Great video again! I really appreciate you using the Vanquish as a standard comparison versus other high end reels (especially because I have two Vanquishes). Really glad you made this video as I was contemplating getting the next Exist. However, I've come to realize that I really value low inertia over most other attributes for my stop and go style of fishing. Comparing the inertia on my Cardiff Ci4+ to my Vanquish is night and day. The difference in effort it takes the stop the handle is actually more pronounced than the difference in start up inertia.
Thanks for another awesome review. I always look forward to your videos and especially when you discuss reels, rods, and tackle. I make purchases based off your reviews and always recommend your channel to everyone I talk fishing with.
I like these alot I have both the 2500 and 4000 for bass fishing. My favorite reel for bass use sure even after trying all Stella's exists etc. I found it feels very refined. But also how the shapes is designed. It balances with many rods comfortably. Where as I found sometimes the shimano excense and vanford the balance felt different and a bit off. The prices vs almost perfect performance is a good buy imo Nice review. I agree with you points.
Great looking reel and features! Thanks for a look at another reel and explaining little things. Find myself finding a quality reel to balance on certain rods. Some are hard to match up appearances or paint jobs. Have a Daiwa ballistic fw on Daiwa presso. Smooth and great drag but definitely need to find some knob shims and a bearing for handle. Wish Daiwa schematics showed individual handle components. Thanks for your effort and for subscriber support!
Victor, clearly you have put a lot of thought into this review and I find that your take on the naming of the reel is pretty persuasive and plausible. Also, your comparison with Vanquish was helpful too (Vanquish is better for trout magnet; Airity functions well for spoons and crankbaits). My area trout fishing friends in Japan really hate the Magseal on the Daiwa reels and, those who can afford it, send them off to specialists to "tune" the reels, which includes replacing the grease with oil and removing the Magseal.
I enjoy servicing my shimano reels but i hate opening daiwa magseal reels. Always issues on the close, even though if u forget about the magseal and the funny sideplate the daiwa reels are mechanically simpler.
I really enjoyed this review Victor, you’re replacing Tackle Advisors as my go to RUclipsr for reel reviews. A little while ago I commented on a video of yours saying that to me the 19 Certate feels more premium than the 20 Luvias and you couldn’t understand why that would be as they basically share the same internals. I think now you’ve reviewed the Airity you understand the difference I was referring to in the feel between the composite body and the metal body. Metal body reels just feel nicer and in my opinion and the Certate LT feels as nice Airity/Exist LT, just a little more weight which isn’t always a bad thing for certain applications.
Did i ever say i think luvias and certate feel the same? I dont remember holding that opinion. I dont know better or worse, but i know aluminum reel will feel different.
I had a fishing incident where my Daiwa Certate LT reel got dragged in the ocean by a big fish, but luckily I was able to fish it out. So when I got home I had to do a complete strip down removing everything, then applied a different brand of grease. And when I gave the reel a spin, I noticed it got noisy and its no longer as smooth as how it used to be. So I tried different grease to no avail and only the SLP grease from Japan was the one that was able to bring back the buttery smoothness. So from my experience, if you want to have lower inertia. You have to give up the resistance from the factory grease or leave it there so its smooth as silk
Nice vid. I have three FC Airity’s and a 2500 Exist to compare. I feel like the Airity is what the Exist should had been - I agree they are like jewels. FC Airity models have their magseal gear drive and line roller removed just like FC Exists. While the non-FC models keep magseals in those areas. I agree that clutch will be removed in the redesigned Exist. The Airity not having one is so refreshing. No nonsense. We may be due for a model change in Exist in the next year or two so it does make sense Daiwa using the Exist frame in the Airity. Although Daiwa has been notoriously using reel parts throughout their line up and differentiating with an extra bearing or so. The 20 Luvias frame is on like 6 other Daiwa reels now.
Maybe u mean mq design, not frame. Only exist and airity have same frame. The other frames are some kind of plastic, or aliminum, but never same material as exist. Frame is not exactly same either.
@@ifishcatfish yes the 18 Exist and 21 Airity use the same MQ frame and use the same magnesium material - total of two for this chassis family. Just different paint scheme of course. Meanwhile the 20 Luvias was set to be another legacy frame - base Zaion chassis that is now being shared on the EU Airity, New Presso, Emeraldas Air, and AU Revelry. all essentially the same reel with difference in bearing count, Magsealing, rotor material, etc.
I just got the Airity in the 4000 Size and it's awesome. Can understand that ever slight resistance feel of the grease or whatever they used for lubrication, they should definitely have used something with less viscosity. Haven't ever felt the Vanquish so I'm wondering if I should get that one too or just wait until next year if they release a new Exist or Stella FJ.
If you have the Airity already I wouldn't waste money on a vanquish, exist or stella. Instead I would look at some quality import rods from Japan/asia, if you haven't got one already. I owned all the of the reels you mentioned and I stuck with the certate and airity, but Vanquish also really nice. Among those 3 I think you are fine. ;)
@@ferst5937 I also owned all 3. I would say I use the vanquish 0 resistance for super light weight lures. Which is probably what it was designed to do. For normal bass fishing I've been grabbing the arity the most recently. Love the 4000 size as well.
I think it’s a trickle down technology. They are redesigning the exist as their flagship and using the old exist as the airity. Win win for everyone. IMO.
Yeah I’d expect a new exist next year. However I doubt it will be a full new design, probably using the same frame with some improvements here and there. If you look back at the 2012 & 2015 Exist they shared the same frame design, I’d predict that Daiwa will stretch out the R&D on this current frame design for the next one.
Hey, great vid as always, but a quick question. Would you mind explaining what Daiwa's quick drag system is? I cannot find a good explanation online and the only luvias airity 2500 models I can find in stock are the "quick-drag" models. Does it just mean that the drag tightens in fewer clicks? Or does it mean the reel will always be in free spool when I cast and then the drag engages after a bite?
the drag tightens with very few clicks. People use it for free lining. It creates a similar effect to a baitrunner reel, but without the complexity of baitrunning mechanism
Does this have the same drag system as the certate? Certate drag system broke on me reeling in a 2 pounder. Next cast it felt like a cement mixer reeling in a half pounder, now I have a $350 paperweight
Hi, would like to ask as I just got a brand new luvias airity. Does the felt washer need to be oil/lubed fresh out of the box? if yes what oil/lube works best?
no, it does not. Daiwa sells so many drag greases, and so does shimano. I would not use anything in the first 2 years though. Then u can buy something. I have used very cheap grease there and can hardly tell the difference. But if u have several nice reels, just go and buy some drag grease and service all ur reels. It has to be felt grease though, not carbon grease
Great, to the point video as always I' ve got a big dillema. I am using a 2500 size Vanford for trout, using mostly spinners in small creeks and streams. I can't decide between the Vanquish or Luvias Airity, both 2000s sizes. Would the Airity be a stronger, more rigid reel compared to Vanquish? Inertia and cranking power also important for spinners. I can't get my hands on any of them to decide.
not stronger. They both have magnesium frame. I compared it to vanquish in the video, i don't want to repeat everything by typing.. They have pros and cons and it depends what you enjoy more.
@@ifishcatfish I understand. Why I'm asking is because you have compared it to the 2500 size Vanquish, and I'm thinking about the 2000 size version, which is considerably cheaper in my area than the Luvias Airity.
thank you for the great video i can get a daiwa exist lt 3000 for 555€ or a Luvias airity lt 3000 for 565 which one is better? for me the luvias feels smoother and more quiet but maybe because the exist lt has more magsealed bearings idk what would you say?
I would get Exist if they cost the same, just because it is exist and easier to resell. But it should be just as smooth as Luvias. If it is not, just ask for another reel. But your prices are strange. Usually we get LA for under 500$
@@ifishcatfish thank you bro i will send my reel back i have the exist lt at the moment here it cames in the morning but the gear is doing gearing there is a little space i think so i will get a new in 5 day thank you for the support 🙏🙏🙏
I wish I could get the old presso it looks so beautiful compared to the new one. Just ordered the airity in a 1000 size for a area trout pond, next will be the vanquish can't wait to try the 2000 high speed model!
@@highdefinition3529 i wasn't going swimming THERE. Anywhere else - yes, but not THERE. This is below a dam, and when they open the gates to descend the barges, it gets crazy there. But if it was a normal lake - FOR SURE.
@@ifishcatfish well glad you didn't have to watch it sink been watching all your reviews for anything I question on buying. I appreciate the comments back!
@@ifishcatfish It looks beautiful( better looking than the 23 Vanquish in my opinion). Comes in 2000 size (one in a 4.9 gear ratio!) I have a feeling these reels are going to by flying off the shelf pretty fast!
Hi Victor great video. What else could a guy buy that's the best of for under a $1000. A road racing bicycle in 1975 maybe. Actually the engineer's at Daiwa are doing a pretty good job. I wonder what happened to old man Daiwa he named his top reels in the early 70's SS gold silver and bronze now I need a Daiwa speak dictionary. Now it looks like if I want the best French spinning reel you have to get a Daiwa. I like the fact that they're paying homage to many of the old greats Luxor Crack styling cues with a bit of Swedish ABU smoothness throwin in with a bit of Samurai sword to make it there own. A far cry from the days when they cloned the Mitchell 300 in the late 60's. Even Hardy styling cues from the 30's is seen in the new models. But the level of refinement has reached a level not dreamed of back then. Still a world beater Daiwa's continue to strive to the founders Mark of Excellence doctorine.
i discuss this in detail in the video. I know u lazy and don't want to watch the whole thing and i don't blame you, im the same way : ). But i am not gona type the whole thing when i already have it in the video..
u can google for more accuracy. It is the tendency of bodies to keep their current state and resist change. So if the rotor is not moving and you try to move it, it will resist and u have to put some force to get it to move. Then when u start moving it and want to stop it, intertia will keep it moving, so if u want to stop it again you need to put force to stop it. But expensive reels have little inertia and start and stop very easy
Man love the sound of the drag. Sadly, the spool is kind of shallow. and damn this thing is worth $500?? Two week ago, I just bought the certe for $500+. Didn't even know anything about 2021 Luvias airity. But I will use certe for saltwater application. Is Luvias airity mainly for fresh water?
No, Airity is actually the best ultralight Saltwater reel on the market in my opinion. As for spool being shallow - they have models with very big spools. Look at size 2500 FC, which is 1000 size body with 2500 size spool. Or just a regular 2000, not SS.
I bought the Luvias Airity 2500 LT model (not the FC type). For my suprise I noticed that the size and the spool diameter is smaller compared to the regular 2500 Shimano models like Vanford and latest Stradic, what made me very happy because it's a very versatile size. Perfect for trout, perch and chub fishing. The reel is very sturdy, very fancy looking, and weights only 170 grams. It's also smooth as butter, can't feel the gears working inside, when handle is turned at regular speed. On the other hand, because of the rigidity of the frame or the hard metal parts used inside, when the handle is turned only a bit faster, it feels as metal rubbing to metal and it's a bit noisy. Maybe they applied less grease to this particular unit? I don't know if that's normal as I've never tried another Luvias Airity before. I was wondering if you or others have experienced this.
i dont test my reels at very high speed, and i already returned that reel. That said, if the reel feels good at normal operating speed, you should be happy and enjoy life
No unfortunately you can’t, the 21 Airity spool can go on the 20 Luvias and all LT reels below it but not the other way around. Daiwa intentionally designed their flagship reels not to be interchangeable with the mid and lower end models. Exist and Certate are the only models interchangeable with the Airity.
@@philhicks2167 Yes you can, but trying to put a 20 luvias spool on the 21 Airity won’t fit properly. You also can’t interchange the spool knobs! Bloody Daiwa!!
I swapped luvias 2020 and exist spools and they fit, but looked bad and i couldnt take it. I think all MQ body spools will swap fine but not sure of certate. I never had a certate but i thought it came with a wider spool than the carbon reels.
Hey victor can I get you to comment on the Diawa Sol III, Daiwa BG, shimano Sustain and Penn Battle. Your thought and review on each reel would be much appreciated?
Dont know the first reel. Bg is great for bittom fishing; too heavy for ultralight or even bass fishing Sustain is too old today and too heavy Penn Battle does not compare to daiwa or shimano reels. Inferior gears and too heavy, clunky feel
Hello friend, which one would you suggest more? Daiwa Luvias Airity 2500 or Shimano Vanquish 2500? There is no 2000 Luv. airity or Vanquish at the shop. They have a Exist 2000 for 610 euros. for Zander & Perch fishing, thank you in advance bro :) Marek from Slovakia
they have advantages and disadvantages. Watch my Exist vs Stella video, there i discuss in detail. Most people prefer the daiwa, but i prefer the vanquish, but it is very very subjective
@@ifishcatfish Victor, i ordered a 2000 Vanquish it was the last piece for 400 euros, do you with it will go well with a 226cm Majorcraft rod ? weight of the rod is 89 gr
@@ifishcatfish Dang i wanted the 2500 in the first to be honest, i still can cancel the order of the 2000, i was not sure since you are right the rod is longer
There’s two other kinds of reels reg luvias airity and there’s another one finesse custom that’s the ones I have are daiwa luvias airity FC LT 2500sxg and the 2000sh now in the 3000 model they don’t make it in the FC or the 4000 either
I have the FC luvias airity and love it. I do plan on replacing the spool support bushing with a bearing eventually but can’t figure out what size it needs. It’s worth noting I got it for $400 from Japan. I believe it is the best reel at that price point.
Where do you fish in Chicago? I live in DuPage county - interested in your fishing preferences, style , experience, etc. You are fantastic - thanks so much!!
Hello mr Victor, i am from Indonesia I want to ask you is the oscillating gear on 2021 luvias airity still plastic?? and is that strong enough to caught 7kg fish?? I go fishing 2 times a week, I fish in the fishing pond with fish weighing over 5kg Please answer my question Thank you before
the plastic gear doesn't rotate the rotor. It only moves the spool up and down. The pressure on the plastic gear is roughly the same whether u fight a fish or not. It is the pinion gear that rotates the rotor and takes all the force, thats why the pinion gear is the strongest gear in the reel, stronger than the main gear.
Has anybody noticed that rash guard of the gearbox is actually a part of the gearbox body n the two side plates not covering the whole body, a little/mid hard bang n c goodbey to the magseal thing . Damn that’s really bad n yes i have certate lt the only daiwa among tens of shimano reels , baught it mainly for mq body designe only.
thats not where the mag seal is. Also the reel is metal so you would have to bang it hard to break it. This design looks much better, and people who pay this much money for a reel usually don't bang them against rocks..
Thanks for the video. I needed a finesse reel and the choice really isn't all that wide, when it comes to premium segment. Vanquish - my first choice. But there should be a new generation in a few month, so... What else is there? Just Luvias Airity and Exist. Fro those who fish mostly in freshwater having all the possible sealing isn't necessary. So why pay for Exist extra? Besides, I agree, Luvias Airity looks nicer to me. Ordered Luvias Airity, will see how it goes.
@@ifishcatfish I used to do something like this, but... fishing gear would collect more dust than fish)))) I won't be fishing with that size reel that much to justify having two very similar reels.
@@ifishcatfish will see))) A good reel for me should put not only some fish to my feet but a smite on my face when I handle it too. Current Vanquish is exceptional tool but feels rather cheap and unsophisticated in the hand. 12 Vanquish had it all: amazing design, sophistication, amazing colourway and even handmade like handle. And let's not forget the weight of 160 grams for smallest model 10 years ago! I really hope they will come up with something like this next year. But, honestly, I have some doubts about that. They will probably go the same way of cutting weight and sacrificing everything for it. I do really like lightness and sensitivity but there should be some balance of things.
@@ifishcatfish you didn't. It's a question for you. I've heard they don't like the salt much. If your going to fish them in salt water you have to really clean them well after. Have you heard the same?
Hi. First of all I would like to say that you are doing a great job! I am a Shimano lover and I own reels only from this company. Recently I am into using the lightest possible tackle. I am impressed by Vanquish 2019 4000 MHG which I use for asp fishing (I am from Poland), however I am looking for lightweight 4000 size reel with normal gear ratio (the problem is that Vanquish 4000 has only HG or XG). In the portfolio of Shimano I found only Vanford which has normal gear ratio and light weigh, nevertheless I think it not as smooth as Vanquish. With a heavy heart I checked the portfolio of Daiwa and found this Luvias Airity 4000 which weight is only 200g and gear ratio 5.3. Getting to the point: how to compare the real size of these two reel? I've heard that Daiwa 4000 is visually bigger than Shimano 4000. So maybe I should take Luvias 3000 to have a reel the same as Vanquish 4000? The thing is that I don't have any shop in the neighbourhood to compare it, I am forced to order it online. I hope that you can asnwer/help me. Thank you in advance. Take care
Daiwa and Shimano will be almost the same size. Daiwa used to be bigger 10 years ago. This is very old rumor that found you. Daiwa abandoned those ABS spools that I actually liked. I still have many of them. Anyway, don't worry, they will be same size and Airity is super smooth reel. Better gears even than Vanquish. By the way the gears in the Vanquish and Vanford are identical. It is the frame and some bearings that are different and make the two reels feel different
brooo we are fucked man the new exist 22 is there omg looook at this beautiful i think i will send my Exist 18 back and buy an 22 model omg loook at thiisss man
@@loibigf1053 is that because of the larger gear Daiwa uses you think compared to Shimano? I'm just trying to think and figure out if the way Shimano gears their reels is better than Daiwa
@@bestthingsinceslicedrice That is the ultimate salt water fishing question..... To use magnesium or not to use Magnesium. I always have problems with monocoque design and and sealed drag and difficulty opening. The Shimano, even the Exsence/Stella with or without magnesium, can easily be opened cleaned and re-greased. I would be more comfortable with a Shimano, a reel that I can open, than Daiwa, a reel I can't. I have no intention of dropping a $100 to send the Daiwa to be cleaned. Ask Victor how many good experiences he had with the tool he bought to open the reels and how they change the shape of the tool. If you buy Shimano, you don't have to worry about the Magnesium if you rinse and clean often enough. How much is enough? Now that is the real question.
You are comparing a luvias airity with a high gear ratio with a 2500s vanquish Low gear ratio of course the vanquish feels better. It’s a fact high gear ratio reel doesnt feel as smooth as low gear ratio . Try a Luvias airity lt3000 low gear ratio it will blow any vanquish ( i have vanquish c3000 and Even exsence 21 c3000m ) and the Luvias airity is much smoother in low gear ratio . I have a 2500xh Quick drag so much resistance on the high gear ratio . Thanks mate .
I have had 3 airities, you can watch those videos too. All airity reels up to 2023 have too much resistance due to magseal and sealed bearings. This is a Fact confirmed by Daiwa, which they addressed in the release of the new 2024 Airity. They said the new Airity will not have a lot of resistance like the old. Thanks for watching
Exist def looks more expensive. Plus think the exist gets Daiwa's premium coverage; not sure that's worth the price difference but if they both cost the same, think I'd go with the exist. 😁
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Thank you so much for all of your insight - you have been so helpful to me - I can’t thank you enough!!
Great video again! I really appreciate you using the Vanquish as a standard comparison versus other high end reels (especially because I have two Vanquishes). Really glad you made this video as I was contemplating getting the next Exist. However, I've come to realize that I really value low inertia over most other attributes for my stop and go style of fishing. Comparing the inertia on my Cardiff Ci4+ to my Vanquish is night and day. The difference in effort it takes the stop the handle is actually more pronounced than the difference in start up inertia.
You and me both. For twitching trout magnets there is only Shimano.
I like they way you get into the brain of Daiwa marketing. Honestly I like the look of Arity over the Exist. Great video!
Thanks TT
Thanks for another awesome review. I always look forward to your videos and especially when you discuss reels, rods, and tackle. I make purchases based off your reviews and always recommend your channel to everyone I talk fishing with.
I like these alot I have both the 2500 and 4000 for bass fishing. My favorite reel for bass use sure even after trying all Stella's exists etc. I found it feels very refined. But also how the shapes is designed. It balances with many rods comfortably. Where as I found sometimes the shimano excense and vanford the balance felt different and a bit off.
The prices vs almost perfect performance is a good buy imo
Nice review. I agree with you points.
I completely agree. I also have the 2500 and the 4000.
Great looking reel and features! Thanks for a look at another reel and explaining little things. Find myself finding a quality reel to balance on certain rods. Some are hard to match up appearances or paint jobs. Have a Daiwa ballistic fw on Daiwa presso. Smooth and great drag but definitely need to find some knob shims and a bearing for handle. Wish Daiwa schematics showed individual handle components.
Thanks for your effort and for subscriber support!
Thanks DR
Victor, clearly you have put a lot of thought into this review and I find that your take on the naming of the reel is pretty persuasive and plausible. Also, your comparison with Vanquish was helpful too (Vanquish is better for trout magnet; Airity functions well for spoons and crankbaits). My area trout fishing friends in Japan really hate the Magseal on the Daiwa reels and, those who can afford it, send them off to specialists to "tune" the reels, which includes replacing the grease with oil and removing the Magseal.
I enjoy servicing my shimano reels but i hate opening daiwa magseal reels. Always issues on the close, even though if u forget about the magseal and the funny sideplate the daiwa reels are mechanically simpler.
Very good point at the end
I really enjoyed this review Victor, you’re replacing Tackle Advisors as my go to RUclipsr for reel reviews.
A little while ago I commented on a video of yours saying that to me the 19 Certate feels more premium than the 20 Luvias and you couldn’t understand why that would be as they basically share the same internals.
I think now you’ve reviewed the Airity you understand the difference I was referring to in the feel between the composite body and the metal body. Metal body reels just feel nicer and in my opinion and the Certate LT feels as nice Airity/Exist LT, just a little more weight which isn’t always a bad thing for certain applications.
Did i ever say i think luvias and certate feel the same? I dont remember holding that opinion. I dont know better or worse, but i know aluminum reel will feel different.
I had a fishing incident where my Daiwa Certate LT reel got dragged in the ocean by a big fish, but luckily I was able to fish it out.
So when I got home I had to do a complete strip down removing everything, then applied a different brand of grease.
And when I gave the reel a spin, I noticed it got noisy and its no longer as smooth as how it used to be.
So I tried different grease to no avail and only the SLP grease from Japan was the one that was able to bring back the buttery smoothness.
So from my experience, if you want to have lower inertia. You have to give up the resistance from the factory grease or leave it there so its smooth as silk
Nice vid. I have three FC Airity’s and a 2500 Exist to compare. I feel like the Airity is what the Exist should had been - I agree they are like jewels. FC Airity models have their magseal gear drive and line roller removed just like FC Exists. While the non-FC models keep magseals in those areas. I agree that clutch will be removed in the redesigned Exist. The Airity not having one is so refreshing. No nonsense. We may be due for a model change in Exist in the next year or two so it does make sense Daiwa using the Exist frame in the Airity. Although Daiwa has been notoriously using reel parts throughout their line up and differentiating with an extra bearing or so. The 20 Luvias frame is on like 6 other Daiwa reels now.
Maybe u mean mq design, not frame. Only exist and airity have same frame. The other frames are some kind of plastic, or aliminum, but never same material as exist. Frame is not exactly same either.
@@ifishcatfish yes the 18 Exist and 21 Airity use the same MQ frame and use the same magnesium material - total of two for this chassis family. Just different paint scheme of course.
Meanwhile the 20 Luvias was set to be another legacy frame - base Zaion chassis that is now being shared on the EU Airity, New Presso, Emeraldas Air, and AU Revelry. all essentially the same reel with difference in bearing count, Magsealing, rotor material, etc.
Just FYI i will be drivin south when this premiers and wont be able to reply. But will reply tonight.
I just got the Airity in the 4000 Size and it's awesome. Can understand that ever slight resistance feel of the grease or whatever they used for lubrication, they should definitely have used something with less viscosity. Haven't ever felt the Vanquish so I'm wondering if I should get that one too or just wait until next year if they release a new Exist or Stella FJ.
Thats always the questuon, isnt it? :)
If you have the Airity already I wouldn't waste money on a vanquish, exist or stella. Instead I would look at some quality import rods from Japan/asia, if you haven't got one already.
I owned all the of the reels you mentioned and I stuck with the certate and airity, but Vanquish also really nice. Among those 3 I think you are fine. ;)
@@ferst5937 I also owned all 3. I would say I use the vanquish 0 resistance for super light weight lures. Which is probably what it was designed to do. For normal bass fishing I've been grabbing the arity the most recently. Love the 4000 size as well.
@@spinningrodfisherman same here, airity the perfect one for me too. Might exchange the certate for another one. 😁
Thank you for your A++ Video!
Victor, well said.
I think it’s a trickle down technology. They are redesigning the exist as their flagship and using the old exist as the airity. Win win for everyone. IMO.
New "exist" coming early-mid 2022 and Shimano will release a response on it too (or the other way around).
Yeah I’d expect a new exist next year. However I doubt it will be a full new design, probably using the same frame with some improvements here and there.
If you look back at the 2012 & 2015 Exist they shared the same frame design, I’d predict that Daiwa will stretch out the R&D on this current frame design for the next one.
Hey, great vid as always, but a quick question. Would you mind explaining what Daiwa's quick drag system is? I cannot find a good explanation online and the only luvias airity 2500 models I can find in stock are the "quick-drag" models. Does it just mean that the drag tightens in fewer clicks? Or does it mean the reel will always be in free spool when I cast and then the drag engages after a bite?
the drag tightens with very few clicks. People use it for free lining. It creates a similar effect to a baitrunner reel, but without the complexity of baitrunning mechanism
@@ifishcatfish Thank you!
What do you think about the new Shimano Nasci Fc? Will you review and compare it to similar reels?
I will try to get it. I think its a great value for bass fishing and up. But too heavy for ultralight fishing
i would almost agree with everything you said. actually i agree all you said for this review.
Does this have the same drag system as the certate? Certate drag system broke on me reeling in a 2 pounder. Next cast it felt like a cement mixer reeling in a half pounder, now I have a $350 paperweight
Yes, its the same, but this drag clicker is super durable. Must have had some super weird accident.
Ordered the jdm fc version luvias 2500 by accident not sure ill be able to run 10lb fluoro on it. Whats your thoughts on the 5.5oz fc version?
2500 seems perfect for 10 lb fluoro...
FC stands for 1000 size body with a 2500 size spool.
Hi, would like to ask as I just got a brand new luvias airity. Does the felt washer need to be oil/lubed fresh out of the box? if yes what oil/lube works best?
no, it does not. Daiwa sells so many drag greases, and so does shimano. I would not use anything in the first 2 years though. Then u can buy something. I have used very cheap grease there and can hardly tell the difference. But if u have several nice reels, just go and buy some drag grease and service all ur reels. It has to be felt grease though, not carbon grease
Great, to the point video as always
I' ve got a big dillema.
I am using a 2500 size Vanford for trout, using mostly spinners in small creeks and streams. I can't decide between the Vanquish or Luvias Airity, both 2000s sizes. Would the Airity be a stronger, more rigid reel compared to Vanquish? Inertia and cranking power also important for spinners. I can't get my hands on any of them to decide.
not stronger. They both have magnesium frame. I compared it to vanquish in the video, i don't want to repeat everything by typing.. They have pros and cons and it depends what you enjoy more.
@@ifishcatfish I understand. Why I'm asking is because you have compared it to the 2500 size Vanquish, and I'm thinking about the 2000 size version, which is considerably cheaper in my area than the Luvias Airity.
thank you for the great video i can get a daiwa exist lt 3000 for 555€ or a Luvias airity lt 3000 for 565 which one is better? for me the luvias feels smoother and more quiet but maybe because the exist lt has more magsealed bearings idk what would you say?
I would get Exist if they cost the same, just because it is exist and easier to resell. But it should be just as smooth as Luvias. If it is not, just ask for another reel. But your prices are strange. Usually we get LA for under 500$
@@ifishcatfish thank you bro i will send my reel back i have the exist lt at the moment here it cames in the morning but the gear is doing gearing there is a little space i think so i will get a new in 5 day thank you for the support 🙏🙏🙏
I wish I could get the old presso it looks so beautiful compared to the new one. Just ordered the airity in a 1000 size for a area trout pond, next will be the vanquish can't wait to try the 2000 high speed model!
i know. And i dropped mine in the water last week. Thank goodness i saved it because it would cost me like $800 to replace it
@@ifishcatfish I saw that video I was so happy you got to save it. Tears would be shed if I had lost my 1k setup I'd prolly go swimming lol.
@@highdefinition3529 i wasn't going swimming THERE. Anywhere else - yes, but not THERE. This is below a dam, and when they open the gates to descend the barges, it gets crazy there. But if it was a normal lake - FOR SURE.
@@ifishcatfish well glad you didn't have to watch it sink been watching all your reviews for anything I question on buying. I appreciate the comments back!
I'll be waiting for your 23 Airity review 😉
does it come in small sizes? I saw it is in Presso colors...
And thank you again for your generous Paypal! Much appreciated!
@@ifishcatfish It looks beautiful( better looking than the 23 Vanquish in my opinion). Comes in 2000 size (one in a 4.9 gear ratio!) I have a feeling these reels are going to by flying off the shelf pretty fast!
@@fawaz78 it does look beautiful! if it comes in 2000 x 4.9 ima order one asap!
Hi Victor great video. What else could a guy buy that's the best of for under a $1000. A road racing bicycle in 1975 maybe. Actually the engineer's at Daiwa are doing a pretty good job. I wonder what happened to old man Daiwa he named his top reels in the early 70's SS gold silver and bronze now I need a Daiwa speak dictionary. Now it looks like if I want the best French spinning reel you have to get a Daiwa. I like the fact that they're paying homage to many of the old greats Luxor Crack styling cues with a bit of Swedish ABU smoothness throwin in with a bit of Samurai sword to make it there own. A far cry from the days when they cloned the Mitchell 300 in the late 60's. Even Hardy styling cues from the 30's is seen in the new models. But the level of refinement has reached a level not dreamed of back then. Still a world beater Daiwa's continue to strive to the founders Mark of Excellence doctorine.
Everything after Legalis LT is bells and whistles, Bob.
Where does the 2020 airity Lt fit in the lineup?I think it is a gorgeous and unique looking reel!!
i discuss this in detail in the video. I know u lazy and don't want to watch the whole thing and i don't blame you, im the same way : ). But i am not gona type the whole thing when i already have it in the video..
I'm not talking about the Luvius Airity I'm talking about the Airity, It in in the Scandinavian market and Diawa cormorant!!
I for to ask you what does inertia mean for a reel it’s the first time I ever heard of it I know about the drag and stuff like that but not inertia
u can google for more accuracy. It is the tendency of bodies to keep their current state and resist change. So if the rotor is not moving and you try to move it, it will resist and u have to put some force to get it to move. Then when u start moving it and want to stop it, intertia will keep it moving, so if u want to stop it again you need to put force to stop it. But expensive reels have little inertia and start and stop very easy
Luvias 21 is the best of the best!!!😁
How would actually luvias airity do in occasional saltwater fishing, what do you think?
it will do just fine
Man love the sound of the drag. Sadly, the spool is kind of shallow. and damn this thing is worth $500?? Two week ago, I just bought the certe for $500+. Didn't even know anything about 2021 Luvias airity. But I will use certe for saltwater application. Is Luvias airity mainly for fresh water?
No, Airity is actually the best ultralight Saltwater reel on the market in my opinion. As for spool being shallow - they have models with very big spools. Look at size 2500 FC, which is 1000 size body with 2500 size spool. Or just a regular 2000, not SS.
@@ifishcatfish what happens? You said Luvi airily is another version of new exist. How come Daiwa just release the actual version of exist 2022?
I bought the Luvias Airity 2500 LT model (not the FC type). For my suprise I noticed that the size and the spool diameter is smaller compared to the regular 2500 Shimano models like Vanford and latest Stradic, what made me very happy because it's a very versatile size. Perfect for trout, perch and chub fishing. The reel is very sturdy, very fancy looking, and weights only 170 grams. It's also smooth as butter, can't feel the gears working inside, when handle is turned at regular speed. On the other hand, because of the rigidity of the frame or the hard metal parts used inside, when the handle is turned only a bit faster, it feels as metal rubbing to metal and it's a bit noisy. Maybe they applied less grease to this particular unit? I don't know if that's normal as I've never tried another Luvias Airity before. I was wondering if you or others have experienced this.
i dont test my reels at very high speed, and i already returned that reel. That said, if the reel feels good at normal operating speed, you should be happy and enjoy life
@@ifishcatfish You know how it is. The more you pay, the higher the expectations are. I will definitely enjoy it. Thank you for the quick feedback.
Do you think Luvias Airity LT 2500 will be enough strong to manage with 20-30 grams lures?
absolutely. I cast 1 oz spoons with shimano exsence, and this is stronger
@@ifishcatfish thank you!
Even for jiggin it shoudl be okey?
Hi Victor. Have you had your hands on the new Stella yet
no. Hping someone can send me one so i don't have to buy it
If you had to choose between Luvias airity or vanquish for saltwater, which would it be?
for ultralight - Vanquist. For size 3000 and over - Airity
@@ifishcatfish vanquish able to handle random 5-10lb fish?
Victor I asked before I know but can you swap the spools on the two luvias reels. Thanks for a reply.
No unfortunately you can’t, the 21 Airity spool can go on the 20 Luvias and all LT reels below it but not the other way around.
Daiwa intentionally designed their flagship reels not to be interchangeable with the mid and lower end models.
Exist and Certate are the only models interchangeable with the Airity.
@@AMLuc1320 so your saying I can put the 21 airity spool on my 20 luvias both being a 2000 size? Thank You for the reply.
@@philhicks2167 Yes you can, but trying to put a 20 luvias spool on the 21 Airity won’t fit properly.
You also can’t interchange the spool knobs! Bloody Daiwa!!
I swapped luvias 2020 and exist spools and they fit, but looked bad and i couldnt take it. I think all MQ body spools will swap fine but not sure of certate. I never had a certate but i thought it came with a wider spool than the carbon reels.
Hey victor can I get you to comment on the Diawa Sol III, Daiwa BG, shimano Sustain and Penn Battle. Your thought and review on each reel would be much appreciated?
Dont know the first reel.
Bg is great for bittom fishing; too heavy for ultralight or even bass fishing
Sustain is too old today and too heavy
Penn Battle does not compare to daiwa or shimano reels. Inferior gears and too heavy, clunky feel
Hello friend, which one would you suggest more? Daiwa Luvias Airity 2500 or Shimano Vanquish 2500? There is no 2000 Luv. airity or Vanquish at the shop. They have a Exist 2000 for 610 euros. for Zander & Perch fishing, thank you in advance bro :) Marek from Slovakia
they have advantages and disadvantages. Watch my Exist vs Stella video, there i discuss in detail. Most people prefer the daiwa, but i prefer the vanquish, but it is very very subjective
@@ifishcatfish Victor, i ordered a 2000 Vanquish it was the last piece for 400 euros, do you with it will go well with a 226cm Majorcraft rod ? weight of the rod is 89 gr
majorcraft is always perfectly balanced. U can put any reel on it. Although for such big rod you could have gone with a 2500
@@ifishcatfish Dang i wanted the 2500 in the first to be honest, i still can cancel the order of the 2000, i was not sure since you are right the rod is longer
There’s two other kinds of reels reg luvias airity and there’s another one finesse custom that’s the ones I have are daiwa luvias airity FC LT 2500sxg and the 2000sh now in the 3000 model they don’t make it in the FC or the 4000 either
FC is just a model. The same reel sometimes with different knob or spool
I have the FC luvias airity and love it. I do plan on replacing the spool support bushing with a bearing eventually but can’t figure out what size it needs. It’s worth noting I got it for $400 from Japan. I believe it is the best reel at that price point.
im thinking of getting one..
Where do you fish in Chicago? I live in DuPage county - interested in your fishing preferences, style , experience, etc. You are fantastic - thanks so much!!
well i live in TN now. Moved 1 year ago
Hello mr Victor, i am from Indonesia
I want to ask you
is the oscillating gear on 2021 luvias airity still plastic??
and is that strong enough to caught 7kg fish??
I go fishing 2 times a week, I fish in the fishing pond with fish weighing over 5kg
Please answer my question
Thank you before
the plastic gear doesn't rotate the rotor. It only moves the spool up and down. The pressure on the plastic gear is roughly the same whether u fight a fish or not. It is the pinion gear that rotates the rotor and takes all the force, thats why the pinion gear is the strongest gear in the reel, stronger than the main gear.
@@ifishcatfish thank you very much mr Victor
@@haryirvantarigan6500 It is a more refined design compared to Stella
The luvias Airity comes with a mag sealed line roller bearing assembly.
Not the fc tune “finesse custom”
Yes, the fc models dont
Fair enough didnt know there were different models of Luvias Airity
@@Justin-wf7op Asia have many different models of the airity, Europe just a few. Not sure about America
In Australia we have 1
Has anybody noticed that rash guard of the gearbox is actually a part of the gearbox body n the two side plates not covering the whole body, a little/mid hard bang n c goodbey to the magseal thing . Damn that’s really bad n yes i have certate lt the only daiwa among tens of shimano reels , baught it mainly for mq body designe only.
thats not where the mag seal is. Also the reel is metal so you would have to bang it hard to break it. This design looks much better, and people who pay this much money for a reel usually don't bang them against rocks..
for some reason, i dont like the finishing of luvias airity. Under the sunlight, the metallic finish of the frame makes the reel seems dusty or dirty.
I have actually seen that. Thats the the look of unpainted carbon fibers.
Anytime any day Exist, just hate reel come with gold colour 😁😁✌️
its really subtle. It looks expensive in my opinion. I like it better than chrome
I know you guys dont care about this tangets.
Hmmm in my end I actually enjoy you go in depth with your reviews and give perspective on the difference
Thanks bud
@@ifishcatfish always a pleasure watching your videos Victor.
You are my go to for reel reviews because you say it how it is!
Thanks for the video. I needed a finesse reel and the choice really isn't all that wide, when it comes to premium segment. Vanquish - my first choice. But there should be a new generation in a few month, so... What else is there? Just Luvias Airity and Exist. Fro those who fish mostly in freshwater having all the possible sealing isn't necessary. So why pay for Exist extra? Besides, I agree, Luvias Airity looks nicer to me.
Ordered Luvias Airity, will see how it goes.
when in doubt, buy them both
@@ifishcatfish I used to do something like this, but... fishing gear would collect more dust than fish)))) I won't be fishing with that size reel that much to justify having two very similar reels.
i meant the airity and then still buy the new vanquish when it comes
@@ifishcatfish will see))) A good reel for me should put not only some fish to my feet but a smite on my face when I handle it too. Current Vanquish is exceptional tool but feels rather cheap and unsophisticated in the hand. 12 Vanquish had it all: amazing design, sophistication, amazing colourway and even handmade like handle. And let's not forget the weight of 160 grams for smallest model 10 years ago! I really hope they will come up with something like this next year. But, honestly, I have some doubts about that. They will probably go the same way of cutting weight and sacrificing everything for it. I do really like lightness and sensitivity but there should be some balance of things.
i don't know where u got that. If u say the old vanquish was perfect and the new feels cheap... u have some different perceptions than normal humans
How would you compare the airity lt with luvias?
better
@@ifishcatfish Just to make sure I'm talking about airity not luvias airity thanks again
Oh… i remember now… they released that one only in europe.. I dont know anything about thats reel
Do you think i should sell my vanquish (i have 4) and get this one?? Honest opinion and great reviews by the way!
no
@@ifishcatfish i thought you might say that and i will listen to you 😀
i have a stella 1000 and a vanquish 1000 ssspg i still prefer my vanquish
I fished with a stella all week and i can say the same
I'm not talking about the Luvius Airity ,I'm talking about the Airity from Daiwa Cormorant and Daiwa Scandinavia!!
Oh. Well im talking about luvias airity. We dont have scandinavian reels.
So no good for the salt? Great vid
where did i say not good for salt?? Its great in salt
@@ifishcatfish you didn't. It's a question for you.
I've heard they don't like the salt much. If your going to fish them in salt water you have to really clean them well after. Have you heard the same?
@@allinski no, i havent heard that
Hi, I would like to send you a reel to review!
what reel? You can send me info in my email. Its in the description of every video.
More people want to see is How is it compare with vanquish!
I think i covered it but if u have other questions..: )
Cease and Desist from Diawa incoming.
: )
Hi. First of all I would like to say that you are doing a great job! I am a Shimano lover and I own reels only from this company. Recently I am into using the lightest possible tackle. I am impressed by Vanquish 2019 4000 MHG which I use for asp fishing (I am from Poland), however I am looking for lightweight 4000 size reel with normal gear ratio (the problem is that Vanquish 4000 has only HG or XG). In the portfolio of Shimano I found only Vanford which has normal gear ratio and light weigh, nevertheless I think it not as smooth as Vanquish. With a heavy heart I checked the portfolio of Daiwa and found this Luvias Airity 4000 which weight is only 200g and gear ratio 5.3. Getting to the point: how to compare the real size of these two reel? I've heard that Daiwa 4000 is visually bigger than Shimano 4000. So maybe I should take Luvias 3000 to have a reel the same as Vanquish 4000? The thing is that I don't have any shop in the neighbourhood to compare it, I am forced to order it online. I hope that you can asnwer/help me. Thank you in advance. Take care
Daiwa and Shimano will be almost the same size. Daiwa used to be bigger 10 years ago. This is very old rumor that found you. Daiwa abandoned those ABS spools that I actually liked. I still have many of them. Anyway, don't worry, they will be same size and Airity is super smooth reel. Better gears even than Vanquish. By the way the gears in the Vanquish and Vanford are identical. It is the frame and some bearings that are different and make the two reels feel different
the airity is way much good looking than the exist... any day of the week i will choose yhe airity than the exist!
brooo we are fucked man the new exist 22 is there omg looook at this beautiful i think i will send my Exist 18 back and buy an 22 model omg loook at thiisss man
well thats why they released the Airity - to sell some more old Exists..
@@ifishcatfish i hope i get one the money is ready just the release...
The moral of the story is that if you fish fresh water, Vanquish still remains the King.
exactly, I have both reels and the start inertia of the vanquish is just unreal
@@loibigf1053 is that because of the larger gear Daiwa uses you think compared to Shimano? I'm just trying to think and figure out if the way Shimano gears their reels is better than Daiwa
If its larger the gear ratio would be higher. Its just this thick nasty grease they out in the tiny reels
I do saltwater fishing but worried buying a Magnesium framed reel since I heard it will be susceptible to corrosion.
Is that true?
@@bestthingsinceslicedrice That is the ultimate salt water fishing question..... To use magnesium or not to use Magnesium. I always have problems with monocoque design and and sealed drag and difficulty opening. The Shimano, even the Exsence/Stella with or without magnesium, can easily be opened cleaned and re-greased. I would be more comfortable with a Shimano, a reel that I can open, than Daiwa, a reel I can't. I have no intention of dropping a $100 to send the Daiwa to be cleaned. Ask Victor how many good experiences he had with the tool he bought to open the reels and how they change the shape of the tool. If you buy Shimano, you don't have to worry about the Magnesium if you rinse and clean often enough. How much is enough? Now that is the real question.
You are comparing a luvias airity with a high gear ratio with a 2500s vanquish Low gear ratio of course the vanquish feels better. It’s a fact high gear ratio reel doesnt feel as smooth as low gear ratio . Try a Luvias airity lt3000 low gear ratio it will blow any vanquish ( i have vanquish c3000 and Even exsence 21 c3000m ) and the Luvias airity is much smoother in low gear ratio . I have a 2500xh Quick drag so much resistance on the high gear ratio . Thanks mate .
I have had 3 airities, you can watch those videos too. All airity reels up to 2023 have too much resistance due to magseal and sealed bearings. This is a Fact confirmed by Daiwa, which they addressed in the release of the new 2024 Airity. They said the new Airity will not have a lot of resistance like the old. Thanks for watching
Exist def looks more expensive. Plus think the exist gets Daiwa's premium coverage; not sure that's worth the price difference but if they both cost the same, think I'd go with the exist. 😁
Fair.
To expensive reel, i bought a Piscifun Carbon X and it is much better as the Fuego who is much expensive 😉
i dont know about that, but if u like it - happy days!