191 Visa Simply Explained. Today we focus upon the Regional Provisional Stream of the 191 visa
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- There have been a number of changes in the information regarding the 191 visa so it is time for an update on current requirements.
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Konstantin editing skill is up to a notch once again, amazing stuff.
And of course, 191 should be easy or else it’s going to be very difficult to attract people to apply for 491.
Hi Karl, I find your videos highly enjoyable. They're packed with information, straightforward, and free from unnecessary complexity and bullshit. Thank you for being so informative. The migration department also pays close attention to your videos. When you highlighted the confusion surrounding 491 Income threshold previously, they responded by removing the income requirement and updating the website. I'm hopeful that your influence won't lead to the introduction of residency requirements this time. 😊😊😊
Thanks so much for the positive feedback! No very unlikely they will bring in a residency requirement for it is just too much work for them to make sure it has been met
Hi Karl,
Thanks for making it easier to understand the conditions of the 191 visa.
Thank you for the positive feedback.
So, there is no residency requirement for 191 Reginal provisional stream, but it says you have to comply with the conditions of your eligible visa. One of the conditions for 491 says " While you are in Australia, you must live, study and work in an area that is on the list of designated regional areas in an instrument." and other says "If you hold a subclass 491 visa, the area must have been on the list of designated regional areas on the date we granted your visa." So, indirectly it is not a residency requirement? Another question is, Must I have worked in the nominated occupation during 491 period?
Hi Karl,
Please can you share statistics that how many people received 191 after 3 years of 491 so far?😊
OR
Anyone who received 191 so far?
Thanks Karl. Your videos are insightful and you're always on point.
Thank you for the positive feedback. Tina.
Huge delay in processing 191 visa - Reason -s56 request.
Hi karl
I would like to bring this issue to your attention that after completing all the living and working requirements in regional areas, now the immigration department started asking medical for children who turned more than 2 years of age after grant of 491 visa.
After providing the medical, the department is not considering those files on a priority basis and causing unnecessary delays.
This issue needs to be resolved immediately by the department as the request was only for child medical and if it comes negative, there is not any point of delaying applications for months.
This is very stressful and frustrating situation for those with children as they stuck again because of the medical request by the department. And who knows how long they have to wait for the grant.
Kindly take this into serious consideration. Parents with their kids are in desperate need of their visa grant as they have to plan to buy house and do future planning for their kida which is mostly based on the decision of the department for their visas.
Please look into this matter as this is not huge task for the department to grant visa after the children's medical got clearance. The department must start looking at the files which they put on hold from long time.
Thank You
Thank you for all your work Karl❤
Thanks Rosella glad you enjoy them
The question is whether they will change these conditions for the 191, as if they do then it will affect all 491 visa holders.
they may change residency requirement or ask to have like some hours of work a week. But requiring income of anything higher than 50k$ is ridiculous for most part.
Love the Videos Karl and Team. Any info about the wait time for 491 to 191 applicants at this time would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi Karl, thank you for the explanation for the 191 visa. As per what the home affairs website mentions, we must meet the 491 visa requirements. I wanted some clarity for the 491 visa conditions where it states that one must live study and work in a regional area. There are 2 main questions:
1. If I applied directly through a NSW RDA and got an invite from the specific region I applied in, am I bound to stay in the nominated region & state (NSW), or I can move to another region in the same state or another state llike VIC or SA without compromising my 491 conditions so as to remain eligible for the 191.
2. If I am able to live and study (for kids) in the nominating region but cannot find a job that matches my skill, is it possible to have my job in a non regional area where I can commute daily and come back, given I would be living and doing all my expenses in the regional area, just not working there because of lack of opportunities.
Any insight on these would help greatly! Thanks!
Hi Karl, I had a question about complying with the conditions of the 491 visa requirement.
One of the condition is to update your residence address/relevant info within 14 days, if one updates it past the 14 days, is it a breach of the visa conditions?
Thanks for your support to 191 applicants to date
A very interesting question that I also want to know the answer to, though I do remember an older video by Karl mentioned that it is best to not miss relevant notices.
Technically yes but they will not be too worried about it as long as you have substantial compliance
Always on point! Thanks Karl.
My pleasure Refael. Glad you enjoyed it
Hey karl could you please make a video or raise an issue about 191visa its wait more than 6months now.. home affairs promised that visa grants will be prioritised but they back off now
Many thanks Karl your work much appreciated. 😊
Thank you for the positive feedback. Sohail.
Hi Karl, firstly thanks and this is about 491 visa! I see you have highlighted in different videos that the candidate need not stick to the state of nomination and instead candidate has to be in regional places and it can be any. In canberra ACT website, it is said that you will be notified to DOHA if you move out of Canberra with in 2 years. How do you see this or what impact a candidate has when he / she moves out of ACT with ACT being the 491 nominated state.
Thanks Karl
Applicants with children born while holding 491 are getting request for medical assessment for kids, that’s delaying decision on their applications, even they provide next day.
Unfortunately yes it will, but dont worry it will happen
Hey Karl.. thanks for your regular video and it's really informative...
Could you please tell us when DHA will start granting 491 offshore applications...
I am waiting.. since lodge Dec2022
Thanking you for your kind attention
Great video Karl. Very useful as always 👌😃
Glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you karl, much needed clarification.
Glad it was helpful Pratik
@@ailsaustralia any views as in why the 491 grants are so slowed down? And particularly off-shore applications. It feels disappointing to see how things are moving.
Thank you for your video Karl, watching them all.
Quick question about being overseas for 6 months on 491 visa, seems like it’s ok, allowed by Home Affairs? I can stay as long as I want?
Hi Karl, Thank you for the explanation of visa 191. As you mentioned in your previous video, 491 visa holders are allowed to work remotely even they do not have a local office in the specific regional area, is this still true? Thank you.
Hi Karl .. thanks for all the support. Had a different question ... can we submit a zero income tax returns ? I mean can we have an NOA with no income ?
Hi Karl, thank you very much for your valuable advices over the years. I followed your advices. Now I am a 491 visa holder and do my own business as a sole trader in a regional area. So I don't have salary slips. Is it mandatory to have pay slips when lodging 191 visa ?
Hi Karl. GSM applications are closed in NT now. Migration NT just announced this. Does that mean that we only have the option of getting an employer sponsored visa?
Hi Karl, i have been waiting for you update on this visa! Thank you. I have a question though.
We are on a 494 and my daughter is a second year student at ANU Canberra. We live and work in regional Victoria. Is the secondary applicant allowed to study in a regional area in another state?
And second question. My son will go to Uni in 2025 before we can apply for the 191. Deakin uni’s main campus is in Melbourne which is obviously not regional, but the 2 campuses in Geelong and Warrnambool are in regional areas. Are the 2 campuses considered regional because of the area or not because they are part of the main campus in Melbourne? Hope my questions make sense.
What is the minimum time duration after which under 491 visa a person becomes eligible to apply for citizenship.
Suppose I am granted 191 visa after 3 years, then again I have to wait 3 years after being granted 191 (meaning3+3=6), or 1 yaer after 191 (3+1=4 years after 491), I become eligible for Australian citizenship?
Hi Karl! Very informative! I lodged my application on 3rd June under Subclass 190. When can I expect my grant letter?
Karl, anything about the grants for 491 visa, is it real that the government will stop any grants until they reassess the whole migration process?
Hi Karl,
I have been really finding the right answer from the day I got 491 visa. So, my situation is like, I work in a company whose head office is in Brisbane & salary comes from Brisbane branch - which is not considered as a regional area. However, my work location is in Geelong, I provide my service in Geelong itself. Am I breaching the 491 condition of working in regional area only?? It would be great a favour if you can give your suggestion as well.
Thanks karl ❤
Thank you so much for your on point explanation Karl. I just had one thing to ask...if we are on 491 regional provisional stream do we have to submit all the payslips and employment contracts of all the employees for these 3 years OR just the ATO tax assessment notices will be sufficient? Could you please advise us? Thank you.
Hi Karl. I am awaiting 190 VIC-(offshore) grant since Dec2022 for Network Analyst.
Kindly suggest what can I do other than waiting as its very frustrating.
Hi Karl, does 491 income requirements remain the same for 3 years in order to lodge 191? Thank you
Hi Karl..
Thanks for your video.
Please raise our voice also, those are waiting for 190 and 491 visa from a long time. Your video make a great impact on DHA.
Thanks in Advance.
Will do so but need some statistics as well
O man. Feeling relieved now. Applying for 191 in November 🫡
Hi Karl, great informative video as always☺️ can you please make a video on wether secondary applicant will be able to lodge a 191 after relationship ceased on 491 visa..?
Thank you.
Please explain about 186 current situation and waiting time
Does anyone know if they are still granting 191 visas in this financial year?
Hi Karl. While holding 491 visa, can we work overseas?
Karl, you mean 491 visa holders can stay outside Australia and they can apply after 3 years for 191. No need to go Australia after granting 491 visa. Is it?
Karl, in this video you said you would make another video about the tax assessment and residency requirements - when are you going to do that video?
Its on a long list but hopefully this year, sorry Natasha
@@ailsaustralia Thanks for your response Karl. I understand you have many visas and latest news to cover in your videos. Can I ask just 1 question - do the 3 tax assessment certificates need to be for 3 full tax years or could the first one be for a partial tax year?
Hi Karl
How long could a 491 visa holder stay outside Australia without affecting transition to visa 191
Hi Karl,do I need to update on immigration portal one day first aid course ?or can I do online one day training course from mainland.Thanks
Huge delay in processing 191 visa - Reason -s56 request.
Hi
I would like to bring this issue to your attention that after completing all the living and working requirements in regional areas, now the immigration department started asking medical for children who turned more than 2 years of age after grant of 491 visa.
After providing the medical, the department is not considering those files on a priority basis and causing unnecessary delays.
This issue needs to be resolved immediately by the department as the request was only for child medical and if it comes negative, there is not any point of delaying applications for months.
This is very stressful and frustrating situation for those with children as they stuck again because of the medical request by the department. And who knows how long they have to wait for the grant.
Kindly take this into serious consideration. Parents with their kids are in desperate need of their visa grant as they have to plan to buy house and do future planning for their kida which is mostly based on the decision of the department for their visas.
Please look into this matter as this is not huge task for the department to grant visa after the children's medical got clearance. The department must start looking at the files which they put on hold from long time.
Please make a Video on it.
Thank You
Hi karl .. when will nsw release its requirements... And why has government slashed the quota for WA.. will it be same for everyone
All good questions and we will cover this in this weekends news edition. Stay tuned Saad
Brilliant video like usual.
Thanks Mohamed glad you enjoyed it
Hi Karl, thank you so much for these knowledgeable and informative videos. I just want to know if a 491 visa holder lives in Australia for 5-6 months after the grant and then he lives overseas while holding this visa is he eligible to apply 191 after 3 years of 491?
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Hi Karl,
You've a great source of accurate information for the visa.
Just would like to know, for 191 visa if partner is holding visa other than subclass 491, can be added as a secondary applicant with 191 application?
Many thanks.
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Cam Comrade - Does there Department have any plan to give 491 visa holders an early pathway to apply for a 191 visa instead of waiting 3 years - same as 482 guys to 186
Hi.. Carl.. Awesome job... Eagerly waiting for the visa conditions explanation for 491 Regional Provisional Stream. And please tell us about why one need to stay in the nominated state after the visa grant? It it a moral obligation? Thanks.
We already have old videos still out there I think but stay tuned for the undated versions
@@ailsaustralia I've watched that, and when I've called to ask this to immi department, they didn't give any straight forward answer, instead asked me to go through the website for this answer. And of course I didn't find any. Can provide the voice record upon request.
Hi Karl, first of all, I would like to thank you for your very informative videos. I always refer to your videos for any updates regarding the 491 & 191 visa.
Also, I would like to ask, before I can apply for 191 visa. Do I have to wait until 3 years of my arrival in Australia.
I was overseas when my 491 visa was granted and waited for 4 months before I arrived in regional Australia due to Covid restrictions.
My 491 visa grant was Oct 2020.
I have arrived in Australia on Feb 2021.
I hope you could give some advise on this. Cheers.
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Great video! Looking forward to others related to 491/191!
Do you think that the federal goverment would reduce the number of invitations for the SC 189 like they did for the SC 190/491 due to backlogged applications from the FY 2022-2023 ? It would be great if you can share some insights about this. Cheers!
DOHA certainly won’t issue big rounds like last time with 35000, and instead might want to wait out visa processing before issuing any invitations. Even then, those 189 are very likely going to pivot towards healthcare and teaching occupations. I hope I am wrong but only time can tell.
@@estellebright2579 35000 invitations at once might be the most ridiculous move in the history of Australian migration. Instead, they should have spread those invitations to the entire financial year. By doing this, they could have had less backlog issues and more control.
As for giving priority to healthcare and teaching occupations, I don’t quite understand it. In the last financial year, those occupationsgot thousands of invitations through 189,190 and 491. Their shortage in Australia is undeniable but considering recently retiring baby boomers in all other occupations, and the need of making Australia a competitive country in the fields of digitalisation, energy, sustainability, net zero etc., Australia needs also talented engineers, IT people, tradeworkers, marketing/salespersons too. If these occupations are to ignore in the eyes of Australia, then Australia should rather update its skilled occupations list and take out all occupations except healthcare and teaching!
How can I get 3 relevant year tax notices without living and working in Australia?
Hi Karl,
Fantastic videos and I enjoy the details explained in the simplest way. I have applied for the 491 regional visa mid of June’23 and awaiting for the Visa grant.
I know its discretional of the DHA, but basis your experience what’s the earliest a person can get 491 visa granted with 80 points?
Regards,
Tony
Cant say about chances questions but glad you have applied for yours already. Best of luck Tony
@@ailsaustralia thanks Karl...
I applied for 491 in May 2022 and beginning of Aug 2023, I was asked to submit further information and redo medicals as 1 year had elapsed after the first medicals. It's costly but we have to comply. Jus be patient your visa will be granted soon.
Thanks karl for the knowledge. western australia seat allocation has been reduced by 70%? any thoughts on this? immigration is going to be same as 22-23 program or tough?
Yes many, stay tuned to the next news edition on Sat
Yeah, I just knew that recently and shocked (yes I know, I applied 190 already but that affects me as well). Any insights would be highly appreciated.
@@ailsaustraliathanks, keen to know what effect of less allocation for people who have already applied 190 visa and waiting for invitations
Hey karl do you have any idea when will 2023-2024 invitations start?
Thanks Karl
Thanks for watching and supporting this channel.
Thanks Carl for your information.
I had appointment last week with you was great experience.
One more question forgot to ask you please reply me now.
My friend had traffic affence like drink and drive and cancel his license for 6 months and need to appear front of court. Is it going to be any issues for PR?
Glad you did Praveen! A single DUI would not benough to cause a major problem but another one would so make sure he is being a good lad from now on
Single DUI means,,, first time isn't it?
Hello Sir, How much is the 191 visa cost for primary applicant?
Is it true that 3 year’s experience (on 491/494) has been reduced to 2 years now?
You mean 3 years experience after granted 491/494 or before??
@@AviTaaj after
Hi Karl! Can I apply 191 outside of Australia and still be granted offshore as well? Thank you! ☺️
Yes you can!
Thank you so Much Karl for this wonderful information i have one concern My 491 visa was granted on April 2022 i came and start to live and work on australia from November 2022
So from which time i will be eligible to apply for 191
Is it from April 2025 or Nov 2025 ?
April 25 you will meet one of the requirements. Please book a time to discuss the rest
Also Karl any idea as to why some people who lodged in March (like me) have been skipped whilst others who lodged end of June got grants?
I mean I know every case is different but there's no way to request an update about one's own application?🤔
Yes very frustrating when they do that but often they try and grant the most recnet first to make themselves look good
Some occupations got priority processing than others, and DOHA certainly process their visas first, while leaving everyone else behind.
Hello Karl. If both the applicants are out of Australia and working remotely with salary credited in Australia. Will that give a chance to apply from 491 to 191.
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Hi Karl,
Thanks for your updates. Will it be a problem if we live in lets say Pakhenham, VIC(regional) and later if it is changes to Metropolitan area?
Saf what matters is the postcodes published when your visa is granted. ANy change from now will not apply to you
@@ailsaustralia Thanks Karl, so do I save the post codes for reference as it might change later?
Hello Sir, I have enjoyed the details explained in the simplest way of your video. I have applied visa for NSW RDA 491 on last April,23. Occupation: Agricultural Consultant. Any prediction when the visa will be granted?
Just what the processing times say. We will cover that update early Sept. Thanks for the positive feedback
@@ailsaustralia Thanks a lot
Great for it. I'm electrician what can I do for to immigrate to Australia 🇦🇺 please help me to show me the right way. I'm dewlling in eswatini Africa
Hi everyone!
Just wanted to clarify since me and my wife and son gone home to our home country for > 6 months after covid and I had to resign from work in that span of time. Do we have to wait until we’ve actually worked in the regional area for 3 years or just holding 491 for 3 years count? Thanks heaps and good luck everyone!
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Hi Karl hope you doing great
My question is I got my 494 visa grant on 19th may 2023 and I arrived on 19th June 2023. I started my work on 21st of June and I got tax return from ATO which is about one week what I worked? . So my question is that one week of tax return will count as one year or not plz let me know. Thank you
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hi there, I have my 491 visa since February 2020 but was allowed to come to Australia on 31 December 2021 because of Covid situation. my question is can i apply for 191 visa after June 2024 (subsequent to 2 tax assessments) or do I have to wait until 31 December 2024?
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Hi Karl . I am on 489. Is it ok to change the states as long as I live in regional within the postcodes given. As there is misunderstanding most say change state after PR 887 is lodged. Seek your kind advise.
When your 489 visa was granted you must use the list that was inforce then. ANy area is fine as long as it is within the range
Hi Karl, I got 491 skilled regional visa granted and applied for 491 subsequent visa for my partner as I got married after visa granted. Can We apply 191 together?
Yep sure
Hey Karl,
Can we do medicals for 191 in advance, by using the immi account. Since most people with kids are getting S56 request for kids medical. Can we generate our own hapid and complete the medicals and submit the proof of medicals in the documents list
As far as I know you need to lodge the application to generate HAPID Jatin
Hi karl. I have applied for 190visa in march2023, at what time i can expect my grant?
How many points U have, Work Experience or Not
Hi, i am waiting for 491 invitation, i have apply EOI on 17 of May...any Idea how long it will take ??
Sorry impossible to tell. Hang in there
491 visa Secondry applicant is it possible to move other regional area than nominated regional area to study.
Yes indeed
Just one more thing, I am at 95 pts for mchncl engineers 189.. will I get invited this year??
Hope so Saad but impossible to say. Certainly high enough to have a good chance
Hi Karl do they cancel application if any kid has any disability. I heard they deport such families .please explain karl
I think that's discrimination 😢
@@MaureenBlanco yes it is
Is it not necessary to stay in regional area for 491 visa?
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@@ailsaustralia Yes, I need assistance. How can I get that?
Hi Karl,
Thank you for your informative video. Just wanted to know what are the chances of receiving 189 invitation for Registered Nurse Nec 254499 with 70 points. The government has allocated very few seats for 190 visa so wanted to know about 189 possibility.
Love you Karl ❤
Thanks Mohammad, keep watching
Is TSMIT applicable for 494?
Yes but the new TSMIT does not apply to 494 visas already granted
I have applied for 190 visa, if there is no update within expected time period , what can I do?
These days expect at least 12 months
Hi Carl
We are at the end of August but They don't grant 491 applicants
They will hang in there
@@ailsaustralia hope so
@user-lj7dh8lt3vwho are you ? ..spreading negativity
So if you hold 491, can you live in metro area of any state? Or has to be living in regional for 3 years?
No there are post code ranges to adhere to
Occupation 149914 at 75 points?
Any chances under 191 or 491?
Yes always chances, cant tell you how much though so best of luck and thanks for being the first to momment!
Thank you so much for your reply, i really appreciate. I have lodged eoi last month with 75 point for states sa, tas, victoria under 491
Any visa grants for 190 recently
Yes some
@@ailsaustralia thanks Karl! how old were these applications...just curious :)
Huge delay in processing 191 visa - Reason -s56 request.
Hi
I would like to bring this issue to your attention that after completing all the living and working requirements in regional areas, now the immigration department started asking medical for children who turned more than 2 years of age after grant of 491 visa.
After providing the medical, the department is not considering those files on a priority basis and causing unnecessary delays.
This issue needs to be resolved immediately by the department as the request was only for child medical and if it comes negative, there is not any point of delaying applications for months.
This is very stressful and frustrating situation for those with children as they stuck again because of the medical request by the department. And who knows how long they have to wait for the grant.
Kindly take this into serious consideration. Parents with their kids are in desperate need of their visa grant as they have to plan to buy house and do future planning for their kida which is mostly based on the decision of the department for their visas.
Please look into this matter as this is not huge task for the department to grant visa after the children's medical got clearance. The department must start looking at the files which they put on hold from long time.
Please make a Video on it🙏
Have your visa been granted in the meantime?