The Day After the Altoona Derailment PART 2 of 2 by Super Trains
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2014
- Railfanning Norfolk Southern trains passing track MOW from derailed autorack cars, filmed the day after the derailment from two angles September 2014 at 24th 1/2 Street Bridge in Altoona, PA, USA, near CP Altoona PT 236.9 on the Pittsburgh Line in the Pittsburgh Division by Super Trains
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I just watched Parts 1 & 2 and it made me homesick! I was born and raised in Altoona. Both of my grandfathers were locomotive engineers on the PRR. (Roughly 1915 -1928) Thanks for sharing!
Al, it takes for a train derailment is one sharp flange on a car to pick a switch and drop an axle. That will spread the rail and drop the axles behind that point. NS has a very good track maintenance policy but as good as your track maintenance is it only takes one worn part on a passing train to cause a derailment.
Trains derail every day on every railroad across the country but most of them are slow speed derailments that don't create a severe problem. But when a train is moving over 20 mph the higher the speed the more kinetic energy there is to disperse.
When you have a high volume of traffic eventually the odds catch up to you no matter how good you do everything right.
Stay safe out there those fans watching or taking pictures or videos a minimum of 20 feet from the track because when some goes wrong you might need that 20 feet to get outa dodge.
Superb point of view!
Two excellent videos thanks, loads of action, jack-pot.
Having worked in my career as a locomotive engineer I've run many freights through yards and derailment sites and I guarantee you that the horn isn't because we like to blow the horn, some track worker or wrecker crew member while concentrating on his job doesn't even know we are going through sometimes as I have seen the look of surprise on the workers face and gotten many a nod for the horn blast. I've blown the horn continuously through a wreck site and was questioned by the division superintendent on the road radio why I blew the horn so long and loud as it disrupted his phone call. I simply told him it was easier to blow the horn versus see some man get injured or killed and it was a lot easier than filling out accident paperwork. He immediately replied you keep doing just like you have as I don't want to read reports like that either. Never heard another peep about it and I heard later everybody else running through the site was blowing the horns loud and long. Look at all the hard hats walking around the site, it's too easy to injure or kill someone hence why we engineers blow the horn to what a civilian seems excessive, it's not excessive if no one gets hurt. All the employees on a wreck site are concentrating on their jobs and it's easy to lose situational awareness of where you are and how much danger you are putting yourself or someone else into. Once I apologized to a MOW super for blowing the horn so much through their track work job and was told nothing to apologize for everybody on a track gang uses ear hearing plugs to keep their from losing their hearing so they are already at a disadvantage to begin with.
Jim retired Locomotive Engineer
Way to go Jim, you said it right ... safety first is a serious matter and if observed everybody goes home in one piece. People who don't like to hear horns shouldn't live near a busy rr.
That is also why spotters are so important to track gangs. One or two people need to do nothing else but watch for trains, and alert everyone when one is coming.
thank you for doing a long honorable service ... job well done sir.
good video, i was there the day it happened and almost everydfay after for a week. it was bad, but took no long to clean up.
that place is conjested
Cool delrailment video
Good Video Bad Situation For Norfolk Southern
That was something you caught the last oil can with a duel DPU on the rear. NS has a power shortage going on that's why the DPU's has ended on the oil cans.
Lived in Altoona for 12 years!!!!! Surprised about the accident!! Very heavily trafficked area!!!!!!!!
Super Trains !! Those track repairs sure don't look smooth & straight from the camera views !! Hate to be the Engineer who has to go over those as looks like another derailment in the progress !!! Enjoyed the videos & your time to make them !!! KEEP IT SAFE !!!
From alyoona i remember this. We went down and watched
Awesome video!
Just subscribed!!
A lot of traffic on the 3 available lines.
Is the hopper car between the locos & all those tank cars for safety reasons? I've also seen this done in Russia. Greetings from Germany! 🙋
A lot of rail traffic in that area. How are they suppose to make the nescessary repairs.
Hope everyone was ok. That being said. All I could think about was the cars in the auto train cars. Did the air bags go off? Anyone hahaha
my uncle lives right there next to the track were the derailment happen.
there was another filmer
What is the name of the song at the end of the videos?
better a train horn than an ambulance siren !
It too bad you didn't get them putting down the ballast on the new section of rail.
MrMark85044 There was another derailment in Altoona over month ago. We filmed them putting ballast down that time. Here is the video link if you are interested: ruclips.net/video/Pbr6YiPmUIs/видео.html
How far away was the horseshoe curve from there?
David Anstine It's about 5 miles away.
K
why do i often see...for instance...a hopper car as the first car in a tanker unit train??? see that quite often
+Joe Durso For safety reasons, Federal regulations require buffer service cars carrying non hazardous materials to be placed in-between engines and railcars carrying certain freight, often times crude oil. In the event of a derailment it provides a buffer for the engineer and conductor from the cargo to keep them safer and away from the cargo they are pulling. Heres an article from Union Pacific that talks about some of the requirements of buffer cars: www.up.com/customers/chemical/crude/equipment/index.htm
dude...thanks so much for the great info...i feel like a donk now...that made so much sense it's not even funny...preciate that
No need for you to feel like a donk, your a rail fan, not a professional railroader and can't be expected to know all the rules and regulations. That's what makes railroads so interesting to buffs as there are many facits to study and learn about but please do it safely. I once observed when on a work train a rail fan stood within one foot of a freight passing his location at 40 mph and got off the engine after the freight and read him the riot act about being safe when watching trains, three months later I read his obituary when a 4x8 piece of lumber came off a car and skewered him like a piece of meat, he was DOA when the ambulance arrived. If your going to watch trains do so safely with a minimum of 20 feet between you and the train. Just watched a video of a fan watching and making videos of the Amtrak Accela train coming through a commuter station high level platform at 150 mph in Rhode Island and the force of the wind created by the Accela tore a metal backed advertising sign off its mount and it wound up on the platform a few feet from where he was standing. Just goes to show you must be aware and watch for flying debris when near moving trains be they passenger or freight.
James Shanks
Interesting to read. I'm a truck driver, and have spent a good deal of time waiting behind gates as coal and freight go flying by and have always wondered what would happen in a derailment. Since crossing gates are only a few feet from the line, would I have time to jump and run?
I love old cars and trains, and these videos are edifying, sobering and usually wonderful to watch. Thanks
Remember the Lac-Mégantic rail disaster in Quebec, Canada? Google it. That is when they discovered how dangerous the crude oil that these trains were hauling was. Very easy to start a burn. The freight cars before and after a string of tankers is designed to act as an impact buffer and to protect cab crew should there be an impact. Sometimes, when there is a simple derailment, it is the freight car that gets all the damage, and the tankers fall away much more gently.
Wow NS, I haven't seen such crappy maintained track since Rock Island went down. Maybe you need to read some RR history. Derailed? Wonder why?!!!
That mustve been annoying every time a train went by and blew the horn 20 times. I understand you need to do it because of the workers, but cmon 5 or 6 times is enough on each train.
Not much on your videos about the actual derailment or recovery. You should never have titled your videos as being about the derailment. That is called clickbait. It is very apparent though that there are way too many "union" workers being paid to wander around with their thumbs up their rears. And from the way these big freights are being shoved through this narrowed corridor it looks like the scheduler was looking to cause another derailment. More "union" labor?
Derailment is included in the title because a derailment happened the day before. It also explains the track work shown. The day after is included in the title to emphasize that some time had passed since the incident. We are sorry you feel the title is misleading, our intention was to accurately describe the video and to make it discoverable to those searching specifically for the Altoona derailment.