Melisandre meets Daenerys Targaryen
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2017
- Melisandre tells Daenerys Targaryen about the prophecy of the "Prince that was promised".
She tells her that Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen have both a role to play in the Great War.
Tyrion is to write a letter to Jon Snow persuade him to come and meet Daenerys at Dragonstone
Game Of Thrones Season 7 Episode 2
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"Your grace, your translation is not quite accurate--because it won't matter in season 8." - Missandei
Omg lol
lmfaooooo
This comment is better written than the GoT finale.
Hahahaha
Why not? Isn't Arya a princess?
It's very crazy to see all these characters together after 6 seasons not knowing each other.
Messandre, Grey Worm and the mother of dragons have known each other for a long time by season 6.
i kinda of like when tv shows do this, have different group of characters that almost don't interact and are in different storyline, and later on have they meet each other makes me excited to hope and wait to see them interacting, almost like a crossover
@@11more40 it’s almost like watching the Marvel movies
@@11more40 just bad writing.
@@11more40 i hate that but got was an exception bcuz each storyline was equally interesting unlike stranger things or some other show i always like one more than the other
He also forgot to mention that it was Ned Stark, his father, who spared her and her unborn child.
Exactly :)
He wasn't there for that though
Liam robertson who
How would she know
Kris Smith Jon
My favorite part about this scene is that Missandei corrects Dany's translation, and Dany lets her. A lesser ruler, like Cersei or Joffrey, would've been offended by the interruption and maybe even punished the person, but Missandei speaks with such confidence because she knows that Daenerys respects her and her opinion. It really shows how connected Dany is to her people and how different she is from previous and present rulers. Such solid characterization that got shucked out the window
Dany was also surrounded by "yes men" and "yes women" ever since her days in the Dothraki Sea proclaiming her as some kind of Messiah. Over time, this is reinforced and boosts her ego to the point of having a god complex. Even her closest lover - the honorable-to-a-fault Jon Snow - couldn't reassure her with genuine, good-faith reassurances that she and she alone was the queen he chose, willingly. Dany's suspicions were right; many in Westeros would never accept her, for good reason.
Remember, Westeros people remember the Targaryens, especially the latter rulers, as cruel, monstrous, and insane. If Adolf Hitler had a daughter - no matter how genuinely kind, thoughtful, intelligent, or empathetic she was - came to Germany and wanted to assume power, wouldn't you think the German people would have a legitimate right to be suspicious or reject her, given her father was legitimately insane? Consider the broader perspective.
The characterization was right on point. With Jorah, Dario, and Varys dead, and with Missandei, Jon Snow, and Tyrion out of sight during the Battle of Kings Landing, Dany was alone riding her dragon when she saw the Red Keep. Nobody to advise her. Nobody to coax her out of the madness that was always there. Nobody to reassure her to do the right thing. She had every chance to do the right thing. Ultimately, she didn't. Above all the people who loved her, above her sense of duty to those that trusted her and her will to "break the wheel", it was power she truly wanted. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. She gave in to her worst instincts. At her core, what Dany cared about more than ANYTHING else was touching the Iron Throne. Jon absolutely made the right choice, even if it would haunt him personally for the rest of his life.
As Master Aemon (Targaryen) said himself: "Love is the death of duty." Jon Snow willingly gave up his title of King in the North to serve the greater good. Dany willingly gave up everything and everyone that had ever loved to pursue her one true love: the Iron Throne. Jon Snow is ice: cold, hard, uncomfortable but always true. Danaerys Targaryen is fire: passionate, intense, and warm, but lethal if not kindled and harnessed correctly.
Missandei was more of an assistant then a handmaiden. Not quite a Vice President, but an important advisor nonetheless.
@@brooklynbud1138 Best summary I’ve seen. Very well said. No person is simple or perfect. All have flaws and gray areas, some acknowledge it and learn from them. Others like Daenery’s let it consume them and self-annihilate. Tragic like many, history repeats itself if gone unchecked.
@@brooklynbud1138 I normally wouldn’t read comments this long but this one caught my attention
Not only was she no different, she was far worse even than Cersei.
Cersei was guilty of megalomania. Danaerys was also a megalomaniac, but deluded herself into believing she was some sort of savior who alone could rid the world of "evil" by killing literally everyone.
Gods, Melisandre's valyrian sounds so soothing to the ear. I don't even know if its good, but I just know that she's speaks smoothly. It sounds foreign, exotic, but regal all at the same time. Beautiful fantasy language. And when she reverts back to common tongue, it actually feels like the character's secondary language. This may be a credit to the actress. That, or english may well be her actual secondary language. It probably is, she is too convincing.
The actress is German, so English is her second language. I agree, her high Valyrian sounds great.
@@kitty_s23456 *Dutch
@@steampunknoodles dank u wel for the correction 😊
@@kitty_s23456 Welcome
Indeed! I love how the producers didn't create the High Valyrian as a copycat of English in terms of syntax. For instance at 0:38 when she presents herself the name is put before the rest of the sentence and not the other way around like it would be in English. It's very well done.
Little surreal to still see dialogue and characterizations this solid so close to the final act
s7 was trash already, it just wasnt that obvious since it wasn't the end. s7 e6 was probably the worst written shitfest in history of tv
@@trackanalysis6369 don’t forget the trash ass session 8
Except Missandei's comment, that was stilted as fuck
Notice how Missandei teach native high valyrian on how the prince in high valyrian is noun with out gender lmao how is that even possible is Daenerys got brain tumor or something?
@@user-gi7cn7ol7w isn't high valyrian different from daenerys' mother tongue? modern english speaker doesn't know shakespear's english perfectly either.
Dani’s face when Tyrion says he’s an excellent judge of character. ❤️❤️
Any man who must say "I am an excellent judge of character" is no true excellent judge of character
Melisandre’s pronunciation in High Valyrian here was so good I can't stop watching it
Right... Me too
It's All gorgeous ♥️tnx
She actually pronounced a few words incorrectly, but her accent is great nonetheless.
@@NicoNunaki which One's in HIGH VALERYIAN....
@@Morganasnotarobot0 She says "doralaris" for Prince which is wrong, the correct word in High Valyrian would be "darilaros"
Dany: knock knock
Jon: who’s there?
Dany: Ben
Jon: Ben who?
Dany: Ben D Knee
Jon: 😑
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😆😆😆
This made me so angry that I shot my dog and my two nieces with an air gun and I still don't feel like I've calmed down
But the fact and true is Dany bend knee for Jon snow because he was a rightfull male heir to the throne💯🤣
Also Jon: You Are my queen
Daenerys should have never left the Essos/Meereen. She rose from beggar to a Khaleesi to a Queen, and she was beloved by a lot of her subjects because she tried to do what she thought was right, particularly as it came to slavery. She reignited her own dynasty. Trying to take the Iron Throne was a mistake. She went from being viewed in a positive light as "Mhysa" and the Breaker of Chains to simply a Targaryen conqueror. RIP plot/character development :(
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her mistake was her western advisors all failed her-she should have taken the throne the day she arrived and then could have unified the country to fight against the whites.
Ive always said she shouldve just ruled the east. It was better suited for the person she was... Westeros was toxic and corrupted
It's the way the books were going anyways so meh. Targa
She only did all of that because her dream was taking back her family’s kingdom in Westeros. As she said, Essos was not her home, but as it turned out her home did not want her.
I remember how much hope and expectations I STILL had for this series when this scene aired... oh, well...
Regardless of the ending. Its still the best series ever made thus far.
@@user.0704 nah, lmao.
What did you want to happen?
Hope is the first step on the road to dissappointment.
May Encore Sequel🔥 Game Of Thrones👑 Begin 🔥🗡️⚔️🗡️❄️
One of my favorite scene of Melisandre. She was fanatical and burnt non-believers as sacrifices; after losing faith from unfulfilled visions and regaining it from resurrecting Jon she is more humble
Well, I can't give here that pass, after watching her give birth to a demon and then burning that child to death. That was it for me with her!
What is funny, is that the vision she has is supposed to be the song of ice and fire, Jon Snow is the Prince of the vision, and she actually thinks so during this clip, she just CHOOSES not to correct them because she wants "Breaker of Chains" to ally with him so he can defeat the white walkers.
@@deathwrow9652 doesnt even matter cuz arya kills the night king anyway
"I believe you have a role to play...."
Yeah, until these dumbass of showrunners decided in the season 8 that the prophecy and all the scenes that was made about it before were useless. My poor Melisandre, the narrative arc of your character has been so much not respected....
Her role was just to help in great war. Sometimes fate isn't what we always expect.
D.B. and David really screwed up. It angered the most they ruined Daenerys Targaryen and destroyed her character arc and worst... Had her killed off.
@@danielwilliamson6180 George rr Martin was the one who made Daenerys go crazy, he’s said that’s how his books were meant to finish too! The problem is the show runners got offered Star Wars so rushed GOT last couple seasons so they could jump onto Star Wars
@@jordanwilliams1515 I fucking hate the ending and Dany going crazy.
Well, this scene is a good indicator that there was more to her actions than we've really seen on screen.
“And I am an excellent judge of character” didn’t age very well for Tyrion
Daenerys should have never left the East, Tyrion once told her “perhaps u should remain here where u can do the most good”
Yeah. It was clearly shown Westeros was not her place to be.
Tyrion's reaction to hearing about his old friend: Jon Snow going from bastard to Lord Commander & finally King in The North is simply priceless :)
I just really wish that Tyrion could've told Danearys right than & there that Ned Stark was completely against Robert Baratheon's attempt to assassinate both her & her unborn child :(
She probably knows. Barristan told her that.
Hope too
How would Tyrion know? He was not on the SC at the time
Tyrion did not know that. Varys did. He was the only one in both rooms. He chimed in to mention Stannis but not Ned
"The Prince or Princess who was promised, will bring the dawn"
D&D S8: Brrrrrrrrrrrrr
Dani should absolutely know this. One of her most famous lines is... "High Valyrian is my mother tongue". But in this scene, it almost seems as if she knows little to nothing of her own language.
English is many people’s mother (and ONLY) tongue and they can’t tell the difference between their, they’re and there or it’s and its or your and you’re. Say “pacifically”. There’s so much more.
Yeah she had a good education but it’s her “mother tongue” while she has spent her entire life speaking a dozen devolved variants of it. There is evidence that Valyrian culture did have a patriarchal aspect so it wouldn’t surprise me if this tiny little grammar mistake could be missed by her.
Also, she probably learned high Valyrian like third hand fleeing across Essos. If she had been taught by old school Targs in King’s Landing or even as a scholar in Valyria I’d think that a bad mistake but she’s not.
Missabdei on the other hand, while a slave, is a translator by career to a very rich man living around near old Valyria. She probably had access to much more expensive education and materials.
This is a classic "Well, as you know, Bob"
A lot of people don't know their mother langauge as well as they think. Language change and so do meanings. Also, AFAIK, Missandei is a linguist.
Dany kind of forgot her mother tongue
I disagree… anyone who speaks any language can misinterpret a statement … we Americans do it all the time… especially when a message isn’t str8 forward and obvious but cryptic and loosely translated
The Prince who was promised doesn’t quite matter at all. All you have to do to beat the Night King is move your dagger from your left hand to your right hand. He’ll let you do that, and he’ll even hold you within arms reach so you can do it more easily. His army is irrelevant. They’ll allow you to run past all of them and kill their leader. If only Azor Ahai knew that, then he never would’ve killed his lover to make Lightbringer and beat the Others. He would’ve just practiced dropping and catching his dagger.
Also jumping. Very important to be a good jumper.
Maybe that was also how they won the last time, but then invented the whole story because the truth was too embarrasing.
At this point, given the series finale - I'm back to believing that Rhaegar was Azor Ahai reborn all along - his death fucked the prophecy and left the world to its own devices.
@@laurajohnson833 considering rhaegars actions that seems unlikely.
Jacket On, Jacket Off hahahhahahah
D&D: "They expected us to make a great story, so we made a trash story to subvert expectations."
exactly what they were thinking... freaging lunatics
@@jeffescanto Well I'm happy that they subverted their own expectation by making every studio in Hollywood blacklist them, probably forever or after they remake S7/8 out of their own pockets 🤣
Imagine if D&D were in charge of the MCU project which is infinity war and endgame they would kill Thor while he was doing his hammer and made Peter Quill(Starlord) the villain
"The prince who was promised will bring the dawn."
"You translation was not quite accurate."
"... But, that's what the subtitles said!"
Now that House of the Dragon is out, I’d love to have seen an Argon’s conquest arch from Daenerys where she reunites the seven kingdoms under the red dragon banner BEFORE the long night. For a final boss, the night king goes out like a chump in season 8. He deserved WAY more weight than Cersei
Season 8 coulda been split into 2 full 10 episode seasons to be done right.
Season 7 really should have been the resolution of the game of thrones and season 8 should have entirely been about the white walkers
@@Damon242 they should have done what grrm wanted 10 to 12 seasons with 12 to 15 episodes in each season, dumb and dumber completely ruined that show, hope they never work again
Even the red lady had a good character development from a self-righteous know-it-all to a self-critical and humbled priestess, and yet we get Mad Dany in 2 episodes 🤮
what two idiot writers can do to a great series.
I love it when they speak High Valyrian.
In the end literally none of this meant anything. And it was garbage.
I believe that will pretty much be G.R.R. Martin's point: prophecy is dangerous and leads to disaster for the ones who pretend to fulfill them.
@@Xerxes2005 perhaps, but it will n better written.
@@Xerxes2005 Pretend to fulfill them? Bro, the Lord of Light is a real thing in GOT. It has granted immortality to characters.
What you're defending isn't an underlying message about prophecy made by Martin, but D&D's awful writing and omission of previous plot developments. They literally ruined the ending of show and this is a prime example of how they did so; poor writing.
@@jadduck It is not that clear that the Lord of Light is a real thing, especially in the books.
Hmmm
Love that High Valyrian dialogue omggg😍❤️❤️
And it’s made a 180 degree turn in season 8. Good judge of character? Tyrion became the dumbest Hand, Dragon queen became bat shit crazy, John Snow? All he can say is, “Mah queen”.
I DUN WENT IT, I NEVAH HAF
This mf got to much heroism and pride that he couldn't even lie or bend a simple knee.
That's a bit unfair! Tyrion also made cock-jokes! Daenerys looked sad and John also said 'I don't want it!" What more do you want?
"we do not kneel!"
QraY Except that one time, way back in the day.
QraY Hello, do you have a personal relationship with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ? The Son of The One and Only Living God. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:9
Why? Because they have arthritis?
Daenerys: "Bend the knee"
Jon: "Spread the knees"
I'm all for Jon and Dany meeting, but bending the knee might be pushing it a bit.
More like bend his queen over.
@@jamiestewart48 I-
She meant bend Dany not bend the knee
Dany IS the rightful claimant to the Iron Throne. He (and everyone else on the continent) owes her fealty.
And yes, I know what the show decided to do about his parentage. And until s1e7, the rightful heir to the Throne WAS the mopey "bastard". That went out the window when he took the oath of the Night's Watch
@@Mark-xh8md I think if he really wanted to argue his claim he could, he died so his nights watch oath was fulfilled.
This episode is very interesting because it conveys important information, one is that Verys swore that with Daenarys that he would speak in front of her about what is wrong, this after saying that the things he does is for the people above all, hard not to give spoilers but in the final part of season 8 he reflects on this, it's one of the samples that got it wrong in the last episodes of GOT, they could have done different and avoided a lot of things.
Melisandre was not expecting Dany to tell her that the Red Priests brought peace to Mereen and that she was welcome
I almost always rewatch great series I’ve followed such as Avatar the last air bender, AHS Murder house & Coven, Bo Jack, but I can’t seem to re-watch Game of Thrones knowing what the D&D did to season 8.
It’s like all the intellectual dialogue and cleverness & wit didn’t matter at all in the end. Shame.
thissssss
Try the books. There is enough change to make it interesting
@@decker_productions5904 is the book overall better though, or just the end? I've grown so attached to the show that I worry the book will be a let-down.
@@Sawrattan absolutely not. The books won't let you down at all. Although the books are not complete yet, and no one knows if they ever will. GRRM is taking a lot of time for the completion. It's almost like he is stalling it because of the fear of not writing it up to the expectations of public.
@@shreyanshjain4250 thanks!
back when dany had a great team, was truly herself, and was friends with Tyrion
What the hell did they do to series 8. I love this scene and the dialogue.
Disney paid Benioff and Weiss to screw up the finale as much as possible to get people to hate HBO and Game of Thrones. It's one of the few big and popular things they don't own, so they had to sabotage it.
Arya stark and Tony stark no question about that
I feel like this is a foreshadowing that either Daenerys or Jon has the right to take the iron throne and plus also foreshadowing that they are both targaryens
Melisandre back at Dragonstone, the seat of her greatest triumph.
Melissandre: The King In The North, Jon Smow.
Tyrion: My boy did what??
“prophecies are dangerous things” she knew
That bend the knee was more annoying than joeffrey’s I am the king
Danny was so good checking people who spoke out of order
The problem with Dany is that she wanted everybody to bend the knee, she didn't understand shit of what Tyron told her. He said "ally", no ally bend the knee, you become ally because you have a common enemy or similar interest, if you ask to bend the knee means you don't look for an ally, you look forward to subdue the person.
In the previous countries where slavery was going on, she was a good fit as a queen, but in a country based on alliencies, different kingdoms and chavalery she was unfitting. She tasted it in the north with Sansa, she saw what a family that rules for generation can be loved and trusted by people. Sansa was raised noble, but she also suffered shit because of her status, that why she wanted to be a queen alone, so no-one could ever control her. Same for Dany. Being a queen of the entire South, with the stark in the north she could have created a future of prosperity.
The profecy of the prince of doom, was her doom.
She didnt understand it, and couldnt accept it. She had been raised from birth to both fear for her life, feel devalued and the only thing that kept her going was the possibility of Targaryan rclaiming the iron throne, when she was able to overcome her brother she realized she wanted it.
If the North gets independence the other houses will too.
They were all written like sh*t by this point. Dany didn’t know sh*t, Tyrion only suggested sh*t, Varys’ whole character turned to sh*t even though he was supposed to be that secret badass character. Ugh
@@Jl2damax To be fair, Daenerys not really understanding that allies don't have to kneel was foreshadowed in how she demanded ships from the Spice Prince but didn't offer him anything of actual worth other than her word.
@@andrewvasquez7872 yeah! When they melted the brain of her brother she was like "he was no dragon bla bla" well... Gold is not fire, but let's ignore that, I think in her case it includes also heat, because she put her hands on burning oil and she didn't feel shit after that, but the point is she realized that magic was in her, the power of her ancestors was in her and she felt powerful. That she was born to rule and get the throne because she had that magic.
Back in the time where we all thought it will be about Jon and Daenerys baby
Dany: send a letter to john snow
Tyrion: 🙂
Dany: …to bend the knee
Tyrion: ☹️
QraY, this is amazing quality, thank you
Melisandre is my favorite valyrian speaker for sure, it's sooooo good to hear
1:25 Missandei basically using Twitter
Aegon's dream about the song of ice and fire. A targaryen king or queen strong enough to unite the realm to face the common enemy. Off course it's Jon Snow and Dany's destiny to be part of the prince that was promised. They're both Targaryens Nephew and Aunt.
Episode?
I like that , tell him to come to his queen 👸 and bend the knee😂😂❤
Dany: Pardons Varys for previously serving another King
Dany a few episodes later: Decides to burn the King's Landing including the citizens?!?! 🥴 Reaaaallyyy?!?!
They should've delayed Missandei's execution to make that happening believable. Since Cersei was really the embodiment of a mad woman, she could've slitted Missandei's throat at Red Keep in Dany's view when people were surrendering, making Dany snap and trigger the wildfires hidden at Red Keep causing the whole city to burn.
That would've made more sense than her seeing the ruins of King's Landing and innocents becoming casualties, it was uncharacteristic of her to do that unless they built her character up for that which they didn't. So far, she was only ruthless to armed men who were against her.
Dany took drogon to Egypt and blasted the sands with such fire that the entire dessert is now a crystal clear lake of solid glass no living creature was touched not even a mouse 🕊️
they kinda did though. first you watch someone die. then you kill people who deserved it, then you kill people who didn't deserve it, but they were getting paid so who cares, then you kill people who didn't deserve it but they were conscripted by the wrong side so tough luck, next step is killing people who dont deserve it but they were born in the wrong place.
I think one of her biggest mistakes on the show was entering Westeros as a conqueror and usurper, demanding everyone bend the knee or die. She should have come in, making allies first, and then worry about the Iron Throne later. Identifying herself as everyone's Queen immediately put people off because her family was overthrown for good reason. She was still young and could have taken her time to gain everyone's trust. Forcing John Snow to "bend the knee" was stupid. It weakened Jon Snow in the eyes of his people (whom had just named him King in the North) and made Daenerys an incredibly untrustworthy newcomer. Trying to attack too early (Casterly Rock) divided her forces and led to severe losses in Dorn and High Garden. She should have gathered more allies first and then attacked as a united front. The Iron Bank may have even been a good place for Daenerys to visit, herself, and bolster support there. She turned out to be a terrible diplomat.
Did we watch the same show?
She had allies, Dorne, Iron Islands and Highgarden, three powerful regions, and even then she was hesitant to attack people because Tyrion advised her to sit and do nothing. This caused her the loss of Dorne and Iron Islands. Only then did she attack the Lannister army. And even then, she allowed them to return home after bending the knee rather than take them all as POW, or take the vows of the Night's Watch if they don't want to.
Why should she not demand that Jon bends the knee? Would any other ruler let Jon just chill as KiTN? Would Stannis or Tywin? No, of course not. Jon ended up bending the knee because she saved his life, not because she demanded it. She then sacrificed half of her armies to defend his home, proving that she earned his loyalty.
Lmao no. Her biggest mistake was leaving essos in the first place, but if she HAD to leave essos, she should have went all out at once instead of following tyrions advice. She should have just attacked kings landing immediately, burn down the walls and then send the unsullied in to clean house. If the unsullied prove unable to take the red keep, burn that down too (though its not good after all she needs somewhere to rule from).
She had 3 dragons behind her. She had no need to negotiate.
@@anweshamandal6058 with that mentality she would just be a conqueror. She wants to break the wheel and create a better country, start by mercy . People always say she was badass opor stone cold. She was very much a psycho, god flipped a coin with her . Her hand and advisor were the only thing keeping her tame . She grew impatient and started blowing shit up and killing innocent men and women . She was a conqueror, that’s all she’ll ever be
"And BEND THE KNEE".
Riiiiiiight. Lol. Fookin kneelers.
So it begins, she is MAH QUEEN
Daenerys 'Valyrian is my mother tongue' Targaryen: _mistranslates something in Valyrian_
I think the moment melisandre said "the long night is coming " you'd think everyone would understand at that point what she's talking about
One of the better scenes from season seven
Season 6
Low bar.
one of the MVPs missandei!!
Every now and then I get this feeling of what they did to this series omg 😒😔😪
If only Dany had been open to an arrangement wherein the North was an independent, *allied* kingdom…
it was quite a ridiculous proposal-she lost a dragon and most of her army helping the north fight the whites, treated her with intense disrespect the entire time, had to be forced to help her siege kingslanding…yeah, and then they want their independence? I would have let the whites take that entire nation of racist bigots
I agree but i would blame it on Jon. He shouldn't have bent the knee to her. There was no need to because she had already promised to aid him in the coming war against the Night King. Surrendering the North to her even though he knew the lords of the North would not be happy about it was just plain stupid . He psyched her up by telling her she deserves to lead them and that the Northerners would come to accept her as their queen once they saw her valor and selflessness. But when they rejected her and straight up disrespected her openly on multiple occasions he just stood by and did nothing to defend her. Even after she proved her worth by fighting bravely to defend them at the cost of her armies and dragons, they refused to acknowledge her as their queen because they preferred a Stark to lead them.
I mean he's asking for her help, her dragons and her armies, she's not going to do that without getting something in return.
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And that something in return is her death.
Are there Menzies synced up?
This was a pretty fcking good scene, but the writers kinda forgot about it
The Red Priestesses would’ve got a kick out of The Scarlet Witch xD
Don't forget to mention she burned a little girl alive D&D probably took notes on that "let's do that to an entire city"
"And bend the knee"....lol Emilia Clarke just nailed it.😂😂
1:48 Melissandre’s way of politely telling Daenerys that she doesn’t think she’s the Princess who was promised 😂
And Dany's preference over the translation doesn't matter because even if Jon was born a woman, he'd still have the rightful claim as the child of Dany's older sibling.
Tyrion: I'm an excellent judge of character...
Well that didn't last long...
@@bigsissenpai Melisandre and Sansa became the best characters than Dany, Tyrion and Jon combined at the end. At least the two had character development at the end.
@@bigsissenpai He just kept watching Danny burning all those who didn't bend the knee but supported her anyways. For a person who spoke against Lannisters about their excessive use of violence, he kept working for the pyromaniac psycho
Jon and dany. Arya and gendry. Sansa and tyrion.Jamie and brieanne and R+ L
ZOMBIEKIZZ693 😂😂😂😂😂 es Game of thrones no un cuento de disney , recuerden eso
what?
Is Game of throne no a Disney story, remember that
And none of these couple exist now
S8 - none of this writing rolls off the tongue
Dany is unrealistic you really think the King of the North will bend the knee so easily to a foreigner let alone targareyn
Torrhen did
He had to. Otherwise the North would have suffered
@@monicaalejandrapulidoriano3189 then the same applies here.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Torrhen was faced with 3 fully grown dragons on top of an army far larger than his own. Things were a little different.
@@southgalaxydiedforoursins4193 that is not different. thats EXACTLY what jon was facing
Man, they really had us hype after this scene 💀
Love how she says, "and bend the knee
Tyrion was proud and happy for Jon
Jon came and bent both of Dany's knees
Her own fault. Dany kept badgering Jon to stick her with something hard. So he finally did.
I always wished Melisandre had met the High Sparrow and Cersei.
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"And after the Battle of Winterfell, we will share a Starbucks."
Melisandre bringing Daenerys together with her executioner. It was the Lord of Light's plan for Dany to destroy King's Landing with fire and then Jon to kill her, I guess.
Oh yeah, Jon Snow. The mighty one who knows nothing, makes love to aunts and then stabs them.
Are you claiming that Jon Snow is an aunt-stabber?
I knew that bastard would screw up
@@catelynstark9883 Are you calling him a sloppy aunt-stabber?
He knew everything and he did everything in his power to defend 7 kingdoms. How would've she become a queen if there is noone to be ruled. She was a god complex character who was obsessed with iron throne. She burned a million people just because she lost a friend and a dragon. She was a mad queen even more mad than cersei herself. Danearys killed more people in a single battle than cersei killed in her whole life and jon chose duty over love and killed her for that. FYI after finding out she was his aunt he didn't made love to her. He was embarrassed it was her who wanted to screw with him. She got what she deserved. If anyone is to be blamed it's d&d
@@anfalnoushad9804 So you're saying he was a sloppy but justified aunt-stabber?
"doesnt really roll of the tongue , doesnt it" my man spitting out facts.
it's always been jon...
Wrong. It was Arya.
Nah
it’s not read the books
No it wasn't
@@hyukifu8993 the books didnt even reveal it
Sometimes I like to think of GoT as a playthrough of a Melisande-focused video game where you get the "OK" ending.
If I was a ruler I wouldn’t b so damn mean to people😐 incentive holds more weight then fear has everybody forgot that?
Me: Knowing it’s wrong but still pining for Cersei..
Honestly I'd rather see Cersei remain on the Iron throne than see the Starks shamelessly use Dany as a tool to overthrow her so that they can then usurp the throne for themselves.
@@s_shaleh
Baratheons, Lannisters, Starks, Arryns, Littlefinger, Martells or the Tyrells and even the throne being completely destroyed by the white walkers ceasing to exist. Any one of those scenarios would do.
Anything other than the return of the inbred scum Targaryens for me and it would be a satisfactory ending ...
the blond sausage-rider acted aaaall tough until she finally met steel and realized that to the gods of death, she's no one
satisfaction
Arn Anderson most experienced about the ring. Eric Bishop, most experienced about the business.
This was the beginning of the end, I just realized! Melisandre said to summon Jon Snow, and listen to him, the King in the North. To listen.
But Denaerys, tragically, considers herself his queen, and demands obeisance. Wow. His Queen, really? She hadn't set foot there in years, knew nothing of the people, and yet presumes herself to be Queen over a King. This is megalomania, and the beginning of her downfall. So sad.
That said, the writers blew it!
Melisandre probably should not have used "summon," considering that the word has a connotation that Daenerys has the power to order him around. Respecting his sovereignty would require "asking him to come done to parlay" or something like that.
But wasn't that her attitude since Season 2 already? Dany's tragedy is megalomania and the false belief that she is special and entitled to everyone's obeisance without having to prove herself worthy of being a leader. That part of her story was always pretty straight forward. For me the downfall of the series came with Jon's characters arc from S7 onwards until the end..
I thought the exact same thing when I watched it! Her pride leads to her death. It's also deeply unbecoming.
This reminds me of History, and how you interpret a fantasy show with medieval knittings with a modern view. 🤔
Her pride has a point, three dragons and the same pride engulfed her .
Tyrion: Summon Jon snow
Dany: Ok but lets take the iron throne first with my 3 dragons in like 2 days? |
Tyrion: logical and great plan
no dead dragons, larger army to dany and no massive massacre .
they dont know that, if the lannister army is within the walls of KL, she will have to burn through the entire city to kill them, its smarter for dany to draw the lannister army out in the open and then kill it off - so that when she does attack KL, the lannuister army WITHIN the ciy street is less numerous than her unsullied. As the dothraki are usuless in KL streets if the lannister army is shielded and speared
Tyrion saying “the Lannisters” is hilarious to me . Nigga who are you ?
deanerys already had a crush on jon from this conversation. lol
SO Arya, was the prince who was promised I guess
She's so pretty in here
"why do you think your lord of light singled out this Jon Snow"
"I brought him back to life"
Episode number pls
This is where this bend the knee obsession shit began....and it's just so damn thick and painful the entire season.
You mean the whole time in Essos she wasn't talking about conquering Westeros and claiming the Iron Throne. I seem to remember in Qarth telling someone she will reclaim what is hers with fire and blood. She's been obsessed with ruling for many seasons. The ramped it more when she got to Westeros which makes sense.
@Yowatsapp 05 a part of her story has always been about conquering Westeros though. They constantly brought up that she is the last Targaryen and heir to the throne. After her brother dies she is even trying to convince Khal Drogo to go to Westeros, even telling Jorah Mormont to convince him. And yes you brought up Mareen and she made the choice to go liberate the slaves there. But it was just a stopping point. When she first meets tyrion even he tells her to stay, trying to explain to her she made things better there. But she says no, she wants to go home, and by going home that's conquering Westeros. The bending the knee concept is getting the lords to pledge fealty to her. She can not rule Westeros without having the lords bend the knee. Allies or enemies, for her to rule they have to bend the knee to her.. She returned to Westeros to subjugate it, it's not like she wanted a Democracy, she wanted to be queen. They ramped it up more when she arrived in Westeros because it makes since. I do agree the writers fucked up alot. But in that instance I don't think so. I think had the show been fleshed out more, some things would have been better. Other things were just bad by the end.
@@god-in-schizoid-mind3120 I always thought the slave liberation thing was a distracting arc, and the real Daenerys went straight from S2 to S7.
@@god-in-schizoid-mind3120 well said... Daenerys was mad from the beginning itself and she even killed the ALL masters WITHOUT TRIAL... She was really obsessed
@@theboss-nm9et you dodos forget the Starks and a small handful are really the only exception to the GENERAL GOAL OF CONQUERING in this show. Game of Thrones would be the title, gents. Her obsession with demanding nothing BUT a bent knee without discourse or compromise was what i meant. "oh no, Daenerys got angry with that pedantic spice merchant super early in her campaign when everything was against her in the beginning - #madqueen." Think of Robert Baratheon...."FEAR AND BLOOD!"...Stannis...all the major houses of Westeros scheming and plotting to get ahead. Yeah...Daenerys is a part of this insane medieval world. Tyrion and Varys, the Starks, and the others are wise and reasonable, but they also aren't trying to unseat everything. The thing that's annoying is the earlier seasons having actual debate and discourse about her decisions. Her attempts to liberate slaves and gather ships and armies were met with assassination attempts, strange wizards, and counterattacks. And her mistake with the masters was....actually discussed and regretted and addressed. I'd be disinterested in her journey if it was flawless and without doubt or error. But once the Westeros seasons began, she becomes one note. Never forget, even the Starks and the more benevolent characters acknowledged a certain brutality and power to keep the peace. It's constant mantras about keeping a barbaric world in check....and the end lesson is that it will take a long time to guide it out of that. Recognize what a show is and what it's showing you, yeah?
Melisandre always knew that that "prince" mentioned in the prophecy was Jon Snow but didn't tell it Daenerys not to offend her. She truely believed in Jon Snow.
but in that case, Jon didn't fullfilled the prophecy; he just united the north and did nothing more than that.
Jon might be a Targaryen but he's not even close to being a TRUE Targaryen like Daenerys was.
@@ftw001 yes i agree with you but i think this is scriptwriters' fault. We learnt that Jon Snow was the rightful heir to the iron throne but it changed nothing. He was stabbed in the heart and came back from the dead. At that moment, Melisandre believed that he was the prince promised, that the God of Light had chosen him, and probably all the audience did. But that scene just turned into nothing. I wish there was a different ending for the series. I'd like to see Jon Snow on that throne, not Bran.
Jon’s destiny wasn’t to kill the Night King it was to kill Daenerys and restore the balance of fire and ice.
@@BLTKellys your assumption is based on the tv series?
Dany is the princed thats promised confirmed in HOTD and GRRM interview
So many prophecies.... just gone out of the window in the end!
Oh man i sooo wish John's actor and Daenerys' actress would have gotten married in real life! It would at least helped salve the pain of her death in the show! Ohhhhh
Why did Tyrion, The Hand of the Queen, act all surprised when he heard that Jon Snow was the King in the North???? Was there no military intelligence or just any political news delivered to him in general?
Well that would be Varys job to know these things. Just like they didn’t know that 12 ships hiding right behind a rock waiting to ambush them
When he became King they were traveling to Westeros. I don't think Ravens were that well trained.