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I'm waiting for the howls of horror and outrage when governments put fuel tax on EV charging
What about when the government starts siphoning power from your plugged in car and charging you for it? 🤣😂
In the UK vehicle or tax is being applied next year.
@@tonysheerness2427 perhaps that'll all change when Labour get in
@@dps615 Labour? you mean the Uniparty .. which is guaranteed to retain power.
@@dps615 I would suspect Labour would increase it, they are money hungry.
One issue missing is I DON'T WANT MY HOUSE TO BURN DOWN,,
And I don’t want my kids to cough their guts up .
More than that I don't want the ground polluted or water from trying to extinguish them !
I have solved this problem, I was going to park far from the house. But my problem what if it starts the fire while we're in the car and we won't be able to open doors to get out? What will happen in a car accident? So, my decision is to wait until we have some statistics showing if certain batteries are safe. Until that is not happening I drive old diesel.
real men don't drive EV's. Chicks /simps car.
I've got a new one for you being shocked or electrocuted by it breaking news from yesterday : China’s EVs Hit by Major Scandal! Multiple Models Show Electric Leaks, BYD Causes Brain Hemorrhage in it you will see a man quickly exiting his car while shouting for help he ended up crawling on the floor and will probably paralyzed for the rest of his life with important brain damage too, gettting shocked by 400-500V DC leaking from the battery into the car frame won't do like AC instead it'll burn you inside and create an electrolysis of your blood which gives you the same effects decompression sickness would on deep divers, it's very bad
Surely EVs will be the first thing abandoned when there isn't enough electricity to keep the lights on?
In Australia we will pull the plug on Minister Bowen first. He is like a fan for blowing hot air about EV nonsense.
We already have power outages in hot weather (ACs) and in Melbourne a few weeks ago, the first really cold evening there was a power outage in some suburbs - was this the extra electrical load from all the new Revers cycle heat pumps to heat water and space heaters houses (Yep - getting rid of gas, going to be interesting.)
So EVers can look forward to EV Charging curfews on Hot days and cold days, because EVers will arrive home and expect to recharge the extra flat battery because when you use the Heater or AC in a n EV the battery drains extra fast.
Then Government will insist that if you own an EV, you must have home solar and extra large solar battery.
Otherwise Electricity demand is not going to be a surge after 5pm it is going to be an ALMIGHTY SPIKE all the way to 2am or 4am. Adding water heaters and car charging is going to need Tera Watts of storage - who pays?
Yeah thats right, the government in the UK will turn off the home chargers remotely.
No the car will be controlled by your local government department so on some days you won't even be allowed to open the doors let alone drive it. Your charging and distance will be controlled too so you can't go outside your allocated domain, call it a district and if you try the electrical police will pack you off for psychological retraining. Your future, if you accept there will be only a few of us left if Bill Gates gets his way, is to be controlled 100%.
The UK government wants a separate power supply coming into the house for EVs. This will allow the power companies to reduce charging when demand is high. Imagine getting up for work & your car hasn't charged because the government turned off your charger!
Keep up the great work exposing the BS lies and contradicting hypocrisy on EV traps,mate 👍.
Everyone on here needs to forward a link to this channel to their friends and family. The more of us that concentrate our efforts into bringing down this whole sham of Net Zero and Milk Floats, the better for all concerned. We the majority will win the day. Do it now; send a link to to at least one person, even if they already own a milk float.
Notice the use of the word ‘growing pains’. The EV industry still can’t accept there’s entire parts of the population that don’t want EVs.
BEV growing pains is really 'owning pains'
The fantasy persists that people are just waiting for cheap EV's with crappy range.
@@Withnail1969 since I learned the price of a battery pack replacement cost everytime I see an EV irl I search how much owners are in for >< Fiat 500 EV a small city car here's it's roughly 35'000USD (converted) the battery is 13'000USD, is someone buying a 30k car ready for a 13'000 bill ? I doubt it for my sportscar it's what I would pay the replace the complete engine and boost it to 700-900hp I also learned something even funnier or sadder, it's patethic range, they advertise 100-200miles..it's not at all 100 miles in best conditions but in cold weather and if you do highway more like 70 miles LOL
They only thing I have to worry about it the crappy cvt. But even with the extended warranty and service plan. My new subaru costs less than a standard model y with no warranty or service plan.
Road tax and registration tax is here for evs, some places need you to pay 4 years registration up front!!!
Cars and gas in Europe is 70% tax lol. That 13k battery is really only worth about 5k. That's why it only gets 100 miles
48% of "overall likely" for having EV as a sole vehicle is a shockingly big number of idiots...
Well, look at the number of people still wearing masks.
@@floxy20 🤣🤣🤣
You can't fix stupid! 😂😂😂
Just look at the US - how many voted for potato ice cream hair sniffer in 2020 and what a disaster it turned out to be! And we still have idiots who vote Democratic in 2024!!! 😂😂😂😂
I saw a retired newsreader moaning about having caught covid, who casually mentioned he'd been injected 6 times. Some people never learn.
@@floxy20 I wear KN95 all the time..to broom dusty places, spray paint or do chemical cleaning that's the one good thing I kept from the event ;) I took 3 jbs but not anymore and many are like me, they know it that's why the WHO wants to be able to overrule country and state laws and force mandate the next ones
You are doing a great job exposing this EV nonsense
The amount of money blown by governments on this stuff is criminal. Can you imagine how much better off we could be if the money was spent rationally?
All the new socialists do is buy votes with our money. Behaving rationally never enters their minds.
Bet the next move for governments will be to increase the cost for ICE owners.
Or take control of where and when you can drive.
See what happened in London. Under ULEZ rules you can't drive in London on certain days depending on number plate or certificates. They already push this BS.
Yes, they're going to hammer us ICE drivers with more fuel taxes, registration fees, etc.
@@t28mcd Like introducing ULEZ zones to keep you off the roads?
@@t28mcdthey already trying this in some parts of the world. I’ve vehicles getting ban or service charge to go into some areas
Government think tanks should have their vested interests investigated..?
💰💰💰amazing what this can achieve when confronted with it
Totally agree!
Government think tanks shouldn't exist
Unions are possibly the biggest donators to the Labor Party. Those unions have invested their members super into alternatives. Labor and unions are historically communistic sympathisers so who is making the most solar panels, evs etc etc. Follow the money.
I'm now 70 but still love driving. From the outset of the EV movement I said that the day I was forced to buy one would be the day I gave up driving. It doesn't matter too much to me as at my age who knows how much longer I will be able to drive but I feel for younger drivers who are going to be severely affected so keep up the good work informing us all of the drawbacks to EVs.
Most of the young people will just follow the BS and not wake up to what’s going on . When I say young it’s relative , I am half your age. I am talking people just starting out driving g and early 20’s . They will suck the ev’s up like soup because big daddy in the government told them to .
I'm in the same boat as you, and I'll be hanging on to my 6-yr-old Subaru until I'm no longer fit/able to drive.
Older people have the knowledge and wisdom. Being a coward dooms us all
We've recently acquired motability for my son who has ASD. We went to a Peugeot dealership. The guy who works there tried and tried to push an EV onto us. We were going to go for the Peugeot 3008. If we had chose the EV option, we wouldn't have to put a down payment on it. However, the petrol / hybrid option would cost us around £1200. He kept saying EVs are the future and I've been in the car industry for 45 years. He put us right off. Anyway, we're getting a Kia Sportage GT Line 1.6 Petrol in about a month or so. I can't wait.
EVs are the worst thing people with disabilities could have. My neighbour is permanently wheelchair bound. I can't imagine what would happen to her if an ev caught fire with her in it, she has to have a ramp to get in and it's happened that people who've been trapped have had to break out with brute force because none of the electric doors or windows would open (obviously). She would die, and yet Motability, the UK govt disability car provider is pushing evs.
😡
Car salespeople are the worst. Scares me off looking at cars.
The Peugeot dealership was an absolute pain in the A. Apparently the 3008 had a maximum range of 325 miles. When i asked the guy what's the real world range, he couldn't answer. Kia dealership were spot on. Can't fault them. Absolutely no push for an EV. Everything went smoothly. Get our car or I should say, my sons car albeit I'm driving it for him.
@@RemusKingOfRome Dealing with car salespeople are pretty easy. Recently I was in the market for a second hand car, before I even stepped into the dealership I told them exactly what I wanted, model, year, mileage, etc and how much I was willing to pay for it. Make sure they are aware you want the vehicle inspected by your own third party mechanic before purchasing and don't haggle, they try to haggle you more than you are willing to pay just walk away and try somewhere else.
As an engineer I would discourage anyone thinking of buying an EV.
68% considering an ev what a load of bollocks!
That survey was taken a fully woke leftist wankfest.
These stats about consideration are inflated. It’s highly likely that the bulk of respondents will say “Sure, I’m thinking about it.”. It’s easy to say and has no cost while making the respondent look thoughtful. I’d bet that half of those respondents were just being nice, but have no real intention to buy an EV.
Part of my consideration process includes weighing up the pros and cons of purchasing an ev. In light of the apparent cons I will 100% reject purchasing an ev.
In Canada where I am from EV rebates of up to $9500 depending on income are ending next year in March. Once these subsidies end undoubtedly there will be a massive negative impact on EV sales. We are also supposed to have 60% of all new vehicles sold zero emission by 2030 and 100% by 2035. I think all of the countries with these ridiculous mandates will end up like Cuba where people just keep their ICE cars going for as long as possible because they simply cannot afford these vehicles and don't want to buy a vehicle that depreciates far quicker than an ICE car.
I suspect that those batteries won't perform all that well in the Canadian winter ?
That's what the agenda is all about . Less car ownership = less freedom and more government control.
@@lukebable They don't, massive hit to range when it's any colder than 0 C. Around here we usually have a few weeks every winter at -40 C. Add in having to heat the cabin from charge that should be going toward your range and these things aren't viable for anything but short distance city driving during the winter. Probably need daily charging even with that little driving, meaning anyone who doesn't own a home will need to sit around for around 20 minutes at a charging station daily.
The technology for EVs just isn't ready yet, especially for colder countries. That doesn't seem to be stopping the ones who keep pushing the things, guess time will tell if they back off or double down. I suspect that only voting them out will get rid of these mandates, but that relies on there being someone on the ballot who isn't pushing for more EVs.
I don't think those mandates will come to fruition. Once a political party realises the landslide win that awaits them by turning those around, they will run on that platform and find some other big biz interest to line their pockets and that will be it.
Only take one western country to fall over and the rest will like a pack of cards.
Law can be canceled repealed and changed
I can honsetly say I predicted this downturn in interest some years back based on my own experience.
The more I learned about them, the less appealing they became. One thing was talking to an owner whom did the same regular country trip I did. When he told me what he had, I said that's the only car that will do the trip I do. He went on to explain it would do it because range is calculated at 80 KMH not 110 and there is a lot of fall off. further explained driving at night in hot or wet weather further declined range.
Then I learned about the horrific towing range, the insurance, limited servicing availability which they DO need and repair problems. I also calculated how much longer I would need to allow to get places and that regular trips further on would require an over night stop which would blow out any fuels savings on Motel costs.
The EVangelists downplay this as if people only ever drive around town or can have a 2nd car sitting round most of the year just to take on trips where the EV is useless.
I predicted that the more of these EV's out there, the more educated people would become about the drawbacks and the LIES and would not want them. People would know somone at work, a neighbour or get talking about them at a gathering and would learn the things like I had that are never talked about but are real drawbacks.
It's coming true exactly as I predicted. people are learning they are NOT cheap to run, they can add hours if not days to a trip, are useless towing unles it's across town ( maybe ) and they are anything but what they are cracked up to be.
People are learning and they are seeing how limited use these things are and do not fulfill 90% of the regular duties of the average versatile family car and therefore do not want them.
Predictable as sunrise.
Ten marks out of Ten for your comment. We need as much information like that as we can get to smash this scam and cancel it altogether.
Similar experience, my coworker was an early ev adopter and it literally wore him out, charging, cold weather issues, range anxiety, strange mechanical problems... He talked me out of it and it didn't cost me a dime 🤑💰
100% correct. I did the same looking into it as you AND I work for a car manufacturer at head office. I was offered an EV as a car and when I did my research it basically said the range could swing between 300 km and 480 km (spending on weather and highway to city driving). It’s never the weekday driving that’s an issue. It’s the weekends or holidays and I often do 300,400 km easy on a day trip. That’s running it to the wire for me that I am not prepared to accept. And in my country there’s many that do similar driving on weekends. This is why in large countries EVs are hitting a natural ceiling.
That report completely ignores the cost and difficulty of repairs. These were major concerns for Hertz in disposing of their EVs.
As well as 'very low residuals' which is accountant speak for 'loses money like a moulting chicken loses feathers'.....
Because people who rent a car are significantly more likely to crash than people driving their own vehicle. Teslas are expensive to repair due to using a megapress for their body parts, hence body parts are so much bigger. Other electric vehicles do not have this issue. Yes if a battery is damaged it is probably a write off but so is a car with a blown engine very often.
@@jenshvas7956 I've never seen data that supports your first supposition, all EVs are expensive to repair because the slightest scratch on the battery mandates the vehicle be written off. $5k will buy a new crate engine for an ICE vehicle. Show me a new car battery for that amount.
@@jenshvas7956 Just swap the engine you dont have to write them off.
@@jenshvas7956 You can get engines for cars at reasonable prices, a 'short' engine ( the cylinder block with pistons and crank ) is very reasonable. The main part of and EV is the battery, if slightly damaged the car is written off, that 'megacasting' was a stupid idea, most of the car is made from one piece and if damaged once again car is written off.
Love the channel mate 👍
The US Transportation Secretary, Pete Buttigieg, an Ultra wokist, was questioned on CBS’s ‘Face The Nation’ yesterday and looked very uneasy to explain why only EIGHT new charging stations have been built since he signed the legislation two years ago after he promised half a million new chargers by the end of the decade !!!
Does he not appear in the dictionary under the definition of useless
at the cost of US 7.5 billion dollars..........for 8 charging stations. The very definition of incompetence.
@@wazza33racer You mean money laundering.
10% for the Big Guy?
The corruption of the Biden regime knows no bounds
Brittain runs on vans NOT E/vans . When you consider price, payload , range, and the absolute terror of turning the heater on . Future my arse .
Worry about turning aircon on as well, everything on an EV runs from the battery
DHL use electric vans in my town but they will have charging stations at their depot, normally trades people don't
Why would charging an EV primarily via Gas, Oil and Coal power stations that aren't terribly efficient be better for the planet than running an ICE vehicle that is extremely efficient and has to pass emissions tests each year to prove it's roadworthy?
It's not, it's worse.
I remember seeing an analysis somewhere that calculated overall efficiency of EV’s versus ICE vehicles, taking all steps of power production, transmission and usage into account for each, and they found that EV’s are something like 10-20% more efficient than ICE vehicles. However, fuel tanks don’t “leak” energy, lose capacity or cease functioning all together in extremely high or low temperatures the way batteries do, so there’s also that to consider (on top of ridiculous charging times).
The EV mandates are based on average driver needs. If however you are not an average driver then the EV mandates are bad for the environment. I have an 11 year old ICE vehicle that has done in the region of 40,000 miles. I only do about 3000 miles a year now that I have retired. There is effectively no public transport where I live and a car is a necessity for some journeys as a result. I think I can easily get my car to last 20 years and still be in good roadworthy condition but the government push is to make it harder to keep using it and force me to replace it with an EV even though there are few public chargers in the area, I do not have a driveway and my house is set away from the road. At 20 years of age my car will never have reached that point of crossover where an EV is claimed to be better for the environment than an ICE powered car. A joined up plan would look at the needs of different sections of the motoring public and produce a plan that works for the economy, the environment and the motorist. What we have at the moment is a political stunt not an well engineered plan.
Coal/gas elec generation is probably producing 10 times the CO2 per vehicle mile than ICE. I read about this many years ago, and EnviroGroups/Gov't realized it was more costly for many reasons. Elec Transmission lines loose heaps, and at every Elec Substation and transformer, more is lost. Then more is lost in the charging process and the discharge.
However, if you had mostly hydro (24Hr elec) such as NZ or Norway, not a problem.
why talk when do not understand the topic? they are the same system (heat engine.) ones in the power plant are designed for peak usage, while your car works on whatever load you need at that moment, so almost never in the ideal range. also any stationary system could have better emission control than any moving one, as the stationary is not limited by size or weight at all. the major issue is the fat that it is a needless conversion. and transmission, not that the power plant is less efficient (much more efficient than most car engines actually, or a least could be better.)
''UK leasing company Zenith reveals that just over 2/3rds of EV drivers also have a petrol or diesel car. In addition, only 18 per cent of those surveyed use their EVs for longer trips over 60 miles''
even the 'charge at home' turbine hugging EV drivers dont have faith in their own product
90% of ev owners I know also have atleast 2 ice cars
@@RipliWitani it's a fashion statement they can never afford
We are just back from Florida Orlando and after talking to a lot of Americans who drive to Disney they can drive 1000 miles or more how many times would they have to stop to charge up adding countless hours to their journeys
Oh but wait. The EV fans will tell you they can charge overnight at the hotel - and fight over the 10 chargers for 100 rooms.
Please don’t support Disney. They’re putting woke propaganda in every children’s movie.
@@xr6lad If you drive ICE you do not need a hotel to charge at..
@@chrissmith2114I know.
When driving 1000 miles from Orlando to Philadelphia you need to charge 4 times for a total charging time of 1h 7min with a modern EV.
I loved the towing test of the CT towing a camper van. 85 miles range, then you unhitch charge for 1.5 hours and costs $37.50 US, rehitch and away you go. That would go well in Australia?
So you would be charging for longer than you are driving//towing.
Hahaha
I've always thought that public interest in EVs has been wildly exaggerated. It hasn't diminished, it was never there in the UK.
I am waiting for my house insurance to ask if I have an ev - and when I get a discount for saying ‘no’ I will be very happy!,
But you won’t. You’ll get a premium added to cover those who do have EV’s.
I used to be quite neutral about EVs. But it's the bloody government and doomsday climate change cultists that have turned me into a rabid hater. Why couldn't they just leave us the hell alone?
Same for me.
Im neutral, I actually like some of them. The tech is cool, the performance is cool. I'm more a fan of the contemporary or traditional looking car, truck or suv style EV's though. Range, charging and infrastructure need work. I would be open to buying one. But i'm not a fan of having it forced on people, especially if the infrastructure isn't ready for it.
@@purpletigerracing7087 I do think some of them are cool, it's the lies and obfuscation that really bugs me.
@@Scoots1994 yeah, I've watched quite a few of these videos from various content creators. I think I watched one with a towing test of the Cybertruck. Can't remember if it was Hoovie's Garage or TFL. I think it was Hoovie's video taking the DeLorean to the Car Wizard. But someone said something about the range available wasn't the range advertised.
Now what I'm saying is generalized over the broad spectrum. I have no research or data to confirm or deny my theory or opinion.
Here goes.
So the Tesla whatever states a range of 300 miles per charge. Not bad, pretty standard for a charge. But when you see 300 and oer charge I'm assuming full charge 100%. Tesla and it seems all of them only want you to charge up to 80%. And then they throttle the charge. So if youvwant 100% it costs you time, at least on the road.
So realistically, you're getting 240 miles range on the manufacturers recommended full charge. Not horrible either, but as you said, misleading.
Then you have using the F150 Lighting or Cyber Truck for towing. The Ford wasn't good, the Cyber Truck was ok, in terms of range. But I think the same video states the CT needs some work with its software as it couldn't reliably recalculate for charge route planning while towing.
So, there's misleading the public, and not being able to compete on a rudimentary level of playing field.
I'd never buy a Cyber Truck. Just entirely too out there style wise. And in terms of a truck doing truck stuff, I'll keep my 2017 F150 5.0. Carries 5 people comfortably. 1500 lbs payload in the bed. 8 or 9k lbs towing. Over 600 miles per tank at highway speeds with the 36 gallon tank. 21 mpg average through hilly terrain. 22 mpg out and back to Colorado. Both from Lorain, OH.
Eat ze bugs
..."cooled" what a polite way of flagging a market collapse. More subsidies on the way ?
More subsidies for those can afford an EV. Those that can't afford an EV pay for those that can, yet again.
'Cooled' is like describing what the iceberg did to Titanic...
Costlier insurance, reduced tire life, and fire hazards are just a few of the reasons people reject EV's. Now you have to add copper theft at charging stations.
Cheap insurance, same tire life, no fire hazards. I love my EV. I can charge it with power from the roof for nearly nothing.
@@gerbre1 Absolute BS mate
@@voxac30withstratFacts about my EV my friend.
who wants to drive a ticking time bomb...
Not time bomb. It's a tricky random fire starter.
Who even wants to own a ticking financial time bomb
@@mddell24 lol
I don't want to drive a ticking time bomb fossil car like the one who caught fire on the main street in my town.
@@gerbre1 lol
I recently purchased a used 2019 Mercedes E450 which is equipped with a 6 cylinder engine fueled by gas coming from a 21.1 gallon (79.87 liter) fuel tank. A few days ago I took the vehicle on a road trip for the first time. My round trip total distance traveled was 428 miles (688 kilometers). My highest miles per gallon was 29.7 (47.79 kilometers) while using the air conditioner. I did not have to fill up my gas tank prior to my return trip. When I returned to my home I still had in excess of 1/4 tank of fuel left. My range meter stated I could still travel another 228 miles (376 kilometers) prior to needing to fill the gas tank. At a minimum I would have had to stop and charge an EV twice and more than likely 3 times. The city I went to was in the Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas area. If you have never been there it is an area that has highways everywhere that is filled with literally thousands of cars. To think I could whip into a charging station find an empty charger and be on the road quickly is totally unrealistic. If I had an electric car I wouldn't even have attempted the trip. Where I live EVs are unrealistic and impractical.
Hybrid vehicles: 3,474 fires per 100K sales
Petrol vehicles: 1,529 fires per 100K sales
Electric vehicles: 25 fires per 100K sales
The discounts on new EVs in the uk are insane and they still are slow to sell. Here’s a little example Brand new Peugeot E2008 £40,750 reduced to £23,992 a £16,758 reduction. There is plenty of stock and lots of discounts especially in the smaller models that private buyers would be buying if they where ICE.
2008 is an old low range model. It's heavily discounted but not selling because it's no good.
Now price a Tesla Y at 23k and see what would happen.
@@CatsMeowPaw nothing would change. Because of the second hand battery lottery. There will be no second hand market for EVs similar to ice until that is sorted out. Currently no pro EV people even want to talk about that , and until it is sorted EVs are effectively mostly a one owner product. Thus creating a massive waste issue which is absolutely not green and makes the ice vehicle even more green in comparison than it already is.
Tesla aren't selling lol. Their Chinese batteries are failing
battery longevity, range and insurance ..time too wait....amen
The main reason of avoiding EV's should be the unavoidable shortage of copper. This will finally push its market value through the roof and has a devastating effect on all that runs on electricity.
Wouldn't that make an EV full of copper a good investment.
@@Apjooz Yes it would😂 By the way, same applies for Lithium, Nickel and Cobalt. If any battery innovation also relies on minerals that are not readily available we're doomed.
Power providers push for EVs to even out peak loads. In many countries there is a surplus of electricity at night that EVs can tap into. If they can sell electricity at night then the day rate can be cheaper.
@@jenshvas7956 It does not change the need for an upgraded grid. Your wall socket cannot provide enough power.
In earlier days of EV's, I may have considered one. But, like any new shiny gizmo that hits the market, I waited for a while to see how it would go. Like many shiny gizmos, I've decided to pass. Shiny new gizmos rarely make it through that filter.
early days of ev? how old are you? ev have been around since 1890.
I've considered buying an FEV in 2017, only thing was lack of hydrogen gas station.
I've been considering buying a BEV since the early 2000s. However, technology is not there yet. I expect somewhere after 2030 it may be feasible (not guaranteed).
@@svr5423 Yes, that's my point. Wait for the technology to mature. We're not there yet.
The worst part of owning an EV is charging at home. Who could sleep soundly while your 1,000 pound lithium battery is charging through the night? Who wouldn't be running into their garage every hour or so to see how it's going and to see if there are any problems? And who would want to turn their home into a 24/7 service station? Mark Twain who wrote Tom Sawyer who tricked his friends into doing his summer chores by making them look like such fun would have gotten a good laugh about the EV promoters doing the same to the public with home charging.
Have plenty smoke alarms fitted.
My biggest problem with EV is that I can not repair it. I can tear down and rebuild my ICE motors by myself.
Of all the reasons... what exactly are you going to have to rebuild?
@@TonyRule You aren't being serious are you? If a billion dollar corporation can't afford the repairs why would a regular guy want to take that risk... just google "Hertz is ditching 20,000 electric cars, citing repair expense - so why is it costly" a few years ago you fanbois were saying you NEVER had to repair them.. ever..
@@rrnonya5472 You completely miss the point. The OP is talking about rebuilding the MOTOR - literally the only part in the entire vehicle that is *less* failure prone than its equivalent in an ICE powered vehicle.
@@TonyRule No YOU completely missed the point. The OP said 'I CAN tear down and rebuild my ICE motors by myself'. Meaning they have the option of doing that if need be, nice try though.
@@secondchance6603 So in your estimation they're lamenting the loss of that headache? Muppet.
Our local supermarket (Kent UK) has four charging points, rarely used from what I see. But the other night saw two guys sitting in their electric MG @ 12.30 am, wow what a life !
Last week an ev caught fire mid morning while charging, luckily it did burn the store down.
Our second car is a Daihatsu Cuore of 2005. Brilliant little car. Seats 4, 700 kg light. No need to replace it with an EV at all, even though that would be the socalled reasonable use case.
I had a 2007 scion tc. Amazing car only problem is it would burn oil.
It got totalled by an uninsured driver and I was forced to buy a new car. The used car market is a joke, 25k for 10 year old car with 120k miles. Lol
The fact that in the UK, manufacturers sales have to be at least 22% EVs (a % that increases to 100% by 2035) means that they will be forced to restrict the sales ICE vehicles to avoid the fines of £10k per vehicle. Idiocy 😂
There may not be all that many EVs in future. An international mining conference in Perth a couple of years ago showed that, even if all proposed lithium mines came to full production by 2030, there would still be a shortfall of 50% compared to political demands. From the University of Michigan, to meet the requirements of electrification of the global vehicle fleet, the shortage of copper would require 6 large new copper mines annually for decades. 40% of that new output would be required for grid upgrades. How long does it take to get a mining permit against all the environmental backlash?
It's called war and very few people know about it.
Won't be an issue,they'll fast track huge new mines everywhere and anywhere.We have to have all these new mega mines and processing facilities to save the planet.
My 26 yo GM is still running well..
My old Mazda too. Guna keep it until the wheels fall off.
Mine is starting its' 26th year as of this month.
My GM daily driver in summer, is turning 50 years old this year.. And it's very environmentally friendly (it has lots of critters living in it) :)
There is nothing more environmentally friendly than not buying a bunch of new stuff that will need replacing again within 5-10 years. You would think we would have learnt this lesson with the crappy appliances being made since the mid 1990's
I had to laugh at an electrician REMOVING an EV charger where home owner didn't want any trace of the installation left, inside or out. They weren't convinced by the spurious claim that it added £5000 to their house value. (SOCA ELECTRICAL)
Kia Ora Simon, Financial guru Patrick Boyle brought up another reason people are not buying EVs, namely the constant hype about new and improved batteries and chargers. Why should people buy an EV now when a better one is around the corner? Why buy a soon to be obsolescent car that will have zero resale value? Why waste excessive time now charging an EV when in the future it will supposedly take much less time? This is the folly of adopting a technology whose time has not yet come!
Yes,every day or so the electric w!!nker tells us about the latest game changing development about to come out.
Initiatives to buy will only last while the EV market is small, so it does not cost the government much money.this will soon change From 1 April 2025, drivers of electric and low emission cars, vans and motorcycles will need to pay vehicle tax in the same way as drivers of internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles do. This change will apply to both new and existing vehicles and will ensure all drivers begin to pay a fairer tax contribution.
I’ll consider buying an EV when every government official has been forced to drive them for at least 10 years first. Let’s see how many of these idiots want to lead by example.
They aren't capable of leading anything in any way.Not a good yardstick either considering they won't be paying for them and they'll just chuck them away every couple of years and jump into a new one.
I saw a situation to where the electric car was on fire. The local fire department knew of the dangers of the toxic smoke and wouldn’t touch it and said let it burn out. It may take 10 or 12 hours, but the locals weren’t about to allow their community to be polluted with clouds of toxic way, so some guy decided to get a front end loader pick it up and go dump it in the lake not realizing that now the lake is absolutelycontaminated with toxic metals and of course, all the fish died floated to the top it stank for about three weeks until the fish rotted and sank back down to the bottom, but the lake is dead now it’ll probably take a couple of decades for it to come back
As to why we aren't readily adopting EV's, JD Power didn't mention that we don't want our garages and houses burnt down from runaway lithium-ion battery fires. (Note: I'm not against batteries, I have a solar set-up for all the power outages we experience in Maine's harsh winters, with 4 LiFePo4 100ah batteries wired in parallel 12v feeding a 120v inverter right next to me here in my living room.)
BTW, Governments bullying the people is what they do best, (other than making endless wars, but there I go again, speaking from my American perspective). Never forget, tyrants will be tyrants. . .it's what they do.
There are 1,4 million EVs on the road in Germany and 0,7 million in Norway. How many houses are burning?
@@gerbre1 Prayerfully and hopefully none are burning (at this time or ever) but the risk / reward is low and I value my safety as a priority, as any normal person should. If my home did burn down due to an EV I guarantee one thing... you would not care, not one bit... so, I'm good, and I'll pass on EVs
@@rrnonya5472If you are afraid of batteries I recommend to get rid of laptops, tablets and smartphones also. Or just accept batteries in your home and drive an EV with even safer LFP battery.
Forgot about new emission standards here in Oz.
What would a 'low carbon', ‘net zero’ economy mean and what benefits, economic, social, environmental, might we see? Nobody ever explains.
That's easy. It means that your grand children may actually be able to live a comfortable life too...
Battery lifespan, repair costs, depreciation, range anxiety, hidden production costs & affects, etc ETC. Who paid for the Survey?
So nobody is concerned about them going off like firecrackers every 5 minutes then? How strange.
'Firecracker' implies something moderate. They actually are more like incendiary devices of the kind that would have made Hermann Goering rub his hands with glee if he had some for the Luftwaffe in 1940.
Hybrid vehicles: 3,474 fires per 100K sales
Petrol vehicles: 1,529 fires per 100K sales
Electric vehicles: 25 fires per 100K sales
So government will tighten up the legislation again. You will be happy…
The EV ownership proposition: Your insurance may not pay when your house burns down.
*SCARY* as per "China observer" here on yt customers of EV's are getting electrocuted, cars are leaving voltage omg it gets worse.
I may buy an EV when its widely known to be repairable at a reasonable cost. In other words - not in this decade
I'd say you might have to wait until the 12th of never.
Not in your lifetime.
The stupidity of electric tractors and earthmoving equipment came to light the other day when I was servicing our little Kubota B2420. If you take out the diesel engine and radiator there is bugger all room for a decent sized battery pack and an electric motor. By my estimate by the time you get the battery pack in with the controllers and wiring you would be lucky to get 4 hours work time. On the diesel we can get a day in with less than 20L of fuel being used. Maybe with hydraulic excavators on construction sites they will run an extension cable to charge it up! 😂😂😂
I am enjoying Havana syndrome. Keeping my old car running.
EV & Intelligence ? do those two actually go together? and also does anyone else think the cybertruck looks like one of those cardboard cut out cars for kids
Over 47% Overall 'Likely'.......'Likely'' is like all those other words, 'Could', 'May', 'Might', 'Possibly'! Lol!
@@jonathanrouane9192 Re: "If only the cats could have talked"!
Lol! We have gotten a different 'Tail', (Pun intended)!
My son got to experience the spectacle of the Indianapolis 500 yesterday.
I seriously doubt that watching 33 silent EVs going down the front stretch will be the same as what he experienced yesterday!!!
Cyber rust truck
You are such a eye opener. you have the very Best channel on the platform. All my best from the US. Jim
Even if charging stations were giving away fee charging. I do not want to have to wait around and charge. What a hassle. Most stations are not covered. So what if it is raining hard or snowing. And would any single woman want to have to charge late at night?
Your hard work is paying off.
Its educational.
Safe & Effective! Remember that one? Run away, Run away!
Nearly everyone I know wouldn't even take one for free. They are ticking time bombs in a very literal sense. I cannot afford a fire proof bunker to store my molotov cocktail of a car inside.
You'd think that every now and then they'd announce some scheme or policy that actually makes sense, works and improves anything in any way, just to throw us off.
Maybe I'm just projecting.
My question is, how much more pollution has been created by these lithium batteries, from start to finish, than all the co2 emissions in the same period of time, than they were supposed to prevent. Toxic fumes, sinking ships, carparks burned to the ground and then there is the digging the stuff up bebore the process of manufacturing and retooling for a new car world.😕
Who are they surveying? Those percentages are very suspect. Screw the planet.
You love your 3 F's. How true you are.
The other day I watched a Sony Pictures DVD written and directed by Chris Paine called “Who Killed the Electric Car”. This was about a law that was brought out in California in the early 90’s stating that a certain percentage of cars bought in the State had to be an electric cars. Honda and Toyota, reluctantly it has to said, brought out an electric model to comply with the new law. Then General Motors sensing they were being left behind brought out the EV1. This proved very popular with some drivers in California, including quite a few Hollywood stars. Tom Hanks and Mel Gibson leased one. However, big oil and the car manufacturers themselves were not happy and slowly but surely got California to whittle down the laws until California State government finally gave up the idea. General motors immediately stopped making the EV1 and started to claim back the leased cars. The cars were taken out into the desert somewhere and crushed. EV1 drivers gathered together and held a mock funeral for the EV1 lead by guy playing the bagpipes. If the same thing were to happen today I wonder the present EV crowd would do the same thing?
The fine for parking in a disabled spot is more than half the fine for parking in an EV charging spot
There will almost certainly be an end of life date put on all cars soon. An outright ban on any vehicle being used after a set age would be the best way to impose a car ban.
Also an end to repairing cars over a certain age too.
Compared to April 2023, hybrid sales were up 194.5 per cent to 16,466 sales, while plug-in hybrid (PHEV) sales were up 138.5 per cent to 1300 sales.
Bev hardly changed. Sinking fast.
EV sales up 29% worldwide in 2023 and forecast to go up 29% in 2024. What is your point?
Great idea educate us to buy something we don't want. Can anyone say government tyranny.
Great reporting, thanks Simon.
Only good for local traffic in good weather. I can't replace gas yet.
Even though it's summer here in the US, I haven't forgotten how during a sub zero (F) cold snap last Jan there was a debacle of dozens of EVs in the Chicago area stranded at charging stations, having to be towed away, because they would not take a charge in the cold, and Chicago is far from being the coldest part of the country.
I have transcribed focus groups and individual interviews for the auto industry. The last two studies that were scheduled were cancelled (at least on my end). I think this says a lot about the marketing approach of the industry struggling to know where to go, what to do.
Mass EV adoption with the current technology would be a disaster for our society, environment and economy. Give it ten years and this may change, but too many problems today for mass adoption.
No. We invented evs in the 1850s and abandoned them for this reason. Jay Leno has some of the earliest evs made. Some made in 1900!!
Hi Simon, it's all good news, long may it continue.
Why dont petrol stations have a charging station. May be EV fire and petrol dont mix
Hmmmm... They actually do in many places....
Hybrid vehicles: 3,474 fires per 100K sales
Petrol vehicles: 1,529 fires per 100K sales
Electric vehicles: 25 fires per 100K sales
I'm not looking for a second vehicle. My next will be a seventh, along with a daily driver CUV that sees double duty as a runabout on my tree farm, two classic trucks, a classic SUV, a sporty car, and a work truck. I'm still leaning toward a PHEV rather than a full BEV. 40 miles would be enough range for most workdays to be fully EV and the engine and range are still there for the weekends. An example: I foster/hospice dogs and transport them for several foster based organizations. Most of them are broken into 60-80 mile legs. If I am 15 miles from where one starts that means potentially a 95 mile trip with another 75 miles back with loses getting to/from the interstate. That's less than a half tank with an ICE or PHEV, regardless of weather, but could be a hassle in a pure BEV.
Inevitable now happening: sales being hit as EV's becoming more expendive to lease/PCP because residual values plummeting.
Finance houses are taking big hits as vehicles coming off contract sell for way below projected values, if at all
Result has been "Look EV version its same monthly payment as an ICE!" crap
Yes, EV on a 5 year term, 0% APR snd contribution, ICE on 4 years, 8% APR & no bung
Utterly desperate BS
You should add a fourth F: Force. It's what governments will use to prevent people from having the ICE alternatives that they prefer.
And, to further concentrate the mind of potential EV purchasers, VED (the old road tax) will have to be paid from April 2025 on all EVs here in the UK.
When the power grid collapses you will be screwed. Gasoline or Diesel work now!
my petrol car was my backup power source during the winter where outages where expected due to reliance on russian gas.
provides heat and enough power for laptop and smartphone so I can keep working.
When you run out of fossil fuels.... Then you will be properly fucked.....
In the early days of EV all people had was the hype, but now a lot of that hype has been contradicted by real world data.
Well they should use USBC port to charge the EVs. Atleast it can slow charge through portable battery or power Bank.
75kw? How long would that take?
@@robertedwards1543 a very long time possibly lasting 4 generations.
@@robertedwards1543 Surprised a RUclipsr hasn't tried (or maybe I haven't seen it); would be an interesting video to see if an EV even could be charged with USB-C and if it can, how low can you drop the wattage before it won't charge?
@@robertedwards1543 I was told by BEV evangelists that "charging duration does not matter".
I live in the San Diego area near the city of El Cajon. From April to October, they have a Wednesday Night Car Show for pre-1973 vehicles. Last Wednesday, some EVangelist was driving up and down the street with his Tesla Cyber Truck. I think he was trying to make a statement. The only thing I got out of it was how ugly and impractical it looked.
Cheers,
I feel as though there is another "thought" behind "mandatory" EV's. Experts says the electrical grid could not handle all that power need. If we all had EV's in the US, we would be experiencing rolling blackouts everywhere. That would mean that driving would have to be "moderaterated." Charging would be limited and the government would tell You when You can charge and drive your car. Be miserable and under the thumb of bungling, intellectually challenged bureaucrats. (That's who runs our country now). Trump said it the best. If you want one, have it. No mandates, you are free to choose the car of your choice.
In the last two years ICE sales in Australia have gone from 89% of all vehicle sales down to 78%, and EV sales have gone from just over 2%, to 9%. EVs and hybrids combined have gone from 11% to 22%. Yeah - what a reversal.
Internal combustion is going the way of the steam engine. Tearing molecules apart is at best 30% efficient in getting wheels moving. An electric motor will always outperform any ICE technology, not only in efficiency but in power to weight ratio and torque. Moving electrons around is the only clean and sustainable way of powering ground transportation.
Finally someone making sense in here....
@@jenshvas7956 Thank you. this MGUY and his supporters are in fact a marginal set of people, unable or unwilling to accept the inevitable change away from burning fossil fuels to get along the road. They are blind to the positive experiences of the increasing millions of EV owners such as myself who tell it how it is.
. In the first four months of 2024, EV deliveries are up 32.3 per cent to 31,662.
Your work on RUclips is great!
Thank you for your viewer-friendly shirts!
My teen boys, the exact demograph EV's should be an easy sell too both prefer petrol cars - says it all really
Hybrid vehicles: 3,474 fires per 100K sales
Petrol vehicles: 1,529 fires per 100K sales
Electric vehicles: 25 fires per 100K sales
The whole point of mandating them and making practical cars increasingly difficult to manage was to eliminate consumer choice in the matter. Glad to see their scheme isn't working so well.
We don’t need stranded assets, or the need to COPE with significant changes in how we interact with our modes of transport.