Just picked up a Vectra 2008 1.8 VVT SRI for £900, first time back in a petrol car from being in diesel BMW's for 10+ years...utter bargain these biggish petrol engines, love it.
These seem to be getting rarer now so great to see a review. There was a certain chunky practicality to these cars. They always felt quite spacious. The only downside from memory was that the window height was quite high so it felt a little claustrophobic. It was a car that actually looked quite good in black, especially the SRi model. Yes I'd think a 3.2V6 would be a lot of fun (but probably a bit understeery torque steery) and I think the Signum got that engine as well. Would love to see you review a Signum.
Yes, I think a lot of cars were starting to get quite high beltlines at this stage, and the Astra J in 2009 was higher still. They certainly are spacious, aren't they? I would like to do a Signum as well, they are basically the same car and both did indeed come with the 3.2 V6. My 45 V6 also is quite prone to understeer due to the weight of the engine, as you can imagine!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I found that "grown up" cars were often cheaper to insure as a young driver when I was looking 6-7 years ago despite the larger engines. Lots of young drivers go for small hatchbacks with a 1.2 or 1.4, so insurers get a lot of claims on them from that age group.
One of my brothers loves Vauxhall’s. He has signum at the moment and loves it. He had the vecta Sri before this shape, from new. Thanks for a good video
There are people who love Vauxhalls, they offer phenomenal secondhand value due to colossal depreciation, and are often very well made for their modest prices. I would like to try a Signum too!
Are Sigma’s good cars? I thinking about buying one for a cheap runaround, but just need some info if the Sigmas are any good as they do look a nice car👍
I just bought a 1.8 with some nice extra kit. Power seats, power rear view mirror, rain sensor. I'm really impressed with the 1.8, it's got decent low end torque. It drives like new, it's quiet and comfortable. Almost completely rust-free. Overall, hell of a bargain at €1400.
Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting! Yes, the later 1.8s have a bit more power. The Vectras are absolute bargains for not a lot of money.
My second car was a 2003 vectra 2.2 dti elegance with 130k miles, i had it for 5 years, not a single thing went wrong other than the EGR. I loved that car so much and never understood all the hate the model got! All round it was a great car, pulled well, comfy, started first time every time
Thank you very much indeed for watching! I think it is entirely to do with the badge, the depreciation and the reputation of the Vectra at the time. All of those factors sort of feed into each other, don't they?
Iv got a 2008 sri with pipercross panel filter and a stage one remap, 150 bhp and 138 flat out, always use vpower as she likes it. I like the car a lot. Spent a fortune on maintenance over the two years that Iv owned her but only cost me £2450 to buy.
Thank you for watching! Yes, my old Astra H Twintop with the 1.8 Family I engine also had a map to 150 bhp. It wasn't as fast as your Vectra, though. These cars are still stupidly cheap, aren't they?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yes a 2008 model is probably only worth £1500 now.? I won’t sell mine for a while as Iv invested too much money In the car. She’s not fast , too much weight and not enough power. Nearly bought an sri turbo with the vx2 kit but didn’t have the money for the insurance. Shame as with a stage 1 map you would have 200 bhp. Easy 7.5 to 60 and 145 mph.
@@kristianspencer1978 , yes, the SRi Turbos are quite rare. Vectras continue to have low secondhand values at the moment, so worth hanging onto yours, I should think. The insurance would have been a killer with that remap, no doubt!
I remember when Mr. HubNut owned a 1999 Vectra if I remember correctly, to which I liked the exterior styling, but I seem to like this a bit more! Headlamp cluster reminds me of a Ford Transit Connect of the same era, and I do like the rear taillamp cluster. Also outside rear view mirrors look big, although I also agree ultrasonic parking sensors are a must, or an aftermarket rear view camera for safety. I also agree that controls are from Opel; stalks, switches, etc., so very GM Europe. Mr. HubNut's LS Vectra had the 2.2 litre Ecotec 4, of which was common throughout GM global platforms including here in the US. A compromise between power and economy. And yes, nothing sounds better than a V6! If driven other than a race car driver, you can get reasonable fuel mileage although nothing like a four cylinder. I totally agree, a very good car for not a lot of money IF you get a well looked after vehicle AND keep up with scheduled maintenance. Brilliant review Joseph! And check out my thumbnail; if you can, check out the license plate. This is the vehicle I have mentioned time and again, haunting my town from time to time!
@@ianoconnell8678 You could be right, I thought it was a 1999. I believe it was sold again, so what Joseph has stated makes this vehicle very practical for whoever owns a Vectra.
Definitely a facelift 2.2 Elite with heated leather. A genuinely luxurious car that is surprisingly overlooked. Of course my colleague had an ex Traffic Police 2006 VXR in White. The police VXRs were tuned to 300 bhp, which is a proper muscle car. He says that it can change lanes on a dual carriageway on a wet day with enthusiastic acceleration. Sounded amazing too. The Vectra C is a very good car indeed.
These are stupidly cheap cars even now with the increase in secondhand car prices. If you can find a good one, they do make a lot of sense. I think my friend still has this one.
Thanks for this video! Another car also found in New Zealand but a rare sight, courtesy of Holden under-promoting the things. Ironically Holden toyed with the idea of making a middle sized turbo 4WD sports sedan with the styling of this car, called a Torana (In homage to the legendary 70s muscle cars.) to compete with the Altezza but it never went past the prototype stage.
Yes, Holden probably weren't too bothered by this stage. Certainly a lot of other cars were based on this platform, so a new Torana wouldn't necessarily have been a bad idea.
12 out of 10 for Anticipation at the Zebra with the pram. No you do not look like a Taxi Driver, what you are is a highly intelligent motorist who is the owner of a spacious family car which is reliable, drives well, lasts well and does everything that a prestige mark will do but costs almost nothing to own. Also Richard Hammond I think drove the V6 on Men and Motors in 2002 or 2003 and he loved it. I have a lot of respect for Jeremy Clarkson, however, in relation to the Vauxhall Vectra we will equate Jeremy to a diesel.......
We aim to please sir! I do like very good value cars. I don't know if my driving on the next No Budget Review will be quite as good, sadly.... Mr Clarkson's review shall not be discussed further on this channel!
We've had a 2009 Zafira 1.6 Design for 6 years now, still only got 47k miles on it as only used as second car to our Nissan Leaf, but has never let us down and cheap to run.
Yes, we had an Astra H Twintop for a while, which is virtually the same car, really. If you don't have the plastic thermostat housing fail and you change the cambelt regularly, these can be pretty reliable and inexpensive to run. I find a Zafira B very easy to recommend indeed!
Vauxhall’s are probably the most underrated cars on the road. Yes their a tad boring but well built, reliable, but good quality solid cars. You can pick up and real good quality Vauxhall insignia for peanuts, and they don’t suffer with rust either which is a big bonus.
@@matty6848 , I have sourced a number of Vauxhalls for clients who are after good value secondhand cars, and they tend to do the job pretty well. The post 2005 models don't tend to suffer much from rust as you say.
I really like the Vectra C, especially the liftback model. Here in Holland the liftback was available in different spec models (base, elegance etc), but unfortunately always in GTS trim. So you always get big wheels and dark rear lights etc. I know most people prefer that but imo it looks a bit tacky when they get on age. I like 'm more clean and subtle looking, it's a Vectra afterall.
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching! Yes, lots of trim levels available on the saloon, hatchback and estate Vectra C, depending on the market, really. Laurence was right to fit some nice alloy wheels to this one, I think, it is a good subtle improvement. I know about the ones with the blacked out wheels and the smoked rear lights, perhaps not quite as classy.
Just picked up a nice black 1.8vvt SRI, my second one, I have just had the cambelt/water pump replaced along with air conditioning condenser. Lovely car and I plan on keeping it for quite a while.
Vectra c 1.8 sri bought with 50k on 8yrz later 106k everything works Pulls well , great car for anyone 6ft or above. Spacious and i put a colour sat nav in from the vectra elite - great workhorse no rust doesnt use oil quiet engine
Yes, if you find one with a decent engine in it, and you look after it, these can be really good. Lots and lots of room inside and still really cost-effective.
Got my first Vectra 2008 1.8 VVT SRI Petrol, came from a Octavia 2006 1.9 Diesel! Tbh I do prefer the Vectra! Doesn’t feel as quick but I think it’s very comfortable and just feel like cruising in it.
That's interesting that you prefer the Vectra! We don't talk about diesels on this channel, as you may have seen, so we do like the fact that it is preferable. They are comfortable, but the engine will not have as much torque as the one in Skoda, hence probably why it feels a bit sluggish, in spite of 180 bhp.
If you wanted to know about diesels as Mr Lloyd said there was the 1.9 CDTi in the pre facelift and facelift and in pre facelift models there was a 2.0 DTi and 2.2 DTi. They both had less power than the 1.9 CDTi but had more torque but the DTi diesels were discontinued when they facelifted the car and then in the facelift they launched the 3.0 CDTi which is a big engine for a car like this but it has a lot of power and torque and gives decent fuel efficiency
It does the job, "adequate" is how what car? described it in 2002 when it was released. I too loved the signum and the vel satis, but those models were deleted after a few years due to poor sales. As stated the wheels are from a higher spec vauxhall, btw is this one ulez compliant? as i dont think Mr Lawrence will want to pay £15 after hanger lane on the A40 from uxbridge rd, hayes!!
Yes sir, this is an Ultra Low Emission Zone compliant car! This was one of the criteria which Laurence and I discussed when we did the search, which is great. That is right, the Signum and Vel Satis were similar in concept, but buyers still stayed away!
Yes, they certainly were! This is a bit different, but as far as I am aware, my friend still has it, and it is still going. I would prefer a nice petrol V6, though.
As someone with a Vectra C 3.2l as a first car, I cannot recommend that model as a real budget car. It's expensive to have (road tax, insurance) and drinks a lot of petrol. Engine parts can be costly, mine needed a new clutch and flywheel + smaller parts (because of those, got the car for free). Also, the intake plenum is huge due to VRIS (Variable Resonance Induction System), so you need to take it off to do basic things like spark plugs and ignition coils (coil-on-plugs). But if you want to have a really nice reliable 2000s car that packs a punch even when loaded full of people and cargo, go ahead and get one incase you have a chance. Just make sure you change your oil often enough, especially on a high-mileage one. Understeer isn't concern when driving within speedlimit and good tyres. Stiffer aftermarket suspension and/or coilovers are also an option to improve handling. At least my unit hasn't suffered from torque steering, but your mileage may wary.
The 3.2 V6 is very different from this earlier 1.8, I imagine. Probably much, much slower and less complicated. Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
I've had 3 Vectra C's and I cant fault any of them. 2 were written off (Not my Fault). One of which I believe save my life! Bloody strong cars the Vectra! And sold one when I moved abroad. Now back in the UK I bought my old Vectra Back. Its a 3.0 V6 CDTI full exterior pack 2, basically a VXR with a Diesel. Plenty quick enough to keep up with the Germans. You don't talk about diesels on your channel......Your missing out!
Well, I actually have a whole video on my channel discussing why we don't talk about diesels on the channel, but we will set that aside for now... Yes, I am aware of the 3.0 V6 CDTI, I understand that it is an impressive engine if we are discussing the "forbidden fuel". The Vectra Cs must have been some of the strongest cars of their time, lots of safety features and other equipment for the money.
@@worthlessdollar1 Couldn't agree more! We are all going to be nailed for having any type of fossil fuelled vehicle sooner or later. I'm shagged either way as My other car is a 6.0 Monaro. LOL
Nice little review sir, I believe if memory serves (and its cloudy from time to time) there were 2 versions of the 121hp 1.8 16v fitted (black engine cover and silver engine cover) as mine is a silver one and doesn't use the water pump as timing belt tensioner it actually uses a separate tensioner but I can't remember if that was a technical update, the post 2005 1.8 differs in that it has a vvti valve train another common problem aside from the switch gear being on the fragile side is the springs they do like to snap suspension springs but all in all pretty solid reliable cars
Yes, the 1.8 in the facelifted car develops more power and has variable valve timing, although that does mean there is more to go wrong. The swirl flaps on my Astra H Twintop engine had been deleted, which I think is a popular modification. The Family I engine has been around for absolutely ages (mid-1980s), and had so many variants that I find it hard to keep track of it. You are probably right about the two different ones with the different tensioners. I would have to start looking at engine codes to be able to go into more detail. Those one touch stalks, which I also remember from my Astra H, are a bit of a nightmare, aren't they? Mind you, you do get used to them...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting having test driven a face-lift the extra hp is definitely a welcome addition although if a little underpowered the family 1 can propel the vectra along at a fair progression if you employ a spirited driving style by no means are you going to set the road alright but if you use the full length of the rev range it does OK for itself, and they are very much duct tape and cable engineering as far as home maintenance is concerned, yeah the soft touch can be annoying until you take the time to find out how they actually work then their quite simple problem is a lot of people treat them like conventional stalks then get frustrated when they don't do what they want them to,
@@amosburton5227 , yes, the engine in my TwinTop was actually slightly modified, so it had a Toyo Sports four branch exhaust manifold, swirl flap delete and cat delete, along with a remap to around 150 bhp, so it made a great noise and was fast enough, although the TwinTops probably weigh the same as a Vectra C, so it wasn't blindingly fast, but it was fun. Definitely worth going for one of the later cars with a bit more power if you can! Mr Coleman (aka The Rubbish Mechanic) has a video on his channel servicing the TwinTop, and it is really, really easy to change the oil and filters on this Family I engine, as you say. I got used to the stalks, as I owned the Astra for a little while.
These are one of the last lot of cars that make viable rotters in my very humble opinion. I'd always hankered after a petrol estate as they are huge inside and laughably cheap.
Yes, there's something really appealing about them as an inexpensive daily car, isn't there? This 1.8 petrol is also Euro IV compliant, so should be fine in the Ultra Low Emission Zones, unlike the diesels. The estates are definitely huge!
I prefer this shape to the first gen, for some reason I just didn’t gel with it, never driven one but I do love the Calibra, that’s a car I’d like to drive again. *B
Oh, the Calibra! Haven't seen one of those in a very long time. I don't think that a Vectra C is a very emotional purchase, it tends to be a more rational one, which I think sums it up, really...
Yes and I think the gen insignia looks even worse. I think Vauxhall did such a good job on the MK1 insignia they shot themselves in the foot. How do you improve a car that already look a god?
@@matty6848 , the facelifted Insignia A in particular does look rather nice. I sourced a pre-facelift one for a client last year, and it was absolutely excellent.
I drove a couple of hired Vectra Cs - I can’t say I’m a fan of them. Although the styling is quite pleasing, the interior was odd, very plasticky, with irritating electronic column stalks which seem to have a mind of their own, and were an oddly unengaging car to drive. They’re probably a great bangernomics car, although having had experience of GM turbo-diesels in a couple of SAABs, they weren’t the most durable engines.
I don't think that these are the most exciting car in the world, with the possible exception of the V6 models and the VXRs, but they do appear at the moment to be the very definition of bangernomics: many are just one moderately priced repair away from being scrapped. Yes, we stayed away from the fuel which shall not be mentioned, which is definitely for the best. You are right, those one touch stalks are not my favourite, but you do get used to them eventually...
Not sure if it is sad or healthy (for the car market) that a great deal of these cars have been scrapped..not because of any rot issues (which use to be a car's premier death warrant) but because they have no street credibility, making them virtually worthless and a long term service replacement like a clutch seem like a great deal of money in comparison to the car's worth.An old Mondeo is usually structurally sound (compared to other old Fords) and people are prepared to spend money on the rubbery and brake pipe issues on the time/ labour intensive rear subframe and the very time/labour intensive clutch change.
That's right, a lot of these Vectra Cs are one moderately priced repair (clutch, cambelt, etc.) away from being scrapped due to chronic depreciation. It does mean that they are absolute bargains, but it is often cheaper to buy a different car than fix them. They aren't alone in this either. Is a clutch quite difficult to do on a Mark III Mondeo?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes at one time it was an epic job on any Mondeo, the subframe had to come out and then be re-aligned on installation etc ..and with certain models (diesel etc) having a DMF flywheel (often the cause of the problem not the clutch) the job cost could run well into 4 figures . However time has moved on and there are mobile operators such as .www.williamsmobileclutch.co.uk/ ..who have tamed the Mondeo clutch and will replace it in your driveway/garage for a more modest 3 figure sum.YT channel. ruclips.net/video/tpXz9a7n9Us/видео.html
@@Witheredgoogie , gosh, I know that a Volkswagen Group clutch with a dual mass flywheel of the same era is expensive to replace, but I didn't realise that a Mondeo was quite so bad. I imagine Mr Coleman probably has done a few of those in an ingenious way... He isn't a fan of dual mass flywheels, but they are useful for people who can't drive very well (like me).
@@lloydvehicleconsulting maybe so but Ian Royal thought that the Vectra B SRi 2.5 V6 was awesome. A chap in the next estate had a black one for years and his leaving for and returning from work were momentus occasions.
@@seancooke4127 , that engine is the same as in Mr Coleman's old Vauxhall Omega, and it is brilliant! I had a lovely time driving it back in February for Tweed Jacket Reviews. Fantastic noise!
You definitely get plenty of equipment for your money. Would have to be a a V6 auto with tan leather interior Or maybe VXR estate, just to be different.
Yes, they do seem like superb value at these really low prices, don't they? I would also like a V6 with a beige leather interior, but then, you already knew that, didn't you.....
Not sure why that would be. I have a 1.8 Design estate that had a pretty plush ride. Then I upgraded the springs/shocks with Eibach/Bilstein and the ride actually got better, but the handling is now just spot on, whereas it was a bit floaty before.
Yes, apologies, the later engines in the post-facelift Vectras were the ones with the plastic thermostat housing (like the one in my old Astra H). Definitely people on the Internet with a lot more Vauxhall expertise than me.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I had a 2004 vectra 1.8 bought it for £200 off a friend only expected to keep it for a bit while I sorted myself out but ended up going from 104k miles to 210k miles in the end it was a very reliable car only changed had to change one alternator.
@@mrkiplingman , that's an excellent price. I am pleasantly surprised just how many stories there are like yours of people who buy these cars at a bargain price, and then get vast amounts more use out of them than they ever imagined for much less outlay. Laurence absolutely loves his, and I completely understand why.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Still a very relevant video. These got a bit of a bad rap with the Dog and Lemon Guide here (Top Gear roasted this model too) but they seem quite solid and comparable to my Honda. The problem is that people loved them to bits literally, at least in your country, so it might be hard to find a Vectra in perfect condition, even in New Zealand.
@@alaricbragg7843 , yes, they were virtually valueless for a long time, as they suffered from such horrific depreciation. This is why finding a good one can be so hard.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Ironically it's Insignia replacement, while regarded most highly in the UK, is enduring depreciation in its Holden form. On the plus side that can theoretically mean a great car for a bargain price...
The vectra before this model was more popular than this newer model ( here in holland) . I know 5 different Families that bought the 1996 Vectra’s hatchbacks or saloons and they all drove and owned it for 10 to 16 years.! And how longer they had the car how more they loved it. And because they are real Opel vectra families most of them also choose this 2005 model with the plan to have it just as long. But this was nit the case. It had more technical problems and it was more complicated. So they had it much shorter. Now they all have Smaller astra’s because the children are out the house
You have seen the Vauxhall Omega review on Tweed Jacket Reviews, haven't you? I have driven a 1996 Vectra B and I found it very uncomfortable, sadly. They were not well received in this country at all, as you probably know.
No I didn’t knew that. I’m surprised. Because here all people that owned one still talks about it like they had an Bentley or something. And they had it so long because they where like we don’t need a new car. But later the vectra became old with much kilometers so before they had any problems they choose this newer vectra.
@@jdnrotterdam2150 , if you look up the old Top Gear episode from 1995 where Jeremy Clarkson tests the Vectra B, you will understand entirely why this car was not very well received in this country.
I’m just finished the little topgear film about the vectra. Clarkson. Didn’t said it was a bad car. It was just a boring car. But i think all cars from that class and from that time where a little.... just cars. Ford mondeo’s. Vectra’s .. toyota carina’s. Renault laguna’s Just standard normal from a to b practical cars. That’s why i liked the Sierra more than the mondeo.
@@maurocardoso3579 , I had to get the part at short notice as the car literally emptied its cooling system all over the driveway one day and as the plastic thermostat housing blew up (a common problem). I went down to GSF car parts and the thermostat housing alone was over £100. I got my local garage to do it for me, but it isn't a particularly easy job, and so the labour was about £200. I didn't have much of a choice at the time.
Yes, that's pretty much correct. The Insignia A replaced the Vectra C in 2008 and then it was itself replaced by the current Insignia B in 2017. Thank you for watching and commenting!
As much as I love vauxhall I'm sorry but this model I just don't like awfull styling the cavalier shape was far better . It's ok if you buy one of theses cheap run it in to the ground and bin it its a perfect throw away car.
Yes, chronic depreciation and low secondhand values mean that these are often bought as cheap runarounds now. I would certainly like to have a Cavalier on the channel! Thanks ever so much indeed for watching nevertheless.
We had a 1.8 poverty spec Signum, was a nice car to sit in with lots of kit but the engine was terrible, ridiculously underpowered for a car of that size. *And the stalks have a mind of their own
@@lloydvehicleconsulting It was a face-lift but an early 55 plate, still see it around here now. Its getting on well thanks, its getting driven now and has been getting attention to bring it back up to a better standard. Window motors soon. I hope the 45 is well.
@@elliotroles7502 , interesting that it is still around! Still got those annoying indicators, though. Glad to hear that your CityRover is improving! Yes, the 45 V6 is fine, it is going for an MOT at Mr Coleman's uncle's garage next month.
Having driven and owned a number of Vauxhalls myself, these are pretty good! The Vectra B seats, as Ian Seabrook frequently explained, are terribly hard, though.
Having covered the vast majority of the the 116k on mine I can honestly say that the seats are perfectly comfortable in them and improvement over the vectra b's seats they do take a bit of frequent adjustment to get them in the right place though
@@amosburton5227 , I once drove an early Vectra B as a courtesy car, and found the driving position terrible, very uncomfortable indeed, which was a fully justified common criticism. I didn't have the same problem in the Vectra C.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting in comparison the B was a much narrower car meaning the seats ended up somewhat restricted being a completely different platform the C has a much wider floor pan (as it was used for quite a few American cars) I've driven mine to various locations in the UK and found the comfort to be quite acceptable especially being of a slightly fuller figure than most
@@amosburton5227 The ones I've had are a Zafira A (2001) and an Astra H (2005). The Astra's seats were harder than the Zafira's and both were far more firm than the Fusion I drive now.
Just picked up a Vectra 2008 1.8 VVT SRI for £900, first time back in a petrol car from being in diesel BMW's for 10+ years...utter bargain these biggish petrol engines, love it.
Thanks for watching, Dan! Yes, as long as you watch for the things I mentioned on that engine, these Vectras can be an absolute bargain.
These seem to be getting rarer now so great to see a review. There was a certain chunky practicality to these cars. They always felt quite spacious. The only downside from memory was that the window height was quite high so it felt a little claustrophobic.
It was a car that actually looked quite good in black, especially the SRi model. Yes I'd think a 3.2V6 would be a lot of fun (but probably a bit understeery torque steery) and I think the Signum got that engine as well. Would love to see you review a Signum.
Yes, I think a lot of cars were starting to get quite high beltlines at this stage, and the Astra J in 2009 was higher still. They certainly are spacious, aren't they? I would like to do a Signum as well, they are basically the same car and both did indeed come with the 3.2 V6. My 45 V6 also is quite prone to understeer due to the weight of the engine, as you can imagine!
Will definitely be looking at one if these for my first car. Great review 👍🏿.
If it is a first car, then the insurance could be a bit expensive as the smallest engine is the 1.8
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I found that "grown up" cars were often cheaper to insure as a young driver when I was looking 6-7 years ago despite the larger engines. Lots of young drivers go for small hatchbacks with a 1.2 or 1.4, so insurers get a lot of claims on them from that age group.
@@SerenaBluee , yes, it's like my Rover 45 V6, which is very cheap to insure for some reason...
One of my brothers loves Vauxhall’s. He has signum at the moment and loves it. He had the vecta Sri before this shape, from new. Thanks for a good video
There are people who love Vauxhalls, they offer phenomenal secondhand value due to colossal depreciation, and are often very well made for their modest prices. I would like to try a Signum too!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting especially a high spec they come with stuff like fridges in the back
@@terrificspokesman7416 , that's right, sir!
Are Sigma’s good cars? I thinking about buying one for a cheap runaround, but just need some info if the Sigmas are any good as they do look a nice car👍
@@matty6848 , do you mean the old Mitsubishi Sigma? They haven't been around for an awfully long time.
I just bought a 1.8 with some nice extra kit. Power seats, power rear view mirror, rain sensor. I'm really impressed with the 1.8, it's got decent low end torque. It drives like new, it's quiet and comfortable. Almost completely rust-free. Overall, hell of a bargain at €1400.
Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting! Yes, the later 1.8s have a bit more power. The Vectras are absolute bargains for not a lot of money.
My second car was a 2003 vectra 2.2 dti elegance with 130k miles, i had it for 5 years, not a single thing went wrong other than the EGR. I loved that car so much and never understood all the hate the model got! All round it was a great car, pulled well, comfy, started first time every time
Thank you very much indeed for watching! I think it is entirely to do with the badge, the depreciation and the reputation of the Vectra at the time. All of those factors sort of feed into each other, don't they?
Iv got a 2008 sri with pipercross panel filter and a stage one remap, 150 bhp and 138 flat out, always use vpower as she likes it. I like the car a lot. Spent a fortune on maintenance over the two years that Iv owned her but only cost me £2450 to buy.
Thank you for watching! Yes, my old Astra H Twintop with the 1.8 Family I engine also had a map to 150 bhp. It wasn't as fast as your Vectra, though. These cars are still stupidly cheap, aren't they?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yes a 2008 model is probably only worth £1500 now.? I won’t sell mine for a while as Iv invested too much money In the car. She’s not fast , too much weight and not enough power. Nearly bought an sri turbo with the vx2 kit but didn’t have the money for the insurance. Shame as with a stage 1 map you would have 200 bhp. Easy 7.5 to 60 and 145 mph.
@@kristianspencer1978 , yes, the SRi Turbos are quite rare. Vectras continue to have low secondhand values at the moment, so worth hanging onto yours, I should think. The insurance would have been a killer with that remap, no doubt!
I remember when Mr. HubNut owned a 1999 Vectra if I remember correctly, to which I liked the exterior styling, but I seem to like this a bit more! Headlamp cluster reminds me of a Ford Transit Connect of the same era, and I do like the rear taillamp cluster. Also outside rear view mirrors look big, although I also agree ultrasonic parking sensors are a must, or an aftermarket rear view camera for safety.
I also agree that controls are from Opel; stalks, switches, etc., so very GM Europe.
Mr. HubNut's LS Vectra had the 2.2 litre Ecotec 4, of which was common throughout GM global platforms including here in the US. A compromise between power and economy. And yes, nothing sounds better than a V6! If driven other than a race car driver, you can get reasonable fuel mileage although nothing like a four cylinder.
I totally agree, a very good car for not a lot of money IF you get a well looked after vehicle AND keep up with scheduled maintenance.
Brilliant review Joseph! And check out my thumbnail; if you can, check out the license plate. This is the vehicle I have mentioned time and again, haunting my town from time to time!
HubNuts vectra was a 2000
@@ianoconnell8678 You could be right, I thought it was a 1999. I believe it was sold again, so what Joseph has stated makes this vehicle very practical for whoever owns a Vectra.
Yes, Ian Seabrook had a 2000 Vectra B 2.2 LS on an X plate.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thank you for the clarification, I appreciate it, and admit to my faulty memory. Brilliant review and video!
No problem at all, glad you enjoyed it! I think that this generation of Vectra was briefly sold in America under the Saturn brand...
Definitely a facelift 2.2 Elite with heated leather. A genuinely luxurious car that is surprisingly overlooked.
Of course my colleague had an ex Traffic Police 2006 VXR in White. The police VXRs were tuned to 300 bhp, which is a proper muscle car. He says that it can change lanes on a dual carriageway on a wet day with enthusiastic acceleration. Sounded amazing too.
The Vectra C is a very good car indeed.
These are stupidly cheap cars even now with the increase in secondhand car prices. If you can find a good one, they do make a lot of sense. I think my friend still has this one.
Thanks for this video! Another car also found in New Zealand but a rare sight, courtesy of Holden under-promoting the things. Ironically Holden toyed with the idea of making a middle sized turbo 4WD sports sedan with the styling of this car, called a Torana (In homage to the legendary 70s muscle cars.) to compete with the Altezza but it never went past the prototype stage.
Yes, Holden probably weren't too bothered by this stage. Certainly a lot of other cars were based on this platform, so a new Torana wouldn't necessarily have been a bad idea.
12 out of 10 for Anticipation at the Zebra with the pram. No you do not look like a Taxi Driver, what you are is a highly intelligent motorist who is the owner of a spacious family car which is reliable, drives well, lasts well and does everything that a prestige mark will do but costs almost nothing to own.
Also Richard Hammond I think drove the V6 on Men and Motors in 2002 or 2003 and he loved it. I have a lot of respect for Jeremy Clarkson, however, in relation to the Vauxhall Vectra we will equate Jeremy to a diesel.......
We aim to please sir! I do like very good value cars. I don't know if my driving on the next No Budget Review will be quite as good, sadly.... Mr Clarkson's review shall not be discussed further on this channel!
We've had a 2009 Zafira 1.6 Design for 6 years now, still only got 47k miles on it as only used as second car to our Nissan Leaf, but has never let us down and cheap to run.
Yes, we had an Astra H Twintop for a while, which is virtually the same car, really. If you don't have the plastic thermostat housing fail and you change the cambelt regularly, these can be pretty reliable and inexpensive to run. I find a Zafira B very easy to recommend indeed!
Vauxhall’s are probably the most underrated cars on the road. Yes their a tad boring but well built, reliable, but good quality solid cars. You can pick up and real good quality Vauxhall insignia for peanuts, and they don’t suffer with rust either which is a big bonus.
@@matty6848 , I have sourced a number of Vauxhalls for clients who are after good value secondhand cars, and they tend to do the job pretty well. The post 2005 models don't tend to suffer much from rust as you say.
I really like the Vectra C, especially the liftback model. Here in Holland the liftback was available in different spec models (base, elegance etc), but unfortunately always in GTS trim. So you always get big wheels and dark rear lights etc. I know most people prefer that but imo it looks a bit tacky when they get on age. I like 'm more clean and subtle looking, it's a Vectra afterall.
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching! Yes, lots of trim levels available on the saloon, hatchback and estate Vectra C, depending on the market, really. Laurence was right to fit some nice alloy wheels to this one, I think, it is a good subtle improvement. I know about the ones with the blacked out wheels and the smoked rear lights, perhaps not quite as classy.
Just picked up a nice black 1.8vvt SRI, my second one, I have just had the cambelt/water pump replaced along with air conditioning condenser. Lovely car and I plan on keeping it for quite a while.
They are quite good value, as long as you keep on top of that cambelt/water pump issue, then it should be fine. The SRi is a good specification.
Vectra c 1.8 sri bought with 50k on 8yrz later 106k everything works Pulls well , great car for anyone 6ft or above. Spacious and i put a colour sat nav in from the vectra elite - great workhorse no rust doesnt use oil quiet engine
Yes, if you find one with a decent engine in it, and you look after it, these can be really good. Lots and lots of room inside and still really cost-effective.
Got my first Vectra 2008 1.8 VVT SRI Petrol, came from a Octavia 2006 1.9 Diesel! Tbh I do prefer the Vectra! Doesn’t feel as quick but I think it’s very comfortable and just feel like cruising in it.
That's interesting that you prefer the Vectra! We don't talk about diesels on this channel, as you may have seen, so we do like the fact that it is preferable. They are comfortable, but the engine will not have as much torque as the one in Skoda, hence probably why it feels a bit sluggish, in spite of 180 bhp.
If you wanted to know about diesels as Mr Lloyd said there was the 1.9 CDTi in the pre facelift and facelift and in pre facelift models there was a 2.0 DTi and 2.2 DTi. They both had less power than the 1.9 CDTi but had more torque but the DTi diesels were discontinued when they facelifted the car and then in the facelift they launched the 3.0 CDTi which is a big engine for a car like this but it has a lot of power and torque and gives decent fuel efficiency
As you well know, sir, we don't talk about those on this channel!!!!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yep but this is for the people who want to know about the diesels sir
In that case they are on the wrong channel, sir!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting haha
It does the job, "adequate" is how what car? described it in 2002 when it was released. I too loved the signum and the vel satis, but those models were deleted after a few years due to poor sales. As stated the wheels are from a higher spec vauxhall, btw is this one ulez compliant? as i dont think Mr Lawrence will want to pay £15 after hanger lane on the A40 from uxbridge rd, hayes!!
Yes sir, this is an Ultra Low Emission Zone compliant car! This was one of the criteria which Laurence and I discussed when we did the search, which is great. That is right, the Signum and Vel Satis were similar in concept, but buyers still stayed away!
The elite facelifts were very well specked, beige leather, sat nav, heated seats front and rear and a choice of 3 different V6s!!
Yes, they certainly were! This is a bit different, but as far as I am aware, my friend still has it, and it is still going. I would prefer a nice petrol V6, though.
As someone with a Vectra C 3.2l as a first car, I cannot recommend that model as a real budget car. It's expensive to have (road tax, insurance) and drinks a lot of petrol. Engine parts can be costly, mine needed a new clutch and flywheel + smaller parts (because of those, got the car for free). Also, the intake plenum is huge due to VRIS (Variable Resonance Induction System), so you need to take it off to do basic things like spark plugs and ignition coils (coil-on-plugs). But if you want to have a really nice reliable 2000s car that packs a punch even when loaded full of people and cargo, go ahead and get one incase you have a chance. Just make sure you change your oil often enough, especially on a high-mileage one. Understeer isn't concern when driving within speedlimit and good tyres. Stiffer aftermarket suspension and/or coilovers are also an option to improve handling. At least my unit hasn't suffered from torque steering, but your mileage may wary.
The 3.2 V6 is very different from this earlier 1.8, I imagine. Probably much, much slower and less complicated. Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
I've had 3 Vectra C's and I cant fault any of them. 2 were written off (Not my Fault). One of which I believe save my life! Bloody strong cars the Vectra! And sold one when I moved abroad. Now back in the UK I bought my old Vectra Back. Its a 3.0 V6 CDTI full exterior pack 2, basically a VXR with a Diesel. Plenty quick enough to keep up with the Germans. You don't talk about diesels on your channel......Your missing out!
Well, I actually have a whole video on my channel discussing why we don't talk about diesels on the channel, but we will set that aside for now... Yes, I am aware of the 3.0 V6 CDTI, I understand that it is an impressive engine if we are discussing the "forbidden fuel". The Vectra Cs must have been some of the strongest cars of their time, lots of safety features and other equipment for the money.
3.0 V6? I shudder to imagine the road tax and mpg!!
@@worthlessdollar1 3.0 Diesel. Quite happily sits in the High 40's touching 50 MPG and the road tax isn't much more than a 1.9 diesel
@@cw4004 That's actually pretty good. The trouble is the ULEZ zones - soon to sprout everywhere - will completely screw diesels.
@@worthlessdollar1 Couldn't agree more! We are all going to be nailed for having any type of fossil fuelled vehicle sooner or later. I'm shagged either way as My other car is a 6.0 Monaro. LOL
Nice little review sir, I believe if memory serves (and its cloudy from time to time) there were 2 versions of the 121hp 1.8 16v fitted (black engine cover and silver engine cover) as mine is a silver one and doesn't use the water pump as timing belt tensioner it actually uses a separate tensioner but I can't remember if that was a technical update, the post 2005 1.8 differs in that it has a vvti valve train another common problem aside from the switch gear being on the fragile side is the springs they do like to snap suspension springs but all in all pretty solid reliable cars
Yes, the 1.8 in the facelifted car develops more power and has variable valve timing, although that does mean there is more to go wrong. The swirl flaps on my Astra H Twintop engine had been deleted, which I think is a popular modification. The Family I engine has been around for absolutely ages (mid-1980s), and had so many variants that I find it hard to keep track of it. You are probably right about the two different ones with the different tensioners. I would have to start looking at engine codes to be able to go into more detail. Those one touch stalks, which I also remember from my Astra H, are a bit of a nightmare, aren't they? Mind you, you do get used to them...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting having test driven a face-lift the extra hp is definitely a welcome addition although if a little underpowered the family 1 can propel the vectra along at a fair progression if you employ a spirited driving style by no means are you going to set the road alright but if you use the full length of the rev range it does OK for itself, and they are very much duct tape and cable engineering as far as home maintenance is concerned, yeah the soft touch can be annoying until you take the time to find out how they actually work then their quite simple problem is a lot of people treat them like conventional stalks then get frustrated when they don't do what they want them to,
@@amosburton5227 , yes, the engine in my TwinTop was actually slightly modified, so it had a Toyo Sports four branch exhaust manifold, swirl flap delete and cat delete, along with a remap to around 150 bhp, so it made a great noise and was fast enough, although the TwinTops probably weigh the same as a Vectra C, so it wasn't blindingly fast, but it was fun. Definitely worth going for one of the later cars with a bit more power if you can! Mr Coleman (aka The Rubbish Mechanic) has a video on his channel servicing the TwinTop, and it is really, really easy to change the oil and filters on this Family I engine, as you say. I got used to the stalks, as I owned the Astra for a little while.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yes I follow Mr Coleman in fact it was through his channel I found yours so I have seen the twintop videos.
@@amosburton5227 , that is excellent, he makes everything look so easy!
These are one of the last lot of cars that make viable rotters in my very humble opinion. I'd always hankered after a petrol estate as they are huge inside and laughably cheap.
Yes, there's something really appealing about them as an inexpensive daily car, isn't there? This 1.8 petrol is also Euro IV compliant, so should be fine in the Ultra Low Emission Zones, unlike the diesels. The estates are definitely huge!
Getting a 07 Vauxhall Vectra elite 1.9 cdti
Oh, that sounds very luxurious indeed! Thanks ever so much indeed for watching.
Jeremy Clarkson's fave car of course :)
Of course, for once I actually remembered to mention that!
I prefer this shape to the first gen, for some reason I just didn’t gel with it, never driven one but I do love the Calibra, that’s a car I’d like to drive again. *B
Oh, the Calibra! Haven't seen one of those in a very long time. I don't think that a Vectra C is a very emotional purchase, it tends to be a more rational one, which I think sums it up, really...
Yes and I think the gen insignia looks even worse. I think Vauxhall did such a good job on the MK1 insignia they shot themselves in the foot. How do you improve a car that already look a god?
@@matty6848 , the facelifted Insignia A in particular does look rather nice. I sourced a pre-facelift one for a client last year, and it was absolutely excellent.
I drove a couple of hired Vectra Cs - I can’t say I’m a fan of them. Although the styling is quite pleasing, the interior was odd, very plasticky, with irritating electronic column stalks which seem to have a mind of their own, and were an oddly unengaging car to drive. They’re probably a great bangernomics car, although having had experience of GM turbo-diesels in a couple of SAABs, they weren’t the most durable engines.
I don't think that these are the most exciting car in the world, with the possible exception of the V6 models and the VXRs, but they do appear at the moment to be the very definition of bangernomics: many are just one moderately priced repair away from being scrapped. Yes, we stayed away from the fuel which shall not be mentioned, which is definitely for the best. You are right, those one touch stalks are not my favourite, but you do get used to them eventually...
It’s a humble, workhorse car
I think that sums it up pretty well, I do quite like it, though.
Not sure if it is sad or healthy (for the car market) that a great deal of these cars have been scrapped..not because of any rot issues (which use to be a car's premier death warrant) but because they have no street credibility, making them virtually worthless and a long term service replacement like a clutch seem like a great deal of money in comparison to the car's worth.An old Mondeo is usually structurally sound (compared to other old Fords) and people are prepared to spend money on the rubbery and brake pipe issues on the time/ labour intensive rear subframe and the very time/labour intensive clutch change.
That's right, a lot of these Vectra Cs are one moderately priced repair (clutch, cambelt, etc.) away from being scrapped due to chronic depreciation. It does mean that they are absolute bargains, but it is often cheaper to buy a different car than fix them. They aren't alone in this either. Is a clutch quite difficult to do on a Mark III Mondeo?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes at one time it was an epic job on any Mondeo, the subframe had to come out and then be re-aligned on installation etc ..and with certain models (diesel etc) having a DMF flywheel (often the cause of the problem not the clutch) the job cost could run well into 4 figures . However time has moved on and there are mobile operators such as .www.williamsmobileclutch.co.uk/ ..who have tamed the Mondeo clutch and will replace it in your driveway/garage for a more modest 3 figure sum.YT channel. ruclips.net/video/tpXz9a7n9Us/видео.html
@@Witheredgoogie , gosh, I know that a Volkswagen Group clutch with a dual mass flywheel of the same era is expensive to replace, but I didn't realise that a Mondeo was quite so bad. I imagine Mr Coleman probably has done a few of those in an ingenious way... He isn't a fan of dual mass flywheels, but they are useful for people who can't drive very well (like me).
Sorry it wasn't Richard Hammond, it was Jonathan Green. Richard drove the 1999 model.
He did indeed, sir! And the Vectra B seats were not found to be very comfortable either...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting maybe so but Ian Royal thought that the Vectra B SRi 2.5 V6 was awesome. A chap in the next estate had a black one for years and his leaving for and returning from work were momentus occasions.
@@seancooke4127 , that engine is the same as in Mr Coleman's old Vauxhall Omega, and it is brilliant! I had a lovely time driving it back in February for Tweed Jacket Reviews. Fantastic noise!
Are you sure the water pump tensions the belt?
The Z18XE's definitely the best engine.
Can't remember now, this video was recorded three years ago....
What more do you want from a big family saloon?
This one is a hatchback, the saloons are very rare.
You definitely get plenty of equipment for your money. Would have to be a a V6 auto with tan leather interior
Or maybe VXR estate, just to be different.
Yes, they do seem like superb value at these really low prices, don't they? I would also like a V6 with a beige leather interior, but then, you already knew that, didn't you.....
Facelift was a big improvement, decent build quality but terrible ride! And I'm a vauxhall fan
The ride didn't seem too bad to me, it's probably worse on a lot of more modern cars, to be honest!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting the ride is rotten....way too hard. really let's the car down, drive a mk4 mondeo and feel the difference.
It's still not as bad as something like a Nissan Juke, but I would definitely like to try a Mark IV Mondeo and see how much better it is.
Not sure why that would be. I have a 1.8 Design estate that had a pretty plush ride. Then I upgraded the springs/shocks with Eibach/Bilstein and the ride actually got better, but the handling is now just spot on, whereas it was a bit floaty before.
@@appledjerry , maybe this is a bit of a subjective question, as I didn't find the ride on the one I drove bad at all.
That’s a Z18xe engine it doesn’t have a plastic thermostat housing but the actually thermostat does go wrong as I had to replace mine
Yes, apologies, the later engines in the post-facelift Vectras were the ones with the plastic thermostat housing (like the one in my old Astra H). Definitely people on the Internet with a lot more Vauxhall expertise than me.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I had a 2004 vectra 1.8 bought it for £200 off a friend only expected to keep it for a bit while I sorted myself out but ended up going from 104k miles to 210k miles in the end it was a very reliable car only changed had to change one alternator.
@@mrkiplingman , that's an excellent price. I am pleasantly surprised just how many stories there are like yours of people who buy these cars at a bargain price, and then get vast amounts more use out of them than they ever imagined for much less outlay. Laurence absolutely loves his, and I completely understand why.
Was Saturn the word your were after at 13:12?
Probably, sir, it's been ages since I filmed this.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Still a very relevant video. These got a bit of a bad rap with the Dog and Lemon Guide here (Top Gear roasted this model too) but they seem quite solid and comparable to my Honda. The problem is that people loved them to bits literally, at least in your country, so it might be hard to find a Vectra in perfect condition, even in New Zealand.
@@alaricbragg7843 , yes, they were virtually valueless for a long time, as they suffered from such horrific depreciation. This is why finding a good one can be so hard.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Ironically it's Insignia replacement, while regarded most highly in the UK, is enduring depreciation in its Holden form. On the plus side that can theoretically mean a great car for a bargain price...
@@alaricbragg7843 , yes, the Insignia has traditionally suffered from very heavy depreciation over here as well, sir!
The vectra before this model was more popular than this newer model ( here in holland) . I know 5 different Families that bought the 1996 Vectra’s hatchbacks or saloons and they all drove and owned it for 10 to 16 years.! And how longer they had the car how more they loved it. And because they are real Opel vectra families most of them also choose this 2005 model with the plan to have it just as long. But this was nit the case. It had more technical problems and it was more complicated. So they had it much shorter. Now they all have Smaller astra’s because the children are out the house
Me myself had a 2001 opel Omega 2.5 v6 caravan with every option that the car could have.
You have seen the Vauxhall Omega review on Tweed Jacket Reviews, haven't you? I have driven a 1996 Vectra B and I found it very uncomfortable, sadly. They were not well received in this country at all, as you probably know.
No I didn’t knew that. I’m surprised. Because here all people that owned one still talks about it like they had an Bentley or something. And they had it so long because they where like we don’t need a new car. But later the vectra became old with much kilometers so before they had any problems they choose this newer vectra.
@@jdnrotterdam2150 , if you look up the old Top Gear episode from 1995 where Jeremy Clarkson tests the Vectra B, you will understand entirely why this car was not very well received in this country.
I’m just finished the little topgear film about the vectra. Clarkson. Didn’t said it was a bad car. It was just a boring car. But i think all cars from that class and from that time where a little.... just cars. Ford mondeo’s. Vectra’s .. toyota carina’s. Renault laguna’s Just standard normal from a to b practical cars. That’s why i liked the Sierra more than the mondeo.
The vectra c 2006+ water pump was not driven by cam belt.
Are you very familiar with these engines?
Love the styling
It's fine, it's not ugly unlike some of today's cars that I could mention...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Nissan Juke
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I like the side. The front and the back is fine
@@terrificspokesman7416 , don't remind me, sir....
@@terrificspokesman7416 , the post-facelift ones are even better.
You could also get the powerful VXR or OPC in some markets
Wait until a bit later in the video, sir....
@@lloydvehicleconsulting ok
Did I cover the VXR, sir?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yep
Excellent!
£300 for a thermostat come on get real
That's how much it cost to get the one done on my Astra H TwinTop earlier this year.
@@lloydvehicleconsultingthat's the rip off of a lifetime the part only costs £20 at the most so i dont know how its cost you so much
@@maurocardoso3579 , I had to get the part at short notice as the car literally emptied its cooling system all over the driveway one day and as the plastic thermostat housing blew up (a common problem). I went down to GSF car parts and the thermostat housing alone was over £100. I got my local garage to do it for me, but it isn't a particularly easy job, and so the labour was about £200. I didn't have much of a choice at the time.
I recognize that area .. Hayes Manor and Stockley Park !!
Absolutely, filmed around the Hayes/Stockley Park area.
They look quite dull but a good motorway cruiser
Absolutely, available for very little money these days, they aren't bad at all.
I think they still make the vectra but it's called the insignia now
Yes, that's pretty much correct. The Insignia A replaced the Vectra C in 2008 and then it was itself replaced by the current Insignia B in 2017. Thank you for watching and commenting!
As much as I love vauxhall I'm sorry but this model I just don't like awfull styling the cavalier shape was far better .
It's ok if you buy one of theses cheap run it in to the ground and bin it its a perfect throw away car.
Yes, chronic depreciation and low secondhand values mean that these are often bought as cheap runarounds now. I would certainly like to have a Cavalier on the channel! Thanks ever so much indeed for watching nevertheless.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yes I've had mk3 Cavaliers and calibras and Cavalier shape vectra all great cars
@@Victor-DOOM , I would certainly love to try a nice Mark III Cavalier!
Consumption city?
Not sure, I am afraid...
We had a 1.8 poverty spec Signum, was a nice car to sit in with lots of kit but the engine was terrible, ridiculously underpowered for a car of that size.
*And the stalks have a mind of their own
Yes, if you had a pre-facelift one with 120 bhp, that would be a bit slow. Lots and lots of trim levels! How is the CityRover getting on, Mr Roles?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting It was a face-lift but an early 55 plate, still see it around here now. Its getting on well thanks, its getting driven now and has been getting attention to bring it back up to a better standard. Window motors soon. I hope the 45 is well.
@@elliotroles7502 , interesting that it is still around! Still got those annoying indicators, though. Glad to hear that your CityRover is improving! Yes, the 45 V6 is fine, it is going for an MOT at Mr Coleman's uncle's garage next month.
the wiper linkages go on them all,poor design
Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
Comfortably, Mr Lloyd? In my experience Vauxhall seats are not comfortable at all. Far too hard. You sit on them rather than in them.
Having driven and owned a number of Vauxhalls myself, these are pretty good! The Vectra B seats, as Ian Seabrook frequently explained, are terribly hard, though.
Having covered the vast majority of the the 116k on mine I can honestly say that the seats are perfectly comfortable in them and improvement over the vectra b's seats they do take a bit of frequent adjustment to get them in the right place though
@@amosburton5227 , I once drove an early Vectra B as a courtesy car, and found the driving position terrible, very uncomfortable indeed, which was a fully justified common criticism. I didn't have the same problem in the Vectra C.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting in comparison the B was a much narrower car meaning the seats ended up somewhat restricted being a completely different platform the C has a much wider floor pan (as it was used for quite a few American cars) I've driven mine to various locations in the UK and found the comfort to be quite acceptable especially being of a slightly fuller figure than most
@@amosburton5227 The ones I've had are a Zafira A (2001) and an Astra H (2005). The Astra's seats were harder than the Zafira's and both were far more firm than the Fusion I drive now.
Roasted!!!
Indeed, sir!