@@Coldcupcakeooh now tell me which god is real there are 4000 religion and 18000 gods . Now which god is real. I know your gonna say your religion and God is true 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@grandmasterff7547 the reason that I believe in God is because I am more than 100% sure that the religion i follow is the one and only true religion. There are number of evidences to back what I am saying it's not like I woke up one day and choosed a religion out of the number of religions , I hope you get my point
Kid quite literally admit that there has to be a necessary existent being. Which by definition of what God is that means the answer is God. How are you are the sheep liking your comment not using the brain you were given lol
If he (athiest) believes theres someone whos always existing always and not accepting its GOD is pure dumb thats what GOD is always existing independent😂
Now wonder people believe in this mumbo jumbo when they are obviously mentally ill. This meeting wasn’t in a Muslim country where this madness is more prolific but in mine. Why aren’t they discussing this gobbledegook in a wonderful Islamic Utopia where everyone believes this fairy story - or should I say Islamic Dystopia.
I agree with you but it's unfortunate that people think Mohammed Hijab's argument was logically sound when it's a logically fallacy. Saying necessary existence equates to God is a false equivalence. God is more specifically defined as a sentient being. You can believe in a necessary existence without believing it's any kind of being. Just because what he believes in shares some characteristics with God doesn't mean it is God
@@LosHitman False quoting, he never said it had to be Allah nor God, what if it's Raken'trùlthu, the Entity of All? Or the flying Spaghetti monster? The cultists were the one to imply THEIR image of the existence as THEIR deity, that's like me telling i am your father because you admitted that you got a dad.
@@randombaseddude4339 Buddy use your brain that you were given npc. He admitted there is a necessary existent being which by definition is God. Lmao yall dont think huh
I think you are new to this debate or philosophy thing. to put it in simple words, necessary existence is like a philosophical term for god, so the atheist accepted that there is God.
@@Overawed “philosophical term for god” according to you. youre also missing the point of my comment, he immediately thought he won the argument and refused to listen to the other side’s explanation just like how middle school kids argue
@@meyr1992 it's not according to me💀💀💀, this just shows your ignorance brother. And I'll tell you his response and also respond to it, His response was that it could be the universe. If he actually believes that then he is a pantheist not an atheist. Replying to your below comment: Pointing out someone isn't familiar with what he's arguing isn't as homeinum. Secondly your daddy Alex himself agreed to the definition of necessary existence before he accepted that necessary existence exists
@@Overawed more ad homeinum attack fallacies… show me written evidence that proves that necessary existence exclusively means “god”. also what do you mean you know his response? are you a psychic?? we didn’t get a chance to hear what he had to say. I dont wanna argue more with a 16 year old on the internet that uses skull emojis
@@aero3538 clear evidence that would show that a god existed. Evidence that would meet tha standards that a court of law expects which clearly shows a person is guilty of the charge. To date, no evidence exists of god existing. All we have are claims from theists.
@Steve-in-the-uk Court of law accepts Testimonial Evidence now accept New Testament from Bible of eyewitness testimony. Apart from Bible I can show you too. For example take first century Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Tacitus. Court accepts Testimonial Evidence. So as per your word accept it. Don't go back on your word. Have a nice day.
@@mranderson1635Not really, I've seen Atheists do the same in other videos. It's just that in my feed it shows the same two or three Muslim guys and they are quite literally going "La La La, Shut up, don't say anything that would sound rational"
@@foreignwarren7361 The Qur'an is miraculous and proved to us, that it's from God. Otherwise, I wouldn't believe in God either. I was an Atheist once, too.
The thing with this Muslims, they tread these debates as a competition and try to win so they can look good in front of their supporters instead of trying to understand both side. They are fake and full of themselves
@@Tarz2155No he didn’t. He was trying to expand on his point and the other guy acted like he “won” the conversation and talked over him like a dickhead
@@Tarz2155 That's oversimplification and deflecting. Preventing a person from stating the nuance of their point of view is a form of repressing the expression of opinion and all we have are opinions. Weather one believes there is or is no grand creator is an opinion, a debate is a discussion of opinions, and if one party bypasses another parties attempts to actually have a discussion on the nuance of said opinions then you are not debating, you are deflecting and suppressing an opportunity to have an actual discussion.
@@RavenFlight413 Well I’ve actually watch the video and everything else that was said is just a preamble and over complications don’t get lost in the sauce . Atheist love to be the skeptics, but never really have an alternative , the alternatives they provide are usually irrational and logical impossible which is the thing they criticize us for doing. I suppose what they really mean is entertain any concepts, except the ones that are well, excepted and prevalent throughout human history, which is the belief in a higher power. , it’s the privilege of the skeptic . This question here is all that matters and he conceded, it’s over , wrap it up pack up the bags and go home . I’m yet to meet an atheist in real life who actually knows what he’s talking about . It’ll be interesting to have this conversation.
This video is pure dishonesty. You have watched Alex's response video yet you still uploaded this, Alex stated many times that he is a determinist, so if there a bagel, that bagel has a necessary existence, necessary existence doesn't have to mean God
it does when he goes backwards to beginning of time to whatever initial necessary existence started off every other existence. whether you call that being god, creator, Allah it is still referring to same thing.
@@TmanRock9no. it couldn't be mindless as a mindless entity couldn't create designed entities. Can mud create fighter jets? Can dirt create nuclear power plants? when you start defining the nitty gritty of the necessary existence being for all creation, it starts showing all the traits of what everyone would call God. this short video doesn't show it. but there were other arguments that led to this gotcha moment.
Atheist have to understand that something can't come from nothing. The acceptance by the non-Muslim destroyed the argument they had, making Hijab correct.
@@magnum_opus5377How can you come to conclusion that it is god that is the necessary existence? I could claim that we are in a simulation of a computer and that machine is the necessary existence to our universe. That is just another possibility, but doesn't necessarily mean it is true. You cannot claim it is god just because there is a necessary existence for our universe, you have to show that it is infact god. Edit: Some didn't understand what I meant when I said simulation, I am taking about a possibility that just further pushes the necessary existence. For example, it could be: God creating a universe with intelligent life, and then they creating a simulation with us in it. But it need not be a god that created that universe.
@@MageReshen you don't have to call it God, you can call it the entity, the creator, etc. All of these still refer to the necessary being. Also if we were to live in the simulation, why don't we see any glitches. Instead, there is a consistent set of rules for reality. And this is what Allah describes in the Quran.
@@magnum_opus5377 I could further claim that the simulation is just perfect and thus there are no errors or glitches. I could make other claims as well, like the universe being an eternal existence that goes in a cycle. Same thing could be said about God. Just because there is an necessary existence doesn't mean those are true, they all are equally just claims. For simulation, we have to prove it to be the case. For it being by a god, we have to prove it is so.
@@MageReshen Ok, let's say the universe is the necessary being. Where would atoms and matter come from? Where would the information that governs reality come from? So, how could this lifeless universe create any of this? This is why the necessary being has to have a will, so basically a creator.
@@Darcnites who wouldnt want to but there is judgement heading our way. can i just go now rob a bank and leave everyone else poor and face no consequences? you might say oh but there is Law etc. yea but i can buy the law so what can you do now? life with the Law we have Can never ever be fare.
How do you win a debate? When someone says they're wrong and agree w/ your pov? Which will never happen when athiest are there because they won't believe anything you tell them.
@@Cdave-im5em if you don't understand the idea here it's: the atheist at the end agreed that there should be something existing before everything, the problem is that this is exactly what God is for us,that's why Hijab said that the discussion is over because the atheist in this scenario approved to the existence of God without noticing it
Actually alex O'Connor uploaded a video about this debate and if you watch it it shows alot about how he is misquoting and adding false clips into the video. Not to mention the fact Mohammad hijab didn't let him finish his point which in a debate seems rather ridiculous. I am not saying one side of the debate is right or wrong but only one seems to be well mannered and it is not the original uploader.
Looking at this neutrally, Alex was far better spoken and far more reasonable in this debate while Hijab seemed to be misquoting various things Alex had said on youtube in the past and totally missing the point of his responses
Hi there, If we think about it rationally, there are countless signs of the the existence of a God in the universe and within ourselves... The complexity of the human body, the order, balance, precision, and fine-tuning in the universe, all the diverse forms of life on earth, etc. are all signs that there is a ‘Creator’ because design, sophistication and order indicates intelligence behind the universe and what is in it… Therefore, if someone believes that everything in the universe just came to be just by ‘chance’, that would be even more absurd than saying an IPhone can be made by ‘chance’ by the forces of nature in a remote desert! Rather the design and sophisticated technology are clear proofs that an IPhone is created by some sort of intelligence (i.e. humans) and not by 'chance'! So, then what about the universe and everything in it... is it really reasonable to believe it is all made by chance? But that is just the tip of the iceberg! Anyway the videos on the playlist on my channel titled 'Purpose of Life?' might interest / inspire some people!
U weirdo u need to see the full video ur hijab as a looser faked the whole video and there is a full version online and if u have brains u will look and find that how much has he cut those parts where is he is constantly rocked lol this is why he wud never debate an atheist ever again or an English man but pick on some weak Christians or weak jews
@@tootingkaboomsgaming the necessary existence does not equate to God. It's simple. We may have been the result of an experiment or unintentional creations. The whole theory about the presence of God, is a mere human theory that too without any proof. So, it can never be debated since even for debate, you need some basic evidence to support your claim.
@@pandawandas if you watched the full debate you would no that Muslims sayed there is an necessary being with god Necessary means that he created the universe because if everything depends on something you with have a list of Infinite things that depends on each other And this is not logical
@@AbdullahRady An independant thing that everything depends upon and is the explanation as to why somethings exist rather than nothing. It also has many charicteristics such as a will, power, independance, etc.... Necessary existence cant be denied because its the only explanation as to why there is anything at all in existence and it is basically another term for God.
This is cringy to watch. A lot of atheists do think that something necessary exists. This is possible because there is no good reason to believe that something that is necessary cannot be natural. It may even be possible that the universe (or multiverse if it exists) is necessary by itself. Hijab hasn't countered these arguments so his declaration of victory is embarrassingly premature.
If everything has a cause, except your god, you are committing a special pleading fallacy. You set a rule, only to exclude something from that rule, in order to have an argument. You also automatically destroy your argument, because if your god doesn’t have to have a cause, then you are admitting that some things can exist without having a cause. Now using Ockhams Razor (meaning that we should be searching for explanations constructed with the smallest possible set of elements), we can eliminate the element of your god and simply say the universe was uncaused and existed eternally in some form. Logic 1 - Theism still 0
Your refusal to listen to his retort just shows a bad faith argument your not allowing for context, your not debating your stating and then walking away, a debate requires you to come into it and the acknowledgement that you could be wrong, this was just arrogance
@@jihadist4672 I have I watched the full debate and he made a fool of himself the entire time. fumbling his words, shouting, not listening to the opposition, the other muslim on the panel was very rescectful and made his points clearly and respectfully he got overshadowed by this mans arrogance and immaturity.
@@jihadist4672 as I said he, after everyone else was reasonable and well mannered, came blundering in practically screaming, misquoting alex in the debate, not allowing the opposition to speak which the atheist side never did, he later editied his video during his closing statment. as far as apperances he tied his tie like a 6 yr old. one of these things would be disrespectful in a debate but all of these paints him as an oafish fool, his points were just dumfounding but I'm really just talking about his demenour, the other muslim in the debate was actually very professional and cohearent. I could link a video by alex that details his actually mistakes and deceptions, if you truly care about the truth give it a watch even if you think that he's wrong surely you can see the logic.
@@memeswillneverdie No argument and clearly you didn’t watch the debate or you’d know that this is the open discussion segment LOL. Both sides took notes and addressed each others arguments and rebuttals when they went back and forth. Alex also interrupted many times and brought some old senile dude that kept bringing weak unintelligible topics that weren’t even part of the discussion. I’ve seen Alex’s review and there’s a reason why most atheists don’t take him seriously anymore. He’s changed his view multiple times and it came to light in this debate. If you’ve seen what Alex said about mistakes or whatever then point them out and let’s see if you actually know what you’re talking about. Bring the argument or just say you don’t have one. Your emotional subjective opinion on how Muhammad dressed is irrelevant to the actual truth. Imagine judging a debate based on actions instead of the actual things being said 🤦🏾♂️ how weak
He already said "thats our understanding of God" but still he is denying so why would anyone listens to someone who is not open minded and a denier at every point
Is to better agree to something than argue someone's who denied everything and skeptics of someone belief, is waste of time and rotting your brain to change someone who don't believe you.
No he did not. The ultimate definition of god in Islam is a being above all which this atheist stated that he believes such a being exists. End of story. You are trying not to understand.
@@goc19777 the atheist just said that yhere is an entity which have created the god. But what is the proof that this entity is allah?? He did not accepted that that particular entity send prophets, ask for 5 day namaz, hajj, animal sacrifice on eid etc😂😂😂
@@anubhavgangwar1383 He agreed with Islamic definition of god by saying "Yes, there is a necessary existence." In Islam, god (Allah) is defined as a being which created everything. Therefore this atheist lost the debate.
@@goc19777 finding the truth is not a sport match that you win or lose. Just because the atheist got bamboozled and then didn’t get a chance to elaborate his position on the necessary existence doesn’t mean he “lost” the debate. And by the way, necessary existence can have many many definitions that has nothing to do with God such as the concept of numbers, abstract structures, the notion of logic, etc.
@@alexminsky1 Well, in the full video he mentions that a "necessary existence" is a being that must exist for everything else to exist thus making it above all. He didn't need to elaborate on anything because he already agreed with the Islamic definition of god. Which is, a being above all or in this case a "necessary existence". Plus, I'm very sure that you're going to remember everything I've said here when you are at the gates of hell. Just a warning, nothing else...
Then you dont understand atheism. Atheist cant believe on a necessary being. It goes against everything their believe in. And yes, atheism is faith based as much as any other religion. Lol
yeah, cut him off when what he has to say doesn't support your views, I'm sure Allah is proud of you. if you are strong enough in your belief to have an open conversations where you have your knowledge to back you up, you do not need to silence anyone's voice
I mean it was a lengthy debate with the full unedited video out on his channel and anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature could have found it. But it is athiests we are talking about…
And you know what that’s what I don’t like about these scholars they don’t even let each other talk like shut the fuck up and let the other person speak but they don’t it’s seems like it’s only about winning the argument rather than proving you point with complete evidence. Another thing about all these scholars is they try to convert each other to each others religion as if gaining some points. Like ok fine your religion have more followers than others but than how it makes a religion person different than a celebrity who also runs after followers and admirers but by committing a sin.
Sahih al-Bukhari 2229 Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) he said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul(child) that which Allah has destined to born, but will surely born and come into existence. Can you explain this? And what is coitus interrupts?
I don't think so. Necessary existence doesn't mean "God". The Muslim dude just asserted "then that's God" as if the claim is evidence for itself. One can just as easily assert that matter/energy is necessary existence, and be more justified in that claim.
@@iliasbouchallikht9311how? Dude asked a broad question and said "YEPTHATSGOD" before the other man could even explain himself. My 4 year old does this. It is embarrassing.
@@anasamin3718 so I guess you don't know about tje concept of determinism, and how necessery existence is not the only quality of god. There is a big difference between a supetnatural, all powerful, all good, all knowing trancedant being, than something that just had to exist.
Yeah this video is so dumb. Every atheist I know believes in a necessary existence, including me. This muslim dude should maybe debate an actual philosopher instead of random youtube kids. But I don't think he will, since he knows his arguments for God are shallow
@rocknroll1973 Then you're an agnostic not an atheist. There are two types of existence: Possible existence and necessary existence, a possible existence is something which doesn't have to exist for other things to be able to exist and it's dependent upon many things like the materials that were used to create it, the laws of physics...etc, and it can be arranged in many ways, like a car for example, nothing relies on a car to exist and its materials can be arranged in different ways to create something else, literally everything in this world is a possible existence. A necessary existence is something that couldn't be any other way, it's self sufficient, independent from everything including time and space, and couldn't be out of existence. The irrefutable argument for the existence of God is the contingency argument which says: "there cannot exist a world where dependent things depend on dependent things to infinity" in other words, there can be no world with only possible existences, you need a necessary existence for things to start and continue existing. And that is God.
@rocknroll1973 You seem to have understood nothing of what I said. Trees are a possible existence, the sun, this galaxy and and everything in it are possible existences. You didn't understand the definition. Let's take the sun as an example, it's dependent upon the gases that compose it, it's also dependent on time, space, and the laws of physics. And other stars for example don't need our sun in order for them to exist, the Milky Way doesn't need our sun for it to exist. You don't need the sun, of course you'll freeze to death and you won't be able to live without it but the sun can be replaced with another star for example and we could live just fine, this is a possible existence. Now show me how this world and the smallest of its known components which are the atoms and quarks an so on can start to exist just out of thin air and then go on to create a universe with such delicate balance. You can't, and that's what the contingency argument is about, a world cannot possibly start to exist and continue on existing with only dependent beings. When it comes to anything in life we judge by the evidence available to us and communicate what we think is most likely true, and in this case an omnipotent God is the most likely explanation. It's not that you're too dense to understand this, it's just that you're stubborn and you will accept any explanation out there except for God, despite how clear it is that a God must exist like I explained. This is the mentality of an atheist
As a muslim too im disappointed seeing him carry himself with such pride. He shouldve let him speak and been humble. Please dont let random muslims you see online shape your perception of Islam.
The only people hijab impresses are other Muslims. Western philosophy has showed these metaphysical arguments for god to be worthless or irrelevant. And by the way, those very arguments hijab uses are ultimately based in Aristotle, for whom ‘necessary existence’ definitely wasn’t anything like the Abrahamic god
@tbonesteakchuckroast Show me a scientific paper that claims the universe "created itself". The only.people talking that way are Muslims and Christians who try to Strawman the fact called Big Bang.
I think he just got thrown into a trick question for a word he doesn’t understand properly, and now everyone believes what he said was said in 100% understanding of what he just agreed to. Even as an athiest, this one’s on him. Edit: apparently there is more to this clip than I know, I can’t be bothered to watch though lol
@@md.farhanabrarhossain5669who's to say necessary being is God? and who's to say necessary being is even necessary at all? These all are just assumptions
"Do you accept that there is a necessary existence?" Yes "Then that's bugs bunny, that's it." But that doesn't have to be bugs bunny. "That's our understanding of bugs bunny" Debate over, Bugs Bunny exists, fistbump..
I watched the whole debate, and you shared one isolated point like you’ve won it. It was the most dishonest and corrupted debate I’ve seen on this topic so far. I wanted to learn more about Islam, and I did. Learned to distance myself the more I heard from scholars like you. It’s one of the scariest ideologies. Some people in the comments assumed I’ve reached my conclusions because of reels or shorts. I started studying the religion of Islam 7 years ago, and for the past 2 years I have read and studied the Quran, the Hadiths, I’ve spoken to a scholar about all of my questions, I have spoken to more educated believers and afterwards only reached my conclusions. 🙂
“I wanted to learn about Islam” that’s an obvious lie because any sincerely open minded individual would do their due diligence to seek out truth and in this case thoroughly investigate and research Islam but you have done none of that and frankly chose a side well before watching the debate. Plus whether you say he is dishonest or corrupt that still doesn’t refute any of his arguments nor does it have anything to do with Islam and it’s truthfulness. Now, choosing to generalize an entire religion based on the actions of one person is completely bias and dishonest. So, you can choose to distance yourself from Islam all you like or you can be sincere enough to research it by also going to an actual Islamic scholars with your questions, whatever you choose won’t affect Islam in any way or make it any less true.
@@Ediicius the idea of having a work for H.P. Lovecraft itself means that someone (H.P. Lovecraft) did this work, right!? Now just the idea that H.P. lovecraft Existing means he was created. Quite simply the work exists because of H.P. lovecraft, and H.P. Lovecraft himself exists because of ALLAH who created him and his mind. Thank you for the example because it supports my claim, not yours.. I ask ALLAH Almighty to guide you to His straight path
If you say you’re atheist and believe there is one who created all these stuff instead of explaining science or Big Bang or starting lecture about what you just find out in science there’s no point. If you believe find out otherwise you’re just a stupid person.
A necessary existence, supernatural existence or mother nature is simply God. You can call it whatever name you like; HE has the most beautiful names. There was a survey conducted sometime ago on atheists and the answer was quite remarkable...most atheists believed in a supernatural phenomenon, but only that they would call it God.
If you watched the full debate you would see Mohammad didn't debate well at all... even in this clip, he asked a question and didn't let the guy fully answer and put music over him.
Gotta love the triggered atheists in the comments blaming him for not giving him the chance to respond, the thing that they ignore that the fact the atheist admitting there a necessary existence means that he lost and there is no comeback because the whole atheistic argument refuse a necessary existence and says the everything come from nothing, he could argue if that necessary existence is God or not but its pointless, he already lost the argument so miserably.
@sayuken14 everything coming from nothing doesnt mean there isnt a necessary existence. Atheists dont say everything comes from nothing. Even science doesn't say that because you are showing on the philosophical nothing. Which doesn't exist. They are showing on the physical nothing
@@sayuken14That is NOT what atheists claim. We do not say everything came from nothing thats what you say we say. A necessary existence could literally mean anything from a multiverse a simulation or a god it could literally mean anything.
@@nyrodiana7251 Hence why I stated it could literally mean anything. I dont believe in a multiverse either but people that do could use the exact same argument he did. Athiests don't know, how hard is that to grasp? We don't know if something caused the universe and if it did we don't know what, its you that inserts your specific God into that mystery, just because we don't know yet doesn't mean you can go "therefore God exists".
This is only a short clip in a long debate y'all. You truly were handed what a minute of the internet put forth and grasped it firmly, not even engaging your own neurons a few seconds to bring you the reason to search or understand. Have you forgotten such or do you blatantly display hypocrisy? What irony those who claim the title "Champions of rational thought" are in. Where may either be seen?
Dont try to act smart! he was roasted epic and existence is because of God! thats a valid point not lack of knowledge things and living beings exist and came into existence by creation , truth is truth falsehood by its nature will perish
@@rizkhan3368 you have no evidence of that. You make that claim with no evidence and actually the claim is made while all evidence points against it. It is indeed a lack of knowlege and not a valid point. At all. Please explain how you think it is valid. Many atheists see a deist god as the most plausible god to exist if one did. One who set things into motion and let nature take its course from there. He could also be one to believe that an unknown force that exists outside of our own universe is responsible for kickstarting other stretch of our universe. Some extrauniversal law or force. Matter always existed. It use to be a singularity and we can pinpoint where that singularity was in space. We know there was a time when things were this way. It then started expanding. We don't know why and you don't get to say "I don't know therefore god". Saying that is saying "I don't know therefore I know it to be this thing". Life is something we also know for a fact did not come about by "creation". Life first appeared through the process of chemical evolution which we can replicate in a lab and know for a fact happens. Then things got to where they are today through evolution by natural selection. Another basic and fundamental truth of biology. There is no room for a god in any model of the universe. So as I said before the only plausible god would be a deist type god who only set things into motion and has never intervened/showed itself or some force that exists outside our universe that we can't comprehend currently.
He hammered you in his reply video to this debate. Purposefully cropped mini clips like this are to claw back some of the embarrassment he dished to you.
@@bombotv8531 Full debate👇, Hijab never lost a debate by the will of God, AlhamdoLillah ☝️. Because *"Win ONLY belongs to the TRUTH"* 👇 ruclips.net/video/1n-zYRZy5NQ/видео.html
Which he did ... He said " do you accept that there is a neccessary existence? " ... He replied with yes , basically accepting that there is god. The debate finished , that's it. What's more to prove , his own tongue testified against him and his own principals and ideals. Stay mad bruh! 🤣🤣
@@aliengaming4247 There's more to islam and god than neccessary existence I believe, happy to be proven wrong but to me this was a weak performance overall
Even if there was a necessary being or even beingS… still doesnt mean it’s Allah, the God of Islam… Although I understand you see it that way BECAUSE you are muslim, from a rational perspective it’s a silly argument.
@@PetritAhmetithe answer he gave already dismissed his atheistic believe. He moved from atheist to theist. The question of which God is that necessary being would be a whole other topic
@@PetritAhmeti what do you mean by God of islam. A God is God whether a christian believe it or a muslim. Some call him Father some call him Allah some call him something else does language change God bcz of different sound produced by vocal cords?
Lmao bro took a clip out of context , did not allow Alex to furher justify and posted it to his sheep followers and claimed he won. What an actual clown
My comment was taken down: Just because I stated that this isn't the full uncut debate and this is highly misrepresented. Freedom of speech and truth is not part of his agenda.
Mans doesn’t know how to use his brain. Atheist said: there’s a Necessary existence. The Muslims ideology of god is a “necessary existence” That’s so simply put. God has no characteristics in Islam. It’s just a “necessary existence “ We have no idea what it is, what it looks like, or why….. We just know that there is something….. And the atheist agreed to it 💀
Whoever thinks this debate is over is a fool. Not allowing the other party to talk, fist bumping and then rolling the music, yeah I remember Socrates used that in all his debates!
@@syedharis1906 Of course, he didn’t because he doesn’t know! In fact, nobody knows, assuming that our limited understanding of the universe necessitates the existence of a higher being. At least that’s an honest position rather than clinging to a thousand-year-old idea proposed by ancient people who were illiterate by modern standards.
@@alexminsky1 so why you call yourself Athiest? Call yourself "Ignorant" or "egoistic".... And if you don't know what that is, there is a probability it is the GOD... You guys just becoming wannabes with science books in yiur hands created by medieval Muslims and Christians scientists lol...
@@alexminsky1 Mans doesn’t know how to use his brain. Atheist said: there’s a Necessary existence. The Muslims ideology of god is a “necessary existence” That’s so simply put. God has no characteristics in Islam. It’s just a “necessary existence “ We have no idea what it is, what it looks like, or why….. We just know that there is something….. And the atheist agreed to it 💀
Love to watch this duo brother Hijab and brother Abdullah. May Allah SWT always bless you both with health and keep your faith strong cause we need brother moslem who always defend and fight the islamphobic. Stay strong brother🤲Ameen🙏
Explain Islamaphobia? The definition of a phobia is an irrational fear of something. I think believing in something unproven, based on Middle Eastern fables and holds no accountability for the rest of the history of mankind, is simply ridiculous. I am not afraid of it. I just think it’s nonsense. Because you are born either a boy or girl, with a skin tone dependent on your family history. No one is born a religion. Remember that
This is a highlight,not full debate... checkout the full debate you will get to know y is this a highlight...also many Cristians support here this atheist you have shown that the hate of Muslims is more in ur hearts than the Love for God.
If necessary existence proves there has to be a god then who created god? If, in order for something to exist it requires god, then surely in order for god to exist god would need their own god to create them.
@@Oli-Johnson If a being exists beyond time and space, therefore beyond logic, we cannot judge them the same way we judge beings who ARE bound by time and space.
@@popeyefreeze2541 that is not cutting him off. He asked a direct question and the other guy answered with one word answer, but then he tried to roll around .. unfortunately he couldn't escape. Cause Muhammad hijab is just fire.
@Riflebird because it's way deeper of a question that what he's trying to present. If there is a reason or purpose or intent it doesn't mean it's "god" let alone his version of god that he so desperately wants to believe in
@@popeyefreeze2541 hmm...i get it man. Beliefs differ from person to person. Let me ask you a question, just to know your stand in this matter...Do you also believe in a necessary existence?. What are the attributes of that necessary existence ? And how did you come to that conclusion?? I know this is kind of a big question to answer in a RUclips comment box but still i would like to know. People really are not trying or researching enough when it comes to these matters. Most of the people are ignorant about being religious or looking for God. Mainly it's because of a modern political construct that is built upon our society. As an ex-atheist and a physicist, my journey to Islam was very interesting and eye opening. Our community of converts include a lot of academic people including people from very influential spheres of scientific community, some of them are leading figures in the community. You know it only takes an open heart and a genuine interest to find the real answer. I think i found my answers after an adventurous journey of learning and i am living the life🔥
@Riflebird I agree that people should do what feels right for them but it can become dangerous when those beliefs require you to deny basic facts that we can observe with our own eye and instead just have blind faith on what you think makes sense. It is not productive at all to believe that you know the answer and that everyone else is wrong because your book says so. For me, either Pantheism or Agnosticism makes much more sense and allows you to wonder with an open mind but not so open that you will take things at face value without presenting reason.
i think you don't understand the concept of "necessary existence" and i think the guy debtaing doesn't too, or he wouldn't have said yes, because it means he believes in god, and i'm guessing he's atheist.
@@omarlg8264 idk who said that to you because there's no definition of god. You have to define god to consider him a necessary existence. In philosophy of mathematics,we considers mathematical statements and objectes like numbers and constants as necessary existence. In physics, energy is considered a necessary existence. God is simply out of the equation. You cannot define energy as god because he doesn't have consiousness like the god mentioned in bible and Quran. At the same time, energy exists within everyone and everywhere. If you define energy as god then you have to accept monist and panthiestic perception of god rather than a monotheistic and then idolatry will be justified.
@@bardamoszecronstarog9499 He did go on to smoke Hijab in the debate, so there's that. Not surprising considering even in Hijabs selected short he fails to make an argument for God's existence.
A debate is over when one person doesn’t let the other person speak.
All they do is dance around questions and call it a win 😂
If you then put music in the background it seems like everyone wins a debate nowadays.
@@wutm8 he just said yes
@@skssvs You guys are trying HARD to NOT understand. Necessary Existence is God : End of story. The debate is over.
@@karimb972Debbate is over because he wouldn't let him say a word, only shouted over him . God, Muslims are so stupid
I'm sorry but one side decides when a debate is over?
Lmfao shut up ghetto guy
womp womp cry about it
Lol the guy at opposite agreed that there should be a necessary existence, so what's your point
@@Coldcupcakeooh now tell me which god is real there are 4000 religion and 18000 gods . Now which god is real. I know your gonna say your religion and God is true 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@grandmasterff7547 the reason that I believe in God is because I am more than 100% sure that the religion i follow is the one and only true religion. There are number of evidences to back what I am saying it's not like I woke up one day and choosed a religion out of the number of religions , I hope you get my point
That smile at the end brother
I agree
His smile is rediculous... As he say's... "That is our God"! God created all. So what God does the dude have? "Allah does what he wants"... 😂
@@Boca-do-rio desperately seeking arguments … smh
😅😅
@@Boca-do-rioidiot
How to win a debate: blast music in post edit, talk over the other person, fist bump, and declare victory. 😂😂😂
Kid quite literally admit that there has to be a necessary existent being. Which by definition of what God is that means the answer is God. How are you are the sheep liking your comment not using the brain you were given lol
He himself, said yes. Why are you putting words in hisoutb 😂
Devil is a joke 😭🤣 they don't know GOD😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Christians do that alot you know
Average muslims 🤡
You're finished 😂
😂
You're done wallah you're done
If he (athiest) believes theres someone whos always existing always and not accepting its GOD is pure dumb thats what GOD is always existing independent😂
Now wonder people believe in this mumbo jumbo when they are obviously mentally ill. This meeting wasn’t in a Muslim country where this madness is more prolific but in mine. Why aren’t they discussing this gobbledegook in a wonderful Islamic Utopia where everyone believes this fairy story - or should I say Islamic Dystopia.
Boy boy boy
How did he decide that the debate was over when the other person still wanted to talk?
Its bullying not debate
because God is the necessary existence...
I mean everybody wants to keep talking when they're losing the debate
@@Th1sTh4thow did you know when someone is losing from a short ? Go watch the whole thing and then decide 😂
@@dark_12moonwell by saying yes he just admitted there is God
@@MGS87273ofc bro, that's why hijab didn't give him a chance to talk bc the debate is over just bc of that "yes"
I'm a Muslim but that's not how debates works. You need to give the opposition side the time to explain their answer..
He was stuttering, and obviously he did explain.. Just that it was stupid
I agree with you but it's unfortunate that people think Mohammed Hijab's argument was logically sound when it's a logically fallacy. Saying necessary existence equates to God is a false equivalence. God is more specifically defined as a sentient being. You can believe in a necessary existence without believing it's any kind of being. Just because what he believes in shares some characteristics with God doesn't mean it is God
@@osiris4883 That is the nonsense of the year! 😆
@@wiseman4556 If you explain your position than we could have a constructive conversation
@@osiris4883ok can you explain more what is a necessary existence?
I feel like its pointless to argue with “logic” where they believe fantasies. They think they won and they will never understand.
He just admitted there was a necessary existence that is called God/Allah
@@LosHitman
False quoting, he never said it had to be Allah nor God, what if it's Raken'trùlthu, the Entity of All?
Or the flying Spaghetti monster?
The cultists were the one to imply THEIR image of the existence as THEIR deity, that's like me telling i am your father because you admitted that you got a dad.
Call it what ever the fuck you want it's a necessary existence without it the universe would not be in existence @@randombaseddude4339
You literally believe the universe created itself, where is the logic behind that fantasy?😂😂
@@randombaseddude4339 Buddy use your brain that you were given npc. He admitted there is a necessary existent being which by definition is God. Lmao yall dont think huh
literally how 14 year olds argue
Watch the whole debate fool. You are the 14 year old taking a youtube short out of context lol
I think you are new to this debate or philosophy thing. to put it in simple words, necessary existence is like a philosophical term for god, so the atheist accepted that there is God.
@@Overawed “philosophical term for god” according to you. youre also missing the point of my comment, he immediately thought he won the argument and refused to listen to the other side’s explanation just like how middle school kids argue
@@meyr1992 it's not according to me💀💀💀, this just shows your ignorance brother.
And I'll tell you his response and also respond to it, His response was that it could be the universe. If he actually believes that then he is a pantheist not an atheist.
Replying to your below comment:
Pointing out someone isn't familiar with what he's arguing isn't as homeinum. Secondly your daddy Alex himself agreed to the definition of necessary existence before he accepted that necessary existence exists
@@Overawed more ad homeinum attack fallacies… show me written evidence that proves that necessary existence exclusively means “god”.
also what do you mean you know his response? are you a psychic?? we didn’t get a chance to hear what he had to say. I dont wanna argue more with a 16 year old on the internet that uses skull emojis
A perfect example of the arrogance of certainty.
A perfect example of not knowing one true God, certainly.
@@sumairasiddiqui1073 knowing? No faith needed then. I look forward to seeing the evidence.
@@Steve-in-the-uk What type of evidence do you need?
@@aero3538 clear evidence that would show that a god existed. Evidence that would meet tha standards that a court of law expects which clearly shows a person is guilty of the charge. To date, no evidence exists of god existing. All we have are claims from theists.
@Steve-in-the-uk Court of law accepts Testimonial Evidence now accept New Testament from Bible of eyewitness testimony. Apart from Bible I can show you too. For example take first century Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Tacitus.
Court accepts Testimonial Evidence. So as per your word accept it. Don't go back on your word. Have a nice day.
Why make a short Were you literally cut out all context Unless you're purposely trying to maliciously manipulate people.
Are you dumb? These are shorts and only short format videos are uploaded. The whole debate is available on his channel.
exactly
What context? Bro you confused with your life purpose.
@@R1zzyW1zzy the entire context of their conversation. 🤡
It’s called a reel for a reason go watch all these debates in full lazy !
Why in every Athiest vs Muslim debate, it's always the Muslim guy going "La La La La, not listening 👉😡👈".
Stop crying dude. Muslims always win the debates.
lol way to paint a brush hypocrite
@@mranderson1635Not really, I've seen Atheists do the same in other videos.
It's just that in my feed it shows the same two or three Muslim guys and they are quite literally going "La La La, Shut up, don't say anything that would sound rational"
@@ManImTheVoid so then you should correct yourself and say “in every video in my feed” or “all the videos I watch”
@@mranderson1635 Almost all mustlims do it because Muhammad is said to have done the same.
tHaT DoEs nOt hAvE tO bE gOd-
Then what is it? A big bad cyborg scientist star war sushi?
my mouth went dry laughing at this-
We don't know, that's what we trying to find out....lazy people "It's god"
@Anonymousas lets be honest, the people in your faith won't afford you anything else 🤣
@@foreignwarren7361 yah sure
@@foreignwarren7361 The Qur'an is miraculous and proved to us, that it's from God. Otherwise, I wouldn't believe in God either. I was an Atheist once, too.
He didn’t even let him talk, this is not how you should debate somebody.
It’s over he conceded no more rambling required.
The thing with this Muslims, they tread these debates as a competition and try to win so they can look good in front of their supporters instead of trying to understand both side. They are fake and full of themselves
@@Tarz2155No he didn’t. He was trying to expand on his point and the other guy acted like he “won” the conversation and talked over him like a dickhead
@@Tarz2155 That's oversimplification and deflecting. Preventing a person from stating the nuance of their point of view is a form of repressing the expression of opinion and all we have are opinions. Weather one believes there is or is no grand creator is an opinion, a debate is a discussion of opinions, and if one party bypasses another parties attempts to actually have a discussion on the nuance of said opinions then you are not debating, you are deflecting and suppressing an opportunity to have an actual discussion.
@@RavenFlight413 Well I’ve actually watch the video and everything else that was said is just a preamble and over complications don’t get lost in the sauce . Atheist love to be the skeptics, but never really have an alternative , the alternatives they provide are usually irrational and logical impossible which is the thing they criticize us for doing. I suppose what they really mean is entertain any concepts, except the ones that are well, excepted and prevalent throughout human history, which is the belief in a higher power. , it’s the privilege of the skeptic . This question here is all that matters and he conceded, it’s over , wrap it up pack up the bags and go home . I’m yet to meet an atheist in real life who actually knows what he’s talking about . It’ll be interesting to have this conversation.
This video is pure dishonesty. You have watched Alex's response video yet you still uploaded this, Alex stated many times that he is a determinist, so if there a bagel, that bagel has a necessary existence, necessary existence doesn't have to mean God
So what is it?
@@mrnobody8128 it could mean a mindless natural process, no god required.
Stupid answer... You not qualified to tslk about this
it does when he goes backwards to beginning of time to whatever initial necessary existence started off every other existence.
whether you call that being god, creator, Allah it is still referring to same thing.
@@TmanRock9no. it couldn't be mindless as a mindless entity couldn't create designed entities. Can mud create fighter jets? Can dirt create nuclear power plants?
when you start defining the nitty gritty of the necessary existence being for all creation, it starts showing all the traits of what everyone would call God.
this short video doesn't show it. but there were other arguments that led to this gotcha moment.
I don’t understand who even takes hijab seriously. He is just loud there is nothing more 😂
Do u know how debates work ?
@@Alhamdulillah-j9d is this what u call a debate?
@@Joshua25MatThat’s how debates in Islam work.
Atheist have to understand that something can't come from nothing. The acceptance by the non-Muslim destroyed the argument they had, making Hijab correct.
He and his friends are the reason ex Muslims are the new thing now
That's like turning the table over and saying I won.
the problem is that it's a non-sequitur fallacy 😂
😂😂😂 Bro i am Muslim and That's very funny. Hijab didn’t let him talk and declared Himself a winner
Yeah it's funny, but if you are serious about this and you are "pissed" about this, watch the full video and you will understand.
@@Y270Hyeah ikap hijab clowned himself as he.always.does dirty ikap
@@IssamElRhouiziwatch the full debate then
The worst debaters always try and end a debate as soon as possible out of fear.
but God is necessary existence.
He just proved Hijjab's point.
@@magnum_opus5377How can you come to conclusion that it is god that is the necessary existence?
I could claim that we are in a simulation of a computer and that machine is the necessary existence to our universe.
That is just another possibility, but doesn't necessarily mean it is true. You cannot claim it is god just because there is a necessary existence for our universe, you have to show that it is infact god.
Edit: Some didn't understand what I meant when I said simulation, I am taking about a possibility that just further pushes the necessary existence.
For example, it could be:
God creating a universe with intelligent life, and then they creating a simulation with us in it. But it need not be a god that created that universe.
@@MageReshen you don't have to call it God, you can call it the entity, the creator, etc. All of these still refer to the necessary being.
Also if we were to live in the simulation, why don't we see any glitches. Instead, there is a consistent set of rules for reality. And this is what Allah describes in the Quran.
@@magnum_opus5377 I could further claim that the simulation is just perfect and thus there are no errors or glitches.
I could make other claims as well, like the universe being an eternal existence that goes in a cycle.
Same thing could be said about God. Just because there is an necessary existence doesn't mean those are true, they all are equally just claims.
For simulation, we have to prove it to be the case. For it being by a god, we have to prove it is so.
@@MageReshen Ok, let's say the universe is the necessary being. Where would atoms and matter come from? Where would the information that governs reality come from? So, how could this lifeless universe create any of this? This is why the necessary being has to have a will, so basically a creator.
That fist gesture at the end was killing 😂😂😂
Fr 😂
Br😂
I like him, but it was unnecessary
My like made 1k likes 😊
But where is god. Can anyone physically see him? Generally you won't believe if I said someone existed without you seeing them
That isn't how you win a debate bro lmao
Atheist always get destroyed in debates 😂.
Get educated kid
@@polaos5435or live life to the fullest with no restrictions from any belief
Average muslims
@@Darcnites who wouldnt want to but there is judgement heading our way. can i just go now rob a bank and leave everyone else poor and face no consequences? you might say oh but there is Law etc. yea but i can buy the law so what can you do now? life with the Law we have Can never ever be fare.
How do you win a debate? When someone says they're wrong and agree w/ your pov? Which will never happen when athiest are there because they won't believe anything you tell them.
He was FINISHED & started blame game
Yh
Don’t hate the game hate the player
He didn't start because your boy didn't even bother to hear the full response, so no.
Not really lmao these shorts make stuff seem very different then how it really went, content is important.
Necessary existence by definition is God. saying that you are atheist while believing in necessary existence is a contradiction.
His debates are always a sham.
True though
@@xcaliber4141 not sure how a “debate” can be true.
@@Cdave-im5em by using brain to understand both sides and brother hijab was right
@@xcaliber4141 if brain is synonymous with singular neuron, I’m happy to agree. Otherwise, provide some logic to your proposition.
@@Cdave-im5em if you don't understand the idea here it's: the atheist at the end agreed that there should be something existing before everything, the problem is that this is exactly what God is for us,that's why Hijab said that the discussion is over because the atheist in this scenario approved to the existence of God without noticing it
Actually alex O'Connor uploaded a video about this debate and if you watch it it shows alot about how he is misquoting and adding false clips into the video. Not to mention the fact Mohammad hijab didn't let him finish his point which in a debate seems rather ridiculous. I am not saying one side of the debate is right or wrong but only one seems to be well mannered and it is not the original uploader.
this is a meme
Bro took it seriously
the fact he posted this himself thinking he won is embarrassing
Looking at this neutrally, Alex was far better spoken and far more reasonable in this debate while Hijab seemed to be misquoting various things Alex had said on youtube in the past and totally missing the point of his responses
If Alex were in Egypt, Hijab would have 🔪 his ()
Hi there, If we think about it rationally, there are countless signs of the the existence of a God in the universe and within ourselves...
The complexity of the human body, the order, balance, precision, and fine-tuning in the universe, all the diverse forms of life on earth, etc. are all signs that there is a ‘Creator’ because design, sophistication and order indicates intelligence behind the universe and what is in it…
Therefore, if someone believes that everything in the universe just came to be just by ‘chance’, that would be even more absurd than saying an IPhone can be made by ‘chance’ by the forces of nature in a remote desert!
Rather the design and sophisticated technology are clear proofs that an IPhone is created by some sort of intelligence (i.e. humans) and not by 'chance'! So, then what about the universe and everything in it... is it really reasonable to believe it is all made by chance?
But that is just the tip of the iceberg!
Anyway the videos on the playlist on my channel titled 'Purpose of Life?' might interest / inspire some people!
He brought him to reality many times to real standards of real words instead of fairy tale
Is that watching it neutrally or is that watching Alex’s breakdown of the debate? ;)
As soon as you start a debate with a logical/rational/scientifical impossibility "No thing creates something" it's already over.....
Our brother went from Hello to goodbye in less than 15 sec 😂..
Almost 2023 fastest knockout 😅
@@PatrickScott-dk5diyour the joke here😂😂
@Proud Laundi Rebirth you mean sahil adeem ?
U weirdo u need to see the full video ur hijab as a looser faked the whole video and there is a full version online and if u have brains u will look and find that how much has he cut those parts where is he is constantly rocked lol this is why he wud never debate an atheist ever again or an English man but pick on some weak Christians or weak jews
@@Nomi1037 just type ex muslim sahil
Assallam alaikum m beloved brother Eid Mubarak, SO true It hurt
While playing cricket I would often take the bat away after getting out. The match was over instantly and thus I never lost.
OK so if you were the other guy what would your argument be? To hijabs question
@@tootingkaboomsgaming the necessary existence does not equate to God. It's simple. We may have been the result of an experiment or unintentional creations. The whole theory about the presence of God, is a mere human theory that too without any proof. So, it can never be debated since even for debate, you need some basic evidence to support your claim.
An atheist saying there is a necessary existence is like a vegan eating meat and claiming to be vegan
can you explain what a necessary existence mean please?
I’m not an atheist but please explain why a necessary existence has to be God?
@@pandawandas if you watched the full debate you would no that Muslims sayed there is an necessary being with god
Necessary means that he created the universe because if everything depends on something you with have a list of Infinite things that depends on each other
And this is not logical
@@AbdullahRady An independant thing that everything depends upon and is the explanation as to why somethings exist rather than nothing. It also has many charicteristics such as a will, power, independance, etc.... Necessary existence cant be denied because its the only explanation as to why there is anything at all in existence and it is basically another term for God.
@@mrmonster791 ah ok, thanks a lot for the explanation!
The fist bump tho😭😭
@Justice Warrior yeah
@Justice Warrior you kiss your dog does that mean you are worshiping your dog😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Justice Warrior You are just desperately trying to seek arguments. SMH
This is cringy to watch. A lot of atheists do think that something necessary exists. This is possible because there is no good reason to believe that something that is necessary cannot be natural. It may even be possible that the universe (or multiverse if it exists) is necessary by itself. Hijab hasn't countered these arguments so his declaration of victory is embarrassingly premature.
If everything has a cause, except your god, you are committing a special pleading fallacy. You set a rule, only to exclude something from that rule, in order to have an argument.
You also automatically destroy your argument, because if your god doesn’t have to have a cause, then you are admitting that some things can exist without having a cause.
Now using Ockhams Razor (meaning that we should be searching for explanations constructed with the smallest possible set of elements), we can eliminate the element of your god and simply say the universe was uncaused and existed eternally in some form.
Logic 1 - Theism still 0
Your refusal to listen to his retort just shows a bad faith argument your not allowing for context, your not debating your stating and then walking away, a debate requires you to come into it and the acknowledgement that you could be wrong, this was just arrogance
Maybe watch the full video genius
@@jihadist4672 I have I watched the full debate and he made a fool of himself the entire time.
fumbling his words, shouting, not listening to the opposition, the other muslim on the panel was very rescectful and made his points clearly and respectfully he got overshadowed by this mans arrogance and immaturity.
@@memeswillneverdie explain how he made a fool of himself let’s hear your argument
@@jihadist4672 as I said he, after everyone else was reasonable and well mannered, came blundering in practically screaming, misquoting alex in the debate, not allowing the opposition to speak which the atheist side never did, he later editied his video during his closing statment. as far as apperances he tied his tie like a 6 yr old.
one of these things would be disrespectful in a debate but all of these paints him as an oafish fool, his points were just dumfounding but I'm really just talking about his demenour, the other muslim in the debate was actually very professional and cohearent.
I could link a video by alex that details his actually mistakes and deceptions, if you truly care about the truth give it a watch even if you think that he's wrong surely you can see the logic.
@@memeswillneverdie No argument and clearly you didn’t watch the debate or you’d know that this is the open discussion segment LOL. Both sides took notes and addressed each others arguments and rebuttals when they went back and forth. Alex also interrupted many times and brought some old senile dude that kept bringing weak unintelligible topics that weren’t even part of the discussion. I’ve seen Alex’s review and there’s a reason why most atheists don’t take him seriously anymore. He’s changed his view multiple times and it came to light in this debate. If you’ve seen what Alex said about mistakes or whatever then point them out and let’s see if you actually know what you’re talking about. Bring the argument or just say you don’t have one. Your emotional subjective opinion on how Muhammad dressed is irrelevant to the actual truth. Imagine judging a debate based on actions instead of the actual things being said 🤦🏾♂️ how weak
He really thought that was a gotcha moment when he didn't even let him respond
Bro I’d at least let the atheist finish his thought
Bro said that necessary existence is the universe
He already said "thats our understanding of God" but still he is denying so why would anyone listens to someone who is not open minded and a denier at every point
Is to better agree to something than argue someone's who denied everything and skeptics of someone belief, is waste of time and rotting your brain to change someone who don't believe you.
@@Abdulwahab-xy9ioso it isn't god? Which one is more important?
@@fariszakwan4433 Except for the fact you're in a debate?
King, dropped this 👑
Really? I still see it on his head 😂
@@awaisjamil9956 damn that was a good one
You know this is a clip from a whole debate ? In which your “king” got humiliated more than once to the point that he had to distorsión the video
@@Pinkie-Red-Studios that's a big claim. What's your backup?
@@Pinkie-Red-Studios If by humiliation you mean win the debate completely, then yes. He was very humiliated.
Bro avoided the situation more than I avoid answering in math class.
No he did not. The ultimate definition of god in Islam is a being above all which this atheist stated that he believes such a being exists. End of story. You are trying not to understand.
@@goc19777 the atheist just said that yhere is an entity which have created the god. But what is the proof that this entity is allah?? He did not accepted that that particular entity send prophets, ask for 5 day namaz, hajj, animal sacrifice on eid etc😂😂😂
@@anubhavgangwar1383 He agreed with Islamic definition of god by saying "Yes, there is a necessary existence." In Islam, god (Allah) is defined as a being which created everything. Therefore this atheist lost the debate.
@@goc19777 finding the truth is not a sport match that you win or lose. Just because the atheist got bamboozled and then didn’t get a chance to elaborate his position on the necessary existence doesn’t mean he “lost” the debate. And by the way, necessary existence can have many many definitions that has nothing to do with God such as the concept of numbers, abstract structures, the notion of logic, etc.
@@alexminsky1 Well, in the full video he mentions that a "necessary existence" is a being that must exist for everything else to exist thus making it above all. He didn't need to elaborate on anything because he already agreed with the Islamic definition of god. Which is, a being above all or in this case a "necessary existence". Plus, I'm very sure that you're going to remember everything I've said here when you are at the gates of hell. Just a warning, nothing else...
Alex made the mistake of bringing his brain to this debate, not realising Mohammad was gonna leave his at home.
That's how debate goes in elementary school. Done like a man of faith.
and still better than any atheist debating
Then you dont understand atheism. Atheist cant believe on a necessary being. It goes against everything their believe in. And yes, atheism is faith based as much as any other religion. Lol
@@theosmanturkhonestly send a link of any Muslim who has won against a atheist.
That's why they're still learning
@@theosmanturk Why do you choose to deal in absolutes when you're about to affront opposite inequalities?
"Say yes or no"
"Yes"
"I won"
"Wait! that's n.."
"Shut up, debate is over, I won"
Just say you don’t understand 😭😭
@@LegitBossManok tell me?
@@LegitBossManThats exactly what happened lmfao are you dense
Maybe watch the whole debate 😮
@@LegitBossManjust say your a simp with daddy issues
yeah, cut him off when what he has to say doesn't support your views, I'm sure Allah is proud of you. if you are strong enough in your belief to have an open conversations where you have your knowledge to back you up, you do not need to silence anyone's voice
hit the nail on the head.
I mean it was a lengthy debate with the full unedited video out on his channel and anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature could have found it. But it is athiests we are talking about…
And you know what that’s what I don’t like about these scholars they don’t even let each other talk like shut the fuck up and let the other person speak but they don’t it’s seems like it’s only about winning the argument rather than proving you point with complete evidence. Another thing about all these scholars is they try to convert each other to each others religion as if gaining some points. Like ok fine your religion have more followers than others but than how it makes a religion person different than a celebrity who also runs after followers and admirers but by committing a sin.
Allah is a fictional character creater by a barbarian ma that marry children
@@hellsangel1072He did let him talk. Watch the full video dipshit.
Sahih al-Bukhari 2229
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
that while he was sitting with Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) he said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul(child) that which Allah has destined to born, but will surely born and come into existence.
Can you explain this?
And what is coitus interrupts?
It's only a debate if you let your opponent talk.
theyve been talking for hours then he go decimated
@@Tateistan your f*ing name tag is Tateistan :DDD (debate's over you lost!!!)
Its short video 😂😂😂
When he was asked a question
He said yes,
I believe that is talking as he used his mouth
@@DarkKnight.mv1_1 you're giant moron.
Bro got headshot sniped off spawn 😭
Guinness book of world record for the shortest debate
😂😂😂
I don't think so. Necessary existence doesn't mean "God". The Muslim dude just asserted "then that's God" as if the claim is evidence for itself. One can just as easily assert that matter/energy is necessary existence, and be more justified in that claim.
@@KindNine atheist or christian
@@KindNine are you an athiest?
That fist bump and smile are worth more than 1000 words 😂
Legendary finish
It’s embarrassing I don’t know what you mean
@@lewismcnabb1246 the atheist is embarrassing himself. What do you mean
He just talked right over Alex's key point: "It doesn't necessarily have to be a god". The subtitles dont lie though.
@@joshuakohlmann9731 🥱
@@iliasbouchallikht9311how? Dude asked a broad question and said "YEPTHATSGOD" before the other man could even explain himself. My 4 year old does this. It is embarrassing.
the loudest person in the room is not the smartest person.
So if a flying spaghetti monster is a necessery existness, then it exists.
In the context of the debate, the necessary existence is god. If you believe god is flying spaghetti monster, its your choice.
@@anasamin3718 so I guess you don't know about tje concept of determinism, and how necessery existence is not the only quality of god.
There is a big difference between a supetnatural, all powerful, all good, all knowing trancedant being, than something that just had to exist.
@@BaldyVoldy-s6m Then why did it have to exist. And who put us here to exist.
it's a necessary exsitance, so what ?@@BaldyVoldy-s6m
@@ShadabtheKebabare you so ignorant to not even realize you’re making the positive claim, but expect the rejection of believe to be justified?
There isn’t an atheist alive who doesn’t think like that guy.
Yeah this video is so dumb. Every atheist I know believes in a necessary existence, including me. This muslim dude should maybe debate an actual philosopher instead of random youtube kids. But I don't think he will, since he knows his arguments for God are shallow
@rocknroll1973 Knowing that there has to be a necessary existence out there but firmly refusing to believe that there is a God.
@rocknroll1973 Atheists can reject God regardless of this evidence you demand.
@rocknroll1973 Then you're an agnostic not an atheist.
There are two types of existence: Possible existence and necessary existence, a possible existence is something which doesn't have to exist for other things to be able to exist and it's dependent upon many things like the materials that were used to create it, the laws of physics...etc, and it can be arranged in many ways, like a car for example, nothing relies on a car to exist and its materials can be arranged in different ways to create something else, literally everything in this world is a possible existence. A necessary existence is something that couldn't be any other way, it's self sufficient, independent from everything including time and space, and couldn't be out of existence. The irrefutable argument for the existence of God is the contingency argument which says: "there cannot exist a world where dependent things depend on dependent things to infinity" in other words, there can be no world with only possible existences, you need a necessary existence for things to start and continue existing. And that is God.
@rocknroll1973 You seem to have understood nothing of what I said. Trees are a possible existence, the sun, this galaxy and and everything in it are possible existences. You didn't understand the definition. Let's take the sun as an example, it's dependent upon the gases that compose it, it's also dependent on time, space, and the laws of physics. And other stars for example don't need our sun in order for them to exist, the Milky Way doesn't need our sun for it to exist. You don't need the sun, of course you'll freeze to death and you won't be able to live without it but the sun can be replaced with another star for example and we could live just fine, this is a possible existence. Now show me how this world and the smallest of its known components which are the atoms and quarks an so on can start to exist just out of thin air and then go on to create a universe with such delicate balance. You can't, and that's what the contingency argument is about, a world cannot possibly start to exist and continue on existing with only dependent beings. When it comes to anything in life we judge by the evidence available to us and communicate what we think is most likely true, and in this case an omnipotent God is the most likely explanation. It's not that you're too dense to understand this, it's just that you're stubborn and you will accept any explanation out there except for God, despite how clear it is that a God must exist like I explained. This is the mentality of an atheist
I'm not an atheist but pretty lame to not let someone speak
see full debate
eh, thats god yknow
@@juba2516 why
he spoke and he blew it
As a muslim too im disappointed seeing him carry himself with such pride. He shouldve let him speak and been humble. Please dont let random muslims you see online shape your perception of Islam.
Now you understand the reason why people like us choose atheism. People are not good at following religion
You snatched him like a lion Masha Allah 😂
The only people hijab impresses are other Muslims. Western philosophy has showed these metaphysical arguments for god to be worthless or irrelevant. And by the way, those very arguments hijab uses are ultimately based in Aristotle, for whom ‘necessary existence’ definitely wasn’t anything like the Abrahamic god
Naaaa watch the whole video😂😂😂 muhamhead got snatched! Dickhead!!!!
type Allah with capital letter please
@@ikirizet Done
@@ikirizet allah
What a dishonest way to present the argument.
It's simple bro
This short does not provide the context of the debate
For everyone wondering. The context is: There are no gods.
@@Lordidudeyes because the universe created itself and the order of the universe just happened from pure chaos. Seems legit
@@Vegaschess What a bad strawman lol
@@Lordidude I bet you don’t even know what that word means
@tbonesteakchuckroast Show me a scientific paper that claims the universe "created itself". The only.people talking that way are Muslims and Christians who try to Strawman the fact called Big Bang.
Bro refuse to listen his opponent and think he’s win
He took "I'm about to end this man whole career" to another level 😂
Christian Prince finished Hijab years ago. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk bruh why are you crying? 😂 all those emojis are showing your insecurities to calm yourself down, Don't panic lol
@@israfilangel8062
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk dr zakir naik destroy christian religion 😂😂😂
See the whole video,where alex caught him red handed,while he was spreading misinformation,that was so embarrassing moment for him😂
Bro thinks he did something 🤣
Watch the full debate then, playboy
Lmao pretty sure it's just for a joke. Even if it isn't, the necessary being is God. That's what we believe. Whatever you call it, it's God!
I think he just got thrown into a trick question for a word he doesn’t understand properly, and now everyone believes what he said was said in 100% understanding of what he just agreed to. Even as an athiest, this one’s on him.
Edit: apparently there is more to this clip than I know, I can’t be bothered to watch though lol
All your 77 upvoters are loser Atheists XD
@@md.farhanabrarhossain5669who's to say necessary being is God? and who's to say necessary being is even necessary at all? These all are just assumptions
"Do you accept that there is a necessary existence?"
Yes
"Then that's bugs bunny, that's it."
But that doesn't have to be bugs bunny.
"That's our understanding of bugs bunny"
Debate over, Bugs Bunny exists, fistbump..
A comment from a man clonned in lab not in mother's womb.
All is science
Bro 😂😂😂😂😂
There is nothing necessary about bugs bunny
@@kenanekinovic2323 Exactly, it's a circular definition. You can replace god with anything and it makes just as much sense
@@bruvvamoffnot really
Hijab hijab... He thinks he won the debate. Existence is Allah, 2 right hands and 5 fingers and not 1 eye. 😂
How did he not?
@@zemsaney433 how did he?
@@jaiteim Did you not watch the whole debate. Anyhow David woods points or any anti Islamic argument can be refuted with a single google search
@@zemsaney433 refuted in google..LOL. quran itself is a joke.
@@jaiteim And how is that?
I watched the whole debate, and you shared one isolated point like you’ve won it.
It was the most dishonest and corrupted debate I’ve seen on this topic so far. I wanted to learn more about Islam, and I did. Learned to distance myself the more I heard from scholars like you. It’s one of the scariest ideologies.
Some people in the comments assumed I’ve reached my conclusions because of reels or shorts. I started studying the religion of Islam 7 years ago, and for the past 2 years I have read and studied the Quran, the Hadiths, I’ve spoken to a scholar about all of my questions, I have spoken to more educated believers and afterwards only reached my conclusions. 🙂
Agreed
quite an excuse you got there. An honest person who's seeking for the truth wouldn't be demotivated with one short video
“I wanted to learn about Islam” that’s an obvious lie because any sincerely open minded individual would do their due diligence to seek out truth and in this case thoroughly investigate and research Islam but you have done none of that and frankly chose a side well before watching the debate. Plus whether you say he is dishonest or corrupt that still doesn’t refute any of his arguments nor does it have anything to do with Islam and it’s truthfulness. Now, choosing to generalize an entire religion based on the actions of one person is completely bias and dishonest. So, you can choose to distance yourself from Islam all you like or you can be sincere enough to research it by also going to an actual Islamic scholars with your questions, whatever you choose won’t affect Islam in any way or make it any less true.
@@tylerthebeliever9080 so much for "open minded" 😂
Stop lying, you don’t search or try to learn about Islam if you’re watching RUclips shorts about debates
Do you believe you’re alive? Then that’s God! I win! 🏆
Exactly, the fact that u r alive itself means that there is GOD who created u .. if not then where did u came from !? think about it
you solved it unknowingly lol
@@user_ayxbdjen From the mother
@@user_ayxbdjenno it doesnt... does H.P. Lovecrafts work prove the existence of Cthulu and all the outer gods?
thats religion in a nutshell.
@@Ediicius the idea of having a work for H.P. Lovecraft itself means that someone (H.P. Lovecraft) did this work, right!? Now just the idea that H.P. lovecraft Existing means he was created.
Quite simply the work exists because of H.P. lovecraft, and H.P. Lovecraft himself exists because of ALLAH who created him and his mind. Thank you for the example because it supports my claim, not yours.. I ask ALLAH Almighty to guide you to His straight path
I would say that it's God.... but then my channel on RUclips is over and I'm left jobless.
~ Cosmic Skeptic 😢
Lool let's act like being a religious RUclipsr isn't the easiest way to get a huge gullible following
@@Samir-um9xt Ask that to Pewdipie. you are ignorant like that guy in the video lol.
@@Samir-um9xt don't see pewdiepie talking about religion, and his shit is as easy as it gets
@@Samir-um9xt biggest believers are godless people look at the most famouse youtubers
@@eliasali9383 lmao, true. As if T series is all religious
I don't understand why anyone thinks he won by just talking over his opponent fr. Repeating your claim isn't a justification
It would be interesting to see what point the other man was trying to bring up.
He just waffled
If you say you’re atheist and believe there is one who created all these stuff instead of explaining science or Big Bang or starting lecture about what you just find out in science there’s no point. If you believe find out otherwise you’re just a stupid person.
Right. Talking over peole isnt the way to go
A necessary existence, supernatural existence or mother nature is simply God. You can call it whatever name you like; HE has the most beautiful names. There was a survey conducted sometime ago on atheists and the answer was quite remarkable...most atheists believed in a supernatural phenomenon, but only that they would call it God.
You can watch the full debate, but he wasn't that smart tbh just waffled
He didn't even gave him to justify his stand he immediately interferes the person's statement this is not how debate works
mr atheist confessed that 0 cannot become 1 by random chance , or without a necessary being , that's Allah
Naw atheist are always wrong so always interrupt them, Islam on top you don’t let the prey speak or move, it’s always the prey bro
@@KelvinDeon oh yeah, how to prove your point??
Shut off the opponent and never let him speak, seems intelligent to me
@@D7mo0o0on that's 100% a claim. And if you didn't anyone object your claim, then don't debate in the first place
Watch the full debate he does not have anything to say
God of the gaps. Weakest argument ever.
How lmao do even know what god of the gaps is lmao.
@@badvibes2568 It's lmao the lmao answer lmao your lmao lot lmao give lmao to lmao unanswerable lmao questions lmao
@@davidwilliams-yh7if great argument lmao. Stay mad ahhahahw
@@badvibes2568 I'm not mad. Project that all you want lmao
@@davidwilliams-yh7if atheism is stupidity and pseudo intellectualism.
Why is he so proud like he actually said something?!! 😂
U are the best my brotherrr💕❤️❤️
Allah is the best. He is just good 😊
Mash'Allah, my brotherr!!!!
If you watched the full debate you would see Mohammad didn't debate well at all... even in this clip, he asked a question and didn't let the guy fully answer and put music over him.
"Do you think the colour of poop is brown"
-Yes
" Thats it I win !!!!!🥳🔥 💪"
Logicless
@@mahin7643just like islam 😂😂
@@suapeikgreat7501 oh so Google which is most growing religion in the world 😂😂and get your brain fixed
False analogy fallacy
@@mahin7643fastest 🚫 breeding immigrants☑️
Bro is trying to get protected by not letting him anything to say
Gotta love the triggered atheists in the comments blaming him for not giving him the chance to respond, the thing that they ignore that the fact the atheist admitting there a necessary existence means that he lost and there is no comeback because the whole atheistic argument refuse a necessary existence and says the everything come from nothing, he could argue if that necessary existence is God or not but its pointless, he already lost the argument so miserably.
@sayuken14 everything coming from nothing doesnt mean there isnt a necessary existence.
Atheists dont say everything comes from nothing. Even science doesn't say that because you are showing on the philosophical nothing. Which doesn't exist. They are showing on the physical nothing
@@sayuken14That is NOT what atheists claim. We do not say everything came from nothing thats what you say we say. A necessary existence could literally mean anything from a multiverse a simulation or a god it could literally mean anything.
@@willt3982 multiverse is dependent and simulation is not real.
So God is the answer
@@nyrodiana7251 Hence why I stated it could literally mean anything. I dont believe in a multiverse either but people that do could use the exact same argument he did. Athiests don't know, how hard is that to grasp? We don't know if something caused the universe and if it did we don't know what, its you that inserts your specific God into that mystery, just because we don't know yet doesn't mean you can go "therefore God exists".
This is only a short clip in a long debate y'all. You truly were handed what a minute of the internet put forth and grasped it firmly, not even engaging your own neurons a few seconds to bring you the reason to search or understand.
Have you forgotten such or do you blatantly display hypocrisy? What irony those who claim the title "Champions of rational thought" are in. Where may either be seen?
Ah yes, the religious peoples favorite line. "I don't know, therefore it is god"
Dont try to act smart! he was roasted epic and existence is because of God! thats a valid point not lack of knowledge
things and living beings exist and came into existence by creation , truth is truth falsehood by its nature will perish
@@rizkhan3368 you have no evidence of that. You make that claim with no evidence and actually the claim is made while all evidence points against it. It is indeed a lack of knowlege and not a valid point. At all. Please explain how you think it is valid. Many atheists see a deist god as the most plausible god to exist if one did. One who set things into motion and let nature take its course from there. He could also be one to believe that an unknown force that exists outside of our own universe is responsible for kickstarting other stretch of our universe. Some extrauniversal law or force.
Matter always existed. It use to be a singularity and we can pinpoint where that singularity was in space. We know there was a time when things were this way. It then started expanding. We don't know why and you don't get to say "I don't know therefore god". Saying that is saying "I don't know therefore I know it to be this thing". Life is something we also know for a fact did not come about by "creation". Life first appeared through the process of chemical evolution which we can replicate in a lab and know for a fact happens. Then things got to where they are today through evolution by natural selection. Another basic and fundamental truth of biology. There is no room for a god in any model of the universe. So as I said before the only plausible god would be a deist type god who only set things into motion and has never intervened/showed itself or some force that exists outside our universe that we can't comprehend currently.
the atheist: i dont know the definition of God yet i confidently refute..whata a crap faith
@@rizkhan3368god isnt necessarily supposed to be a giant creature on a throne eith two right hands and one leg like the islamic one
@@umarrazif7367 athiest dont have faith its the lack of faith
He hammered you in his reply video to this debate. Purposefully cropped mini clips like this are to claw back some of the embarrassment he dished to you.
Hey, could you send the link to that video?
@@bombotv8531 Full debate👇, Hijab never lost a debate by the will of God, AlhamdoLillah ☝️. Because *"Win ONLY belongs to the TRUTH"*
👇
ruclips.net/video/1n-zYRZy5NQ/видео.html
No friend, watch full debate. Whole debate is like this, one sided.
@@bombotv8531 if you search RUclips it’s easy to find
@@fearfear3716 it’s really not, at all. Unless you’re blinded by faith.
😂 as an Atheist, dis is actually hilarious. Muslim bro thinks he proved something
Which he did ... He said " do you accept that there is a neccessary existence? " ... He replied with yes , basically accepting that there is god. The debate finished , that's it. What's more to prove , his own tongue testified against him and his own principals and ideals. Stay mad bruh! 🤣🤣
@@aliengaming4247 There's more to islam and god than neccessary existence I believe, happy to be proven wrong but to me this was a weak performance overall
Even if there was a necessary being or even beingS… still doesnt mean it’s Allah, the God of Islam… Although I understand you see it that way BECAUSE you are muslim, from a rational perspective it’s a silly argument.
@@PetritAhmetithe answer he gave already dismissed his atheistic believe. He moved from atheist to theist. The question of which God is that necessary being would be a whole other topic
@@PetritAhmeti what do you mean by God of islam. A God is God whether a christian believe it or a muslim. Some call him Father some call him Allah some call him something else does language change God bcz of different sound produced by vocal cords?
Lmao bro took a clip out of context , did not allow Alex to furher justify and posted it to his sheep followers and claimed he won. What an actual clown
My comment was taken down: Just because I stated that this isn't the full uncut debate and this is highly misrepresented. Freedom of speech and truth is not part of his agenda.
That was like a WWE mic drop and entrance
Crazy and the sound used was a meme of the rock theme song
@@steadyff125 what is the name of background music?
"The Rock theme song in the background being harmonize."😅😂😂
Except it wasn't though... Watch the whole debate and you will see Mohammad did quite bad and was pretty rude
You’re right…WWE is also fake
I love how he doesnt post the full video of him losing the debate
Oh now i understand why this guy acts like he is undefeated in life
Crap. “That’s god.” then BLAH BLAH BLAH over your opponent is a loss not a win.
Mans doesn’t know how to use his brain.
Atheist said: there’s a Necessary existence.
The Muslims ideology of god is a “necessary existence”
That’s so simply put.
God has no characteristics in Islam.
It’s just a “necessary existence “
We have no idea what it is, what it looks like, or why…..
We just know that there is something…..
And the atheist agreed to it 💀
Good job bro , JazakaAllah Bil khayr bro....❤❤❤
@@MohammadAslamMagsi Magsi Jaan kesy ho ?
@@MohammadAslamMagsi Alhamdulillah Ala Kuli Haal..😇
Magsi jaan kahan sy , quetta ???
@@MohammadAslamMagsi ap instagram use krty hain kia ???
@@MohammadAslamMagsi OK.. 😊
SubhanAllah smile💕
Ye
Arrogant and filled with pride
That’s no debate. He thinks he did something 😂
I still remember that debate. The "professor" was disturbingly uneducated and much inferior to cosmicskeptic.
He was honestly embarrassing even from a muslim perspective
@@baker4728 who was?
Whoever thinks this debate is over is a fool. Not allowing the other party to talk, fist bumping and then rolling the music, yeah I remember Socrates used that in all his debates!
Saw the debate, Athiest never answered who the existence is... He just said it can't be God
@@syedharis1906 Of course, he didn’t because he doesn’t know! In fact, nobody knows, assuming that our limited understanding of the universe necessitates the existence of a higher being. At least that’s an honest position rather than clinging to a thousand-year-old idea proposed by ancient people who were illiterate by modern standards.
@@alexminsky1 so why you call yourself Athiest? Call yourself "Ignorant" or "egoistic"....
And if you don't know what that is, there is a probability it is the GOD... You guys just becoming wannabes with science books in yiur hands created by medieval Muslims and Christians scientists lol...
@@alexminsky1 Mans doesn’t know how to use his brain.
Atheist said: there’s a Necessary existence.
The Muslims ideology of god is a “necessary existence”
That’s so simply put.
God has no characteristics in Islam.
It’s just a “necessary existence “
We have no idea what it is, what it looks like, or why…..
We just know that there is something…..
And the atheist agreed to it 💀
@@alexminsky1you have to do your homework on what Islams god is buddy
The victory fist bump at the end 😅
Islam is false though
What victory? All they did was talk over him and proclaim they won, that's not victory, that's pathetic
@@ivanjuarez1160 you dont know brother 😊
@@Faridmuzakhir i do know
@@ivanjuarez1160 yes what ever ☺
That was the poorest attempt of a "won" debate I've ever seen.
Love to watch this duo brother Hijab and brother Abdullah. May Allah SWT always bless you both with health and keep your faith strong cause we need brother moslem who always defend and fight the islamphobic. Stay strong brother🤲Ameen🙏
😂😂😂😂
Explain Islamaphobia? The definition of a phobia is an irrational fear of something. I think believing in something unproven, based on Middle Eastern fables and holds no accountability for the rest of the history of mankind, is simply ridiculous. I am not afraid of it. I just think it’s nonsense. Because you are born either a boy or girl, with a skin tone dependent on your family history. No one is born a religion. Remember that
@@geimissontiago What,why you laughing???
Yes TRUE
He's not an islamaphobe in case you were implying the opposing speaker was.
Lawl. I have watched this debate and this moment was phenomenal.
Did you see the Google bit????? Naaa let's keep that quiet aye🤣😂
@@ba-doubble5199 Did you see who lost the debate? Naa let's keep that quiet aye.😂🤣
@@j0kez708 watch the full video! ' Google' it🤣😂🤣😂
Where can I see the full debate?
@@timmayers4965 not on mohamhead hijabs channel 🤣 search the white kid up
that smile at the end was legendary
Yaaaa 😂
You lead a sad f****g life dude 🙄
Shouting over the other guy to try to stop him from stomping on your argument is not really something to be proud about. He smiled for the cames
Yeah very arrogant and filled with pride
It's like a pigeon thinks it won the chess match when it shat on the board
brother asked a very good question 😅
Without lies islam dies
That fist bump 🤜🤛
Is embarassing when delusion kicks in
This is a highlight,not full debate... checkout the full debate you will get to know y is this a highlight...also many Cristians support here this atheist you have shown that the hate of Muslims is more in ur hearts than the Love for God.
ماشاءالله
No need to entertain this ateis arguement, well done brother
That's not allha. 😂😂
Times when traveling to the debate took longer than the debate itself
If necessary existence proves there has to be a god then who created god? If, in order for something to exist it requires god, then surely in order for god to exist god would need their own god to create them.
You can't judge a being beyond time and space by humanly standards.
@@jackour8167 says who
@@Oli-Johnson If a being exists beyond time and space, therefore beyond logic, we cannot judge them the same way we judge beings who ARE bound by time and space.
it’s impossible to answer questions outside of the material world, it’s all speculation.
who created the uncreated 😂😂😂 foolish question
You don’t get to cut off the convo before it’s done and say you won.
Smooth as butter
yes cutting him off and then not letting him finish while putting words in his mouth is super smooth lol
@@popeyefreeze2541 that is not cutting him off. He asked a direct question and the other guy answered with one word answer, but then he tried to roll around .. unfortunately he couldn't escape. Cause Muhammad hijab is just fire.
@Riflebird because it's way deeper of a question that what he's trying to present. If there is a reason or purpose or intent it doesn't mean it's "god" let alone his version of god that he so desperately wants to believe in
@@popeyefreeze2541 hmm...i get it man. Beliefs differ from person to person. Let me ask you a question, just to know your stand in this matter...Do you also believe in a necessary existence?. What are the attributes of that necessary existence ? And how did you come to that conclusion??
I know this is kind of a big question to answer in a RUclips comment box but still i would like to know.
People really are not trying or researching enough when it comes to these matters. Most of the people are ignorant about being religious or looking for God. Mainly it's because of a modern political construct that is built upon our society. As an ex-atheist and a physicist, my journey to Islam was very interesting and eye opening. Our community of converts include a lot of academic people including people from very influential spheres of scientific community, some of them are leading figures in the community.
You know it only takes an open heart and a genuine interest to find the real answer. I think i found my answers after an adventurous journey of learning and i am living the life🔥
@Riflebird I agree that people should do what feels right for them but it can become dangerous when those beliefs require you to deny basic facts that we can observe with our own eye and instead just have blind faith on what you think makes sense. It is not productive at all to believe that you know the answer and that everyone else is wrong because your book says so. For me, either Pantheism or Agnosticism makes much more sense and allows you to wonder with an open mind but not so open that you will take things at face value without presenting reason.
For a Muslim he's a genius
Only for them cause he "won" the debate. Man is so smart.
"Do you believe parrot is a bird?"
"Yes"
"In our language, we call carrot parrot. We won. "
Watch the full debate and don't make a fool out of yourself
i think you don't understand the concept of "necessary existence" and i think the guy debtaing doesn't too, or he wouldn't have said yes, because it means he believes in god, and i'm guessing he's atheist.
@@omarlg8264 yes he's an atheist idk which side you're on but point is something can't come from nothing
@@omarlg8264 idk who said that to you because there's no definition of god. You have to define god to consider him a necessary existence.
In philosophy of mathematics,we considers mathematical statements and objectes like numbers and constants as necessary existence.
In physics, energy is considered a necessary existence. God is simply out of the equation.
You cannot define energy as god because he doesn't have consiousness like the god mentioned in bible and Quran.
At the same time, energy exists within everyone and everywhere. If you define energy as god then you have to accept monist and panthiestic perception of god rather than a monotheistic and then idolatry will be justified.
@@omarlg8264 God in bible and quran has childlike personality like a psychopath who wants everyone to worship him otherwise you will burn in heII.
Well, the Muslim literally shoved his head above his ass on again 😂
Case Closed Finished😂
Yes if you don't listen every case is just closed....from your point of view 😂
@@foreignwarren7361 fr
@@foreignwarren7361 What’s there to listen to? His stuttering?
@@bardamoszecronstarog9499 they didn't allow him to speak 🤣
@@bardamoszecronstarog9499 He did go on to smoke Hijab in the debate, so there's that.
Not surprising considering even in Hijabs selected short he fails to make an argument for God's existence.