for the essence transfer, the first thing your discussion reminded me of is Dark Empire. The emperor wanted Leia’s unborn twins for the very reason, is this another example of them mining the Legends canon?
I’m with you guys on this. I think the placement of this episode was totally missed used. I think that this episode should’ve been apart of the 3rd episode. Not being by itself
A great episode as always guys!! I think Seth made an interesting comment about the vergence being created as a result of Qimir killing his master. Great open minded review of this weeks episode!
Planning on a live show next week to wrap up the Acolyte and live chat to all you guys, then after that, 👀. We’re announcing our plans on the show this week! We’ve got some fun planned
Great stream guys - just a quick correction. Obi-Wan was knighted at 25 in TPM, and made a master at 35. Anakin was knighted at 19 at the beginning of the Clone Wars.
Agreed. From Padawan (bad one, at that) to Master in 6 years is weird. How does THIS GUY make Master, then pretty much immediately take the Barash vow.. like what’s the point?
Your thoughts at 57:29 were interesting, and FAR-MORE-INTERESTING than anything we'll be given in the last 32 minutes of an 8-episode series. It is also far-too outside the creativity wheelhouse for the current creative team.
The kylo theme seemed random when watching but thinking on it afterwards I think the theme during the kelnacca fight means it must be tied to the witches power (and therefore the twins) because they are (possibly!) a dyad and Kylo was a dyad with Rey.
Best case is that show gets a new show runner for the next season and delve into adapting a legend sith story live action. Make it prestige hbo style production, writing, and editing. 1 hr long and 8 - 10 episodes. Mage it a TV show, not a long film cut up into TV show format
I was looking forward to The Acolyle but 1st episode when Osha crashed the Jedi would of taken a least a week to get there to recuse her- their is no way without somesort of intervention Osha would of survived. But then the show got worse.
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Glad to finally see the Wookie fight (that was too expensive to film for other offerings? Okie doke.). I do TIRE quickly though of the whole "throwing" propensity of far-more powerful characters in storytelling. If you were holding someone by the head/throat and could pop his head like a pimple, would you really need to worry about lightsabering him in the side? Doubtful. Torbin, who that might have become a Jedi Master after say, losing a leg and overcoming a disability, might have had more reason to kill himself because he couldn't _______________ or that he thought he got his quick ascension to Jedi Master because of his disability - SOMETHING that would give meat to his propensity to kill himself.
Mae delivering ANY information to the Jedi is a complete MISS for me. Mae, and her "Jedi-Bad" inner feelings are completely contradictory to anything she showcases inside this episode to the Jedi. Her stance likely should have been much like a young Sovereign Citizen to the Jedi - which would have added more stark contrast to Osha's want to BE a Jedi.
Overall, I have different likes and dislikes for Star Wars than you two because I can enjoy things that I see have good potential, even if the execution is clunky. For example, I think that’s why I like The Acolyte, Rogue One, and the Last Jedi more than you seem to. On the other hand, you’re not wrong to want good quality and have critiques when it doesn’t deliver, and your criticisms have value. It’s another way we all have our own Star Wars.
No you’re right! Wow. I’m not sure what happened. I take notes while I watch the episode for the first time and I wrote that down. Not sure how I got those wires crossed
Yeah. This show's pretty ass. Though, it's had good and great moments. I was really holding out until what I assumed would be a crazy "penultimate" episode, but I just can't find it in me to get excited about the last episode in any way.
A member perk i suggest is Seth looks into the camera directly at me and says 3 nice things about Darth Maul.
I’m all for it if at the same time a member perk for you is to say 10x “Andor is peak Star Wars. Second. To. None.” 😂
👀
Headland has stated that the mother was transforming herself and Mae into the Force, which makes her actions even worse when you remember Osha and Jecki’s conversation about killing the bat creatures. Sol absolutely did the right thing, which is not what the series was intending
It does. We saw that article after we recorded, unfortunately. But lots of odd revelations there.
Not sure about this theory, but perhaps Master Torbin quickly progressed through the ranks because after the incident on Brendok, perhaps he joined another section of the Jedi Order, devoted to maintaining archives, or study texts/holocrons.
Sidenote, I googled Olega and I found it absolutely hilarious that the first thing that popped up was a hair remover product. That explains Torbin's hairline...
You guys never fail to put to words my thoughts and even create or inspire new thoughts around Star Wars as a story, and also some insights into the potential thinking about film and tv in general.
WISH Torbin had some actual pull towards wanting to go home explained, something that would hold sway over a monk that has trained body and mind for approximately 15 or so years. in the high republic books a book loving padawan is sent with a group of knights to travel away from the jedi temple, and he is reluctant to leave, but over the course of his journey he learns that this single mindedness in interest is kind of a mild flaw, and he begins to see the value of stepping outside of his comfort zone. for someone like Anakin or Ahsoka it's the opposite, the lack of adventure and action is an unliked situation for them. I think we needed more on these characters if this was the kind of story they wanted to tell.
I hope writers can learn from this shows success and shortcomings to make more entertaining material going forward. AND YES! WHERE'S MY MIDICHLORIANS!!! (edit: spelling mistakes and punctuation)
You guys are seriously so unbelievably nice to me… you both are the foundations of my show and I love and appreciate you SO MUCH!! I wouldn’t ever say no to a guest appearance 👀👀.
Love the chat!!! Can’t wait to see this finale and I hope it finishes strong
Like Seth's Dad, I also can't wait to have a Beyond the Dune Sea shirt
"Chose the story telling device before the story"... exactly... they just wanted to be "mysterious"
Did Sol realize which twin watched him kill their mother?
Oh! Good question!
Qui Gonn wasn't LOOKING for a padawan.
Very true! Key difference between the characters
Hey guys, thanks again for a good faith break down of the episode. I'd would like to throw out the idea that the reason we are seeing all this Grey instead of Black and White morality, is that the outside world is just now beginning to wrestle with the fact that in life, there is no pure good and evil. This is simply Star Wars' take on that same conversation. Star Wars to date, has sewn the thread of morally Grey into its stories since Obi-Wan in New Hope, this is just a more overt conversation about it. As children we can take comfort in thinking of our enemies as evil, but as we mature, we need to begin to understand that just because others believe differently than we do, that does not make them evil.
We're all evil. There is no good.
My only big issue with the show at the moment is that 3&7 should have opened the series in a single hour long episode. 7 was filled with things we already saw in 3 anyway.
Big mysteries are 1. How did Mae survive and meet Qimir? 2. What is Qimir connection to Vernestra?
Another great episode! Thanks guys!!
Always glad to hear your guys opinion on anything Star Wars. Been a new favorite channel of mine recently
Thanks so much!
Your conversation regarding the fallout show and how they weaved their backstory within the present story was spot on. Way too many problems with the show and not any of the actors fault. Imagine if they weaved their flashbacks in this story within other episodes and keeping the run times closer to an hour i think would have greatly benefited. There is absolutely no momentum going into series finale. Comparing this show to other major shows out right now such as the boys and house of dragon, those shows are greatly superior in every way. I’m still hopefully for that home run Star Wars show which encompasses something exciting well written but is fully immersed with Star Wars universe.
Seth is Darth Plagueis in the live chats, hes always watching from behind the curtains………..
On the topic of having two children for the essence transfer, the first thing your discussion reminded me of is Dark Empire. The emperor wanted Leia’s unborn twins for the very reason, is this another example of them mining the Legends canon?
I’m with you guys on this. I think the placement of this episode was totally missed used. I think that this episode should’ve been apart of the 3rd episode. Not being by itself
A great episode as always guys!! I think Seth made an interesting comment about the vergence being created as a result of Qimir killing his master. Great open minded review of this weeks episode!
Thank you, Lex!
24:57 I can totally see the similarities between Sol and Qui Gon.
Sometimes you just have to be honest I love you guys and want you to talk freely thanks for the amazing content.
Appreciate that very much!
“Gooood let the hate flow through you”
I genuinely wonder, whether the makers of the show, understood that it would be released weekly.
What will you guys be doing after 8?
Planning on a live show next week to wrap up the Acolyte and live chat to all you guys, then after that, 👀. We’re announcing our plans on the show this week! We’ve got some fun planned
Great stream guys - just a quick correction. Obi-Wan was knighted at 25 in TPM, and made a master at 35. Anakin was knighted at 19 at the beginning of the Clone Wars.
Agreed. From Padawan (bad one, at that) to Master in 6 years is weird. How does THIS GUY make Master, then pretty much immediately take the Barash vow.. like what’s the point?
He probably got a promotion for his silence. I'm being a bit fasciousabout that, but only a little. @@johncoleman7308
Yes! Great call. Thanks for looking out 👊
Your thoughts at 57:29 were interesting, and FAR-MORE-INTERESTING than anything we'll be given in the last 32 minutes of an 8-episode series. It is also far-too outside the creativity wheelhouse for the current creative team.
The kylo theme seemed random when watching but thinking on it afterwards I think the theme during the kelnacca fight means it must be tied to the witches power (and therefore the twins) because they are (possibly!) a dyad and Kylo was a dyad with Rey.
Interesting idea!
Best case is that show gets a new show runner for the next season and delve into adapting a legend sith story live action. Make it prestige hbo style production, writing, and editing. 1 hr long and 8 - 10 episodes. Mage it a TV show, not a long film cut up into TV show format
Nothing wrong with being negative. There's good and bad to everything, sometimes it just so happens there's more bad this weeks episode.
AITA who likes yellow sabers! Got that Bibleman drip haha
Omg! 😆
Rian Johnson is on tape saying that he likes it when 50% of the audience of his films hate it.
I’d watch an episode of you guys in character doing a review 😂
Oh don’t tempt us!
I was looking forward to The Acolyle but 1st episode when Osha crashed the Jedi would of taken a least a week to get there to recuse her- their is no way without somesort of intervention Osha would of survived. But then the show got worse.
El Buueno A La Beautiful Live Act Star Wars episode via Disney+ 😋 - Forever D+ subber who Dislikes Kenobi, Likes The Acolyte, Mostly likes BOBF & Mandalorian. Loves Ahsoka S01 ^^ Dislikes ST & loves PT + OT. Always streams content in a dark room with good audio & visual gear - 🧘♂
Glad to finally see the Wookie fight (that was too expensive to film for other offerings? Okie doke.). I do TIRE quickly though of the whole "throwing" propensity of far-more powerful characters in storytelling. If you were holding someone by the head/throat and could pop his head like a pimple, would you really need to worry about lightsabering him in the side? Doubtful.
Torbin, who that might have become a Jedi Master after say, losing a leg and overcoming a disability, might have had more reason to kill himself because he couldn't _______________ or that he thought he got his quick ascension to Jedi Master because of his disability - SOMETHING that would give meat to his propensity to kill himself.
Kelnacca did nothing wrong lol
Mae delivering ANY information to the Jedi is a complete MISS for me. Mae, and her "Jedi-Bad" inner feelings are completely contradictory to anything she showcases inside this episode to the Jedi. Her stance likely should have been much like a young Sovereign Citizen to the Jedi - which would have added more stark contrast to Osha's want to BE a Jedi.
Episode 7 makes Last Jedi look good
Overall, I have different likes and dislikes for Star Wars than you two because I can enjoy things that I see have good potential, even if the execution is clunky. For example, I think that’s why I like The Acolyte, Rogue One, and the Last Jedi more than you seem to. On the other hand, you’re not wrong to want good quality and have critiques when it doesn’t deliver, and your criticisms have value. It’s another way we all have our own Star Wars.
hey man please add time stamps in the video so we can skip around please
Am i trippin or is episode 7 titled choice? not truth?
No you’re right! Wow. I’m not sure what happened. I take notes while I watch the episode for the first time and I wrote that down. Not sure how I got those wires crossed
@@BeyondTheDuneSea All good! Another great video nonetheless!
Yeah. This show's pretty ass. Though, it's had good and great moments. I was really holding out until what I assumed would be a crazy "penultimate" episode, but I just can't find it in me to get excited about the last episode in any way.