28:00 fight first vs fight first goes to active player, so charging unit still fights first. The whole fight first/last thing has been cleared up in an faq
Out of Phase rules/Stratagems can't be used when firing overwatch or abilities like Auspex Scan (i.e. strats that can be used when shooting in the shooting phase don't apply on overwatch). Check the Out of Phase rules section.
In case it hasn't been covered in previous comments, regarding close combat attacks with a weapon that has more than one profile (43:22), here are the relevant rules. Last sentence clearly states you can choose which profile to use for EACH attack. "If a model has more than one melee weapon, select which it will use before resolving any attacks. If a model has more than one melee weapon and can make several attacks, it can split them between these weapons however you wish - declare which attacks are being made with which weapons before any attacks are resolved. If the selected weapon has more than one profile that you must choose between, you must declare which profile is being used at the same time. Different attacks made with such a weapon can be made using different profiles if you wish."
28:30 You forgot about the fight first/fight last sequence - you always get fight first with a charging unit and in your turn fight first units fight starting with you, vice versa for fight normally units.
Remember that terminators are on a 2+ save. So, with storm shield they are, in effect, on a 1+. So, against and AP -1 weapon, they still need only a 2+ to block.
@@Rob-fn1kp You can’t have a +1 save *in fact*. But you can *in effect*. 1s always fail. But what having a +1 ‘in effect’ save means that you’d have to have an AP -2 weapon to cause a save to be worse than 2+.
@@Rob-fn1kp prety simple tbh. You still get a 2+ against -1ap. Just a bit naughtey that everyone bought blade guard but with this rule all the meta chasers atr gonna buy loads of terminators now!. Imo black templar swird bretheren are the biggest winners out of the new eule
As much as you are considering Bladeguard Vets they’re not going to outshine terminators now with Armor of Contempt (I know this is a pre-patch game) - I’d go with shooty terminators with chainfists for the nasty AP4 and the storm Bolter shots that you can drop in, fury of the first to hit on 2s re-rolling 1s near Captain - then you also have sanguinary guard too doing the same - and you get 20 shots out of a 5 man terminator squad S4 AP-1 and sanguinary guard being AP-2 during that turn… lots of chaffe clearing or incidental damage from small arms fire before the charge.
Note that "No Retreat" card says you can't leave Objective with a Normal Move or Advance. You can Charge off of the Objective and still score the card.
Mmm so I have a couple of questions, why run two Libby dreads? They're quite mediocre at the moment and tbh probably outclassed by the Sanguinary priest,bike chap,and bike chap master, also invictor warsuits seem weird to me, would a redemptor not be a better choice? Also as good as plasma ceptors are, they're incredibly expensive and you'd probably benefit more from taking more sang guard or a unit of Death Company.
no they have -1 to hit, +1 to wound on charge or getting charged, and fight last/no overwatch when they charge you. much better now. oh and advance and charge which makes it even better
43:30 usually you have to select the weapon mode before attacks are declared and only that weapon. Could be different, I don't know anything about aeldari.
:,( Finally got my ynnari and it was craftworlds/drukhari not my ynnarlequins. still love the videos as always. you should try quins with ynnari, it's very strong because they still have access to their stratagems
With the Ynarri’s Fight First ability, this should have cancelled out the Blood Angel’s charges, which would leave you both in Normal Activation. I don’t think that all Ynarri units solid have attacked first due to this, as attacks should have iterated between you. Is this correct?
I sold my Eldar Army years ago (except Karandras). Seeing this list, making a melee heavy army led by Karandras, Drazhar and the Vizarch (easily my 3 favorite Eldar models) seems like a fun idea. Before I buy the new codex, is Karandras, (and all Pheonix Lords, I guess), given use thru rules? I mean, his is points cost fair, and is he able to do much?
Really enjoying the battle report, but you are playing the fight first wrong the charger fights first then the ynnari fight and then it's alternate between chargers and fight first. your playing it as fights last
Really wish they’d drop the fights first, fights last nonsense, I have these abilities in most of my armies and I never use them! Slows games down for the majority of players and most people don’t get how they work properly! Such janky rules! Wish GW would just keep the game streamlined and simple! Charging units fight first with a 2 CP interrupt only, as it originally was! Or even multiple interrupt Strats! 2 CP for first, 3CP to use again!!! So you can try and nullify the enemies momentum on their turn and survive, but it’s going to cost you!!!
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28:00 fight first vs fight first goes to active player, so charging unit still fights first. The whole fight first/last thing has been cleared up in an faq
Yes true. Active player gets first strike then opposing one, and they alternate according to how many fight first units
Another mistake on thamount
@@jamesbond3783 so blow for blow for idk... what coul be 15 attacks? That would take a while
Out of Phase rules/Stratagems can't be used when firing overwatch or abilities like Auspex Scan (i.e. strats that can be used when shooting in the shooting phase don't apply on overwatch). Check the Out of Phase rules section.
I missed this rule entirely. Cheers for the heads up.
Thanks for choosing my suggestion for the Chaplain name!!! What an honour!!! 😁😁😁🙏
In case it hasn't been covered in previous comments, regarding close combat attacks with a weapon that has more than one profile (43:22), here are the relevant rules. Last sentence clearly states you can choose which profile to use for EACH attack.
"If a model has more than one melee weapon, select which it will use before resolving any attacks. If a model has more than one melee weapon and can make several attacks, it can split them between these weapons however you wish - declare which attacks are being made with which weapons before any attacks are resolved. If the selected weapon has more than one profile that you must choose between, you must declare which profile is being used at the same time. Different attacks made with such a weapon can be made using different profiles if you wish."
Those Eldar are gorgeous!
28:30 You forgot about the fight first/fight last sequence - you always get fight first with a charging unit and in your turn fight first units fight starting with you, vice versa for fight normally units.
You know what, I totally missed that myself. It could have affected the outcome of the game.
@@keldagar from Burley in Wharfedale?
Graceful avoidance gives the banshee unit a 4++ invul save and the wave serpent has a 5++ invul save and transhuman with the serpent shield
Remember that terminators are on a 2+ save. So, with storm shield they are, in effect, on a 1+. So, against and AP -1 weapon, they still need only a 2+ to block.
Surely not. You can’t have +1 save.... otherwise weapons with no AP will never ever damage them
@@Rob-fn1kp You can’t have a +1 save *in fact*. But you can *in effect*. 1s always fail. But what having a +1 ‘in effect’ save means that you’d have to have an AP -2 weapon to cause a save to be worse than 2+.
@@rogerturner1191 these rules are just screwed now
@@Rob-fn1kp prety simple tbh. You still get a 2+ against -1ap. Just a bit naughtey that everyone bought blade guard but with this rule all the meta chasers atr gonna buy loads of terminators now!. Imo black templar swird bretheren are the biggest winners out of the new eule
@@Rob-fn1kp it's been like this all edition
Half way through and hoping the blood angels win! My home faction!!
Blood Angels are back !!!
An absolute meme list on both sides. Blood Angels must be loving it post-Armour of Contempt.
Did you apply Armour of Contempt to all models? I’m sure you let the war suit die on a -4? He would have had a 6+? A couple of other times too?
Only thing I can think of is that they played the game before the faq?
I’m sure he used it earlier on in the battle? Must have forgotten about it. It really helps out marines.
Played before the faq👍
As much as you are considering Bladeguard Vets they’re not going to outshine terminators now with Armor of Contempt (I know this is a pre-patch game) - I’d go with shooty terminators with chainfists for the nasty AP4 and the storm Bolter shots that you can drop in, fury of the first to hit on 2s re-rolling 1s near Captain - then you also have sanguinary guard too doing the same - and you get 20 shots out of a 5 man terminator squad S4 AP-1 and sanguinary guard being AP-2 during that turn… lots of chaffe clearing or incidental damage from small arms fire before the charge.
great battle report, always love the unorthodox lists that come by and the boards are top notch as usual.
Intercessors need the "for every 5 models" you may include a heavy weapon option. Missile, melta, heavy plasma, etc...
No they are already a pain to deal with but I'm also bias because I don't like loyalist astartes so you are effectively right I just dont wanna see it
Nah, just Priamris Devestators would do
Great paint jobs all around. I wish the camera had better focus but it was still a good video.
1:38 My word, that does look awesome!
FOR SANGUINIUS YEA BOI 👀🥳🥳🥳
Loving the BA army list !!
Just caught this one - beautiful Ynnari force! Relay nice to see them on the table too 🙂
Also banshees are -1 to hit innately because if acrobatic.
Nice Ynnari, cool to see a mix of DE and CW
That's THE ynnari thing
Note that "No Retreat" card says you can't leave Objective with a Normal Move or Advance. You can Charge off of the Objective and still score the card.
Mmm so I have a couple of questions, why run two Libby dreads? They're quite mediocre at the moment and tbh probably outclassed by the Sanguinary priest,bike chap,and bike chap master, also invictor warsuits seem weird to me, would a redemptor not be a better choice? Also as good as plasma ceptors are, they're incredibly expensive and you'd probably benefit more from taking more sang guard or a unit of Death Company.
Don't the banshee get +3 to charge and ignore terrain. Fight last is different, it means you Fight last no matter what. Pointy ears for life
The +3 to charge was removed, they do have -1 to hit in general and +1 to wound on the charge now however.
no they have -1 to hit, +1 to wound on charge or getting charged, and fight last/no overwatch when they charge you. much better now. oh and advance and charge which makes it even better
43:30 usually you have to select the weapon mode before attacks are declared and only that weapon. Could be different, I don't know anything about aeldari.
:,( Finally got my ynnari and it was craftworlds/drukhari not my ynnarlequins. still love the videos as always. you should try quins with ynnari, it's very strong because they still have access to their stratagems
For Baal and Terra!
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Hi guys new ynnari player do they get battle focus now ? Thanks
I just got to the one 1:50 min mark, and the thought just occurred to me. Did this game take place before the balance data sheet?
With the Ynarri’s Fight First ability, this should have cancelled out the Blood Angel’s charges, which would leave you both in Normal Activation. I don’t think that all Ynarri units solid have attacked first due to this, as attacks should have iterated between you. Is this correct?
I sold my Eldar Army years ago (except Karandras). Seeing this list, making a melee heavy army led by Karandras, Drazhar and the Vizarch (easily my 3 favorite Eldar models) seems like a fun idea. Before I buy the new codex, is Karandras, (and all Pheonix Lords, I guess), given use thru rules? I mean, his is points cost fair, and is he able to do much?
No phoenix lords or drazhar available in Ynarri lists
@@JonnYTM8 Well, there goes that idea... Still might pick up Drazhar and the Vizarch to paint sometime, but no full army...
The Vizarch is one of the nicest models in the Eldar range IMHO... Such a cool pose and some really beautiful details on the model
Ynnari armies are so cool.
Shame it wasn't using the balance update for Armour of Contempt.
Yeah boiiiiiii
I don't think you can use a Strands of Fate dice on a Deny test. Doesn't it just say Psychic Test?
Great work. Keep it up 👍
Charger also has fight first. Dread should have gone first. Good job it was onlyva war walker lol
Go Eldar!
No armor of contempt?
Played before faq
Shame on you Kyle Death Korps players are the most loyal to the Imperium.
No Phantasm on that loss of Turn 1 coin flip? Tsk tsk…
1:51:50 😀😛😛
word of phoenix effects infantry keyword not troops
Really enjoying the battle report, but you are playing the fight first wrong the charger fights first then the ynnari fight and then it's alternate between chargers and fight first.
your playing it as fights last
I hope BA get a win this time, they always get wrecked on your channel
Was just cringed to death by a Warpath commercial, hard to watch the batrep after that😅
Really wish they’d drop the fights first, fights last nonsense, I have these abilities in most of my armies and I never use them! Slows games down for the majority of players and most people don’t get how they work properly! Such janky rules! Wish GW would just keep the game streamlined and simple! Charging units fight first with a 2 CP interrupt only, as it originally was!
Or even multiple interrupt Strats!
2 CP for first, 3CP to use again!!! So you can try and nullify the enemies momentum on their turn and survive, but it’s going to cost you!!!
I cant afford to be playing the game anymore. So I'm removing all of the links on RUclips Instagram and Facebook. If I cant afford to play the game I'm not spending hours watching videos about it. Its their fault. I've struggled and sacrificed to keep this passion but I'm sorry enough is enough.