60FPS on PS5: Red Dead 2, DriveClub, Arkham Knight + More! Unofficial Patches Tested on Modded PS5

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @gamingoptimized
    @gamingoptimized 9 месяцев назад +2384

    Still so weird that there is not a RDR2 60 FPS Patch by Rockstar

    • @fen_n4088
      @fen_n4088 9 месяцев назад +695

      Why patch the game when you can sell it full price a second time ?

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 9 месяцев назад +751

      ​@@fen_n4088 Still so weird that they haven't sold the game a second time on PS5 and XSX

    • @bkborngaming3586
      @bkborngaming3586 9 месяцев назад +275

      $70 rdr2 remaster on the way

    • @ErenTheWarcriminal
      @ErenTheWarcriminal 9 месяцев назад +98

      It’s rockstar, that shouldn’t be surprising at all

    • @BVargas78
      @BVargas78 9 месяцев назад +89

      It's because they are run by mean spirited people.

  • @TheSubZero187
    @TheSubZero187 9 месяцев назад +1127

    My heart skipped a beat thinking we got a patch for RDR2….

    • @thepadster123
      @thepadster123 9 месяцев назад +110

      same....this was a cruel video title 😂

    • @JCORR76
      @JCORR76 9 месяцев назад +18

      Haha me too. Another game that deserves a 60fps patch is SOMA

    • @rustys7349
      @rustys7349 9 месяцев назад +23

      just play it on pc and get 120fps

    • @maajkemii
      @maajkemii 9 месяцев назад +8

      same, I was like ''brb installing'' but than I saw the rest of the title of the video

    • @maajkemii
      @maajkemii 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@rustys7349 I would, I'm a PC gamer but I didn't upgrade for years and I'm getting like 40FPS max on my PC and I'm spoiled, I won't play it if I can't get at least 60

  • @ilikeheavymuzic135
    @ilikeheavymuzic135 9 месяцев назад +1080

    Out of all the games I’ve played on my PS5, RDR2 and Bloodborne are the 2 that absolutely need and deserve a 60fps patch. 4K is cool and a native PS5 version of either would be welcome, but I’d be very happy with just a patch

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 9 месяцев назад +48

      These games are perfect examples of what neglecting the PC can be bad for consoles. Neither launched with PC in mind (Bloodborne especially) and so none of the work needed to ensure higher framerates would work had happened. Rockstar did a bunch of stuff for PC after the fact which they haven't put in the resources to backport.
      GTA6 will likely suffer a similar fate

    • @gatolocoowo
      @gatolocoowo 9 месяцев назад +68

      maybe 4k in RDR2 is a need too, it looks too blurry for my eyes :C

    • @Oxenfroschgeneral
      @Oxenfroschgeneral 9 месяцев назад +26

      and rockstar will sell gta6 with 30fps again

    • @ilikeheavymuzic135
      @ilikeheavymuzic135 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@gatolocoowo yeah the checkerboard upscaled sub 4K resolution does make the image appear very soft, I do agree. But over time I get used to it, it kinda adds to the aesthetic of it being like an old timey movie on film in a way imo

    • @ilikeheavymuzic135
      @ilikeheavymuzic135 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@Oxenfroschgeneral I think a 40fps mode for 120hz screens at reduced resolution could be possible. But yeah I don’t think GTA6 will have 60fps at launch, they’ll save that for the PS6 remaster like they always do

  • @_anon
    @_anon 9 месяцев назад +167

    It's such a shame consoles are so locked down. Drive Club at 60FPS or more would be amazing. Hopefully one day with emulation it'll be possible.

    • @isaac3045x
      @isaac3045x 9 месяцев назад +11

      @@Pinkman443 lol wat? xbox is also a closed platform, you should've said PC if anything.

    • @GaminylGames
      @GaminylGames 9 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@Pinkman443Driveclub isn't on XB or PC brother

    • @GameDynastyPro
      @GameDynastyPro 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@isaac3045xdriveclub is playstation exclusive

  • @phucnguyen0110
    @phucnguyen0110 9 месяцев назад +566

    Driveclub at 60 FPS is an absolute treat!

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 9 месяцев назад +34

      Gravity Rush 2 is also a technical treat.

    • @thepsychedelicmicroscope4688
      @thepsychedelicmicroscope4688 9 месяцев назад +51

      I wish we got a Driveclub 2 on PS5 I imagine it would be the best looking racing game ever made.

    • @th3orist
      @th3orist 9 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@thepsychedelicmicroscope4688easily. I think it would mop the floor even with gt7.

    • @visualfernomenal
      @visualfernomenal 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@mitchjames9350 I have Gravity Rush 2 on my mind to play on PS5, but I can't believe it's locked at 30fps. tf

    • @thepsychedelicmicroscope4688
      @thepsychedelicmicroscope4688 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@th3orist Oh yeah easily just compare Gram Turismo Sport to Driveclub and Driveclub is an earlier title in the life of the PS4 (2014) and it looks amazing the snow, rain, lighting everything looks great. It’s a shame that there seemed to be some backlash from the GT creators and that’s why the studio was shut down. But I think both games could have coexisted. If you watch the DF video on PS4 reveal they say that Creator of Gran Turismo was upset when they showed Driveclub and how good it looked on the PS4 especially since Gran Turismo 6 was coming out and on the PS3 and looked nowhere near as good.

  • @MsUltraBob
    @MsUltraBob 9 месяцев назад +198

    Red Dead Redemption 2, Bloodborne and the Batman Arkham trilogy would be games I would absolutely love a Ps5 upgrade. I hope Rockstar does something before GT6 arrives.

    • @hpickettz34
      @hpickettz34 9 месяцев назад +7

      The rain was over done.

    • @jgunner94
      @jgunner94 9 месяцев назад +4

      What about the leaks of a next gen RDR2 that came from Xbox? Wasn’t that a thing?

    • @00Dann99
      @00Dann99 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@hpickettz34the rain is probably the worst thing about RD2. It actually looks so bad in some areas

    • @slowmercy69
      @slowmercy69 9 месяцев назад

      J K Simmons Laugh: You serious?!

    • @ayourmum8521
      @ayourmum8521 9 месяцев назад

      @@00Dann99on ps4 pro it just doesn’t look great imo. I played it twice on ps4 pro but bought it again on series x for like 15 bucks and it’s sadly just the one x version but it still looks so much better.

  • @TheAbdID
    @TheAbdID 9 месяцев назад +450

    You guys should do more Videos like that so that hopefully sony or the developers get pushed to unlock the fps of many games instead of reselling it as a "remake"

    • @zen_kj
      @zen_kj 9 месяцев назад +25

      It’s already annoying that they try to sell these as remakes. But they do it so late in the development cycle that you almost don’t want to play anymore.

    • @cun7us
      @cun7us 9 месяцев назад +8

      *Remaster

    • @edwardadrian5173
      @edwardadrian5173 9 месяцев назад +5

      Sony is releasing pathetic remaster for a reason, MONEY. According with numbers players on playstation like to buy remaster instead of asking for new games.

    • @qwerttzizzi
      @qwerttzizzi 9 месяцев назад +1

      its not about Sony..Rockstar is too greedy

    • @SigmaGigaChad-yv4ci
      @SigmaGigaChad-yv4ci 9 месяцев назад

      Not related but what is the game at 00:31?

  • @fondajames
    @fondajames 9 месяцев назад +107

    So great seeing Gracvity Rush 2 getting attention of any kind, what a special game. recently replayed it and it has aged so well, it really deserves a 60 FPS mode

    • @Tanto_lulu
      @Tanto_lulu 9 месяцев назад

      there is a movie in the works apparently
      @RedPanda_______

    • @stormysoup1083
      @stormysoup1083 9 месяцев назад +3

      @RedPanda_______there likely wont, Sony shutdown the studio that made it a few years ago

    • @fondajames
      @fondajames 9 месяцев назад +1

      @stormysoup1083 the director of GR1 and 2 expressed interest in making a 3rd so unlikely yes but not impossible. Maybe the movie, good or likely bad, will make that possible

    • @terry.1428
      @terry.1428 9 месяцев назад +2

      Gravity rush live action movie is confirmed so maybe we might get gravity rush 3.

    • @Dorraj
      @Dorraj 9 месяцев назад +1

      I played and loved the remaster of the first game, and was supremely disappointed to find the 2nd game was locked at 30. The gameplay requires you to precisely aim to attack it's like butter in the first game, and is super sluggish in the second. I love both games but man I will never get over how sluggish 2 feels at 30..

  • @KevinJ.-rc4ih
    @KevinJ.-rc4ih 9 месяцев назад +35

    One of my favorite things about this gen is performance upgrades of PS4 games. Days Gone, TLOU2 and Ghosts of Tsushima at 4K 60fps destroys most of the current gen games I’ve played.

  • @JoshuaLundberg
    @JoshuaLundberg 9 месяцев назад +336

    Love how Richard is the cowboy doing all the 'out of curiosity' testing of kit from weird APU setups to hacked PS5s.

    • @1faithless
      @1faithless 9 месяцев назад +8

      That's where DF stands

    • @rustyshackleford3401
      @rustyshackleford3401 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeehaw partner

    • @SigmaGigaChad-yv4ci
      @SigmaGigaChad-yv4ci 9 месяцев назад +1

      Not related but what is the game at 00:31?

    • @visualfernomenal
      @visualfernomenal 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@SigmaGigaChad-yv4ci about 69% sure it's Killzone: Shadow Fall.

    • @SigmaGigaChad-yv4ci
      @SigmaGigaChad-yv4ci 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@visualfernomenal Damn seemed like a newly released game, aged so well

  • @WotansCry
    @WotansCry 9 месяцев назад +30

    Request for upvoting the following comment so that the DF Team sees it:
    In Driveclub there is an additional option to bench PS5 with. And it is the games Photomode.
    On PS4 it works like that: you enter the mode and if you keep the camera still , PS4 will start to better the rendered screen with all kinds of enhancements. Better shadows, better AF, better distance LoD and the cherry on top is the last step - supersampling for best Antialiasing.
    This whole process is shown as a red bar filling up letting the player know when rendering is complete for best possibke screenshots. I played the hell out of Driveclub on PS4 and still fireing it up occasionally. The mentioned improving of the screenshot takes on PS4 up to 12 seconds... And i always wondered how fast PS5 could do it when fully onlocked.
    Driveclub when uprendered in Photomode looks breathtaking !
    If PS5 would do the enhancing step in an instant, that further would underline the Powergap between the 2 Gens.
    And would make one dream of playing it on PS5 in its fully enhanced photo mode...
    Now that would blow everything else out of its pixelated water!

  • @ajascson
    @ajascson 9 месяцев назад +120

    The Entire Arkham Trilogy should get a 60fps patch

    • @WH250398
      @WH250398 9 месяцев назад +11

      You can play Arkham City at higher framerates if you own the discversion. 1.0 ran unlocked. It is however limited to 59fps, and it has hard drops in the open world.

    • @destroyermcw626
      @destroyermcw626 9 месяцев назад

      @@WH250398I was thinking about this for my Xbox one X and Series X to test because both are 60fps on main menu and Challenge mode and Riddler’s revenge for Arkham Asylum and City.

    • @batcout8787
      @batcout8787 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@WH250398 Does this apply to Arkham Asylum as well?

    • @WH250398
      @WH250398 9 месяцев назад

      @@batcout8787 No. Locked at 30fps from 1.00.

    • @DanThompsonbateria
      @DanThompsonbateria 8 месяцев назад

      @@batcout8787 Arkham Asylum is 60fps on PS5. I have it and it runs perfectly on PS5 in 60fps.

  • @cleric670
    @cleric670 9 месяцев назад +69

    Since the vast majority of game sales are now digital it seems like Sony could have a fairly significant profit by investing in some kind of OS level FPS boost to lure people into the Playstation Store to pick up older highly rated titles running at 60fps. They could create an entirely new category in the store for fps boosted older titles, the library could be made extensive even without game studio support if they added a dedicated team to do the development work similar to how Illusion does the work. Heck just hire Illusion to DO THE WORK... as long as the original developer is willing to sign some kind of agreement for the work it could definitely turn out great and Sony can ABSOLUTELY apply the pressure to get this done if they wanted to.

    • @Prisoner_ksc2-303
      @Prisoner_ksc2-303 9 месяцев назад +8

      Since discs are just glorified installers now, and are just used to check license when launching a game, this "OS level fps boost" would work also for physical copies

    • @Raigeki-SC
      @Raigeki-SC 9 месяцев назад +13

      @@Prisoner_ksc2-303 discs are not launchers now, they still contain the game, stop just playing call of duty and you will know...

    • @obredaanps3
      @obredaanps3 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@Raigeki-SC - The discs contain the game but the game is still installed entirely on your internal drive and the game doesn't run anything from the disc beyond launching the game.

    • @Raigeki-SC
      @Raigeki-SC 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@obredaanps3 correct, but I can do this offline, no internet required, unless the game is not on the disc, like for example call of duty, but I can do it with plenty of other games

    • @Ward413
      @Ward413 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@Raigeki-SCHogwarts was entirely digital as well. I bought it on disc and still had to download the game, all 80gb. The disc installed nothing. Pissed me off.

  • @ReelFiends
    @ReelFiends 9 месяцев назад +53

    Literally just finished replaying Arkham Knight on PC at 4k, around 90 fps. Still just a gorgeous game and, like many have noted, somehow still looks more current gen than most games out. If you can play a better version of the game than what last gen offers, then the choice is obvious.

    • @Guitarrista7777
      @Guitarrista7777 9 месяцев назад

      I unlock it at more than 120fps on a 4k PC

    • @lottji
      @lottji 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@Guitarrista7777nobody cares about your attempt at flexing

    • @Guitarrista7777
      @Guitarrista7777 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@lottji to your old lady yes

  • @nicholaslalonde2117
    @nicholaslalonde2117 9 месяцев назад +32

    Always going to like these videos talking about performance boost on previous gen games, criminal that some of these games are abandoned and stuck at 30 fps.

  • @WH250398
    @WH250398 9 месяцев назад +109

    Driveclub is one of the most underrated games ever. Such a great racing game which still looks great years later. But such a shame it never got a 60fps mode!

    • @ricepony33
      @ricepony33 9 месяцев назад +5

      PSVR2 mode!

    • @ayourmum8521
      @ayourmum8521 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@ricepony33yeah I think they just gave up on it because they already have gran turismo. I Can confirm that gran turismo in psvr2 is absolutely incredible.

    • @morcheba2184
      @morcheba2184 9 месяцев назад +5

      Driveclub's fantasy tracks were amazing for online multiplayer I also remember the head of the studio was looking into tyre models and even how petrol sloshed in the tank ..then shut gone
      I do see similarities of evolution studio in games like dirt 5 and others but nothing came close to driving around a Scottish themed loch in a Bentley

    • @loogie_sp
      @loogie_sp 9 месяцев назад +3

      It's also a shame that I can't even redownload it. I have to hunt down a physical copy somewhere

    • @ricepony33
      @ricepony33 9 месяцев назад

      100% I just hooked up my rig with PC Simhub streaming from GT7 for shakers at each corner and a big butt kicker for shifting. Outstanding!@@ayourmum8521

  • @JulianCallan
    @JulianCallan 9 месяцев назад +60

    Driveclub at 60fps looks unbelievably good.

  • @AnimeUniverseDE
    @AnimeUniverseDE 9 месяцев назад +50

    Great to see you covering Gravity Rush 2! Sony should make more games like it again.

  • @mhjmstultiens
    @mhjmstultiens 9 месяцев назад +25

    A treasure trove! Would buy 60 fps Driveclub and Gravity Rush 2 among many other titles in a heartbeat.

    • @kaikiske7436
      @kaikiske7436 9 месяцев назад +1

      Driveclub has been delisted. It will never get an official patch. Not enough people bought it when it came out😢😢😢😢

  • @elbeetlebeasto
    @elbeetlebeasto 9 месяцев назад +14

    Devs should just bake in an uncapped framerate option into all new games. They know that eventually their games will be played on a more powerful console down the road, and I don't see any downside to letting players enable it, especially if it came with a warning that the feature is experimental. I absolutely loathe when performance goes unutilized

  • @_gelon
    @_gelon 9 месяцев назад +29

    Illusion, the developer of these patches, is also working on a real-time framerate analyzer plugin for OBS, that will probably lead the DF VirtualDub method to be outdated.

    • @bukko
      @bukko 9 месяцев назад

      This person has been amazing for us fans in these videos. Maybe not so much for Sony, but I’d love if people made more noise to work these into reality.

    • @trignite
      @trignite 9 месяцев назад

      He also did a bloodborne fps patch for PS4 Pro, and done a TON of fps patches for RPCS3 (PS3 Emulator) and more.

  • @FilledWithChi11
    @FilledWithChi11 9 месяцев назад +22

    This is why I like PC gaming you don’t have to worry about if Sony or Microsoft or the devs “feel” like updating older games for new hardware. With a PC every game is backwards compatible and not only that most have graphics mods that can make the games look even better.

    • @16valveBravoSpoonz
      @16valveBravoSpoonz 9 месяцев назад +4

      couldnt agree more, an Open platform will always be better than anything thats locked down by a big corporation. Money is the motivator in console games, if they cant pass it off as a "remaster" then nothing gets done about it, and all these wonderful games at 30fps are stuck there forever. Its pretty sad.

    • @davidalvarado9957
      @davidalvarado9957 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@16valveBravoSpoonzit's not always like that. You have FPS boost on xbox. A lot more games work with it than I thought it would. It's great.

    • @fishfood8711
      @fishfood8711 9 месяцев назад +11

      ehh, spending hours tinkering with graphical settings, learning about different hardware components, figuring out what to do when something isnt going the way it’s supposed to just isn’t for some people

    • @snozbaries7652
      @snozbaries7652 9 месяцев назад

      yeah, god forbid people learn something @@fishfood8711

    • @ThePreciseClimber
      @ThePreciseClimber 9 месяцев назад

      @@fishfood8711 True. Last year it felt like every other game I played on my computer required some sort of tinkering/fixing/modding, etc. E.g. Sonic Generations had some serious issues with frame pacing and freezing for me. After a bunch of modding, I managed to get rid of bad frame pacing but the game still likes to randomly freeze for a couple of seconds every now and then. While the Xbox Series X version runs smooth as butter at 4k.
      I would love for Sony to do their own FPS boost initiative.

  • @ammarahmed7566
    @ammarahmed7566 9 месяцев назад +5

    Hats out to illusion the guy keeping the rpcs3, ps4 and ps5 scene alive. Your guys motorstorm video was awesome as well

  • @nice_bnuuy
    @nice_bnuuy 9 месяцев назад +53

    It's unacceptable that games such as Gravity Rush 2 and Bloodborne do not have 60 fps patches on PS5

    • @Sladey1601
      @Sladey1601 9 месяцев назад +3

      Bloodborne runs at 120fps on a jailbroken ps5

    • @jgunner94
      @jgunner94 9 месяцев назад +8

      It’s pretty crazy Bloodborne hasn’t had that treatment cause reflexes and timing is a big part of the gameplay and it’s a beautiful game so it getting upgrades in resolution and frame rate makes a whole lot of sense.

    • @SimiCantStandYaBits
      @SimiCantStandYaBits 9 месяцев назад +3

      I know, from soft is so lazy!

    • @cun7us
      @cun7us 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@SimiCantStandYaBits releasing Armored Core VI a year and a half after Elden Ring, lazy? I don't think so mate. They're clearly busy, maybe too busy to be worrying about performance patches on older games.

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 9 месяцев назад

      @@cun7us it was a different team in From Software.

  • @rocketpunchgo1
    @rocketpunchgo1 9 месяцев назад +19

    JUSTICE FOR DRIVE CLUB (and The Order 1886 for that matter).

  • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
    @youuuuuuuuuuutube 9 месяцев назад +7

    4:29 That's exactly what I had been telling you guys years ago but most of the time, I think it was John being like "I wish they could LOCK it to 30fps instead of having an uneven unlocked framerate", well a few years in the future and now you kind of wish the opposite had happened.

  • @mitchjames9350
    @mitchjames9350 9 месяцев назад +27

    Gravity Rush with its high graphic fidelity, amazing particle effects and physics running as good as it does on the Pro is a technical masterpiece and shows what is potential for the PS5 and Series S/X.

    • @techsamurai11
      @techsamurai11 9 месяцев назад +1

      That’s a beautiful looking game. I’d never heard of it before this…

  • @rouven_og
    @rouven_og 9 месяцев назад +11

    One thing I remember about Driveclub is, that is has a photo mode which increases graphic fidelity if the camera stays still.
    That decreased performance quite a lot on PS4, a little less on PS4 Pro. You could feel, it dropped sub 30 FPS.
    Could be a good benchmark to test the PS5 performance.

  • @SlayerSeraph
    @SlayerSeraph 9 месяцев назад +29

    Was hoping to see Gravity Rush 2 in there 17:35 saw GR2 in there - one of the BEST PS Games ever! Truly a Gem - it's need an official 4K 60fps or even 4K 120 FPS Mode ASAP!

    • @AnimeUniverseDE
      @AnimeUniverseDE 9 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah exactly, it is truly a gem and should get that upgrade. Although my hope for that is pretty slim as Sony basically abandoned all of their Japanese development teams. Anything regarding Gravity Rush and all the other innovative and smaller games like it that Sony has in their backlog will probably be stuck without a patch or re-release.
      And if I were you I wouldn't go out of your way to look up screenshots of the Gravity Rush movie, it's truly horrible what Sony is planning to do with this IP...

    • @antiquecardboard
      @antiquecardboard 9 месяцев назад +1

      I love the visual style of Gravity Rush but never understood why people like it so much. I played the original Vita version and found it incredibly clunky. It wasn't fun to play. Is GR2 on PS4 much different?

    • @jeandelafuente1
      @jeandelafuente1 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@antiquecardboard it's almost the same as the original one. weird and nauseating controls at first, then you get used to it

  • @FilippoTarpini
    @FilippoTarpini 9 месяцев назад +14

    Sony really needs to be something about these. They could just release a small diff patch to the game executable to force it to 60 after asking for permission to devs. Why isn't this being done?

    • @PurushNahiMahaPurush
      @PurushNahiMahaPurush 8 месяцев назад

      That’s the thing, they’d have to ask for permission which means that they’d have to employ manpower for this and it seems like this is not a priority for them.

    • @VisForVindetta
      @VisForVindetta 5 месяцев назад

      It’s not a Sony issue. It’s a developer issue.

  • @simongrozov1801
    @simongrozov1801 9 месяцев назад +35

    Please don't pay Rockstar another penny.

    • @ImViruxx
      @ImViruxx 9 месяцев назад +2

      Why? Everyone should buy a second copy of RDR2 and maybe they will do a 60fps patch

    • @jorge69696
      @jorge69696 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@ImViruxx Never pay for hypotheticals.

    • @watchmehope6560
      @watchmehope6560 9 месяцев назад +1

      thats the stupidest thing I ever read. This just shows "these idiots would buy our ancient games. We don't even gotta touch it!" By that logic, every game that's on old gen/ps3 should of been considered for current gen..yet they aren't. hmmm....@@ImViruxx

  • @YDINO69
    @YDINO69 9 месяцев назад +35

    We need a driveclub retro tech review

    • @tapsofosiris3110
      @tapsofosiris3110 9 месяцев назад

      It's not retro tech.

    • @ItsHatlolOfficial
      @ItsHatlolOfficial 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@tapsofosiris3110 It's a decade old

    • @tapsofosiris3110
      @tapsofosiris3110 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@ItsHatlolOfficial DRIVECLUB still has the best windshield rain physics of any racing game. It's engine sounds and how they were implemented is still the best in any racing game. They were recorded positionally, not digitally mixed to emulate position. Sound also reacts physically to all surfaces up to a certain culling point. All Forza, Assetto Corza, and Need For Speed games still use an archaic sound model. Even it's cars have a higher polycount than some of the cars in Forza Motorsport 2023. As a matter of fact the way in which the game is rendered, known as Deferred Rendering/Physically-based Shading, is still being used to this day. It was also one of the first ever racing games to implement TAA into it's rendering pipeline. I dare you to fire up Project cars 3 which released in in 2020 then DRIVECLUB (2014) and tell me it's "retro". DC mops the floor with PC3 both in visuals and Audio. Due to Moore's Law stagnation the whole "it's ten years old therefore it's obsolete" point is pretty moot. DRIVECLUB is still ahead of the curve in many regards, and in the others it's only been caught-up to. DRIVECLUB is NOT Retro...yet.
      I apologize for the long-winded comment. I'm simply very passionate about this game and proud of our achievement. No offense was meant toward any other games or developers.

  • @mooNshader33
    @mooNshader33 9 месяцев назад +7

    This is exactly why I have a daily console and another for these games , Bloodborne at 60fps is incredible. Wish Sony would simply give us 60fps patches.

    • @valleypanda
      @valleypanda 9 месяцев назад +1

      Can you spare me a extra so i can enjoy bloodborne at 60 too 😊

  • @otheruck
    @otheruck 9 месяцев назад +9

    i'm still upset that not one version of Crash Team Racing can run above 30fps unless you're on Switch emulation, and now this! It's insane to see that game with all of its bells and whistles at 60fps!

  • @salembejaoui1880
    @salembejaoui1880 9 месяцев назад +6

    God I wish Studios and developers came back to their older games and gave them a resolution/FPS boost so that they could run better on new hardware rather than keeping them stuck with the limitations of the consoles they were released for. They can easily being life back to their older games and more people would buy them

  • @anabang1251
    @anabang1251 9 месяцев назад +9

    I love Gravity Rush 1 and especially 2 so much. A shame that the series hasn‘t got any update after the Japan Studio closure.

  • @Schnyger
    @Schnyger 9 месяцев назад +71

    I'd love to see DF do a video on what the emulation scene is doing for remastering PS2 games.
    They're making wide-screen patches, texture packs, bug fixes, reshaders, and more.
    They're really doing the Lords work

    • @rubenssz
      @rubenssz 9 месяцев назад +14

      Is there a channel that follows these remasters specifically?

    • @karehaqt
      @karehaqt 9 месяцев назад

      They'll only do that if it runs on overpriced FPGA hardware because John seems to think software emulation is beneath him and only for poor people, something DF doesn't want to cater for.

    • @beyshadow
      @beyshadow 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@karehaqtMore that software solutions don't have perfect compatibility and mismatch between asset quality and resolution often looks strange.

  • @blususpect
    @blususpect 9 месяцев назад +9

    It’s actually so annoying Rockstar hasn’t made a PS5 patch for RDR2…

  • @lucashoffmannn
    @lucashoffmannn 9 месяцев назад +18

    What a stupid waste the PS5 is. Shame on the companies that aren't willing to spend a single cent on development time to patch these awesome games.

  • @phillydavison
    @phillydavison 9 месяцев назад +15

    RDR2 on PS5 needs at the very least a native 4k version like the Series X has.

  • @batcout8787
    @batcout8787 9 месяцев назад +17

    Rocksteady releasing a 60 fps patch for the Arkham Trilogy is a good way of saying sorry for making Suicide Squad.

  • @MrBjax9000
    @MrBjax9000 9 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for this video! Keep doing this series because I think little by little. This helps developers realize that the majority of the market wants 60 frame games on console!

  • @MarceloTezza
    @MarceloTezza 9 месяцев назад +5

    Thats type of content that makes me really excited about DF with the professionalism of Witchard!

  • @XiLock_Alotx
    @XiLock_Alotx 9 месяцев назад +7

    Dammit. I got excited thinking there was official announcements for RDR2 ps5 60fps patch. lol. I need to read the entire description next time😂😂

  • @izbreez9615
    @izbreez9615 9 месяцев назад +4

    DF you got me excited for a second since I've been waiting for official 60fps patches on these specific games on ps5 😭

  • @kjeeb
    @kjeeb 9 месяцев назад +3

    What an awesome video Rich! Thanks to illusion for their work! Wish this 'what if' could be a reality from Sony but I doubt it

  • @arthurchu4491
    @arthurchu4491 9 месяцев назад +9

    No official 4k 60fps patch for bloodborne and drive club is a sacrilege! Damn you, Sony!

    • @valleypanda
      @valleypanda 9 месяцев назад

      They delisted driveclub

  • @GrandAce
    @GrandAce 9 месяцев назад +12

    It’s clear that RDR2 was made with care and effort by Rockstar when it came out , I dont get why they wont give it the same treatment now

    • @hystericalren
      @hystericalren 9 месяцев назад +1

      Because they had the hope that it will be a money printing machine like gta 5 but it wasn't even close.

    • @HelloImCrimson
      @HelloImCrimson 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@hystericalrenIt would have been if Cockstar supported it in the slightest.

  • @CaptainTShirt
    @CaptainTShirt 9 месяцев назад +3

    Driveclub man…if it just got more attention. Such a gem. Makes me so sad to hear about its fate. It really deserves so, SO much more.

  • @TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99
    @TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99 9 месяцев назад +6

    Fascinating stuff Rich, I really think Sony could benefit from a FPS boost like initiative.

  • @SiixCurses
    @SiixCurses 9 месяцев назад +10

    This is just sad. One modder can get these games running at 60, but billion dollar companies with 100s of employees can't be bothered.

  • @Alcatraz760
    @Alcatraz760 9 месяцев назад +9

    I'm convinced Vsync toggles should be mandatory on console games. As a PC gamer it's frankly embarrassing that players need to beg developers/publishers to play at 60fps.

    • @BlackEagle352
      @BlackEagle352 9 месяцев назад

      It takes efforts to make it happen.

    • @SE-fq4gf
      @SE-fq4gf 9 месяцев назад +3

      I, too, think every game should have an unlocked fps option when they launch. It makes it so much easier for future hardware and emulators to take advantage and run the games better.

  • @DrGonzo-vq2zi
    @DrGonzo-vq2zi 9 месяцев назад +6

    These are some of my favorite games and its such a bummer that there seems to be no chance of any official 60fps support for these.

  • @RafaPai84
    @RafaPai84 9 месяцев назад +4

    I remember Digital Foundry criticizing games with unlocked frame rate back in the day, even when it was only a option. Now it's all we wanted every game had, right?!

  • @NRobbi42
    @NRobbi42 9 месяцев назад +46

    Still can't belive the RDR2 next-gen update got canceled because the god-awful GTA Trilogy didn't sell. Rockstar is run by skinwalkers.
    Same goes for Rocksteady come to think of it

    • @ALph4cro
      @ALph4cro 9 месяцев назад +11

      Exactly why I have pretty much no hype for GTA VI.
      The way they handled the previous titles made me lose respect in them.
      They redeemed themselves with RDR2, but then continued to shit onto their fans, and even RDR2 fans alike.

    • @hpickettz34
      @hpickettz34 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@ALph4crooh stfu, you still gonna buy it😂

    • @marcelosoares7148
      @marcelosoares7148 9 месяцев назад +1

      GTA Trilogy didn't sell badly though, T2 CEO himself stated it surpassed the expectations.

    • @valleypanda
      @valleypanda 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@hpickettz34you already know he is 😂

    • @ALph4cro
      @ALph4cro 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@hpickettz34 No, I ain't. I didn't buy GTA V, either. I just got GTA IV Complete Edition not too long ago. I didn't even buy RDR2, it was gifted to me. Some people can control themselves and stick to their opinions.

  • @R3endevous
    @R3endevous 9 месяцев назад +3

    Apprecieate Richard for doing a deep dive into this topic and tests. And illussion for creating these patches.

  • @tyo101
    @tyo101 9 месяцев назад +3

    This was quote-unquote "a great video," thanks to Rich and Illusion.

  • @jda8176
    @jda8176 9 месяцев назад +7

    It's goddamn Greek tragedy we never got RDR2 in 60pfs on PS5!

  • @BoomBoomBrucey
    @BoomBoomBrucey 9 месяцев назад +7

    It's criminal Rockstar have abandoned RDR2 on PlayStation

  • @DJZeeJay
    @DJZeeJay 9 месяцев назад +3

    Man I wish they would release Driveclub for PC. That game still looks phenomenal.

  • @ombremad6951
    @ombremad6951 9 месяцев назад +12

    Seeing RDR2 running so smoothly makes me genuinely sad that Rockstar just ditched one of the best-selling games of all time without as little as an official 60fps patch for Xbox Series and PS5.

    • @cctv2500
      @cctv2500 9 месяцев назад

      RDR2 isn't Rockstars best selling game kid.

    • @cctv2500
      @cctv2500 9 месяцев назад

      @@ombremad6951 GTA 5 is their best selling game of all time, there is nothing to argue about.

    • @cctv2500
      @cctv2500 9 месяцев назад

      @@ombremad6951 Don't get mad kid, it's simply the truth. I know that you've got many things to learn but it'll eventually come to you aswell :)

    • @zingerstacker22
      @zingerstacker22 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@cctv2500 He said ONE of the best selling games not THE best selling games

    • @cctv2500
      @cctv2500 9 месяцев назад

      @@zingerstacker22 You just embarrassed yourself with your own sentence, well done man. The other kid deleted his own comments cause he knew that I was right and he was wrong lmao

  • @holdmusic_
    @holdmusic_ 9 месяцев назад +8

    Rockstar's inaction when it comes to RDR2 is absolutely infuriating

    • @bluwolf9357
      @bluwolf9357 9 месяцев назад

      They want to sell you the game again for €70 😂😂😂😂

  • @senorsnipey1595
    @senorsnipey1595 9 месяцев назад +3

    Driveclub at 60fps is amazing. What a wonderful game! Wish this was all a reality!

  • @azazelleblack
    @azazelleblack 9 месяцев назад +2

    Re: the RDR2 "where is the bottleneck" discussion-going by pure single-threaded system benchmarks (performed by me on my own hardware), Zen 2 at ~3.5 GHz is around 7.5 times faster than Jaguar at ~2 GHz on a single thread. 7.5 times! 750% the performance! If a game were suffering a CPU bottleneck of any kind on the PS5, it would be utterly unplayable on the PS4 or PS4 Pro.

  • @ColonelSternlove
    @ColonelSternlove 9 месяцев назад +11

    Drive Club still put today’s games to shame when it comes to fidelity (especially Rain/wet)

    • @rephlax
      @rephlax 9 месяцев назад +2

      It's a joke without the rain effects

    • @hpickettz34
      @hpickettz34 9 месяцев назад +2

      The rain effects was overrated and unrealistic.

    • @ColonelSternlove
      @ColonelSternlove 9 месяцев назад

      @@hpickettz34If you say so…

    • @WH250398
      @WH250398 9 месяцев назад +1

      I disagree with the two grumpy dudes above. Still looks excellent, and the rain effects are unmatched. Especially the POV of the windshieldwipers.

    • @ColonelSternlove
      @ColonelSternlove 9 месяцев назад

      @@WH250398 Exactly. Why the fuck would Digital Foundry even bother with this title if it wasn’t a demanding, technical showcase?

  • @adamsmith9410
    @adamsmith9410 9 месяцев назад +2

    This is one of my favorite DF videos. A great game indeed.

  • @kas2k4
    @kas2k4 9 месяцев назад +3

    At this point, the closest we’re going to get to Driveclub remaster is through PS4 emulation on PC. Can’t wait to run that game with an unlocked frame rate in 4K with auto HDR enabled

  • @MrRonski
    @MrRonski 9 месяцев назад +10

    This is why every single game should have unlocked frame rate option even if the current console can't reach 60fps or 120fps.
    But it seems that greediness and ignorance have consumed the developers.

  • @Dorraj
    @Dorraj 9 месяцев назад +3

    Bloodborne, Last Guardian, and Gravity Rush 2, these games DESPERATELY need PS5 patches to run at 60fps.

  • @not.an.operator
    @not.an.operator 9 месяцев назад +2

    FPS boost was the best thing to come out of this generation. Prey literally became a whole new game. Wish they would FPS boost Red Dead Redemption 1

    • @lordspalse0062
      @lordspalse0062 9 месяцев назад

      They already remastered it for the ps4 and unlocked the framerate on ps5 for a measly 50 dollars.

    • @not.an.operator
      @not.an.operator 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@lordspalse0062 haha I know right? I am on Series X tho and would love the fps boost method since it already runs at 4k

  • @gogreengameon2146
    @gogreengameon2146 9 месяцев назад +7

    As a console user my whole life, I gotta say, I'm starting to see how crap we have it in more ways than one (and even more so as a VR user). The UEVR mod has finally tempted me to build my own PC come the next generation, but I should have switched ages ago.

    • @jairesemccoy9779
      @jairesemccoy9779 9 месяцев назад

      Pc aren't portable though. I like having my console and having my monitor. I take it on the go. Pc isn't as simple. But I'm tempted. I haven't even touched certain games due to them being 30. Sorry, Batman. Pc just cost, but it's a dream. Cyberpunk at 120 fps with path tracing.
      But these companies would rather remake it and sell, then to go in themselves. Dumb business moves.

    • @paulsegrue5133
      @paulsegrue5133 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@jairesemccoy9779 Never heard of a laptop or compact PC"s which are getting really popular. Also current gen consoles are quite large really.

    • @rizzo-films
      @rizzo-films 9 месяцев назад

      @@jairesemccoy9779yeah I wouldn't call my PS5 or Xbox SX portable, but I agree that they're more streamlined and plug-and-play. They're almost as big as a compact PC case. But they are cheaper than gaming PC'S, don't need all the research that goes into a custom build or the premium that comes with pre-built gaming rigs. Big big reasons why people choose consoles over PC's. Plus, I work on my computer all damned day for work (started work yesterday at 9am, finished at 2:30am next day), no way in hell I'll sit at this desk for fun. Living room / console setup it is! Plus it's hard to find room for a PC or laptop on your average tv stand, so it's not really a living room solution either.

  • @Dan1el7493
    @Dan1el7493 9 месяцев назад +6

    Why are we forgetting that rdr2 next gen was leaked in the Microsoft trial?? and It was supposed to launch months ago, maybe it has been canceled or delayed

  • @MarcoGam3r
    @MarcoGam3r 9 месяцев назад +4

    It would be very interesting to revisit this unofficial patches once the PS5 Pro releases (if the rumors about it's existence are true).

  • @Gansolino
    @Gansolino 9 месяцев назад +1

    Seeing Driveclub running at 60 fps is really awesome. But I feel so bad that we won't have a Driveclub 2 game. Driveclub was one of the best games I played on my Ps4. Still have my physical copy, and still playing it!

  • @paul1979uk2000
    @paul1979uk2000 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is what I love about the PC, you're not at the mercy of Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo to get these things done or the developers to patch the game up to run better on newer hardware, games being designed to scale automatically do that, and if there are things games don't do, there's a modding community for that, consoles could benefit from that, but most won't because you need an unlocked console which very few consoles gamers will have.
    It's also what I love about the Steam Deck, it blurs the line from PC openness and console ease of use, all Valve needs to do is the same thing for the home PC/hybrid console market and I probably would never buy another traditional console again, or better yet, with the Steam Deck 2 when that's released, make sure it's got external dgpu support on a dock, that would allow a lot of the same benefits of higher end PC gaming whiles not having to buy a PC and portable device, being that's it's already shown that external gpu's perform really well on these portable devices and for a lot of us, that would mean we could just buy a Deck 2 without even bothering with a PC gaming rig on the big screen.
    There is one way Microsoft and Sony could solve much of this issue, make it mandatory that games have an upscaling option, which most games already do and an unlocked frame rate option to 60 and even 120fps.
    Doing that, it would mean Sony, Microsoft or the developers wouldn't need to do any work, it would scale to the highest resolution of the upscale and frame rate just by throwing more hardware power at it, and honestly, I'm surprised more of this wasn't done when the PS4 Pro and the mid-gen Xbox was released, without that, you're at the mercy of the publishers, which most don't care about their games once it's gone past its shelf life.

  • @ReachTea
    @ReachTea 9 месяцев назад +12

    I feel like it comes a point where the actual art is degraded because of the 30FPS frame limit, a lot more things are visually more noticeable at 60FPS

    • @kimberkan
      @kimberkan 9 месяцев назад +2

      yes agreed, red dead on pc on medium settings feels like it looks better only because you can actually see the world around you

    • @VerminSupremeFanPage
      @VerminSupremeFanPage 9 месяцев назад

      films play at 24 fps and those look fine

    • @paulsegrue5133
      @paulsegrue5133 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​​​​​​@@VerminSupremeFanPageThere is pretty bad judder on 24fps content on modern TV's on fast camera movements. That is why modern TV's have frame interpolation ie motion smoothing options, fake frames to smooth out 24fps motion judder.

    • @VerminSupremeFanPage
      @VerminSupremeFanPage 9 месяцев назад

      @@paulsegrue5133 that bad judder is caused by the panels on the tv being 60 fps, not the frame rate of the film being 24 fps. Old films will look fine 120hz panels or any panel that’s evenly divisible by 24

    • @paulsegrue5133
      @paulsegrue5133 9 месяцев назад

      ​​​@@VerminSupremeFanPageWhich is not true, there is judder on my LG 120hz OLED with 24fps movies and I am sensitive to it. I have to adjust motion smoothing to get rid of it but not enough to look unnatural. Yes you can get artifacts but I would rather that than judder. Also motion blur is an issue with 24fps content. I will also point out that even films in the cinema have judder, watching a film at the IMAX recently it was very noticeable.

  • @Nigel222
    @Nigel222 9 месяцев назад +3

    Arkham Knight was so good. Its a shame they never made another Arkham game.

  • @mayhemsamiegameplay
    @mayhemsamiegameplay 9 месяцев назад +1

    Stuff like this, which we will never get to see in real life!! Thanks for this DF!!!

  • @ZeroCool80
    @ZeroCool80 9 месяцев назад +3

    I would love if Sony could do something about this. I'd love to play Driveclub and RDR2 again on my PS5 at 60fps. Maybe everybody could start a petition to Sony to do this? I doubt it, but here's hoping they watch and hear about this.

    • @edwardadrian5173
      @edwardadrian5173 9 месяцев назад +1

      Sony just care about woke games by Naughty, Guerilla, Santa Monica and Insomnia.

  • @МухаммедАли-б7д
    @МухаммедАли-б7д 9 месяцев назад +1

    God bless you, Digital Foundry! ❤️ What a nice video! 👍👍

  • @mononoke721
    @mononoke721 9 месяцев назад +6

    Sony have definitely been resting on their laurels when it comes to updating more last-gen games on the PS5 - I get it involves work on either their end or a publisher/developer's part, but it's a true crime frankly that the likes of RDRII, Bloodborne or Shadow of the Colossus Remastered remain stuck in 30FPS. Maybe more videos like this, and the modders that make it a reality, could encourage them to take action, however unlikely.

  • @ChevroletEpica
    @ChevroletEpica 9 месяцев назад

    Video's like these make you never regret subscribing to this brilliant channel. Mentioning driveclub is always a welcome for me.

  • @liquidsnake.7008
    @liquidsnake.7008 9 месяцев назад +4

    Arkham knight being stuck as a ps4 game in 1080p with high use of film grain, chromatic aberration and terrible anti aliasing are all signs that we desperately need a remaster to be able to play it on ps5 in 4k 60fps, and to be able to toggle off all those mentioned terrible graphic settings.

  • @mastercharlie8773
    @mastercharlie8773 9 месяцев назад +1

    Not gon lie, my favorite grandpa on internet, most of these grandpa knows other stuffs, this grandpa is awesome with these modern techs, I'm 21 and he's knows more tech than I do, keep entertaining👍

  • @firestorm517
    @firestorm517 9 месяцев назад +3

    I wish Sony would add a Boost style update to PS5 to make this possible. I feel like it cant be that hard for it to have an option to intercept the system call for the vsync and have it unlocked.

  • @WhiteWolfTechGaming
    @WhiteWolfTechGaming 9 месяцев назад +2

    Interestingly enough, RDR2 is at a solid, rock steady 60fps without any stuttering (at least for what's shown) and this is from an unofficial patch/hack. This is even better than the PC version which still has terrible stuttering even with the async set to "true" and all other settings changed in-game while playing on a mid-high end PC.

  • @rokkudayo
    @rokkudayo 9 месяцев назад +4

    Gravity Rush is so beautiful. If only Sony kept making creative stuff like this instead of more over-the-shoulder stuff.

  • @aks19880
    @aks19880 9 месяцев назад +2

    PS4 Games that need to have 60 fps on PS5:
    Mafia series
    Assassin's creed before Origins
    Arkham series
    RDR2
    The Quarry
    Far Cry 3 and 4
    Watch Dogs 1 and 2
    Kingdom Come Deliverance

  • @TechGamesAU
    @TechGamesAU 9 месяцев назад +2

    It’s insane to me the crash bandicoot games only released at 30fps. Not only are they very basic graphically, they’re also fast paced games that should be 60fps.

  • @firisrozley5768
    @firisrozley5768 9 месяцев назад +1

    I remembered playing JC3 on PS4 with frame rates lower than 30 fps & it crashed a few times yet I finished it. I would love to see all (not just selected ones) PS4 games have framerate boosts officially on PS5 but seems like not all game developers are dedicated enough to give those an update. Thank goodness with the modded PS5. Let's hope that if they successfully hack the soon-to-be released PS5 Pro, then we should have a smooth sailing experience playing PS4 games (including the Last Guardian with 4K, stable 60 fps at 99.9% of the time) on PS5 Pro.

  • @NeuroTheory
    @NeuroTheory 9 месяцев назад +4

    Damn... If Drive Club was 60 on PS5, I'd pick it up. Looks unbelievably good for when it came out. Hell, I'd buy almost every game on the list again if they got a res and fps bump. Great video, though it makes me a bit sad that we can't have what's on display.

    • @isandlaurius
      @isandlaurius 9 месяцев назад

      You can only buy physical copy of Driveclub if you can find one. They are getting rare meaning more price in the future

  • @mmo5366
    @mmo5366 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great work Rich! We all knew this was the case, that PS5 would power through PS4 games if the frange rate limiters are removed, but it’s good to see it proven to be the case.

  • @-HungryBear-
    @-HungryBear- 9 месяцев назад +3

    I always wanted a Spyro reignited 60 fps patch

  • @theprfesssor
    @theprfesssor 9 месяцев назад +2

    Good thing is this will likely be a lesser issue for the future since most games now have a different modes on PS5 built in as well as dynamic resolution scaling
    Take Avatar a current gen title that uses the hardware "ps6" would very likely be able to pushe the dynamic resolutions far higher to max no patch needed then there's the 120 fps modes which would also be cleaned up without much issue getting closer to locked

  • @Phelaidar
    @Phelaidar 9 месяцев назад +10

    If a hacker can do it, there is no justification why Sony can't offer this.

    • @jgunner94
      @jgunner94 9 месяцев назад

      It’s probably for respect for the developers and they would need some polishing. People who didn’t make their game shouldn’t be able change things cause we feel it’s better, the developer should have control over these things at the end of the day.

    • @Phelaidar
      @Phelaidar 9 месяцев назад +1

      @jgooner8948 improving the framerate is in no way changing artistic quality, since most of them were already unlocked on Pc and the limit on pc was just for stability on weaker hardware.

  • @mohamedalnabhani1354
    @mohamedalnabhani1354 9 месяцев назад +2

    Crash Bandicoot N Sane Trilogy and Crash Team Racing Nitro Fuel next gen updates are just amazing!
    Hoping they’re released 🙏

  • @HappyDigressions
    @HappyDigressions 9 месяцев назад +3

    Maybe now that Jim Ryan is headed out the door Sony will actually care about supporting it's legacy titles via upgrades and patches.

  • @ClintBeastmode
    @ClintBeastmode 9 месяцев назад +1

    Driveclub was ahead of its time. Can't believe it's almost a decade old

  • @MarloLaw
    @MarloLaw 9 месяцев назад +4

    Batman looks so good in 60fps

  • @jackscalibur
    @jackscalibur 9 месяцев назад +2

    It still boggles my mind that Sony has been quiet on this front. That, and also their absence in true backwards compatibility for older consoles.