Ep 67: Inside the A-Frame
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In this episode Lance Reenstierna & Tim Pilleri talk to Mike & Sarah - the former owners of the infamous A-Frame house. The house, located about a mile from where Maura went missing, has long been a subject of investigation. In 2014 Mike & Sarah bought what they thought was going to be their family vacation house, but what it turned into was a real life horror story for their family.
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I wish they would of gotten a picture of the closet after it was sprayed!!!
It could have been addicts getting into a fight or even something as dumb drunk boxing. Addicts already stripped all the copper and kids vandalized the place so anything could have happened while it was vacant.
Did she just say that they threw away a backpack along with other debris from the yard? In an earlier podcast someone said that Maura used a backpack as a purse. The backpack has never been found as well as her wallet and car keys. When they were cleaning up the yard they were not aware, at that time, of the rumors that Maura might have been murdered on the property inside the house.
I cannot believe that Tim and/or Lance did not catch that. They usually do not let things slide past them like that.
Ever since I listened to this episode I cannot get it out of my head. I just wonder where this case could of been if that backpack was Maura’s.
Same here. This is driving me crazy. If they would have known about Muara and it was hers this could have blown the case wide open.. really sucks.
@sydneybaker8618 the only piece of actual evidence that could have mattered
I cant believe I never seen this until now. I'm am now convinced more than I was before that she was killed there at the A Frame house. I had a gut feeling she was in concrete and I'm no psychic but my premonitions haven't proved me wrong yet. After years of lost sleep and feeling connected to this case I could never shake that house. I woke up at 333 for months with a vision of maura and my mind wont rest until this is solved. Why isn't anyone putting forth more action. Why are we the people so determined but not the family? What's wrong with this picture.. it's so messed up in so many ways. I pray something is done soon because it literally eats me alive.
Okay, I'll bite. You're not a psychic, but you have premonitions? And you're also connected to this house. Please explain.
Surely you don’t believe “we the people” have collectively done a fraction of the work Fred continues to do.
Julie Murray is hella determined and doing everything possible to find Maura before Fred passes.
They jump at all opportunities to be interviewed bc they want to get Maura’s information out.
Fred is STILL searching for Maura.
Julie is working hard too.
Kurtis does podcasts in hopes someone will finally reach out.
Totally agree with you. I fully believe that she is in that concrete and was killed in that house. I get vibes from that house.
Umm does the Oxygen channel still want to promote the upstanding police force in that town?! All those red flags, slabs poured , blood stains proven to be human, the guys own brother saying there was death in there! Come on who are they protecting there. Is the Claude character related to some one in power, or is there a connection somehow that would make the police want to differ attention from that house?! And if I had bought that house I would never have sold it until I dug that slab myself. I would seriously be digging with a shovel by myself if I had to, to find out if there was someone there. Hell give all the random people that come by to gawk a shovel and make them help! If it's not Maura there someone was harmed there and they need to be brought to rest or else that child wouldn't have heard someone wanting attention and calling her name.
Claude lives just a few mins from me an ive known him my whole life he knows nobody of power thst ik of of but he did haul metal or trash back in those days i do believe. Are you familiar with the area
Kathy Petty --- Yep, it all sounds very shady! It's frustrating to see how quickly the Oxygen crew were to trust and defend those police, and how quick they were to basically roll their eyes at a guy like John Smith for being very suspicious of the cops and their "investigation." They seemed to casually dismiss John Smith's suspicions as being the groundless ravings of conspiracy nut, even though his Witness A was proven truthful and correct about what she saw that night, despite the incorrect denials provided by that police department.
Guess what, people---a conspiracy isn't the crazy, impossible thing you've been trained to think it is. It's simply when 2 or more people make plans to commit a serious crime; people are charged and prosecuted for conspiracies every day of the year. But when it comes to people in power, we're all supposed to suddenly assume that it could NEVER happen!
Unfortunately, positions of power can corrupt, and they often attract very bad people who would LOVE to have a job where they can do whatever they want, and then act like anyone who questions them is just a paranoid nut-case. I recently started the Netflix documentary series _The Keepers_, which provides a horrifying example of corruption, evil, and yes, CONSPIRACY, committed by trusted people in positions of power.
So Witness A is John Smith's, huh? That's pretty laughable, especially considering that going on 13 years into his "investigation" he had no clue who she was. The John Smith Show has been canceled due to low ratings (and high bullshit).
Alex C --- Its been awhile, but I seem to recall that John Smith was the main person promoting Witness A's info. Is that not correct? When did she come forward with her info, and to whom did she first present it? Did John Smith only find out about her late in the game? From what I recall, John Smith was the main guy taking her info seriously, while others (like the police) were dismissing it.
@@350mack How well Mack did you know Claude, where did he go fishing?
The concrete slab gives me bad vibes. There were two local girls who went missing where I am from when I was in middle school, and they eventually found them in a local man's backyard; one of them had been buried in a concrete slab he put on his property for a "hot tub" that never got installed. It does strike me as suspicious. I wonder if the date range of when it was constructed could be narrowed down.
I agree, this concrete slab is very spooky... even is there is no reason for it to be there in the first place.
Do you think she is in there?
was that the father and son? I just listened to a podcast with something similar
Ward Weaver?
Great episode. We have a house down the street from the A frame. Been up there for 25 years. That house was very creepy for a very long time, even when it was inhabited. I recall a very weird man living there with a long grey beard and a bunch of dirty dogs in the front yard. My dad said the guy had been renting it from the owner. Anyone know who that guy was?
Claude Moulton.
This house is for sale again. It looks to have been gutted and nicely renovated. Any takers??
I'll buy it
Such a nice couple, so kind of them to open their house to investigators and websleuths.
Except they sold the house. No one came to look at it while they had it. How sad.
This is a jewel of an interview!
All of the things found at the house from parts of a backpack, odd concrete slab, isolated parts of the house cut out, odd renovations and no doubt squatters camping out over time...sounds like tons of possible evidence!
There are thousands of missing ppl that go off the radar and transients that fall victim to foul play who may never be reported. An abandoned house for years could easily become a little known place where bad things happen on purpose or accident to someone unrelated to the area or known to be missing. I don’t understand how much of this seems blown off by the police. Cadaver Dogs!
this is a recurring theme with police..look into the Madison Scott missing case..
Large cement slab of concrete hmmmm interesting but none thought to break it up🤔
I stayed at the A-Frame house two weeks ago. Friends parents bought it not knowing about the Maura case. Nothing strange happened. Nothing was eerie or spooky. The only weird thing is that one of their dogs wouldn't walk near or within 6 feet of the closet next to the kitchen which was turned in into an open space (removed doors).
Are your friends parents the new owners of the house ?
Sarah bears a striking resemblance to Maura.
Anne I'd like to hear what Maura's Voice sounded like.. I Mean Sarah could be Maura hearing her voice would help
I’m aware this is old but I only just found it so here is my thoughts. Between the location of this house so close to where Maura crashed, the idea that Maura may have ran or walked away from the site to avoid getting a DUI and maybe knocked on the house or someone took her to said house, the closet that the dogs hit on and that lit up, the ripped out carpet, old book bag, the concrete slab, the fact that the dogs didn’t track her leaving the area, no footprints found, the short timeframe of the entire incident…….if I were police I would be in that house searching everywhere, doing some search of that concrete slab. This could really be where Maura was killed.
Still to date this is my most favorite of all the episodes. Something shook me to the core after listening to this and my gut never steers me wrong. This is the place. Google the A frame house.. Look at the old pictures when it was up for sale and check out that fireplace picture.. Look at that plastic bag hanging on the door to the right side of the picture and tell me that's not a transparent face of maura on the bag. Call me crazy if you want. My soul says something is wrong there.
Ditto, 100%. This family. Good people. There daughter is empathic, the imaginary friends, the voices. I really hope mom looks into this, so that she will be comfortable and understanding in things that may come. Brings up "normal" a lot. Nothing to be worried about, just needs positive support, love and positive vibes around her. That house was not a good place for that particular child, I dont think.
I grew up a little further north than Woodsville, and was still there at the time, leaving finally in 2005 after high school. I’ve been fascinated by this case ever since she was first missing. Things like that didn’t happen up there, that’s why my parents moved us up there.
Anyway, I just did a google search and found a Boston article from 2019 where NH detectives said they searched the basement and found nothing. But it says NOTHING about the slab. 🤷🏻♀️ I don’t think they searched well enough. Surprise, surprise 🙄
I cannot believe how much she looks like Maura. That is crazy.
This is such an incredible interview excellent job gentleman
Part of a backpack found in the yard? Wasn't a backpack missing out of Maura's wrecked Saturn?
Yes, why didn't they ask what color it was? Ugh
It was black
Hats thrown down to Police who did not do their job investigating this case, to me they just did nothing much on the A Frame house to investigate it more,, Only until it was on Oxygen the Police started to look more into this crime.. Who is in charge of this case ?..Why in the hell did it take this long ? Dam do your jobs Police or Whoever is in charge of this case ..I want to know who is cause i dont see that person much here ..He or she didnt give 2 cents..on this investigation..Everyone else was helping but..i dont see who was in charge of this CASE..My Brother has someone on his case who went missing...So Who is in Charge ? with Maura Murrays case.??? too meny people want to help but i dont see one detective on it from the State or City in uniform saying they are the ones who is working on this case..this is how cases get cold..Hello ???? if not Maura body may not be found on the property but maybe someone else..probably buried in that cement or closet...or land ~ City officials do your JOB or leave !!
Beach Waves --- Perhaps the Oxygen crew were too quick to defend the police and their investigation.
100% they were. Art was quite annoying in that aspect....we know you're ex law enforcement but quit with the bias.
Their daughter has a gift... she should be supported as such. It's not something to be ashamed of... but celebrated
Believe you child! Let her ask the spirit WHERE she is.
Since this is gonna be the final video for the year Happy Holidays everyone. See you in 2018.
What a wonderful interview, creepy af but very interesting
that house have a history to be share and investigate and is that house have new owners ?
She looks so like Maura it's crazy
"Part of a backpack"??! Please tell me someone grabbed that!
From Mike: "Yes there were parts of a black backpack in the backyard along with tons of other stuff. It was partly in the ground with ants living in it. We found it the first weekend Sarah and I were up there while picking up garbage in the yard. It was thrown out. Because we didn’t know about Maura at the time. If we found it after we found out about Maura we would have kept it for sure."
Backpack, awkwardly placed concrete slabs, cadaver dogs, human blood x2 found in the closet, and umm cadaver dogs! This is promising! I'm so glad you both came on the show. I hope the new owners are as welcoming to the police & allow them to search with their radars. Just curious, was the MM carved in the window of the bedroom where your daughters slept?
The one we saw was in the upstairs bedroom, not the bedroom they said their daughter slept in. But they said there were carvings all over the house.
I caught that AND "baby toys" and it stuck with me. Depending on how old the toys were/how long they'd been there, this could be something. If some people believe that she ran away because she was pregnant, and whoever did take her (if she was taken) and possibly held her in this caulked closet..she was definitely not far enough along for anyone to tell. If she was held captive until she eventually went into labor (thinking along the lines of Ariel Castro, not a person who took her to kill her), that would definitely spill a ton of bodily fluids--not blood specific, but blood included--wouldn't it??? If the person who possibly took her didnt plan on killing her, but she died in childbirth, he would need to improvise to get rid of the body which would make sense with the concrete slab (not sure how to word this, but maybe the point comes across). But you have to ask THEN, did the child survive? And it must have, if there were toys bought for it, right?? Did the person renting the home at the time she went missing have a child around maybe a year(ish) later? if so where would that child be now and would they be up for a DNA sample? Maybe it doesn't all fit, but that's the sort of thought process that triggered in me when they listed off the garbage in the property yard.
Claude and his girlfriend at that time had a daughter named Morgan Moulton that would have been about 1 1/2 yrs old when Maura Murray went missing. That would also explain the MM carved into the window frame upstairs too as that would be their daughters initials as well as one of Claude's sons and I believe another daughter too.
Wow this is very interesting. It seems like there are human remains down in that basement of that A frame house. I wish theyd give more detail about that backpack if it was a black backpack it was more than likely the one that Maura had on with her. I wish they would get a search warrant and really go back again several times and search that whole entire property. Piss pore of the officers to not even go back several times to not even do that. And it all lit up with luminol so chances are there are human remains in that A frame house. Wonder if that house is haunted.That big slab of concrete is very odd as well. They need to go and check that area out more as well as Maura's remains could be in the backyard.
Believe your daughter!
She is gifted. These are good parents, I wish the mother had not discouraged her "communication", but I can understand why she would want to.
Did they photograph the closet showing luminol results?
I dont know
No
1:10:00 So what are their actual professions?
Nurse and corrections officer
The county Complex down the road. Grafton county jail and nursing home. Makes sense.
wow good episode creepy
Have they dug up the concrete?
Not to repeat but I agree that this Sarah could be a Maura and that's all I buy. Strange Maura had a friend named Sarah. No I didn't believe that about the closet.....where are the pictures?? Nope not buying it about their daughter seeing and hearing stuff. Anyone can say that. Last but not least, if any of this had been true why would you not dig up the mysterious concrete slab? I'd called the police out especially concerning the closet. People can sell some stuff. One more thing, not to be mean but what's up with the giggles?? You think it could have been a person killed in your vacation home?? How is this funny on any level??
Third☺
This guy and wife are fucking dumb they don't know what a cadaver dog can hit on and can't hit on like yes they can hit on a dead rat you stupid fucks GO GOOGLE CADAVER DOGS FALSE POSITIVES SAME WITH LUMINOL
Sorry, but way too long!
Ik the people that lived there during the time of the mauras disappearance
350mack Can you ask them if they're murderers please.
Thats not cool for you to ask me that
Do u know the people?
An claudes mentioned again
Ask around names seem to pop up
Interesting their daughter is the third girl, Maura was third daughter.
they need to dig up the concrete.
Part of backpack (28:28)???
Deer blood doesn't explain blood in a closet. UGH people, PLEASE, excavate. There's gotta be someone daring enough lol
How about a video of the cadaver dogs ,while they were reacting to the scent of death? don't they usually record things like that? what about pictures showing how the luminol reacted? that would be very interesting to look at. These people really opened up were straight forward and well meaning. i do not sense that they are lying in any way at all. even the part where their one child was spooked. by something strange. the fact that she had the experience before they knew about maura's disappearance. I wholeheartedly believe that she was murdered if not in the a frame house then somewhere very close to her accident site. I don't think she ran off to die or ran off scared into the woods, or that she was starting a new life somewhere else and this route was part of her journey to some new start. I think she left to sort things out because she was having alot of personal issues and needed a break. Someone took advantage of her situation someone with ties to that area. I do not think if she were alive she would continue to ignore her family and torture them this way. after watching further i am a bit disappointed that this couple thought the slab was odd saw no permit for its placement , yet they didnt think to tear it up? I am just a single woman and based on everything they knew i would have been out there with a pickaxe and shovels and bagging up every strange thing i came across. After all they went as far as to spray luminol on the closet walls, so i cant see how they could not investigate even further i get that they are just regular people but the stuff they have revealed is pretty dam alarming and i wouldn't myself let this house go until i investigated further. in fact i feel like hoping in my car and going up to there to tear that concrete up. too bad thats not feasible. i am more convinced tha ever that that a frame house is connected to maura's murder. Not disappearance. HER MURDER
Gianna, my best guess is that yes, videos exist of searches, for documentation, just like videos of crime scenes exist. But such videos of the dog's searches maybe aren't admissible in court. Then again, maybe because of that very reason this particular one didn't have one? Good question that I'd also love to see.
@@KennyHinz I really hope they have some answers eventually. I don't like to jump on conspiracy theories but a small part believes law enforcement may have coveted up for someone in the community. I really do think that A frame house is where Maura had her life taken or dumped.
Dig up the slab!!!!!!
Very interesting interview, but they didn’t speak about one of the most important things.
In late 2004, a man allegedly gave Murray's father a rusty, stained knife that belonged to the man's brother, who had a criminal past and lived less than a mile from where the car was discovered. His brother and his brother's girlfriend were said to have acted strangely after the disappearance, and the man's brother claimed he believed the knife had been used to kill Murray. Several days after the knife was given to Murray's father, the man's brother allegedly scrapped his Volvo.
In October 2006, volunteers led a two-day search within a few miles of where Murray's car was found. In the closet of an A-frame house approximately 1 mile (1.6 km) from the crash site, cadaver dogs went "bonkers," identifying the presence of human remains. The house had formerly been the residence of the man implicated by his brother, who had given Fred Murray the rusty knife in 2004.
This man is Claude Moulton. Why not mentioning any of it in the interview ?
Also, perhaps some luminol around the closet, like near that weird “oven”, in the bath, sink, etc could give hints?
How can the “lead investigator” of this case didn’t even visit the A-frame house ? In what is he the lead investigator then ? Why did he dismiss it when the 5 cadaver dogs hits in that closet ? Who assigned this investigator to that case ? The fact that at the moment of MM disparition, the house was rented by the knife owner is beyond concerning, since somebody (his own brother) had told MM’s father that he was the killer.
Thank you. You filled in all the blanks for me
I hate to say I told everyone so but her life ended in this house
These people who owned the A frame are world class people. This is how everyone should react in a situation like this. Sadly, many of the people who were witnesses or lived in the area during the disappearance have not been open at all.
It's because they're from out of town. This was a vacation home. Small town people are weird, trust me.
@@owmystomachhurts Fr tho. They're fckng weird and selfish AF. I'm convinced that someone knows something but their stupid small town mentality is stopping them from telling the truth to LE. If there's something that I know for sure is that an accident like Maura's CANNOT happen without any witnesses, doesn't matter how "remote" they want to describe the area cause it wasn't even that remote either. There was a damned house a couple of meters away from Maura's car. Someone knows something and they're hiding it!
Thank you Lance and Tim for your continued efforts in trying to bring closure for Maura and her family.
I respect that these people are rational but still open minded enough to give it some thought
Are you serious? They don't think their daughter has abilities? Bring in Chip Coffey and he'll help. Really though that girl is gifted.
Lisa R real life is not the Ghost Whisperer or the movie Ghost. So-called psychics are conmen and conwomen of various degrees of skill, with a few self-deluded people thrown in the mix. But I’m guessing you still believe that there’s a basement with Pee Wee’s bike in the Alamo?
HoyaSaxaSD no need to be rude. I was stating my opinion and if your differs that's fine. All you had to say was that you don't agree instead of throwing shade with that bike in the Alamo bullsh*t. Thanks!
Lisa R, ure idiot
incredible. recently went down the rabbit-hole on this case. Unfortunately, I believe that she is long dead. Still can not get over the fact how bizarre her father is regarding this whole situation. One day, I hope this case gets wrapped up neatly.
Decent people, restores a little faith in humanity.
The amount of people in these comments who seem to seriously believe that this woman is Maura is alarming. I see the resemblance but that seems like a huge stretch.
That A-frame house has always terrified me.
U been there? Might take a trip this week, only a few hours away.
"was the youngest on the top or bottom of the bunk?" WTF does that have to do with anything?
🤣😂😂
They found part of a backpack? Maura was supposedly wearing a black backpack that night.. too bad they didnt know about Maura at the time that they cleaned up the debris. That could have cracked the case open if it was hers. That really sucks.
You look really pretty Sydney 😍. And I also agree with you.. I originally bypassed the A Frame theory. But I think she is still in that vacinity of the crash site.
I don't know guys. If you're going to abduct someone and kill them, are you really going to do it near the crash site of her car? That's the part I can't wrap my head around.
@@KennyHinz crazy murderers don't think logically. If he saw he and wanted her and just went and and grabbed her, he wasn't thinking clearly 😒
PS that is almost 2 1/2 yards of concrete. No way that was mixed by hand. It would have been delivered by a concrete company. Not sure what is the in the area for concrete suppliers but perhaps one of them has records of a delivery to this address? That would date the pad.
I don't understand why law enforcement didn't investigate this more. So many documentaries investigating everything and yet I've heard virtually nothing from their investigation. So odd. Who lived in the a frame at time of her dissapearance? Sadly it appears law enforcement doesn't care to dig on the property. Horrible.
OMFG this episode is so juicy. Best one yet. Dang!
MOM SAYS IN BEGINNING OF INTERVIEW, BY NO MEANS DO WE THINK OUR DAUGHTER IS SPECIAL, (HAVING PSYCHIC ABILITIES) BUT THEN AS T GOES ON, THAT IS EXACTLY WHATTHEIR DAUGHTER IS DISPLAYING... TALKING TO INVISIBLE "FRIENDS" WHEN SMALL, THEN FIRST TIME AT NEW HOUSE SHE FEELS SOMEONE DIED THERE, HEARING HER NAME CALLED AT THE A-FRAME, TO DREAMS ETC. THIS IS DEF ABILITIES... GET HER SOME HELP. SO SHE DOES NOT FEEL DIFFERENT, AS YOU ARE BOTH SCIENCE AND LOGIC, BELIEVERS.
A really nice couple. They should find a subject and host their own podcast!
They have the NY accents. Maybe do a spin-off of Coffee Talk (Caw-fee tawk)
She reminds me of Maura.
water2wine1 based from what Memory?
Lore Muhler just from all the photos I have seen.
water2wine1 oh ok.
She reminds me of her too, their faces are shaped the same and they have similar eyes. Very weird
water2wine1 I thought she favored her too, as soon as they came on screen I thought she'd end up saying she was a relative
Ive been saying this since ive been followed this disappearance she was murdered in this house
It has sold 4 times since 2014. I wonder if the newer owners have stories. 2014, 2016, 2018, 2021. I see another video for new owners but aside from them. It looks very cute inside now.
best intro music of any channel on youtube, so fitting. i feel sad for maura
I always got such a horrible evil aura around that house whenever I went to visit that area. Something evil happened there.
The photo's alone make my stomache tighten. It's not just the power of suggestion. Low vibe. I dont know why this couple on the video didnt find the place repulsive before they were informed.
If you look at the pictures on Zillow of the house you'll see a picture of that fireplace.. it makes me physically ill. Something bad most definitely happened there.. I never ever feel that way unless something is really off. I showed the same picture to my kid and she instantly started crying and said please don't show me that someone died there and she knew nothing about the case or that house. I wanna know!
Also in that same picture I know this is odd but look to the right you'll see a bag hanging off that closet door handle.. does it look like a face on that bag or am I wrong?
@@krystinthaboss7816 Could you link the photo you're talking about with the bag on the door handle? I've been looking all over for pictures of the fireplace without luck.
man that girl was killed in that house
Luminol also GLOWS on many other things then just blood u can't trust it either
Where the dogs went off and a carpet sample was taken...? Lol think again.
Interesting but a real shame they didn’t give you photos to use- of the slab, carpet debris, “blood” etc They must have taken a bunch of photos.
I don't understand why you guys are talking about a possible crime but can't stop laughing the whole time.
It seems like there is a clue that people are over looking or something will eventually come up. I hope she is laid to rest and her family will find out where she is. Such a mystery.
Time to put the hammer down on the people thought to be involved times running out
Do you have idea WHO,--- to
" Hammer down"?
this couple really validates all your hard work. the daughter is key.
The bought it in 2014, it was vacant for 10 years, bringing that renter to moving out in/around 2004....uh yeah
I believe it was Pauline Clark, not Pamela Webb, found in the brook across the road. I also believe it was found in 1990, but info is hard to come by on that incident. It was reportedly found to have been an "accidental drowning", but the water level was allegedly very low at the time.
Thank you. My bad (Tim) on that one. I cut the mention from the podcast version, but it's here in this youtube version.
So this may be a reach and I’ll admit I haven’t fully researched it but is it possible that Pauline was another victim of whoever’s blood is in the A-Frame? I know at the time of her death the house only had one owner but Mike and Sarah mentioned the house being rented before they bought it. I just find it too odd an coincidental that a body was found across from the house and then two DNA hits were found in the house.
Why don't they run DNA on the blood? Since there iS supposedly blood everywhere
Kurtis Langevin I think there was question as to how degraded the sample was and if they could tie it to a specific person. This whole thing is shady. The authorities are covering for someone..
Get to.the point
Need to get a team together with Search gear and some metal detectors and search the property
my opinion is think bout it, maura was to be only seen last by the bus driver and the cop ( even though the cop didn't see her they say ) well for me the cop I garuntee was involved NO DOUBT, I say this bc NO WAY something happen to her right before the cop got there, also the cop knows how to do this basically and get away with it ( well better then anybody else can ) so I just don't believe some one showed up before that cop got there, I believe the cop may have raped and killed her, the police force is hiding way to micj, the oxygen documentary where the lady ( forgot her name ) did a great job bringing more light to this case, u can also tell she wasn't believing a lot of this shit, and mostly those guys that did a podcast for her case got a map of exact location with latitude and longitude but told them if u go looking or won't leave this case alone u will be in trouble, my question is why didn't they get the police force to check the location and try to figure out who sent it, and it goes back to the police sounds like something they would do bc they really trying to keep this silent, like I said my opinion but, and as far as the blood they found in the wood chips why wasn't this seen before, I bet bc the police knew bout it but didn't want to check it out, and I believe also the cop that showed up at mauras accident seen wasn't he also in charge of the case?... when they spoke to him first time he is just really shady to me, well these are just my thoughts!!
Ghosts can connect to children
Sheryl McCollum would be a great guest with Tim and Lance. She's a CSI with Metro Atlanta Police Department and the founder of Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. A fresh pair of eyes.
cooool the A frame in detail
I wasn't planning to but now I have to ask anyways: Was that concrete slab ever checked? Either with ground-penetrating radar or by just drilling it up? Any info there?
Dude chain for deer
Hanging in house ...run fast now I have to watch from the begining
Following this podcast/case from the VERY BEGINNING this episode to me, in my opinion, is. H U G E.
Nope, they just want it be be a better story than it is, ignoring all the explanations they've been given. No evidence of M in that house and no evidence, photos of their luminol adventure, just their word and a kiddies dream.
You would think you need a permit for concrete slab. This is Far from the Truth.
THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF ALL THIS EVIDENCE BEING PUSHED UNDER THE RUG. I FEEL WHO EVER DIED IN THAT HOUSE WAS TRYING TO TO SHOW THE DAUGHTER WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO THEM, SPIRITS DO TRY TO SHOW PEOPLE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM IF THEY HAVE A PSYCHIC ABILITY THAT SO THEY CAN BE FOUND. I DO WORK IN THE SPIRIT REALM AND HELP THEM TO CROSS OVER. AND SPIRITS WILL DO A LOT OF THINGS TO GET THE ATTENTION OF THE HOME OWNERS, LIKE SLAM DOORS, WHISPER NAMES, MOVE THINGS IN THERE HOUSE.ALSO DREAMS ARE A GOOD SIGN. THOSE PANTIES FOUND ON THE ROAD TO ME WAS A BIG SIGN SOMETHING SINISTER HAD HAPPENED .SO MUCH MORE HERE THAN THEN WHAT WILL EVER BE FOUND.
my opinion at bottom meant the longitude and latitude of her body... SORRY!!
Did the police dig up the concrete? Pretty obvious somethimg is buried there.
sixth, whooo
So now there is a cell phone signal ,in the 2004 there wasn’t
Guy is a dead ringer for David Lee Roth
This episode was so informative! Thank you
ALSO if it was something the cops would have done something already they wouldn't say nothing
The cops from the Night Stalker case seized a car that was driven by the Night Stalker. A patrolman pulled him over while driving, after a murder and while he was running the car thru dispatch, the driver took off on foot and escaped.
The car was discovered to be stolen and the LAPD fought to have the car btought to their impound station and have it fall under their jurisdiction for investigation. 6 months later the lead detectives of the case asked for lab results and were told that the car was never examined or tested and they soon found out that the LAPD simply towed the car and abandoned it in an outdoor lot.
After being allowed access, the lead detectives found the most key piece of evidence in the entire case and were absolutely livid that the car was never once searched or tested in the midst of the worst series of murders/rapes in Cali history.
Police depts do this stuff all the time and most depts are not even equipped to analyze important evidence. Most violent crimes are solved because the answer is so obvious. It is rarely because of brilliant police work. Cops are decent at solving crimes with easy motives but they are terrible with crimes that are random and have no obvious answer...
Thanks for telling your story!
Is it just me? This girl looks like Maura.
Probably her tbh.
Second
Hood News Daily u wish
Listened to all of your series... this was def my favorite! Didn’t want it to end! What amazing people to do so much to find the truth about this house! Bless you both! ❤️
Can someone tell me the Admins for the FB Podcast group, other than Melissa Mackinnon? Thanks!
Some people are just sensitive to things. I am very leary of people claim they hear from the dead. However, I had an experience when I walked into a house that was abandoned and felt pure evil. Returned to the home on the insistence of my ex, and the locals told us a bunch of satanists lived there. So sad no one investigated it deeper.
Some people are just stupid
Who owned the house when Maura disappeared? Did I miss that?
They say who lived there at the time an who they thought owned it
The original owners owned it but rented it out at the time to a man named claude
Ik claude personally
350mack is he evil?