Mily Balakirev - Tamara, symphonic poem (1867-82)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @daveb3809
    @daveb3809 Год назад +11

    What words describe a piece of music like this? haunting, charming, powerful, fantastic, rich, tragic. Balakirev was a consumate genious. Strange that his music goes almost unnoticed! I remember all those years ago when my dad borrowed a vinyl disc of his first symphony from West Denton library in Newcastle upon Tyne, England. That was how I discovered this music. Balakirev...Borodin...Rimsky Korsakov...Glazunov...Rachmaninov were among the world's greatest musical poets. They left an enduring legacy!

    • @tomascostero9962
      @tomascostero9962 9 месяцев назад +1

      The russian people have a good punch of the greatest master of music all times.

  • @patrickmchenry9746
    @patrickmchenry9746 7 лет назад +117

    Tamara is a tale of the Caucasus Mountains where Balakirev traveled . A beautiful woman beside a river invites travelers into her castle for a night of entertainment and feasting. The next morning a headless body floats down the river and all is quiet again.

    • @rummi72
      @rummi72 7 лет назад +22

      Right you are. If you do not mind I woud like to notice that Balakirev was inspired by the poem of the same name "Tamara" by the great Russian poet and writer Lermontov, with whom Balakirev felt much in common in the sensual sensations of the Caucasus: "We coincide in many ways, I like the same nature as Lermontov, she acts on me as much ... and there are many more strings that Lermontov touches, which respond in me ".

    • @VOLKHVORONOVICH
      @VOLKHVORONOVICH 6 лет назад +11

      Thanks for that story. All too often a "tone poem" is offered as if the music is all that is necessary for enjoyment. But knowing the narrative behind it adds greatly to the relish.

    • @aaaaaaaaaaaa808
      @aaaaaaaaaaaa808 6 лет назад +9

      A great way to die with a woman like that.

    • @brucehutchison3946
      @brucehutchison3946 6 лет назад +20

      Sounds like my neighborhood.

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 5 лет назад

      @@brucehutchison3946 -- You've been MADE, pal! You're on the Gowanus, the lower Hudson or the Erie Canal...Got yer gat?

  • @w1zard45
    @w1zard45 Год назад +16

    Andante maestoso - 0:00
    Poco a poco più animato - 3:59
    Allegro moderato, ma agitato - 4:40
    Poco animato - 5:34
    Poco più animato - 5:48
    Meno mosso (doppio movimento) - 6:33
    Poco meno mosso. Allegretto quasi andantino - 7:25
    Poco più mosso - 8:10
    Più agitato - 8:53
    Poco più animato - 9:18
    Vivace (alla breve) - 9:54
    Poco meno mosso, ma agitato - 10:55
    L’istesso tempo - 13:31
    Pochissimo meno mosso - 15:29
    Poco a poco più animato - 15:43
    Animato - 16:12
    Poco più mosso - 16:30
    Ancora poco più animato - 16:47
    Meno mosso (doppio movimento) - 17:00
    Andante (menno mosso. Tempo del comincio) - 17:35

  • @stephanedutel2077
    @stephanedutel2077 9 лет назад +16

    great performance from this orientalist, what a pleasantful moment !!!

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 6 лет назад +9

    Écouter cette musique est comprendre que le matérialisme est une folie ... Écoutez comme la magie, la beauté et la tragédie ont des voix subtiles et apaisantes !

  • @owengette8089
    @owengette8089 Год назад +9

    4:43 this melody is so gorgeous, so filled with life, I love it!

    • @L777-w1r
      @L777-w1r Год назад +2

      I like also 6:33 and 17:35,

  • @kmrerk
    @kmrerk 5 лет назад +8

    This piece is so skillfully written, I'm totally in awe. No wonder Mily was the guru for all those other composers. So beautiful, one almost forgets it is about an evil
    serial murderer. Another beautiful young man floats lifelessly down the river.

    • @The1976spirit
      @The1976spirit 5 лет назад

      If you wouldn t know the story, would you think of serial murder? Boss Tanaka doesn´t tell you everything! ruclips.net/video/OLvz5E61UNs/видео.html

  • @classicalandmore1
    @classicalandmore1 10 лет назад +34

    What a great piece! Balakirev is definitely one of my favourite Russian composers!
    My favourite however is Alexander Alyabyev.

  • @davisbrant6621
    @davisbrant6621 8 лет назад +10

    thank you so much for adding this recording for all of us to enjoy.

  • @leben.seele9
    @leben.seele9 3 дня назад

    Tengo tiempo escuchando música clásica y sin embargo no habia escuchado está melodía es casi como un pecado no conocerla gracias por compartir gran melodía

  • @brianhadfield7512
    @brianhadfield7512 7 лет назад +6

    I also love the way Svetlanov applies a discreet portamanto to one of the later string phrases.

  • @Miaskofiev
    @Miaskofiev 10 лет назад +41

    This old Svetlanov recording is still the best version I've heard of Balakirev's masterful Tamara. No other interpretation fully captures the sensuous orientalism and raw passion. The care Balakirev took over Tamara is evidenced in the time it took to compose- around fifteen years. Moreover, it influenced other members of the 'Five' well before its completion in 1882. What is not generally appreciated is how indebted Rimsky's inferior but popular Scherherazade is to Tamara. Balakirev's is an altogether more expertly crafted piece mercifully devoid of Rimsky's interminable repetitions.

    • @tashaschneider1419
      @tashaschneider1419 9 лет назад +11

      Myaskofiev This is actually one of the most beautiful pieces of music I have ever heard - wish more people were familiar with Balakirev. His music is wonderful!

    • @Miaskofiev
      @Miaskofiev 9 лет назад +4

      Tasha Schneider
      Thank you for response. As it happens, Balakirev conducted premiere of Tamara in St.Petersburg on this day (19 March) in 1883. In tweeting about it I said: "Only Polovtsian Dances matches its exotic sensuality and savagery."

    • @FanGali
      @FanGali 7 лет назад +1

      (2 years later...helloooo) Yes. He's one of those that deserve so much more recognition. Islamey is marvelous, The lark is gorgeous, Tamara is a fu***** ** * * * * ** *** * masterpiece.

    • @yp3424
      @yp3424 6 лет назад +9

      Myaskofiev I don't agree with your comment. First of all, "Tamara" can't be compared to Korsakov's "Sheherazade",(a suite in 4 parts), because stylistically are two completely different works. Which one is superior can be easily proved by a meticulous study of the 2 scores. On the other hand, M.A.Balakirev was an enigmatic pianist & mathematician from Kazan, who didn't write music professionally. Composing mostly piano works, he spent a lot of time in correspondence with P. I. Tchaikovsky and the other members of the "mighty handful".
      By no mean "Sheherazade" is 'inferior' because it lasts almost 45' and it's a real fountain of tunes, instrumental inventiveness & numerous virtuoso-solo passages. The conductor V. Gergiev has repeatedly praised it.
      Among others, Rimsky- Korsakov wrote about 15-3hour operas, cantatas, many opera-suites & symphonies. A prolific composer & a versatile personality, he was an officer of the imperial navy, a writer, a brilliant orchestrator and teacher.
      P. S. In my opinion,it would be better to compare Balakirev's music to Ippolytov-Ivanov's, because of the russian-oriental "langage",he often used.

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 6 лет назад

      @@yp3424 -- So where does Mussorgsky's 'Dance of Persian Slaves' and 'Moskva-River Dawn' fit in?

  • @mikebutcher2695
    @mikebutcher2695 6 лет назад +28

    Balakirev is much better known as the inspiration behind the nationalist sentiment that produced 'The Mighty Handful' - Cui, Borodin, Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakov and himself. He also imparted valuable insights to Tchaikovsky.......his own works were often completed long after he started them; but when they were finished, they showed a masterful grasp of composition. It is a crime he is so rarely heard today in concert halls in the U.S.

    • @aslkhjbasijt785
      @aslkhjbasijt785 5 лет назад +3

      Historically, he is quite important to Russian music as was Stasov, who didn't compose. Both inspired others and were historically important, but they were also too dominant, pig-headed and obsessive, probably doing as much bad as good. The other composers seemed to flower most when they broke their bonds. In any event, he was not a composer himself of the likes of Tch., Mussorgsky, Borodin or Rimsky-Korsakov. I'll give you Cui. In other words, respectfully, I don't think it is a crime he isn't played much anymore. Occasionally is enough. Personally, I think much of the idea of Russian music or so-called Oriental flavor, is overrated. I suspect if you told people who didn't know his work it was an Italian fantasy or even tribute to Wagner, that is what they'd hear.

    • @IK-so2bm
      @IK-so2bm 3 года назад

      Thanks to RUclips, musical culture lives on.

    • @svyatoslavnechaev9733
      @svyatoslavnechaev9733 Год назад

      ​@@aslkhjbasijt785 no, Mily Alexeevitch based on local folklore and this folklore differs through the regions. I.e. you can differ Wagner from somebody else.

  • @fcim7098
    @fcim7098 2 года назад +6

    8:45 I think this part inspired Rimskij-Korsakov for a theme in his Sharazad III. movement.

    • @owengette8089
      @owengette8089 Год назад

      A lot of Russian romantics had that same kind of melodic style. You can find it in excerpts also by Lyapunov, Glazunov, Gretchaninov, Ippolitov-Ivanov, Borodin, and a whole smattering of others. The Russians sure knew how to write good melodies.

  • @williametheridge1764
    @williametheridge1764 6 лет назад +2

    what a charming work. I never realised how intriguing is Mr B.

  • @wardropper
    @wardropper 5 лет назад +10

    An amazing composer. The negative comments below have some justification ONLY in the sense that his later works seemed not to be able to say anything fresh. His second symphony, for example, isn't a patch on his first, which is full of original delights for the musical ear. As someone mentions below, Tamara took Balakirev 15 years to complete, and that is probably what makes it, for me, a timeless masterpiece.

    • @IK-so2bm
      @IK-so2bm 3 года назад

      Explores the philosophical dilemma of a man eager to copulate even at the threat of costing him his life. And, on the other hand, the woman who envies man's prowess and seeks to immasculate him by having "die in her" than continues to despise him for being inadequate.

  • @giuseppedimarco8358
    @giuseppedimarco8358 7 лет назад +4

    Wonderful!

  • @nikolaicoco333
    @nikolaicoco333 2 года назад

    Danke schön!!! Bamberg

  • @FanGali
    @FanGali 7 лет назад +3

    so far the best version i've heard of this symphonic poem.
    Can anyone time the movements? I'm lost after 1:57 (:D my italian/sheet music knowledge is very limited)
    Andante maestoso - 1 : 02
    Poco a poco più animato - 1:57
    Allegro moderato, ma agitato -
    Poco animato -
    Poco più animato -
    Meno mosso (doppio movimento) -
    Poco meno mosso. Allegretto quasi andantino -
    Poco più mosso -
    Più agitato -
    Poco più animato -
    Vivace (alla breve) -
    Poco meno mosso, ma agitato -
    L’istesso tempo -
    Pochissimo meno mosso -
    Poco a poco più animato -
    Animato -
    Poco più mosso -
    Ancora poco più animato -
    Meno mosso (doppio movimento) -

    • @ziziizlj
      @ziziizlj 3 года назад +4

      Andante maestoso - 0:00
      Poco a poco più animato - 3:59
      Allegro moderato, ma agitato - 4:40
      Poco animato - 5:34
      Poco più animato - 5:48
      Meno mosso (doppio movimento) - 6:33
      Poco meno mosso. Allegretto quasi andantino - 7:25
      Poco più mosso - 8:10
      Più agitato - 8:53
      Poco più animato - 9:18
      Vivace (alla breve) - 9:54
      Poco meno mosso, ma agitato - 10:55
      L’istesso tempo - 13:31
      Pochissimo meno mosso - 15:29
      Poco a poco più animato - 15:43
      Animato - 16:12
      Poco più mosso - 16:30
      Ancora poco più animato - 16:47
      Meno mosso (doppio movimento) - 17:00
      Andante (menno mosso. Tempo del comincio) - 17:35
      Hope this will help you, even if it is 4 years after your request :)

  • @kaybeenullenvoyde9196
    @kaybeenullenvoyde9196 4 года назад +1

    I have a dear redheaded friend named Tamara. This is who she was before her ilness. I have shared this with her.

  • @spaziodanza7512
    @spaziodanza7512 8 лет назад +8

    un lavoro stupendo, credo il migliore del compositore russo

    • @eliozappulla818
      @eliozappulla818 7 лет назад

      Credo che Lei ha ragione!

    • @fcim7098
      @fcim7098 3 года назад

      È proprio impossibile dire chi è il miglior compositore russo, c’è l’imbarazzo della scelta!

  • @sterlinglewis5700
    @sterlinglewis5700 4 года назад +1

    One of my very favourite pieces of 'program' music. Lurid scenario, but one figures that the guys died happy. ;-)

  • @navasmarieluce635
    @navasmarieluce635 10 лет назад +16

    TOUTE L AME RUSSE EST DANS CETTE MUSIQUE LA POESIE AUSSI

    • @eliozappulla818
      @eliozappulla818 7 лет назад +1

      D'ACCORD!

    • @smikaila5462
      @smikaila5462 6 лет назад +1

      Balakirev est d'origine tatare; la musique est orientale et basé sur une légende géorgienne. Où est cette soi-disant l'âme russe ici? Toutes ces fanfaronnades de l'âme russe ne sont qu'un mythe crée par des nationalistes russes.

  • @sylviakaras40
    @sylviakaras40 11 месяцев назад +1

    Lovely piece of music which I'm studying as a part of a Russian music appreciation course. Can anyone tell me anything about the image associated with this video and the artist?

    • @Dylonely_9274
      @Dylonely_9274 10 месяцев назад

      It is a painting by Alphonse Mucha.

  • @MusicalBasics
    @MusicalBasics 5 лет назад +8

    His music is outstanding, brilliant, bold, but I can kind of see why his music isn't as well known as others. He lacks subtlety. He presents themes clearly, deliberately, almost too perfectly.

    • @pilipiano6728
      @pilipiano6728 3 года назад +3

      Well said. It’s just that we indeed have a great taste in music.

    • @L777-w1r
      @L777-w1r Год назад

      It's perfect, God bless you

  • @lucia3480
    @lucia3480 4 года назад +2

    O Demônio
    = Tamara
    Eu sou aquele que escutavas
    No silêncio da meia noite,
    Cujo pensamento sussurrava à tua alma,
    De quem a tristeza vagamente percebias,
    Cuja imagem povoava os teus sonhos.
    Eu sou o olhar que aniquila a esperança;
    Eu sou aquele de quem ninguém gosta;
    Sou o chicote de meus servos na terra,
    Sou o príncipe do saber e da liberdade,
    Sou o inimigo dos céus, a desgraça da natureza,
    E, olha, estou aos teus pés!
    A ti ofereço com ternura
    Esta silenciosa oração de amor,
    O meu primeiro tormento terrenal
    E as minhas primeiras lágrimas.
    Oh! Escuta, por piedade!
    Ao bem e aos céus poderias
    Devolver-me com tuas palavras.
    Coberta pelo sagrado manto de teu amor,
    Lá eu me apresentaria,
    Como um anjo novo com um novo esplendor.
    Oh! Somente escuta, suplico-te,
    Sou o teu servo, eu te amo!
    Assim que te vi,
    Repentinamente comecei a odiar em segredo
    A imortalidade e o meu poder.
    Passei a muito invejar a meu pesar
    As nunca plenas alegrias mundanas;
    Não viver como tu deixa-me combalido,
    E terrível seria viver separado de ti.
    Em meu coração sem sangue um súbito raio
    Fê-lo novamente pulsar,
    E a tristeza no fundo de uma velha ferida
    Começou a mover-se como uma serpente.
    O que é, para mim, essa eternidade sem ti?
    Minhas posses infinitas?
    Vazias e estentóreas palavras,
    Um templo amplo - sem uma deidade!

  • @chrisconnor8086
    @chrisconnor8086 3 года назад +1

    astonishing

  • @hi_seohi
    @hi_seohi Год назад +1

    17:50 beautiful

  • @frankropers5061
    @frankropers5061 7 месяцев назад

    Sister of france , mother of europe , Glory To the Russian Balakirev , shame to macron , love you somuch , music is living emotions.

  • @elioperezcolina
    @elioperezcolina 2 месяца назад

    Bella pieza
    Claro
    Existen mezquinos

  • @marionlovett7167
    @marionlovett7167 10 лет назад +10

    A beautiful piece of music that is hardly ever heard. Thanks for posting this. Is Tamara pronounced "toma"

  • @L777-w1r
    @L777-w1r Год назад

    Oh yeah, perfect

  • @Dylonely_9274
    @Dylonely_9274 10 месяцев назад

    Nice.

  • @freew0rrld
    @freew0rrld 3 года назад +2

    From 18:30 on, wow

    • @NurMav003
      @NurMav003 Месяц назад

      Sound like romeo and Juliet

  • @Mr-Prasguerman
    @Mr-Prasguerman 2 года назад +2

    Soa como uma mistura de korsakov, dvorak e , não sei........

  • @handledav
    @handledav Год назад +1

    tam

  • @tomlin1312
    @tomlin1312 5 лет назад +4

    有林姆斯基高沙可夫「天方夜譚」的影子! 但照網友的解釋,故事結局似剛好相反(a headless body看到就令人頭皮發麻!),不知道巴拉基列夫為何讓這麼恐怖的故事入曲?

    • @Balakirev_
      @Balakirev_ 2 года назад

      民族情结对于他们来说是第一位的 故事具体情节没那么重要

  • @The1976spirit
    @The1976spirit 2 года назад

    John Barry would have been my favourite conductor for Tamara

  • @vqpple3224
    @vqpple3224 6 месяцев назад +1

    1:00

  • @chika8689
    @chika8689 3 года назад +2

    like rimsky-korsakov’s “Scheherazade”

  • @thefantasticmustache584
    @thefantasticmustache584 4 года назад +1

    15:43

  • @paulgreenwald7091
    @paulgreenwald7091 2 года назад +1

    Paul Greenwald

  • @bokte11111
    @bokte11111 9 лет назад +1

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_(poem)

    • @dainulisv
      @dainulisv 8 лет назад +2

      This is not a poem "Demon" (Lermontov)
      This is a poem "Tamara" (Lermontov).
      There is a big difference between the two Tamars.
      One girl a good, but not so for what this music

    • @SpectatorAlius
      @SpectatorAlius 7 лет назад

      'Tamara' has been a popular name in Georgia since the reign of Queen Tamara about 800 years ago.

  • @alessandropelizzoli6613
    @alessandropelizzoli6613 5 лет назад +1

    Qualcuno qua sotto parla di lontananza di questa Musica dal "materialismo", e poi ne sottolinea in certo modo la sensualità.... Ma la sensualità è anch' essa una forma di materialismo.... E Balakirev non è Skrjabin....

  • @gabriel-qv5ou
    @gabriel-qv5ou 6 лет назад +1

    Name of painting please ??

  • @tomascostero9962
    @tomascostero9962 2 года назад

    2:29

  • @ChillinDylan2875
    @ChillinDylan2875 Год назад

    8:23

  • @Selfdefencenoob
    @Selfdefencenoob 4 года назад

    Anyone know the title of the painting?

  • @Nissa-Nissa
    @Nissa-Nissa 6 лет назад +1

    Such a beautiful music!!
    I'm just sorry that I can't stand the look of the right hand of this poor woman which is drawn as if it was a left hand x_x''' But that's probably just my occupational bias...

    • @karamjitsingh8179
      @karamjitsingh8179 5 лет назад +2

      It's probably sombody else's hand !!!

    • @wardropper
      @wardropper 5 лет назад +1

      Your occupation ought to inform you of what a work of art is. The picture is a beautiful representation of an idea. For all we know, Tamara had two left hands... She was a witch.

    • @adamswift3197
      @adamswift3197 4 года назад

      Dammit now I can't unsee that

    • @GreenLeafUponTheSky
      @GreenLeafUponTheSky 3 года назад

      @@karamjitsingh8179 Yeah you caught me, it’s my hand

    • @GreenLeafUponTheSky
      @GreenLeafUponTheSky 3 года назад

      😏

  • @isabelledargentre7381
    @isabelledargentre7381 Год назад

    Assez difficile
    Je préfère les autres du groupe des 5
    Rimski Prokofiev et même borodine
    Jamais entendu ds mon éducation si classique

  • @ChimozuFu
    @ChimozuFu Год назад

    The versión performed by the orchestre of Montreal is the best one. It is on Spotify. Sadly this versión doesn't do the song justice

  • @deliadimarco1218
    @deliadimarco1218 4 года назад

    Musica poco emozionante e un po' confusa. si notano reminescenze di Korsakov!

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 5 лет назад +1

    Balakirev era un dilettante,nulla a che vedere con un Tchaikowsky.
    Opere come questa sono totalmente e giustamente ignorate perché non hanno qualità.
    La Russia deve ringraziare eternamente l'aver avuto un Tchaikowsky e naturalmente Rachmaninov,etc.ma non degli imbelli dilettanti che erano il gruppo dei cinque.

    • @jemtheweeknd97
      @jemtheweeknd97 2 месяца назад

      Слушай дилеттанте, ненравиться их творчество, не слушай, зачем желчь набрасываешь, если аргументов то нет?

    • @samuelariasramos6082
      @samuelariasramos6082 2 месяца назад +1

      Tchaikovsky es un gigante, uno de los mayores músicos de la historia, cualquier comparación con los músicos del grupo de los 5 es imposible, porque son niveles diferentes. Pero esto no quita interés a los músicos del grupo de los 5. Es como si hubiera que comparar a todos los músicos con Beethoven, sería muy difícil escuchar música clásica.

    • @愚かファン
      @愚かファン 18 дней назад

      Ахах, так без Могучей Кучки Чайковский не был бы тем Чайковским, которого ты слышал)
      И да, далеко не все дилетанты- дилетанты в своем деле. У Балакирева не было навыков, но было свое чувство вкуса и основные музыкальные навыки.
      Просто возможно они не понятны не русскому человеку😉

  • @calebhu6383
    @calebhu6383 11 месяцев назад

    12:43

  • @Dylonely_9274
    @Dylonely_9274 10 месяцев назад

    9:54

  • @therealrealludwigvanbeethoven
    @therealrealludwigvanbeethoven 7 месяцев назад

    9:00