Two things about them being "deaf": study after study has shown that plants grow better with sound. However it doesn't matter what sound. In fact screamo works best just because of how noisy it is. Second: what about the telegraph plant?? It's literally been nicknamed the "dancing plant" because of the fact that its leaves move around when there is sound. I think plants can detect vibration, and that impacts its growth, and in the case of the telegraph plant, causes movement.
glad to hear this. I have a bunch of plants in my bedroom, where I blast deathmetal all the time haha just doing my part in helping my plants live long, healthy lives!
Good that someone underlined this: hearing is just a specialized form of tact (pressure sensing) and plants definitely have that, so they should have some sort of "hearing" even if not at all like ours.
My poinsettia named Sprout got so tired of me practicing my piano scales, teaching myself to learn the 1-4-6-5 chord on the table next to her, that she emitted some type of very faint smell that I was seriously allergic to! So they obviously can perceive sound and many other things in nature!
Really. Thinking that music can only be received by auditory means, is akin to thinking that the benefits of sunlight can only be received when sunbathing.
My hippy mate once said to me we all look at trees like their big solid things that sit in the ground and don't move, but from their point of view trees live for hundreds of years so to them their roots are wiggling around at normal speed and we zoom past at ridiculous speeds and die within a few minutes like bacteria
I never heard about the classical music trick, but I did hear if you talk to a plant it helps it grow. That may be because you are breathing carbon dioxide out on it.
it may help the whole breathing on plants thing but i just had a thought about that classical music thing which if you do play the music in a high enough volume the air vibrations in a typical classic music rhythm or bpm and the combinations of high and low frequencies can stimulate growth in some way like more efficient fluid transfer across the plant or i don't know but something. that's just my couple minute thought of how this could actually exist :)
a study actually shows plants do react to sound as long as its loud. There was an increase of growth in a pea plant when loud sound was being played vs ones with no sound.
About that Mozart thing, I figure the plants would feel the vibrations in the air and respond to those. Now whether that reaction is significant or positive is what I'd be interested in
Exactly the comment I was going to make. I think he sells them a little short here :) It has been shown to indeed affect the plants, and as a plant lover and grower, I have tried it myself. Problem is having a control is not always available. Also, the idea that plants are not conscious because they do not have ears and eyes is also a but short thinking, as we only know what we as humans define as conscious. I am more likely the believe our elders (the plants) are far superior in intelligence to us newcomers. But we like to think we think all the thinking ;)
+carpo719 Please stop mumbling pseudoscience nonsense. Conscience requires a brain with enormous complexity. Plants not only do not have that but they don't have a similar structure either. Just because it's alive does not mean it's sentient. Try reasoning with a cell.
+Feynstein 100 It doesn't necessarily require a brain nor does it require being able to communicate or even think. Consciousness is really just being able to receive information and have a feeling, understanding of self. Of course this is the philosophical definition of consciousness that's proved with tautology. Scientifically yeah, plants aren't conscious also not: most if not all animals and small children.
3NGIN33R Communication is very simple, even atoms can "communicate" with each other. But thinking is very complicated and does require a brain. Consciousness is being aware of one's *surroundings* whereas sentience is being aware of *oneself*. And any form of awareness requires a nervous system with at least some level of complexity. Water will move from upstream to downstream. It reacts to its surroundings but that does not mean it's aware of it. Plants only react to their surroundings. There's no way for them to *understand* what it is. Take robots. They can navigate their environments, process the information they receive and react accordingly. Does that mean they're conscious? Does that mean they have feelings?
Person: **Smells flowers** Ah... Fresh O2 and some nice blooming aroma **Waters the plant** Flower: **Smells person** Ah.... Fresh CO2 and some nice H2O
Many years ago there was a Mythbusters episode in which they experimented with the effects of sound/music on plants. Their results showed that plants exposed to music or any type of sound grew better than the group of plants without any exposurer to music/sound. Their results also showed that the plants didn't care if it was heavy metal or someone screaming or classical music. Perhaps plants sense vibrations of sound and not the sound itself.
You say plants are deaf, but I'm sure some of them react and grow differently to vibrations? So a bit of music played and singing to could have effects :P Also we have theories about consciousness but no real certainty... I think it's a possibility that applying one's consciousness to other presumed-less-conscious beings could have a consciousness granting effect. And if with living animals, why not living plants...
For anyone wondering about what plant was the one with the closing leaves... it's called a mimosa tree and mostly grows in warmer places. It even blooms beautiful pink flowers. 🌺
1. Plant have gravity sensing cells that orient the roots & shoots even in darkness 2. Plat shoot tips have photo-sensitive cells that guide them to light 3. Plan leaves can sense the wavelength of light, and detect seasons by measuring the length of days & nights 4. Ethylene is used to ripen fruits, coordinated ripening attracts more animals to disperse seeds 5. Plants signal to each other when harmed using volatile chemicals 6. Plants have thermal, pain, and pressure receptors
Plants actually aren't deaf (though they certainly don't hear the way we do). Researchers have done experiments where they played a recording of caterpillars eating plants and plants exposed to the sounds of predators released chemical defenses as well as distress signals.
Mr. (not Dr) Backster claims to have a DSc. in _"Complementary Medicine"_ from Medicina Alternativa (an unaccredited diploma mill based in Sri Lanka). He used his "doctorate" to get a position at the "California Institute for Human Science Graduate School and Research Center", an unaccredited institution for the study of _"the human being as tridimensional."_ Polygraphing plants is no big deal for that woo factory :) The false results were caused by a complete lack of controls for environmental factors such as static, wind, humidity and the like - and, of course, a large dollop of confirmation bias.
Hang some toilet paper from a shelf and then go to punch the paper while wearing a boxing glove. Don't actually hit it - just stop short. Notice how the paper tries to move away from the threat. Toilet paper therefore has ESP and a fear of being punched. Plants use toilet paper ESP to move away under similar conditions too. It might sometimes show up in a polygraph with plants, but toilet paper has been trained to resist all attempts to read its mind. :) _(Wind? Who said wind? Sssshhh. You'll ruin the totally bias-free paper I'm writing)_
*facepalm* he just explained, chemical reactions, that allow the plant to thrive. Yes they do think, but just not what we'd typically call thinking, just as animals think but animals do not think in the exact same way we do just as plants do not.
Stephanie C Polygraphs don't actually measure anything relevant to plants.they measure things like heart rate and are meant to do so to detect lies(which doesn't work) so it would be like using a telescope to look at an atom,won't give you useful data.Plants have no nervous system so not unless each cell is sentient,and even then they would need internal nervous organelles,they don't feel or think.
Fascinating. A few years ago I remember being alone in the living room when the small-to-medium potted plant with spiky leaves we had suddenly started trembling. As I watched, all of its body began violently shaking, and although this wasn't strong enough to move its heavy pot, it was enough to create a loud rattling noise for a short while. This freaked me out so much I jumped straight up and ran out of the room. For ages after I was convinced it had been possessed or something. To this day I have no idea what happened and I haven't experienced it with another plant since. Has anyone had something similar?
They say uh huh but its true and i found a flower that is wild but i think invasive.. Its purple and tall with opposite leaves. They also have 3 petals.. And produce a purple dei when wet. It blooms in the morning and closed at dawn
"Assume that, improbable as it seems, researchers do turn up evidence suggesting that plants feel pain. It would still not follow that we may as well eat what we have always eaten. If we must inflict pain or starve, we would then have to choose the lesser evil. Presumably it would still be true that plants suffer less than animals, and therefore it would still be better to eat plants than to eat animals. Indeed this conclusion would follow even if plants were as sensitive as animals, since the inefficiency of meat production means that those who eat meat are responsible for the indirect destruction of at least ten times as many plants as are vegetarians! At this point, I admit, the argument becomes farcical, and I have pursued it this far only to show that those who raise this objection but fail to follow out its implications are really just looking for an excuse to go on eating meat." - from Peter Singer's "Animal Liberation"
Things live and things die. This is the circle of life. The issue is not whether we should or shouldn't eat plants or animals, it's in balancing _how_ we acquire what we consume.
Disagree. I'm not interested in whether pain or compassion are factors in a diet. Food is food. Animals are food. Plants are food. I eat what I like and sometimes what I don't. The end.
no as in it takes more plants to produce meat meaning it is unsustainable, 85% of plant food grown in the U.S. goes into animal agriculture, it would only take half of the food that goes into animal agriculture to feed all of the people in the U.S.. If there was no animal agriculture in the U.S. then supply of plant-based food would dramatically rise and prices would drop, probably wouldn't have people going hungry on the streets, but idk that might be too civilized for humans to adopt
Yeah humans are also a big chunk of meat so lets just eat each other instead of some plants which don't even know that they are living (i.e. don't experience consciousness)..
A cow eats 16x as much plants as a human being would. Not to mention that up to 91% of rainforrest destruction is due to animal agriculture. Think before you speak, go vegan.
Feynstein 100 If a meat eater agrees with a vegan, they agree that they themselves are hypocrites and on the wrong path. Thus needing to change. But most people don't want to make a simple lifestyle change to save their own species, the planet and the animals. A sad life they live.
that's not a scientific experiment, they wouldn't know statistical significance if it fucked their mothers, had children and made a new family without them.
"Hur hur, I'm going to go into the comment section of a video I didn't even pay attention to. So I can insult some people that are trying to make the world a better place. Just because I'm a selfish prick who likes to eat bacon and I need to justify my position" - People thinking they're clever criticizing Vegans here
To all the highly predictable anti-vegans: Reactionary "feelings" are not the same thing as sentience and consiousness. Plants are the perfect example of this. Further - it takes many, many times more plant matter (as well as money, water, space and energy, for that matter) to sustain a meat-based diet. Good day~ :3
@@PoppyHapalopus Oh, and don't just take my word for it - google is your friend. None of this is "without scientific reason". There's no shortage of scientific data behind the rise of veganism - whether one's motives are ethical, enviromental, or just better health.
There's a plant that sees and actually can mimic other plants (boquila trifoliolata). Also that "sensitive plant" can remember and choose when the leaves close. Check experiment by Monica Gagliano
balance and proportional diet by consuming vegetable and meat is the key, but hardly anyone want to listen... either people eat meat excessively or compete with herbivores
Even eating vegetables and meat isn't a proper diet. Your body needs specific nutrients, and if you're only eating vegetables and meat you're missing out on a lot of important things for a healthy diet. It's the nutrients that are important, not the food groups.
At the end they played mozart but showed the cover of Plantasia by Mort Garson? If you're reading this, you should check out that album, it's really good.
Actually, that's backwards. Sentience requires perception or feeling. And plants feel, so therefore they are sentient. By definition. (If you think not, provide an alternative definition for "sentience".)
Electrons do feel. If they could not perceive other objects.... physics would not work. There must be a way that the fundamental building blocks of reality interact with each other.... and in order to interact with each other they must be able to *perceive* each other. If they can't interact, like neutrinos for example, it's like the other one isn't even there.
***** They actually do have sensory "organ". The perception mechanism are force carrier particles. I'm not saying electrons are "sentient"... I saying that the interpret information about the external environment. This is perception. Plenty of things do not have a nervous system and still perceive.... for example plants. To think that a nervous system is required is like saying human-like lungs are required to breathe. It's specist.
I'm just saying that you saying that an entity needs to have a nervous system is specist. It's not about electrons... Plants, bacteria, etc. they have perception and are living things, but w/o nervous systems like humans have. definition: *perception* "the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses" So if electrons have the ability to sense, which is by definition perception.
What's also a fun fact is that some plants have an hierachy system. A while ago they were rebuilding the park behind my house, and I heard they had to consider the hierachy of the trees in it, for the choice which tree to cut and which not, for it could ruin the park if you did it wrong (this also sort of happened in our yard for years; my parents chopped down a tree and for years sprouts would get up to try to grow to the 'main plant'. The tree that does get to grow (and grow the biggest) will stay and grow, will the other sprouts would slowly die and disappear. It depends on the type of tree too. Pine trees work a lot different than oaks). Another tree thing I've learnt, is that if you cut off a branch, you'd preferable have to do it in winter, because the tree is 'sleeping'. I don't know much about this one, so enlighten me if you know why :D
That mythbusters episode that plants do indeed grow better is weird. One explanation could be that the vibrations in the air help speed up gas exchange. It could be something worthy of further investigation. Maybe it could help in greenhouses to have sub oral speakers.
This video does not prove that plants are sentient, therefore should not be eaten. It proves that they have an extremely intricate chemical system they have developped over time through evolution that makes it look like they can think. But can they feel pain ? do they have emotions like fear, love or anger ? I think not.
So you believe that they cannot think but have no actual proof. The honest answer is we don't know if they think or not but there is a significant chance that they do. As for emotions, well we can't really tell if the majority of animals have them either. An squid is intelligent but lacking the social structure of mammalian species does not display behaviours we would associate with emotions either. How about ants, what are their emotional abilities? Also, sentience and intelligence and emotion are three difference concepts and not at all interchangeable. Human children are not fully sentient until about the age of 8 and have no real sentience as infants for example.
+Surma Sampo There is absolutely no evidence that plants have any manner of sentience and plenty of evidence that they don't -- namely that they lack a nervous system of any sort.
+Surma Sampo And you're confusing sentience with sapience (presumably.) Though even then I'm not confused as to where you're getting this 8 year old idea from. Do you have sensory organs that send messages to a neural network? Congrats, you're sentient. Which is an intimately connected requisite for intelligence and emotion (in many various forms at many various scales, granted, but still.)
Plants are living creatures. They move just like animals but too slow for our naked eyes to detect. Play it fast motion and you see how much alive they are
The channel is It's okay to be smart, except all the meat eaters understood that plants feel pain and suffer and think. Hard thing to do without a brain. But fear not meat eaters, think a little bit, even if it hurts.
First off, plants don't feel pain, nor do they think. Science has proven that many times. Secondly, you know what we know feels pain? Animals, and that you guys don't give a damn says a lot about how you are as a human being. Thirdly, vegans and vegetarians don't eat plants. What, you think they stroll around in the forest ripping plants and butchering them? They eat the same thing as you, except for the meat. Beans and fruits and vegetables are not plants, they are what the plants give us (they actually need mammals to eat the fruits and vegetables to take their seeds). Also, it's quite sad that one day people use to thank animals for their flesh, now it's just dumb fucks who clearly don't respect other lives than their own.
Funny how you Vegans see us (us = 99.8% of world population) as savages who only eat meat for a living. We also eat plants you know! Meat eaters more like omnivores!
Milk is designed as food, honey too, also fruits and mushrooms (in some cases), so they don't die of hunger if they eat things designed as food offerings by nature. Salt at whim, it's mineral.
@@LuisAldamiz I could've said a better and a more constructive response, but I just thought about writing the word "no" independently without any other subjects or any other clauses, as it gave me a smirk, and I thought I would send it. Anyways my intentions here is just to remind everyone that this is the RUclips comments section, no one should write any formal essays or any formal anything. (I'm obviously joking, the comment that we replied on was my friend's so i thought it was cool that somebody responded.)
Since the video showed that there's no evidence that plants can think, and since it's absurd to think that anything without a brain can think, vegans will continue as before. How is this confusing for guilt-ridden flesh-eaters?
I'd suggest fruit: fruit is designed by plants to be eaten and thus carry their seed. They can also try nectar (which you can steal from bees in the form of honey) and milk (which you can steal from various animals). But vegans hate not only to kill animals but also stealing from them what is actually designed as food (also cows kill plants or at least harm them, so it's ethically complicated). Also mushrooms, they are also meant to be eaten in many cases. Milk, honey, fruits and mushooms, you can add salt because that's mineral. Sounds OK enough but beware about avitaminosis D.
Plants feel and react to pain, but don't tell vegetarians that. They wouldn't believe it because then they'd be forced to re-evaluate their reasons for not eating meat.
Feynstein 100 No, my logic isn't that everything feels pain. Not everything actively reacts to damage. In fact, most things in the universe don't. As for what's stopping me from eating humans: empathy.
IceMetalPunk Exactly. My logic is simple: plants don't feel pain. So we can eat them. Animals do. So we can't. BTW most humans have empathy for animals, too. They'll still eat them.
Sami Aguis "if plants are affected by being cut then they are ''sentient'' " What makes you say that? Is your computer sentient because it is affected by your key presses? Why not?
+Modus Ponens Well because the great vegan ''preachers'' say that any organism that is affected and can feel pain is aware and sentient but I think it's stupid and you have brought a great argument in this conversation.
Sami Aguis So if I'm following you correctly, you're saying it would be flawed to say: 'affected by being cut' -> 'sentient' I think it's safe to agree with you there, though I'm not sure that would be a good argument against veganism.
@It's Okay to Be Smart Did the 0:35 - refer to ESP only or both ESP and potential of being sentient? This video explains how plants work and sense things but are they machines that do this things automaticly or is this something more. Is the alarm to protect yourself just a good evolutionary process or is this more like care? Because a lot of insects seem dumber than that hey maybe some fish and birds too. But we consider them sentient. I know that sentience isn't binary per say it's a spectrum and sentience of a wolf is different form that of a badger or a snake.
Very interesting video! Thanks. And also, at the end of the video, the last piece of music played is Mozart's Orchestral composition Marriage of Fiaggo. 🎵🎶👍 (It has a very fun viola part in it that I loved playing in my orchestra. Mozart is one of my favorites, too!.)
Hello, my name is Daisy, I am not human, I'm just a plant, I was created in a scientific laboratory. I changed my shape to live among humans as a normal girl, but in fact I am an alien plant.
It’s been proven that plants CAN hear. If you play a audio recording of water. the roots will grow towards the sounds every time. PBS doesn’t get everything right but most of it yes. Not everything they say as law. Just a tip. My source for this info is by radio labs “smarty plants” look it up on RUclips it’s a podcast
Yo, regarding that last part about Mozart- I did some absolutely amateurish research for a school project bout a century ago- I did learn that playing music without distortion helped plants' pores open up better or more in some way. At which point you might think that getting a sine wave generators and just finding the pores' preferred frequency to increase growth or efficiency, but I'd assume the change is negligible.
Mythbusters did a plant+music+voice experiment. (As I recall they screwed it up by not checking that the drip system was working.) The results they did get seemed to show that plants preferred heavy metal over classical music, or soft, kind words, or shouted words. I guess this group of plants were metalheads
I have to make an investigation for my biology class, I'm doing it on geotropism thanks to this video. Thank you for sharing so much beautiful and interesting information!, I'll stay curious.
Good video, I believe that when you debunk something it will be better to go beyond saying or implying is “nonsense”. In this case an explanation of the results of the polygraph tests will do.
This is fascinating! We really can't answer the question of whether plants are sentient, because sentience is unobservable. Sure, we can look for signs we associate with it, but because sentience is observation itself, the only way to truly know whether an entity is sentient is to be that entity. We can't know if plants are aware of any of this. However! I'm coming from a perspective of nonduality. Basically I think that consciousness is a property of the universe different from but inseparable from the material, sort of like the time-space continuum (in fact, I'm open to the idea that it's one aspect of the time-space continuum). This would answer the hard problem of consciousness inherent in monism (i.e. there's no logical step by which strictly material reagents can produce an immaterial product) and the combination problem of panpsychism (i.e. how does material with a very basic level of consciousness create a more sophisticated form of consciousness?). If you ask me whether inanimate objects have conscious experience, my answer is no, because... I would say that that which perceives is there, but, without internal chemical reaction, there's no change, and thus nothing to experience. But plants have remained a question for me. The fact that they have resistance to injury suggests pain, which... There's the question of whether consciousness has any causative effect on the material, and it's pain that makes me think yes. Because someone who doesn't experience pain will not pull their hand away from a flame like someone who does (there's actually at least one person like this). So there's a reaction there that doesn't happen without awareness. Granted, in a case like that, the brain isn't reacting like in someone who does feel pain, but... I think what I'm getting at is that asking if an unconscious brain would react the same way is a nonsense question, if consciousness is everywhere. As for plants, I don't think they think like us, but I do think they experience on a basic level.
They might be deaf, but still interpret / receive the vibrations coming from sound. We also not only hear the music, but also feel it. Loud noise can cause health problems even when the ears are covered
Guy: man these flowers sure do smell nice
Flowers: this homo sapien sure does smell nice
LOL you even you the scientific name for humans 😂
Haha good joke
Lol
Do we even smell nice???
@@vivirin2729 depends on the person
Two things about them being "deaf": study after study has shown that plants grow better with sound. However it doesn't matter what sound. In fact screamo works best just because of how noisy it is. Second: what about the telegraph plant?? It's literally been nicknamed the "dancing plant" because of the fact that its leaves move around when there is sound.
I think plants can detect vibration, and that impacts its growth, and in the case of the telegraph plant, causes movement.
glad to hear this. I have a bunch of plants in my bedroom, where I blast deathmetal all the time haha just doing my part in helping my plants live long, healthy lives!
Good that someone underlined this: hearing is just a specialized form of tact (pressure sensing) and plants definitely have that, so they should have some sort of "hearing" even if not at all like ours.
My poinsettia named Sprout got so tired of me practicing my piano scales, teaching myself to learn the 1-4-6-5 chord on the table next to her, that she emitted some type of very faint smell that I was seriously allergic to!
So they obviously can perceive sound and many other things in nature!
@@ImehSmith lol
P R E A C H =)
I don't even understand how anything works anymore. Nature is awesome!
indeed :3 if I was you I'd hug a tree next time you see one for being awesome! ^^
You can thank God and evolution.
Soon, plants will make a video called:”can humans think?”🌿
Weed edition
Plants get humans to think for them. That's why wheat, rice, corn, and other plants domesticated us.
😂Yep..# eagerly waiting
Research is saying that plants RESPOND TO THOUGHTS?!
I'm sure they would think that they wouldn't think so, That Vegan Teacher would be the reason though
beethoven was deaf too. Didnt stop him from loving music.
He wasn't actually
Really. Thinking that music can only be received by auditory means, is akin to thinking that the benefits of sunlight can only be received when sunbathing.
true
Bahahaha
Pol Pot plenty of deaf born people love music due to being able to feel its vibration. You still get a catchy rhythm regardless.
My hippy mate once said to me we all look at trees like their big solid things that sit in the ground and don't move, but from their point of view trees live for hundreds of years so to them their roots are wiggling around at normal speed and we zoom past at ridiculous speeds and die within a few minutes like bacteria
Yeah.. except for when the bacteria lumbers down whole forests in like a few seconds and makes houses, tables and boxes out of your dead bodies. :)
we are like viruses to them
@@casual_ice_consumer4148 Just hate those viruses that turn people into furniture :P
bigbrendo69 Your mate is brilliant!
That was deep
Boy u need at least 5 million subs
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lol
He is a mix of SciShow and Veritasium, so I could easily see him having atleast few million subscribers
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Nope.
I never heard about the classical music trick, but I did hear if you talk to a plant it helps it grow. That may be because you are breathing carbon dioxide out on it.
That is a reasonable hypothesis. If only the rest of RUclips was like you.
it may help the whole breathing on plants thing but i just had a thought about that classical music thing which if you do play the music in a high enough volume the air vibrations in a typical classic music rhythm or bpm and the combinations of high and low frequencies can stimulate growth in some way like more efficient fluid transfer across the plant or i don't know but something.
that's just my couple minute thought of how this could actually exist :)
+Noam Stanger mythbusters tested this iirc
and came to the conclusion that it was plausible.
Haha I just mentioned this elsewhere. The ones listening to death metal grew best, didn't they?
yes, plants take in carbon dioxide along with water and light to make energy.
it helps if you yell at them to grow faster
a study actually shows plants do react to sound as long as its loud. There was an increase of growth in a pea plant when loud sound was being played vs ones with no sound.
isnt it basically a heavy vibration at that point?
@@fartyfat6539 this
I for one welcome our knew plant overloards
You better hope they don't know how to spell.
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+Lewis Wright XD
+Lewis Wright - I new you'd day that. :)
maybe it was a cleaver pun on "do plants think?" ....hhmmmm?
4:48 In my country we call those makahiya plants, meaning "shy"
wow how cool is that crazy theif plant! also should have included those fly trap pants they're fun to play with :)
don't play with fly traps. It's harming the plant :C
@@missquprison TEAM PLANTS KILL ANIMALS
thief?
Title: Do plants think?
Video: No!
The end
Shut up plant, I can't hear you LALALALLALA
Peridot, are you okay?
"No!"
Harambe' Father IRL
I never said anything, _ever_.
Video: No, for now
Over the garden wall! yay!
About that Mozart thing, I figure the plants would feel the vibrations in the air and respond to those. Now whether that reaction is significant or positive is what I'd be interested in
Exactly the comment I was going to make. I think he sells them a little short here :) It has been shown to indeed affect the plants, and as a plant lover and grower, I have tried it myself. Problem is having a control is not always available. Also, the idea that plants are not conscious because they do not have ears and eyes is also a but short thinking, as we only know what we as humans define as conscious. I am more likely the believe our elders (the plants) are far superior in intelligence to us newcomers. But we like to think we think all the thinking ;)
+carpo719 Please stop mumbling pseudoscience nonsense. Conscience requires a brain with enormous complexity. Plants not only do not have that but they don't have a similar structure either. Just because it's alive does not mean it's sentient. Try reasoning with a cell.
+Feynstein 100 It doesn't necessarily require a brain nor does it require being able to communicate or even think. Consciousness is really just being able to receive information and have a feeling, understanding of self. Of course this is the philosophical definition of consciousness that's proved with tautology. Scientifically yeah, plants aren't conscious also not: most if not all animals and small children.
3NGIN33R Communication is very simple, even atoms can "communicate" with each other. But thinking is very complicated and does require a brain. Consciousness is being aware of one's *surroundings* whereas sentience is being aware of *oneself*. And any form of awareness requires a nervous system with at least some level of complexity. Water will move from upstream to downstream. It reacts to its surroundings but that does not mean it's aware of it. Plants only react to their surroundings. There's no way for them to *understand* what it is. Take robots. They can navigate their environments, process the information they receive and react accordingly. Does that mean they're conscious? Does that mean they have feelings?
+Feynstein 100 not yet at least no :p
Person: **Smells flowers** Ah... Fresh O2 and some nice blooming aroma **Waters the plant**
Flower: **Smells person** Ah.... Fresh CO2 and some nice H2O
Stolen but you made it original
Many years ago there was a Mythbusters episode in which they experimented with the effects of sound/music on plants. Their results showed that plants exposed to music or any type of sound grew better than the group of plants without any exposurer to music/sound. Their results also showed that the plants didn't care if it was heavy metal or someone screaming or classical music. Perhaps plants sense vibrations of sound and not the sound itself.
You say plants are deaf, but I'm sure some of them react and grow differently to vibrations? So a bit of music played and singing to could have effects :P Also we have theories about consciousness but no real certainty... I think it's a possibility that applying one's consciousness to other presumed-less-conscious beings could have a consciousness granting effect. And if with living animals, why not living plants...
3:48 NEVER REPEAT THAT EVER AGAIN !!!
How did I miss that 😂
oh god...
oh my.... 😂
what happened?
slurp...
For anyone wondering about what plant was the one with the closing leaves... it's called a mimosa tree and mostly grows in warmer places. It even blooms beautiful pink flowers. 🌺
It's amazing how HIGHLY EVOLVED plants are.
Dont tell that to a vegan.....
5:56 we always called it sleepy grass in the playground.
Was wondering why (some)plants grow faster with loud music than with soft music. Could it be that vibrations promote the flow of juices in the plant?
Great original video
***** God!!
1. Plant have gravity sensing cells that orient the roots & shoots even in darkness
2. Plat shoot tips have photo-sensitive cells that guide them to light
3. Plan leaves can sense the wavelength of light, and detect seasons by measuring the length of days & nights
4. Ethylene is used to ripen fruits, coordinated ripening attracts more animals to disperse seeds
5. Plants signal to each other when harmed using volatile chemicals
6. Plants have thermal, pain, and pressure receptors
Plants actually aren't deaf (though they certainly don't hear the way we do). Researchers have done experiments where they played a recording of caterpillars eating plants and plants exposed to the sounds of predators released chemical defenses as well as distress signals.
So what caused the false results with the polygraph?
Interesting question, I think most people forgot about that
I saw this myth busted in MythBusters, it was because of his loud voice and sounds he was making.
Mr. (not Dr) Backster claims to have a DSc. in _"Complementary Medicine"_ from Medicina Alternativa (an unaccredited diploma mill based in Sri Lanka). He used his "doctorate" to get a position at the "California Institute for Human Science Graduate School and Research Center", an unaccredited institution for the study of _"the human being as tridimensional."_ Polygraphing plants is no big deal for that woo factory :)
The false results were caused by a complete lack of controls for environmental factors such as static, wind, humidity and the like - and, of course, a large dollop of confirmation bias.
Hang some toilet paper from a shelf and then go to punch the paper while wearing a boxing glove. Don't actually hit it - just stop short. Notice how the paper tries to move away from the threat. Toilet paper therefore has ESP and a fear of being punched. Plants use toilet paper ESP to move away under similar conditions too. It might sometimes show up in a polygraph with plants, but toilet paper has been trained to resist all attempts to read its mind. :)
_(Wind? Who said wind? Sssshhh. You'll ruin the totally bias-free paper I'm writing)_
*facepalm* he just explained, chemical reactions, that allow the plant to thrive. Yes they do think, but just not what we'd typically call thinking, just as animals think but animals do not think in the exact same way we do just as plants do not.
It said in the beginning that plants responded to harmful intent, but I don't feel like that was discussed or given explanation?
Stephanie C Polygraphs don't actually measure anything relevant to plants.they measure things like heart rate and are meant to do so to detect lies(which doesn't work) so it would be like using a telescope to look at an atom,won't give you useful data.Plants have no nervous system so not unless each cell is sentient,and even then they would need internal nervous organelles,they don't feel or think.
In my country, we call the sensitive plant "dormideira", wich means something like "sleepy plant" x3
we call them "shy old ladies"
And which country might that be?
+Feynstein 100 Jamaica but probably other caribbean countries as well.
Andrew Smith Hahaha I actually read you post earlier. I was referring to the OP. :P
We call them 'Mimose' something like "easily sad/insulted"
Fascinating. A few years ago I remember being alone in the living room when the small-to-medium potted plant with spiky leaves we had suddenly started trembling. As I watched, all of its body began violently shaking, and although this wasn't strong enough to move its heavy pot, it was enough to create a loud rattling noise for a short while. This freaked me out so much I jumped straight up and ran out of the room. For ages after I was convinced it had been possessed or something. To this day I have no idea what happened and I haven't experienced it with another plant since.
Has anyone had something similar?
Pinocchio plant just wanted to be a real boy :(
All kidding aside, this made me extremely curious
woah, wasn't expecting that Plantasia shoutout at 5:25 great album by Mort Garson
Some flowers close at Night
Bastian Jacobsen uh huh...
They say uh huh but its true and i found a flower that is wild but i think invasive.. Its purple and tall with opposite leaves. They also have 3 petals.. And produce a purple dei when wet. It blooms in the morning and closed at dawn
"Assume that, improbable as it seems, researchers do turn up evidence suggesting that plants feel pain. It would still not follow that we may as well eat what we have always eaten. If we must inflict pain or starve, we would then have to choose the lesser evil. Presumably it would still be true that plants suffer less than animals, and therefore it would still be better to eat plants than to eat animals. Indeed this conclusion would follow even if plants were as sensitive as animals, since the inefficiency of meat production means that those who eat meat are responsible for the indirect destruction of at least ten times as many plants as are vegetarians! At this point, I admit, the argument becomes farcical, and I have pursued it this far only to show that those who raise this objection but fail to follow out its implications are really just looking for an excuse to go on eating meat." - from Peter Singer's "Animal Liberation"
As a meat eater, I kinda have to agree with you there.
Actually harvesting crops kill many animals. Mice and such. So by eating plants you are killing animals
Things live and things die. This is the circle of life. The issue is not whether we should or shouldn't eat plants or animals, it's in balancing _how_ we acquire what we consume.
Disagree. I'm not interested in whether pain or compassion are factors in a diet. Food is food. Animals are food. Plants are food. I eat what I like and sometimes what I don't. The end.
Then you are a horrible person. I could say the same thing to justify eating humans, or anything, really.
Plant have feeling too! #plantslivesmatter
#Ok
#Hashtag
+Anoni Aris YOU ARE A MURDERER
A CRUEL PLANT MURDERER
Fuck plants, I cut my grass every month
if u care about plants why not go vegan
I've been wondering how plants knew which way was up. So glad you answered it for me!
Good one! I've watched longer, more detailed videos on plant "consciousness," but you covered most of it, succinctly.
why do vegans slaughter these innocent plants?
Hunger, maybe.
***** I love plants. They look really good on my dinner plate, next to chunks of the animals I love. :)
Why do meat eaters slaughter more innocent plants?
Vegan Humor Because the plate isn't complete without some vegetables on the side.
no as in it takes more plants to produce meat meaning it is unsustainable, 85% of plant food grown in the U.S. goes into animal agriculture, it would only take half of the food that goes into animal agriculture to feed all of the people in the U.S.. If there was no animal agriculture in the U.S. then supply of plant-based food would dramatically rise and prices would drop, probably wouldn't have people going hungry on the streets, but idk that might be too civilized for humans to adopt
In Puerto Rico we call the sensitive plant “morivivir” (short for morir y vivir)
Reminds me of the videogame "Resident Evil 4". :)
(There are some creepy enemies mumbling the phrase "Morir es vivir." over and over again.)
Plants grow better when you blast death metal.
That's because they're deaf and can't hear the music but all poor parasites on them die because of the music.
I wish that could work in society :D
Actually in tests death metal kills plants.
Jack Da Money Hence the name, right?
I think that the vibrations make is easier for nutrients to be to be transported across the plant through the xylems and phloems
We are prone to judge plants to be sentient due to our anthropomorphism. They accomplish these amazing feats due to evolution. Plants evolve too.
Plants are awesome, I love botany! Thanks for the video.
Vegans want you to believe plants don't have feelings.
Yeah man. Let's just eat animals instead. Including humans. What could go wrong?
Yeah humans are also a big chunk of meat so lets just eat each other instead of some plants which don't even know that they are living (i.e. don't experience consciousness)..
A cow eats 16x as much plants as a human being would.
Not to mention that up to 91% of rainforrest destruction is due to animal agriculture.
Think before you speak, go vegan.
Isabella Hl Yep. I can't believe people are so retarded as to say "Save plants, eat animals". What they hell do they think feeds the animals?
Feynstein 100 If a meat eater agrees with a vegan, they agree that they themselves are hypocrites and on the wrong path. Thus needing to change. But most people don't want to make a simple lifestyle change to save their own species, the planet and the animals. A sad life they live.
4:47, that plant here in phillipines, is called "hiyahiya" which means, "shy" (i guess).
Makahiya, actually. I'm also Filipino. 🇵🇭
Mythbusters had made an experiment proving that plants do listen, and they prefer music, especially metal.
it is just the pattern of sound waves, not the actual music
How can they know that they feel good or bad?
No they didn't. Their results were inconclusive due to a technical malfunction during the experiment.
that's not a scientific experiment, they wouldn't know statistical significance if it fucked their mothers, had children and made a new family without them.
I have a physalis plant, it’s my first ever plant! Gift from a child I used to work with. I’m going to keep it forever!!!
Learning a little more periodically is more fun with this man
we need to consume living things to survive ...The end
We don't need to consume animals to survive. Case closed.
We still use lab rats for testing medicines, so please stop taking any kind of medication.
you're a dumb loser, plants don't have consciousness or brains, they have automatic reactions like sperm cells.
ndrthrdr1 stop living in houses or driving cars. The both contain animal products.
megin na False. There are studies showing plants experience emotions. Your arguement is because they are not like humans it doesn't count.
"Hur hur, I'm going to go into the comment section of a video I didn't even pay attention to. So I can insult some people that are trying to make the world a better place. Just because I'm a selfish prick who likes to eat bacon and I need to justify my position" - People thinking they're clever criticizing Vegans here
If they are deaf, what causes the correlation with plant being screamed at to have stunted growth?
Heather D.
I think it’s the vibrations in the air
And that is exactly what sound is: vibrations in the air (or other media).
You should have mentioned that Mort Garson album you threw in at the end, it's actually fantastic
Completely change my way of dealing plants . Thanks Bro !!
Actually they've found that classical music helps plants grow and some music even kills plants.
Maybe that's how Death Metal got it's name.
Random dude: "I AM GOING TO KILL YOUUUUUU"
Plant: "hm yes photons tastes gud hm yes"
To all the highly predictable anti-vegans: Reactionary "feelings" are not the same thing as sentience and consiousness. Plants are the perfect example of this.
Further - it takes many, many times more plant matter (as well as money, water, space and energy, for that matter) to sustain a meat-based diet.
Good day~ :3
You could argue that the first point covers animals as well as plants. Statements without scientific reason don't matter in discussions like this
@@PoppyHapalopus Oh, and don't just take my word for it - google is your friend. None of this is "without scientific reason". There's no shortage of scientific data behind the rise of veganism - whether one's motives are ethical, enviromental, or just better health.
There's a plant that sees and actually can mimic other plants (boquila trifoliolata). Also that "sensitive plant" can remember and choose when the leaves close. Check experiment by Monica Gagliano
I love this channel so golly gosh darn much 🙂👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
balance and proportional diet by consuming vegetable and meat is the key, but hardly anyone want to listen...
either people eat meat excessively or compete with herbivores
Even eating vegetables and meat isn't a proper diet. Your body needs specific nutrients, and if you're only eating vegetables and meat you're missing out on a lot of important things for a healthy diet. It's the nutrients that are important, not the food groups.
crazyguywithasword go ahead eat nutrients and not eating both meat and vegetables, let's if you're healthy
He was just saying that a diet consisting of only vegetable and meats are not sufficient to be healthy.
A-10 Thunderbolt II then why I'm still healthy?
Oswald Rayleigh I don't f*cking know, dude, I am just clarifying what he said. Why does youtube always feel the need to argue over everything?
Who else scrolled into the comments just to play spot the vegan?
me😆
I'm on an all vegan diet, you just have to be quick to hit them over the head before they realise the word play.
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Welp ya found me
No vegan comments, only meat eaters who are trying to defend thier choice of killing.
no
yes !
maybe
Maybe
It's classified
who knows
At the end they played mozart but showed the cover of Plantasia by Mort Garson? If you're reading this, you should check out that album, it's really good.
One of the best videos on your channel so far :D
**nervous thatveganteacher noises**
veganism isn't concerned with plants, but with sentient beings.
Plants still not feeling pain though. The question is sentience, you came to the video just to comment this?
I stopped to making fun of plants since I watch The Happening
Plants perceive.
Even electrons perceive.
Actually, that's backwards. Sentience requires perception or feeling. And plants feel, so therefore they are sentient. By definition. (If you think not, provide an alternative definition for "sentience".)
Electrons do feel.
If they could not perceive other objects.... physics would not work.
There must be a way that the fundamental building blocks of reality interact with each other.... and in order to interact with each other they must be able to *perceive* each other.
If they can't interact, like neutrinos for example, it's like the other one isn't even there.
Yup exactly this, it depresses me that such things need to be explained.*****
***** They actually do have sensory "organ". The perception mechanism are force carrier particles.
I'm not saying electrons are "sentient"... I saying that the interpret information about the external environment. This is perception.
Plenty of things do not have a nervous system and still perceive.... for example plants. To think that a nervous system is required is like saying human-like lungs are required to breathe. It's specist.
I'm just saying that you saying that an entity needs to have a nervous system is specist.
It's not about electrons...
Plants, bacteria, etc. they have perception and are living things, but w/o nervous systems like humans have.
definition: *perception*
"the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses"
So if electrons have the ability to sense, which is by definition perception.
What's also a fun fact is that some plants have an hierachy system. A while ago they were rebuilding the park behind my house, and I heard they had to consider the hierachy of the trees in it, for the choice which tree to cut and which not, for it could ruin the park if you did it wrong (this also sort of happened in our yard for years; my parents chopped down a tree and for years sprouts would get up to try to grow to the 'main plant'. The tree that does get to grow (and grow the biggest) will stay and grow, will the other sprouts would slowly die and disappear.
It depends on the type of tree too. Pine trees work a lot different than oaks).
Another tree thing I've learnt, is that if you cut off a branch, you'd preferable have to do it in winter, because the tree is 'sleeping'. I don't know much about this one, so enlighten me if you know why :D
That mythbusters episode that plants do indeed grow better is weird. One explanation could be that the vibrations in the air help speed up gas exchange. It could be something worthy of further investigation. Maybe it could help in greenhouses to have sub oral speakers.
Vegans, don't be religious !!
Veganism is becoming a religion !!
Support balanceddiet, containing both meat and vegetables.
Dude, just take a minute and go to the bathroom already. It looks like you have to pee.
Adrian Fahrenheit ii
lol
Maybe he just drunk a ton of coffee
Which made him have to go pee
Really does
See Vegans ? You should stop eating, at all.
A cow eats 16x as much plants as a human.
Not to mention up to 91% of rainforrest destruction is due to animal agriculture.
Be smart, be vegan.
This video does not prove that plants are sentient, therefore should not be eaten.
It proves that they have an extremely intricate chemical system they have developped over time through evolution that makes it look like they can think. But can they feel pain ? do they have emotions like fear, love or anger ? I think not.
So you believe that they cannot think but have no actual proof. The honest answer is we don't know if they think or not but there is a significant chance that they do. As for emotions, well we can't really tell if the majority of animals have them either. An squid is intelligent but lacking the social structure of mammalian species does not display behaviours we would associate with emotions either. How about ants, what are their emotional abilities?
Also, sentience and intelligence and emotion are three difference concepts and not at all interchangeable. Human children are not fully sentient until about the age of 8 and have no real sentience as infants for example.
+Surma Sampo
There is absolutely no evidence that plants have any manner of sentience and plenty of evidence that they don't -- namely that they lack a nervous system of any sort.
+Surma Sampo And you're confusing sentience with sapience (presumably.) Though even then I'm not confused as to where you're getting this 8 year old idea from.
Do you have sensory organs that send messages to a neural network? Congrats, you're sentient.
Which is an intimately connected requisite for intelligence and emotion (in many various forms at many various scales, granted, but still.)
Plants are living creatures. They move just like animals but too slow for our naked eyes to detect. Play it fast motion and you see how much alive they are
I love ur channel I hope u get to 1 mil rly soon ☺☺
The channel is It's okay to be smart, except all the meat eaters understood that plants feel pain and suffer and think. Hard thing to do without a brain. But fear not meat eaters, think a little bit, even if it hurts.
First off, plants don't feel pain, nor do they think. Science has proven that many times. Secondly, you know what we know feels pain? Animals, and that you guys don't give a damn says a lot about how you are as a human being. Thirdly, vegans and vegetarians don't eat plants. What, you think they stroll around in the forest ripping plants and butchering them? They eat the same thing as you, except for the meat. Beans and fruits and vegetables are not plants, they are what the plants give us (they actually need mammals to eat the fruits and vegetables to take their seeds).
Also, it's quite sad that one day people use to thank animals for their flesh, now it's just dumb fucks who clearly don't respect other lives than their own.
Tf
XD Right!?
Funny how you Vegans see us (us = 99.8% of world population) as savages who only eat meat for a living. We also eat plants you know! Meat eaters more like omnivores!
Sgt. Toast pulls "99.8% " out of ass. Does victory dance. Still has no clue.
bruh vegans gotta eat air now
Milk is designed as food, honey too, also fruits and mushrooms (in some cases), so they don't die of hunger if they eat things designed as food offerings by nature. Salt at whim, it's mineral.
@@LuisAldamiz no
@@RiethAndalStuff - I love the elaborated depth of your argumentation. You left me without arguments, literally. XD
@@LuisAldamiz I could've said a better and a more constructive response, but I just thought about writing the word "no" independently without any other subjects or any other clauses, as it gave me a smirk, and I thought I would send it. Anyways my intentions here is just to remind everyone that this is the RUclips comments section, no one should write any formal essays or any formal anything. (I'm obviously joking, the comment that we replied on was my friend's so i thought it was cool that somebody responded.)
@@LuisAldamiz but hey it's ok to be smart ;)
So what are vegans going to eat now?
Since the video showed that there's no evidence that plants can think, and since it's absurd to think that anything without a brain can think, vegans will continue as before.
How is this confusing for guilt-ridden flesh-eaters?
plastic
I'd suggest fruit: fruit is designed by plants to be eaten and thus carry their seed. They can also try nectar (which you can steal from bees in the form of honey) and milk (which you can steal from various animals). But vegans hate not only to kill animals but also stealing from them what is actually designed as food (also cows kill plants or at least harm them, so it's ethically complicated). Also mushrooms, they are also meant to be eaten in many cases.
Milk, honey, fruits and mushooms, you can add salt because that's mineral. Sounds OK enough but beware about avitaminosis D.
Fruits
Vegans. There can be only one!
Tree: Hey, how ya doing.
Bush: I’m not doing to well.
Tree: Why?
Bush: A child punched me.
4:53 I HAVE A TREE LIKE THAT!!! Why I'm I so exited? Lol
Plants feel and react to pain, but don't tell vegetarians that. They wouldn't believe it because then they'd be forced to re-evaluate their reasons for not eating meat.
Yep. Because animals don't feel pain at all. They just disappear in a puff of smoke when you stab them.
Feynstein 100
Never said they didn't. Plants *and* animals feel pain.
IceMetalPunk So your logic = everything feels pain. So let's eat everything. What's stopping you from eating humans, I wonder?
Feynstein 100
No, my logic isn't that everything feels pain. Not everything actively reacts to damage. In fact, most things in the universe don't.
As for what's stopping me from eating humans: empathy.
IceMetalPunk Exactly. My logic is simple: plants don't feel pain. So we can eat them. Animals do. So we can't. BTW most humans have empathy for animals, too. They'll still eat them.
Omg I'm so early. So now I shouldn't be vegan anymore.
would you mind explaining why that follows, exactly?
+Modus Ponens Well if plants are affected by being cut then they are ''sentient'' and people will annoy me by saying that plants don't deserve to die.
Sami Aguis
"if plants are affected by being cut then they are ''sentient'' "
What makes you say that? Is your computer sentient because it is affected by your key presses? Why not?
+Modus Ponens Well because the great vegan ''preachers'' say that any organism that is affected and can feel pain is aware and sentient but I think it's stupid and you have brought a great argument in this conversation.
Sami Aguis
So if I'm following you correctly, you're saying it would be flawed to say: 'affected by being cut' -> 'sentient'
I think it's safe to agree with you there, though I'm not sure that would be a good argument against veganism.
The vegans aren't going to like this!
Title: do plants think?
Me: oh, i don’t think so
Plants: oh i think so
Great stuff as always, it's like the second evolution of SciShow, third being CBSSpaceTime
in my country the plant at 4:48 is called "Nometoques" which literally means "Don't touch me"
Same! In my language (Afrikaans) it's a "Raak-my-nie", which means "Touch-me-not"!
@It's Okay to Be Smart
Did the 0:35 - refer to ESP only or both ESP and potential of being sentient?
This video explains how plants work and sense things but are they machines that do this things automaticly or is this something more. Is the alarm to protect yourself just a good evolutionary process or is this more like care? Because a lot of insects seem dumber than that hey maybe some fish and birds too. But we consider them sentient.
I know that sentience isn't binary per say it's a spectrum and sentience of a wolf is different form that of a badger or a snake.
Oooooo it would have been cool if you also talked about the underground root ecosystem and all the communication that goes on down there!
Sensitive plant! There is some at the Missouri Botanical Garden in St. Louis. I always enjoy poking it when I'm there to watch it move.
Very interesting video! Thanks. And also, at the end of the video, the last piece of music played is Mozart's Orchestral composition Marriage of Fiaggo. 🎵🎶👍 (It has a very fun viola part in it that I loved playing in my orchestra. Mozart is one of my favorites, too!.)
Hello, my name is Daisy, I am not human, I'm just a plant, I was created in a scientific laboratory. I changed my shape to live among humans as a normal girl, but in fact I am an alien plant.
It’s been proven that plants CAN hear. If you play a audio recording of water. the roots will grow towards the sounds every time. PBS doesn’t get everything right but most of it yes. Not everything they say as law. Just a tip.
My source for this info is by radio labs “smarty plants” look it up on RUclips it’s a podcast
Awesome Video. Gives so much knowledge about plants
5:04... well THAT STATEMENT creeped the hell outta me..
Yo, regarding that last part about Mozart- I did some absolutely amateurish research for a school project bout a century ago- I did learn that playing music without distortion helped plants' pores open up better or more in some way. At which point you might think that getting a sine wave generators and just finding the pores' preferred frequency to increase growth or efficiency, but I'd assume the change is negligible.
ive been waiting my whole life for this video!!!
Nice outro on this one. Food for thought for this flower-whiffer
Mythbusters did a plant+music+voice experiment. (As I recall they screwed it up by not checking that the drip system was working.) The results they did get seemed to show that plants preferred heavy metal over classical music, or soft, kind words, or shouted words. I guess this group of plants were metalheads
Huh so that’s why in LSOH, Audrey IIs songs were rock songs 🤔
I have to make an investigation for my biology class, I'm doing it on geotropism thanks to this video. Thank you for sharing so much beautiful and interesting information!, I'll stay curious.
Ooh you guys nearly at a million subs congrats!
Good video, I believe that when you debunk something it will be better to go beyond saying or implying is “nonsense”. In this case an explanation of the results of the polygraph tests will do.
Dude you’re Awesome
Keep doing your thing
This is fascinating! We really can't answer the question of whether plants are sentient, because sentience is unobservable. Sure, we can look for signs we associate with it, but because sentience is observation itself, the only way to truly know whether an entity is sentient is to be that entity. We can't know if plants are aware of any of this. However! I'm coming from a perspective of nonduality. Basically I think that consciousness is a property of the universe different from but inseparable from the material, sort of like the time-space continuum (in fact, I'm open to the idea that it's one aspect of the time-space continuum). This would answer the hard problem of consciousness inherent in monism (i.e. there's no logical step by which strictly material reagents can produce an immaterial product) and the combination problem of panpsychism (i.e. how does material with a very basic level of consciousness create a more sophisticated form of consciousness?). If you ask me whether inanimate objects have conscious experience, my answer is no, because... I would say that that which perceives is there, but, without internal chemical reaction, there's no change, and thus nothing to experience. But plants have remained a question for me. The fact that they have resistance to injury suggests pain, which... There's the question of whether consciousness has any causative effect on the material, and it's pain that makes me think yes. Because someone who doesn't experience pain will not pull their hand away from a flame like someone who does (there's actually at least one person like this). So there's a reaction there that doesn't happen without awareness. Granted, in a case like that, the brain isn't reacting like in someone who does feel pain, but... I think what I'm getting at is that asking if an unconscious brain would react the same way is a nonsense question, if consciousness is everywhere. As for plants, I don't think they think like us, but I do think they experience on a basic level.
me: *smells a flower*
plant: GET YOUR FILTHY NOSE OUT OF MY FACE, YOU FILTHY HUMAN.
I'm a plant nerd, and I approve this message.
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For those of you wondering, the plantasia album is a real thing.
ruclips.net/video/LkesIsPGlSU/видео.html
Same
They might be deaf, but still interpret / receive the vibrations coming from sound. We also not only hear the music, but also feel it. Loud noise can cause health problems even when the ears are covered