Air Con Intake Box Install ..... 6x10 Enclosed Trailer Conversion Project
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2014
- We bought a New 6x10 Vnose Enclosed Trailer. Time to Convert into a Stealth Camper.
This Video we are adding a return for a portable Air conditioner.
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Just looking into cooling my utility trailer and I'm glad I watched your video! Thank you!
Use it like your home ac. Have you intake pull air from the cabin. It makes no sense to me to pull hot air to cool when you can recirculate interior that will be cooler and ac unit will not have to work as hard. Vent out of course. The air exchange rate would be pretty high on one side but if it's pulling too much use the installed vents in the roof and side walls to regulate the air flow in the envelope so opening the door will not be an issue. I've never done that but it seems to make sense to me. I'll be adding ac, light and plug in for tv for my enclosed trailer that I will be taking to shows and rallies and it would be nice to have the option to bring a cot to stay in my trailer rather than a hotel. I'd just set it up with a quite run Honda generator which will put out plenty of amps. and no conversion would be needed.
SO this has Helped Tremendously ...
Dude, you have to pull in air from the space you are cooling and exhaust that conditioned air to the outside. Think of window a/c unit for a house.
Window ac has and in and out for the exhaust outside of the window and then an in and an out inside the window
You want the cold air blowing out up high near ceiling.
the return should always be fed by inside already air conditioned air
I admire the DIY attitude as much as anyone, but seriously... purchasing two indoor AC units, days of work adapting a windowless structure to work with two machines designed to vent through windows, huge space sacrifices in an already cramped unit, and a bunch of holes knocked in the floor of your trailer.... something tells me the better answer here would have been installing a rooftop unit. Used ones must be available at wreckers, and they seem to be about the most reliable appliance in an RV so I wouldn't be too scared of buying one.
Rooftop units are not stealthy
But yes that would be more efficient
I'm pretty sure these AC units are supposed to recycle the inside air. Not sure why you are pulling in outside air?
Think condenser is the cold bit. Like a cold beer attracts condensate so does the condenser
Good mod. It should be much mor efficient
Are the majority of portable units intake on the side the part that you want to seal up?
Sure, you are now pulling in air from the outside to run through the heat exchanger and then out the hot air hose. A single hose unit basically has one air input and 2 outs. The intake feeds air to the heat exchanger on the condenser side and this air get hots and blows out the hot air tube, which you have vented outside hopefully. The intake air ALSO feeds the evaporator side and gets cooler and is discharged into the room. You think you have done a great thing by bringing in the air from outside but instead you are now trying to cool the hot outside air instead of recirculating and re-chilling the already cool inside air. No efficiency gained here. Single tube coolers suck for this exact reason. Never buy a single tube AC. Always buy a dual tube portable AC, keep the hoses as short as possible and insulate both hoses. Trust me this is the only way to get it to really work well.
My single hose DeLonghi will freeze you, it cools my room much better and is very efficient. Does a hell of a lot better since my at my moms, my room stays 5 degrees above the thermostat, so it's 80 degrees in my room when I go there. It cools my medium sized bedroom to 65 in about an hour or maybe less, and it's extremely accurate. Makes a big difference and I am happy with it, it's a really powerful unit.
Ford Is Best. Yes they will work really well in a small room. What you don't really feel is the warm air being sucked in through tiny openings all over the house. You are trading cool air in your room for warm air entering the rest of the home due to negative pressure.
Wow! That's crazy... Now I see why they say 2 hose units are way more efficient. So I see, since the back or side (intake) of the unit is drawing in air, which creates basically a vacuum effect, it will pull air from outside my room under the door and any small holes. Correct? That's not good, but for what mine is, I love it.
GrimmEngineer Perhaps some single hose units share one intake. I have a single hose portable A/C, and it has two completely separate intake screens, one for the condenser, and one for the evaporator. In fact, based on how portable A/C units are designed, I think it would take extra effort and ducting to try to combine the two. It's cheaper to keep the evaporator and condenser intake separate.
That's why this change is helping so much.
I learned this with my single hose. I had to take other steps to stop the negative pressure problem. So far it has worked out good.
Your not getting the humidity out of the room.
i am confused,i have the same unit..and i did not have to put another hole...where it draws in air,it is pulling,air from the room and recycling it. no need to put another hole.works just fine..
watch this video
basically im making a 2 port system.
when its running in the trailer.. its making a hard suction .. pulling air thru all and any cracks in the walls/floors.. this makes it pull outside air to the intake only.. and not filling the room with HOT outside air
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how do you run that unit say when ur camped at a mx track or in the woods etc. battery, generator your truck??
+Jared Conville Have to have power, Generator...
I was having the same problem in my 6x12 V nose cargo trailer. A single hose portable air conditioner unit uses the same air inside the trailer to cool evaporator and condenser. As the air enters the A/C unit it is split into two different chambers. One chamber is for the air to blow across the evaporator core to be cooled. The other chamber directs air to be blown across the condenser core with a much larger fan and out the exhaust tube. The problem is that there is more air being blown across the condenser and out the exhaust tube than air coming into the trailer. This causes a negative pressure inside the trailer causing the A/C unit to not work properly. Homes do not have this problem due to a larger area being cooled and drafts in the home. A home A/C unit has the evaporator core and fan inside with a recirculating air vent with filter. The condenser is mounted outside with a fan. It uses outside air to cool the condenser down. The way I solved my problem was to install a RV two way wall vent for venting gas fumes out of RV Toy Haulers. I installed the vent behind the A/C unit so there would not be so much hot outside air being pulled across the whole inside of my trailer. I can regulate the amount of air coming in as needed. I hate to say it, but a window unit is a more efficient way of cooling down a cargo trailer.
my latest trailer i went with a 2 hose system, WAAAAAY better, and it has heat
With the modifications I have done it has worked out well so far. The real test will be this June, July and August down here in Texas. A dual hose will be what I use on the next trailer.
Kraka069 which dual hose unit did you get?
@@mike_manning_fishing3198 How did it work out in the heat? I'm working on a 7x16 enclosed trailer right now that needs cooling. I'm leaning towards the dual hose AC unit. But I keep reading about the negative pressure being the issue with the single hose units, so it got me thinking. My trailer has a ceiling vent and 2 side vents already. If I where to open either of those vents, would be enough to reduce the negative pressure? Would this allow a single hose AC to work efficiently? Or should I just go with the dual hose setup? I would like to avoid having to cut out a bunch of holes in my new trailer. Thanks.
MrBlurry2011 It helped when I added a vent in the wall next to the A/C unit. At least now it’s not creating a vacuum in the trailer. I had to add a small filter I made to the vent to keep out all the dust. In the heat of the day in my trailer it was cooling down to 76. Still not completely happy but it’s better than the 82 degrees I was getting out of it in the heat of the day.
Has this helped to keep it cooler in there???
Yes
I don't understand your theory , this air a condition it's designed to work inside rooms , it suck X amount of air and replace it with the same X , I am just saying ....
so it has Two places it SUCKS air in, the condenser removes heat , and the evaporator absorbs heat. the evaporator pulls in air from room and blows across the cold surface absorbing heat and the air feels cool.
the Condenser pulls air in and blows across the hot surface and removes it outside of the room. it will pull in HOT air from outside , if it has to pull in from any crack or crevice.. THE air will be hot and circulate inside your room. your ac will work overtime to cool the air and the new hot air.
the AIR box pull air in to the box only, across the condenser and then flows outside.. No outside HOT air enters the room. Thus not having to cool it also.
Make sense>?
Yea you right , now I am stating to understand what is your point of view is , so why this large companies make this system ? if it does not work
Tony Stadele Ok.. So lets say we are using this to cool off a bedroom .
It would pull air from every DRAFTY place in the house... then it would pull the air thru the cooled house and out the port. So its pulling in cool air from other rooms and its not having to work so hard.
your MAIN house ac would cool the warm air being pulled in from windows and doors and such.. and is not a big deal, to a large house AC.
BUT they do make dual port systems.. One for intake and one for exhaust..
I am using a GE 8000 btu inside a in a Freightliner Columbia and it runs with a Honda Eu2000i and during the day it struggles at 96 degrees outside , but I and making adjustments in the installation
Tony Stadele I was wondering the same thing. Lmao
Looks like a good idea. How did it work? I tried a LG 12000 btu in my trailer and ended up taking it back. Purchased a 8000 BTU unit from www.climateright.com and it works great. unit sits outside with two ducts entering the trailer. One cooling and one sucking hot air out.
Cleveland Randolph how is your climateright holding up? I'm thinking of getting one
That's not how that unit is supposed to work. Hope you got it sorted out.