We can be admiring of your skills, Giles, but unless you explain everything you're doing as you're going along, this does not make a good teaching video.
Giles is providing a comprehensive narrative as he's doing the job which must be difficult, not sure what more you require him to explain. He's telling you what he is doing as he's doing jeez.
curved scalpel blade, number 12 i presume. he is selling them as tip trimmers in pack of 7 but you can clearly see its just a regular scalpel blade nr.12. any type of blade with 1 flat side works for this, actually a nice flat wood planing blade is even better for the job
You missed a trick not having any links to Amazon or similar. Sandpaper in correct sizes and grades chosen for the viewer without any further searching required could get almost as many clicks as the video.
Hi. What are the curved blades that you are using. Also im trying to learn how to mushroom a tip when i put it on. Is this something that can be done or is it just from playing?
I mushroom or "flying saucer" my tips. I have an 8.4mm ferrule and fit a 11mm elkmaster tip as centred as possible. Let the gel glue set for 20mins then I use the same process as Giles here to flare the tip from the ferrule to a certain point on the tip keeping the contact point of the tip still around 10-10.5mm. I do this so I have more contact area on the white which helps to avoid putting unwanted side on the cueball. I've always played with a below 9mm tip and have always potted well bit since using the mushroom method I have noticed that my long potting is far more consistent. The difference is night & day to be fair. Some might say why don't u just start with a 9.5-10mm ferrule and the reason for that is because I much prefer a thinner taper and a cue that is a little more whippy. I find I can get insane screw off a whipper cue with a properly shaped tip. Hope this helps someone out there!🎱
To my understanding. Ash shafts handle deflection better than maple. If i put a titanium ferrule on a maple shaft, can this make them closer to equal in terms of deflection?
As a tip fitter myself... if you want consistency in your match play... you should purchase a batch of tips to you owe liking.. and as soon as the tip wears down to an unplayable size... whip it off and use a new one from same batch.
You make it look so easy i bought the swann morton 12 blades (might need the bigger 12d or actual proper bigger tip trimmer ones) but i just cant seem to get the hang of trimming a tip this way. You should do one with a go pro or front facing camera so we can see what you see as you are doing it. Ive just been using the old turn cue upside down cutting down onto cutting board I'll need to buy better blades and practice this method of cutting. Ive just been using the old turn cue upside down and cut down onto cutting board but you make this look so easy. Top class Giles
There's nothing wrong with the upside down method to trim a large amount of excess off firstly. Then use the trimming blades to cut the sidewall flush. I hold the blade against the ferrule to steady it. Use a piece of paper between the blade and ferrule to practice. Hope this helps?
@@gilesmartin3643 Cheers. Will do that. Ive came across this interesting sanding method for the side walls that worked quite well there ruclips.net/video/ta5M0uCKkZU/видео.htmlm50s. Got a proper burnisher for a polished finish, that with steel wool is magic. I'll practice your method more too. Using an old cue to practice on. There is an art to it. Its fun to try and do. Thanks again
Jesus Christ you two make it seem like just accomplishes a 147 in under a minute. Anyone who can't repeat what he did here must be a thalidomide. Low expectation havin' mouthaphucka's!!
How come everywhere online I find people bashing Elkmaster pro tips as being way too soft etc, yet most of the best snooker players in the world use them...?
Because the people bashing them wouldn't know the difference if you put a fruit pastel, or a diamond on the end of their cue. And by running to the comments and letting everyone know that they hate the standard tip used for generations, and that it isn't good enough for them. This makes their penis grow 1", hence doubling it in size. Allows them to grow 8" taller, and pot a minimum of 2 balls in a row. A majority of these new tips are just an excuse to charge $50 for a .50c tip. And people will placebo their way right into the trap and fork out a fortune for nothing special. I personally play with a PowerGlide Med/Hard 9.5mm tip. Why? Because I didn't want to spend a bunch on a box of 50 ElkMasters from my local shop when I only needed one. and he sold the powerglide for $2 each, and individually. My cue had an Elk before...No difference to me and my shitty 30-40 breaks.
How does the ferrule get into a state where you need to use 1200 and 2000 grit etc? 0000 steel wool will polish the ferrule while the masking tape is still in place.
@@gilesmartin3643 I bought one of these last week, yet to try it. Can you give some ideas on what sand paper grades you use and the tips you fit for MW or any other player please. Thanks :)
@@gilesmartin3643 Thanks Giles! I love your technique and wish to achieve your level of skills. I started to recently use only 240 for both sanding and shaping. I found any finer grades makes the tip shiny and not get as much chalk coverage which equates to a slippery response. I do use a 2500 for the sides, but I purchased the MW burnisher (due to arrive soon) hoping it will give a cleaner look like yours. I highly appreciate your quick replies :)
Love that never seen done this way but how cool.. thank you. Question please what’s the point of an overhanging tip like mark king Barry Hawkins style do you know?
It's for when your ferrule is too small but you like the cue, it's to increase tip size. For example I can have a 8.5mm ferrule on a cue, and put a 9.5 mm tip on, with an over-hang. They call it a mushroom tip I think.
@@ukweed276it's called a crown or trumpet shaped tip. Slightly different to a mushroom tip and I'm my experience a little bit better....both visually and a bit more ball control. Its all just personal preference though i guess. I have to use a trumpet tip as I have a small ferrule at 7.8mm. I also like being able to see the dark outline of the overhang. Something I've got used to and now find it very weird and off-putting if I just see the ferrule and no tip. Horses for courses🎱
Sometimes that happens with these tip trimmers. But that’s where various grades of ultra fine sandpaper, micro mesh and wire wool help big time to remove any scratches to the ferrule. Gives a nice clean polished look to the ferrule also
@@TomCoppell Or if you can't be arsed going out and getting various grades of sandpaper and suchlike, just see if you can pinch one of those four sided manicure thingies off your missus. They have sides for filing, removing ridges, polishing, and shining nails, and they work like a charm for finishing tips and tidying up the ferrule. 😂
@@cockleshellzero3893I buy these from home bargains. They are the sponge cantered ones with 4 different sides. They are around 7inches long. Just cut a 2.5inch block and u can easily keep it in your case. You can finish a tip and burnish with this tool. It's prefect for making small adjustments to the tip as it's bedding in and changing shape. Very handy little things to carry with you.👍🏼👍🏼Good tip.
We can be admiring of your skills, Giles, but unless you explain everything you're doing as you're going along, this does not make a good teaching video.
Giles is providing a comprehensive narrative as he's doing the job which must be difficult, not sure what more you require him to explain. He's telling you what he is doing as he's doing jeez.
That's one great looking tip. Nice!
Would also love to know what kind of curved cutting blade that is please? Thanks 👍🏻 Great job 👌
the Legends GM Tip Trimmers
curved scalpel blade, number 12 i presume. he is selling them as tip trimmers in pack of 7 but you can clearly see its just a regular scalpel blade nr.12.
any type of blade with 1 flat side works for this, actually a nice flat wood planing blade is even better for the job
Class looking job
This might be a silly question, but why use a curved blade? What is the advantage over using a straight blade such as that of a stanley knife?
Helps to keep a consistent angle
I borrowed a club cue last week as my own cue was at home. Incredible difference. Reckon my tip needs attention...
What grain sandpaper are you using for initial shaping?
It's a secret.
You missed a trick not having any links to Amazon or similar.
Sandpaper in correct sizes and grades chosen for the viewer without any further searching required could get almost as many clicks as the video.
Wow that’s a top job lad
what are your thoughts on chalk or no chalk on phenolic ferrule and phenolic tip chalking
Hi. What are the curved blades that you are using. Also im trying to learn how to mushroom a tip when i put it on. Is this something that can be done or is it just from playing?
I mushroom or "flying saucer" my tips. I have an 8.4mm ferrule and fit a 11mm elkmaster tip as centred as possible. Let the gel glue set for 20mins then I use the same process as Giles here to flare the tip from the ferrule to a certain point on the tip keeping the contact point of the tip still around 10-10.5mm.
I do this so I have more contact area on the white which helps to avoid putting unwanted side on the cueball.
I've always played with a below 9mm tip and have always potted well bit since using the mushroom method I have noticed that my long potting is far more consistent. The difference is night & day to be fair.
Some might say why don't u just start with a 9.5-10mm ferrule and the reason for that is because I much prefer a thinner taper and a cue that is a little more whippy. I find I can get insane screw off a whipper cue with a properly shaped tip.
Hope this helps someone out there!🎱
@@taff6987 cheers for the reply mate. I forgot id even asked lol
To my understanding. Ash shafts handle deflection better than maple. If i put a titanium ferrule on a maple shaft, can this make them closer to equal in terms of deflection?
Maple shafts are stronger, you can go for a 'low deflection' shaft with Titanium ferule also for straighter long shots.
most part of deflection comes from the shaft itself, titanium and tip are a little part of it
and then people do wonder why tips do mushroom if you fit them like that
Huh?
I’m glad he’s not doing my cue lol
I agree
I’m glad he’s not doing my tips lol
Why's that buddy?
That’s awful
Really, explain ? 🤔
Nah the wood under the ferrule looks discoloured
he just burnished too low .....0000 steel wool will clean it
As a tip fitter myself... if you want consistency in your match play... you should purchase a batch of tips to you owe liking.. and as soon as the tip wears down to an unplayable size... whip it off and use a new one from same batch.
What grit sandpaper are you using for the doming part?
Probably 400 through to 1000
Exellent vid.What leather do you use to burnish 👍
Terrible !
Your feruel will last about a year doing tips like that . Nothing should ever be abrasive on the feruel .
This is a butcher job
Is that why top pro’s use Giles as their tip fitter ? 🙈😂😂
Concave trimming blade
You make it look so easy i bought the swann morton 12 blades (might need the bigger 12d or actual proper bigger tip trimmer ones) but i just cant seem to get the hang of trimming a tip this way. You should do one with a go pro or front facing camera so we can see what you see as you are doing it. Ive just been using the old turn cue upside down cutting down onto cutting board
I'll need to buy better blades and practice this method of cutting. Ive just been using the old turn cue upside down and cut down onto cutting board but you make this look so easy. Top class Giles
There's nothing wrong with the upside down method to trim a large amount of excess off firstly. Then use the trimming blades to cut the sidewall flush. I hold the blade against the ferrule to steady it. Use a piece of paper between the blade and ferrule to practice. Hope this helps?
@@gilesmartin3643 Cheers. Will do that. Ive came across this interesting sanding method for the side walls that worked quite well there ruclips.net/video/ta5M0uCKkZU/видео.htmlm50s. Got a proper burnisher for a polished finish, that with steel wool is magic.
I'll practice your method more too. Using an old cue to practice on. There is an art to it. Its fun to try and do. Thanks again
What skill. I wish i could do that.
@@RickSanchez-dn6rd 🙏 i have tried doing this. Still nowhere near this guy's skill. Will take much much more practice.
Jesus Christ you two make it seem like just accomplishes a 147 in under a minute. Anyone who can't repeat what he did here must be a thalidomide.
Low expectation havin' mouthaphucka's!!
What is that knife thing your using called
Can anyone tell me what mm size a half-butt tip should be ?
What’s the name of the blade you’re using ?
What sort of blade is that called
How come everywhere online I find people bashing Elkmaster pro tips as being way too soft etc, yet most of the best snooker players in the world use them...?
Because the people bashing them wouldn't know the difference if you put a fruit pastel, or a diamond on the end of their cue. And by running to the comments and letting everyone know that they hate the standard tip used for generations, and that it isn't good enough for them. This makes their penis grow 1", hence doubling it in size. Allows them to grow 8" taller, and pot a minimum of 2 balls in a row. A majority of these new tips are just an excuse to charge $50 for a .50c tip. And people will placebo their way right into the trap and fork out a fortune for nothing special. I personally play with a PowerGlide Med/Hard 9.5mm tip. Why? Because I didn't want to spend a bunch on a box of 50 ElkMasters from my local shop when I only needed one. and he sold the powerglide for $2 each, and individually. My cue had an Elk before...No difference to me and my shitty 30-40 breaks.
Brilliant great video 📹 thanks
No worries mate
@@gilesmartin3643 what tip did you use? I tried to burnish the side of a basic elk mester, couldn’t earn the same darkness as yours.
Legends tips buddy
How does the ferrule get into a state where you need to use 1200 and 2000 grit etc? 0000 steel wool will polish the ferrule while the masking tape is still in place.
I only use 1000 to remove scratches from previous fitters. 3000 if it's good condition
Nice. Where did you get that curved cutting blade from please?
Legends sell them. GM V2
@@gilesmartin3643 Thanks man appreciate it!
@@gilesmartin3643 I bought one of these last week, yet to try it. Can you give some ideas on what sand paper grades you use and the tips you fit for MW or any other player please. Thanks :)
240 through to 800 for shaping. Then 1000 through to 5000 for the ferrule and burnish
@@gilesmartin3643 Thanks Giles! I love your technique and wish to achieve your level of skills. I started to recently use only 240 for both sanding and shaping. I found any finer grades makes the tip shiny and not get as much chalk coverage which equates to a slippery response. I do use a 2500 for the sides, but I purchased the MW burnisher (due to arrive soon) hoping it will give a cleaner look like yours. I highly appreciate your quick replies :)
what are the best tip to use ? what does mark play with ?
Legends tips. Mark uses his own Legends that's Extra hard
should thanks to Ronnie's tip.
I have spoken to him about it. Maybe soon he'll have one from me
What the name
of such blade ?
Legends GM trimming blade V2
Love that never seen done this way but how cool.. thank you.
Question please what’s the point of an overhanging tip like mark king Barry Hawkins style do you know?
It's for when your ferrule is too small but you like the cue, it's to increase tip size. For example I can have a 8.5mm ferrule on a cue, and put a 9.5 mm tip on, with an over-hang. They call it a mushroom tip I think.
@@ukweed276it's called a crown or trumpet shaped tip. Slightly different to a mushroom tip and I'm my experience a little bit better....both visually and a bit more ball control. Its all just personal preference though i guess. I have to use a trumpet tip as I have a small ferrule at 7.8mm. I also like being able to see the dark outline of the overhang. Something I've got used to and now find it very weird and off-putting if I just see the ferrule and no tip. Horses for courses🎱
@@taff6987thanks :) - ukweed on different account
What is that blade thing ?
GM legends trimming blades v2
What tool are you using to trim the tip? Looks way easier than how I do it 😂
It's literally just a concave Stanley blade. Floor fitters use them a lot
How do you sharpen a blunt blade like this? Just curious... Unless it just get thrown away?
@@ahboonah You just use a new one
@@dnbmania felt like a mighty waste of metal :(
What do you think of century tips?
I use them and theyre by far in my top 2 for snooker tips. First for me though is talisman soft
@@TE_53349 I put an ultra skin medium on and I really like it never mis cue , no mushrooming,, hits really nice and only 8$ a tip
Nothing like a good elk though
Would like to see a start to finish video.
Best I've seen so far from this stage.
What are your thoughts on CUESOUL tips? What would you recommend? Please don't say Elk or Blue Diamond.
Kamui tips are amazing
@@jordanharrison1120 for sure. I am also trying precision layered tips.
Elk or Blue Diamond.
I've watched this video several times and I just don't understand how to do this with the trimmers. All I've done is scratch the ferrule up.
Sometimes that happens with these tip trimmers. But that’s where various grades of ultra fine sandpaper, micro mesh and wire wool help big time to remove any scratches to the ferrule. Gives a nice clean polished look to the ferrule also
@@TomCoppell Or if you can't be arsed going out and getting various grades of sandpaper and suchlike, just see if you can pinch one of those four sided manicure thingies off your missus. They have sides for filing, removing ridges, polishing, and shining nails, and they work like a charm for finishing tips and tidying up the ferrule. 😂
Hold a piece of paper between the blade and the ferrule. This avoids scratches until you get the hang of it
@@cockleshellzero3893I buy these from home bargains. They are the sponge cantered ones with 4 different sides. They are around 7inches long. Just cut a 2.5inch block and u can easily keep it in your case. You can finish a tip and burnish with this tool. It's prefect for making small adjustments to the tip as it's bedding in and changing shape. Very handy little things to carry with you.👍🏼👍🏼Good tip.