It's pretty cool how Sean Schemmel and James Marsters are imitating each other's character's style of speaking in their own voices, especially in this episode. It really sells the concept of two minds swapping bodies.
@@nerdtom4513 chill out? You're more angry at my comment than I was making it.. why are you jumping down MY throat? Acting like I'm jumping down someone else's. How bout YOU chill bro
@@NeCoruption I really didn't replied you with anger, you literally countered the original comment with "Not really" like he didn't said something like Goku beat their asses, just that scene was so special. You needed to chill out...
@@EliteRifler It's trash believe it's a form that came out of nowhere, pulled straight out of Trunks' ass, no explanation, no foreshadowing, no lore, and somehow only exclusive to Future Trunks. What? Get the hell out of here, it literally was a missed moment to give him the form he didn't know existed, which was SSJ3. That's why it's trash, so your gotcha of an attempted question is all wrong.
@@hitrule5722 You're talking about a Saiyan stuck in a desolate timeline, who has managed to keep evil at bay on his own. If anyone deserves an "asspull" form its Trunks. Trunks has trained with the Supreme Kai to fight Babidi/Dabura, which means he has been exposed to God Ki. He's also trained/sparred with Goku and Vegeta and has been exposed to their SSB forms. Furthermore, he's been fighting Goku Black and has managed to survive every skirmish. If this doesn't add to his battle power and experience, then idk what does. All of the hardships helps justify the emergence of a new transformation to reflect his struggles and growth as a fighter. As a half human/Saiyan, the emotions surges even higher and compliments his Saiyan DNA. If Goku couldn't maintain SS3, there's no point in giving it to Trunks. His SSR transformation is an accumulation of all the anger/hate/misery of everything that has happened to him from the Androids to Goku Black. Your argument has no depth and you have 0 understanding of empathy.
I guess it makes sense that Beerus' understanding of time travel is very limited since destroyers can't travel through time. The fact that Whis doesn't correct him implies the same, since his power is only limited to 3 minute do overs. If Shin followed them back to Earth, I'm sure he would have corrected Beerus explaining that his actions only saved our timeline and that Future Trunks is actually correct. Given that it's their specialty, only the Supreme Kais understand how time travel truly works and has known about alternate timelines all along. Somehow, I completely missed this until after re-watching episode 55 where Gowasu explains the 4 additional time rings created by someone tampering with time and creating alternate timelines.
Black and Zamasu were not wrong about Trunks using the time machine over and over. It did indeed kind of fucked up the timelines even more than they already were to begin with. Of course, Cell is also to blame for that since he’s the one who killed his Trunks and stole his time machine, making it a much bigger mess than it was already. Ironically enough, the universe that created time traveling technology wasn’t even from our universe or universe 10. But it was universe 12 that started it all. So when you think about Black and Future Zamasu argument against Trunks is rather moot in the grand scheme of things. They should be mad at universe 12 lol.
Ok to make Trunks transformation make sense to you . Its called Super Saiyan Rage . All of the Aura it showed coming from him as he powered up, was all his new forms power, then being condensed and controlled inside of him . He's MUCH stronger now .
The invincible zamasu was from trunk's future. because he never met goku there which is why he never had a reason to fully turn evil. Goku black came from the future of the present goku.
The zamasu from trunks timeline Goku was already dead from the heart virus so Goku never challenged zamasu that's why he never killed his master but Goku black is from the future of the Goku that recovered from the heart virus because trunks gave him a cure so Goku was able to challenge zamasu which was the last straw and zamasu aka Goku black didn't die because of the time ring so even if Beerus killed zamasu from the present that is technically Goku blacks past it won't effect Goku black since he had the time ring when he killed his master in the future to become the supreme Kai for the ring cause maybe he knew that his past zamasu might die one day so he took precautions so he won't be erased from the future
So I'll say it for what ever damn reason the dub changed immortality with indestructible. Zamas wished to be immortal so he could never be killed. I hate when the dub changes these things it screws with the context.
Spoiler alert: Dragon Ball super introduced a New concepts to the dragon Ball lore. Given enough power and ki control individuals can create their own transformations besides the traditional Saiyan form they have shown so far in the universe. For an example Super Saiyan 4 it's not an actual Super Saiyan transformation is a Oozaru form. Like Goku black create his own form Super Saiyan Rose which is his version of Super Saiyan blue his own God ki mixed with his new Super Saiyan body. Trunk was about to go into berserk form similar to broly but he figured out a way to condense the energy of that form into his Super Saiyan 2 form. Which created this new transformation only trunks has access to Super Saiyan 2 rage. There is no true explanation of this form but my own theory is the blue aura not God ki it's more like sold energy similar to Goku Spirit bomb. I think he's drawing the ki energy of the people of Earth directly into his body.
I love how you write this comment as if it is facts when 3/4 of it is just made up head canon😂 ki control and ”enough energy” have nothing to do with the new variations of transformations. They are there to sell toys and make a flashy show, and come out of nowhere because of plot. That is why there is zero explanation as to what Trunks’ new form is, and literally no one questions about that form later like should we help let’s say Gohan achieve that, as it clearly gave ss blue level of power without needing the god training. Or anything similar, actually relevant story telling. No, they just give unique transformations to characters because that makes them stand out and half of the forms make 0 sense in universe because there shouldn’t just be endless amounts of random forms for this one species for no reason. For the forms to feel like an actual ability of a species (which they are still trying to be) instead of silly cartoon power ups, requires there needs to be a pattern of some sort, they need to feel organic, like they were originally. Every saiyan has the same forms because the forms are in the genes of the saiyan species, it has nothing to do with the indivuality of a person using it. Some are cool like SSR being just SSB but due to the mix of natural god ki from Zamasu, the color changed. Or Broly’s green haired form being a mutation of the regular super saiyan form, similar, but different. Rage, Beast, SSBE are all pointless, come out of nowhere, have zero explanation and to top it all, most of them are hardly even acknowledged by anyone. Goku literally doesn’t even start looking at Vegeta or say anything when Vegeta unlocks SSBE, it’s just cool story moment that hold zero weight. Rant/
Goku should’ve transformed to blue in this episode, it would’ve been way better than just getting it, and it still would’ve been the worst transformation
If you remember, Zamasu was already having contempt for mortals before Goku showed up. Once he showed and ended up beating Zamasu in a duel, it turned his already contemptuous view on humanity into full on and outright hatred of them even more. While yes, it was a very petty reason on Zamasu’s part but in short and in a rather twisted way, Goku is kind of to blame too. Indirectly mind you.
One of the moment i love from Goku is his rage after hearing Chichi and Goten's Death, that's he care of about his family
Goku’s rage screams are immaculate 🤌🤌🤌
Whoever said he did it is braindead
Nah “go green” is crazy 😂
love it
" this is what I think of your immortality " - goku
Goku’s rage always gives me chills and Sean’s amazing voice acting and Zamasu (Goku Black) was literally hugging and talking to himself what a creep
It's pretty cool how Sean Schemmel and James Marsters are imitating each other's character's style of speaking in their own voices, especially in this episode. It really sells the concept of two minds swapping bodies.
There were three Zamasu's actually. The one from Trunks's time, the one that Beerus Hakied, and the one that killed Gowasu.
Goku’s rage scene is soo good.
Not really, he got slapped and didn't do anything worthy other than a good voice acting performance
@@NeCoruption Damn dude chill out, he just said the scene was good. You are acting like Vegeta didn't got clapped when he raged against Beerus...
@@nerdtom4513 chill out? You're more angry at my comment than I was making it.. why are you jumping down MY throat? Acting like I'm jumping down someone else's. How bout YOU chill bro
@@NeCoruption I really didn't replied you with anger, you literally countered the original comment with "Not really" like he didn't said something like Goku beat their asses, just that scene was so special. You needed to chill out...
@@nerdtom4513 I'm just as much allowed to say something is not good, as someone is allowed to say it is. Stay bent
10:00 Literally my favourite scene in the whole episode
Goku, Vegeta & Future Trunks were fighting two Zamasus all along
Beerus wasn’t wrong but rather right because the only problem there is the time ring as it prevents the change in time
Best arc in all of dbs i swear 😩
It is, just the end of it falls flat.
Damn vegeta and trunks got folded through that building by a zamasu super hadouken.
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The form Trunks got is called Super Saiyan Rage
The trashiest form the franchise has to offer.
Beast is more trash and illogical @@hitrule5722
@@hitrule5722 It's trash because you believe that the half saiyans don't deserve their forms?
@@EliteRifler It's trash believe it's a form that came out of nowhere, pulled straight out of Trunks' ass, no explanation, no foreshadowing, no lore, and somehow only exclusive to Future Trunks. What? Get the hell out of here, it literally was a missed moment to give him the form he didn't know existed, which was SSJ3.
That's why it's trash, so your gotcha of an attempted question is all wrong.
@@hitrule5722 You're talking about a Saiyan stuck in a desolate timeline, who has managed to keep evil at bay on his own. If anyone deserves an "asspull" form its Trunks.
Trunks has trained with the Supreme Kai to fight Babidi/Dabura, which means he has been exposed to God Ki. He's also trained/sparred with Goku and Vegeta and has been exposed to their SSB forms. Furthermore, he's been fighting Goku Black and has managed to survive every skirmish. If this doesn't add to his battle power and experience, then idk what does.
All of the hardships helps justify the emergence of a new transformation to reflect his struggles and growth as a fighter.
As a half human/Saiyan, the emotions surges even higher and compliments his Saiyan DNA.
If Goku couldn't maintain SS3, there's no point in giving it to Trunks.
His SSR transformation is an accumulation of all the anger/hate/misery of everything that has happened to him from the Androids to Goku Black.
Your argument has no depth and you have 0 understanding of empathy.
I guess it makes sense that Beerus' understanding of time travel is very limited since destroyers can't travel through time. The fact that Whis doesn't correct him implies the same, since his power is only limited to 3 minute do overs. If Shin followed them back to Earth, I'm sure he would have corrected Beerus explaining that his actions only saved our timeline and that Future Trunks is actually correct. Given that it's their specialty, only the Supreme Kais understand how time travel truly works and has known about alternate timelines all along. Somehow, I completely missed this until after re-watching episode 55 where Gowasu explains the 4 additional time rings created by someone tampering with time and creating alternate timelines.
I think it was called Super Saiyan rage if I remember, but having him hold both Black and Zamasu is ridiculous.
Black and Zamasu were not wrong about Trunks using the time machine over and over. It did indeed kind of fucked up the timelines even more than they already were to begin with. Of course, Cell is also to blame for that since he’s the one who killed his Trunks and stole his time machine, making it a much bigger mess than it was already.
Ironically enough, the universe that created time traveling technology wasn’t even from our universe or universe 10. But it was universe 12 that started it all. So when you think about Black and Future Zamasu argument against Trunks is rather moot in the grand scheme of things. They should be mad at universe 12 lol.
That form is Trunk's own Broly like legendary super Saiyan transformation
13:18 you were spot on, they don’t say it outright but the form is called Super Saiyan Rage
In the Manga, Supreme Kai taught Trunks how to heal people. It has some differences, but definitely worth the read
That form is called Super Saiyan Rage Form. It is Trunk's unique transformation.
Ok to make Trunks transformation make sense to you . Its called Super Saiyan Rage . All of the Aura it showed coming from him as he powered up, was all his new forms power, then being condensed and controlled inside of him . He's MUCH stronger now .
That is Super Saiyan Rage
That wasn't Goku raging that was kakarot
Fun ep
Nice reaction
9:48 he already seen Krillin dying in Dragonball
he was saying goku was just as mad as when that happened
What Goku Black does to Goku is so Nasty 😱
Let’s freaking go!! Trunks new form!! Super Saiyan Rage! 🔥🔥🔥
Goku rage was the best scene in this episode period!!!
Yessir ssj rage🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
we know goku really angry when goku black already down but goku still charge and try tu punch him😅
He’s Zamasu from a year into the future
12:33 I didn't know broly was here
Can’t wait for baby vegeta and Goku black to do potara
Great! It is very interesting to see your joint detailed reaction to the film Robocop 1987. This is a cool movie
Do you have any plans to do it?
The trunks transformation was way better in the sub.
I absolutely love this arc so much it's to bad the anime does leave out so much good stuff out of the manga.
The invincible zamasu was from trunk's future. because he never met goku there which is why he never had a reason to fully turn evil. Goku black came from the future of the present goku.
The zamasu from trunks timeline Goku was already dead from the heart virus so Goku never challenged zamasu that's why he never killed his master but Goku black is from the future of the Goku that recovered from the heart virus because trunks gave him a cure so Goku was able to challenge zamasu which was the last straw and zamasu aka Goku black didn't die because of the time ring so even if Beerus killed zamasu from the present that is technically Goku blacks past it won't effect Goku black since he had the time ring when he killed his master in the future to become the supreme Kai for the ring cause maybe he knew that his past zamasu might die one day so he took precautions so he won't be erased from the future
So I'll say it for what ever damn reason the dub changed immortality with indestructible. Zamas wished to be immortal so he could never be killed. I hate when the dub changes these things it screws with the context.
Angry Goku = Kakarot!!
Gohan rage boost is even more powerful
No one asked...
@@nerdtom4513loser
😰 Zamasu did Goku wrong
Spoiler alert: Dragon Ball super introduced a New concepts to the dragon Ball lore. Given enough power and ki control individuals can create their own transformations besides the traditional Saiyan form they have shown so far in the universe. For an example Super Saiyan 4 it's not an actual Super Saiyan transformation is a Oozaru form. Like Goku black create his own form Super Saiyan Rose which is his version of Super Saiyan blue his own God ki mixed with his new Super Saiyan body. Trunk was about to go into berserk form similar to broly but he figured out a way to condense the energy of that form into his Super Saiyan 2 form. Which created this new transformation only trunks has access to Super Saiyan 2 rage. There is no true explanation of this form but my own theory is the blue aura not God ki it's more like sold energy similar to Goku Spirit bomb. I think he's drawing the ki energy of the people of Earth directly into his body.
I love how you write this comment as if it is facts when 3/4 of it is just made up head canon😂 ki control and ”enough energy” have nothing to do with the new variations of transformations. They are there to sell toys and make a flashy show, and come out of nowhere because of plot. That is why there is zero explanation as to what Trunks’ new form is, and literally no one questions about that form later like should we help let’s say Gohan achieve that, as it clearly gave ss blue level of power without needing the god training. Or anything similar, actually relevant story telling.
No, they just give unique transformations to characters because that makes them stand out and half of the forms make 0 sense in universe because there shouldn’t just be endless amounts of random forms for this one species for no reason.
For the forms to feel like an actual ability of a species (which they are still trying to be) instead of silly cartoon power ups, requires there needs to be a pattern of some sort, they need to feel organic, like they were originally. Every saiyan has the same forms because the forms are in the genes of the saiyan species, it has nothing to do with the indivuality of a person using it.
Some are cool like SSR being just SSB but due to the mix of natural god ki from Zamasu, the color changed. Or Broly’s green haired form being a mutation of the regular super saiyan form, similar, but different. Rage, Beast, SSBE are all pointless, come out of nowhere, have zero explanation and to top it all, most of them are hardly even acknowledged by anyone. Goku literally doesn’t even start looking at Vegeta or say anything when Vegeta unlocks SSBE, it’s just cool story moment that hold zero weight.
Rant/
@@grydon6422 Yeah you definitely have 0 understanding
I hate this rage moment. He literally obtains nothing.. I new form, nobody got defeated, and he still got wrekt
Goku should’ve transformed to blue in this episode, it would’ve been way better than just getting it, and it still would’ve been the worst transformation
Also rage trunks is so stupid, you could tell they just wanted a toy to release
So he did all this because you lost a fight, he's so petty
If you remember, Zamasu was already having contempt for mortals before Goku showed up. Once he showed and ended up beating Zamasu in a duel, it turned his already contemptuous view on humanity into full on and outright hatred of them even more. While yes, it was a very petty reason on Zamasu’s part but in short and in a rather twisted way, Goku is kind of to blame too. Indirectly mind you.
How do you watch this show and never understand anything. 😂😂😂😂😂