When Vision says, *”I’m scared!”* it breaks your heart. He’s not certain of anything around him, when that's the one thing that should be constant about him. You can see from Episode 1 how he goes from being secure in who he is, when now he doesn’t even know what he’s supposed to remember.
0:21 and there it is. The perfect argument against all of Wandas actions. Grief stricken or not just because she has the power to change reality doesn’t mean she has the right to. She argues this later with the citizens of westview when they are begging to be released “you’re happy here! I’ve kept you safe!” She can preach about how she’s making the world better but that sounds awfully like the guy who killed her husband.
I gotta say I was hoping Wanda wouldn’t become a villain, but this show has made me like that Marvel is making her a morally grey character who shouldn’t be seen as a hero or villain.
Thanos intentionally snapped away everyone. Wanda didnt intentionally make the hex. No one's saying her grief is an excuse. Its a reason. Her powers have a mind of their own. She broke down and they made her the comfort place she always longed for. Thats it.
@@mxhsvn_b7866 It seems implied that once she realized she was behind the whole Hex she felt okay going along with it though, even after everything Vision says to her in the argument. I get that it's not cut and dry how much of it is her fault, but she for sure isn't 100% a good person here
@@mxhsvn_b7866 and a reason isn't a justification, nor is an explanation an absolution. It's perfectly acceptable to fully understand why someone made the decisions they made and still not respect them for it. Any way you try to dress it up, she violated a whole community of ppl and is the villain of this series. Protagonist sure, but the villain nontheless.
Wanda saying "Isnt that enough?" Is super disturbing. It basically forces Vision into a scenario where he either says yes and goes back to being ignorant to whats going on or he says no and Wanda uses that to make him feel like a terrible husband/father
yeah but thats not at all why wanda says that, she says that here because all she wants to matter is that her husband is back and that everything is okay because shes in denial hard about his death.
Elizabeth Olsen is a wonderful actor and I'm so glad she's getting recognized! But can we talk about Paul Bettanys acting too? This man is incredible!! I actually get chills every time I see this scene because of how amazing and raw his anger looks!
I’m sayin!!!!!! Don’t get me wrong I love Elizabeth as SW, but tbh I ALWAYS looked forward to the vision scenes because of Paul’s amazing acting! He took an artifical character and filled it completely with life!! It’s one of the better acting jobs I’ve seen!
@@reneelawton1032 Worst part, is it's true. When I was a kid the parks were teeming with kids, not dozens, sometime a hundred kids. No parents. The older kids kinda watched over the younger kids. Kids walked or biked to the parks on their own... now... they look more like a prison workcamp, or perhaps 'haunted' by kids watched over by parents, or angels... not hundreds, not even dozens... when you lived in an area and seen that kind of change... it's beyond sad... because the parents there don't even know what they lost, their kids, a generation removed will never experience that. All isn't lost. The zoos are still busy, the water parks still busy, but the neighborhood park... they're haunted by children, like ghosts. If it wasn't for the occasional sports event, they're nearly abandoned most of the time. Did video games kill the local park? The abduction scares? Crime? Who killed the park and left it to be haunted...
Yeah, but writing wise it makes sense. What else would completely change Wanda’s mind and make this conversation stop dead in its tracks to keep up her fantasy? Her brother, alive. Makes sense for Agatha to conjure him up to keep the spell going so she can figure out exactly what Wanda is and how she’s doing it all.
what's interesting is this Vision is Wanda's manifestation. She made him exactly like how she remembers him. Which means on some level she knows he would never be okay with this.
We can even go further and say that this Vision represents a side of Wanda, the side that is a hero and knows right from wrong. Wanda is gaslighting herself in order to do this without guilt. She's arguing with herself.
@@TheHolton95 I wouldn't say its a 'fault' that James McMillian made but I agree that it was their choice. Another choice that was made however, was that they chose to come to this video, watch said spoilers and then come to this comment section (among many others) and read through each word of the spoiler-y comments to then state "Thanks for the spoilers". They kinda did this to themselves.
@@eageltheYTman yeah I heard rumors that he'll be there but because Paul Bettany's contract has expired who knows maybe he'll renewed for a future project I guess
0:57 when she wants to shove her hands through her hair but instead holds them in front of her stomach? Some people abs cramp when they get stressed out, I love that detail
Short of nit picking, the scene is damn near perfect in my opinion. Every little inflection and action to show their feelings without directly saying it, the actors themselves showing up their chops. If you watch the clip in isolation and strip it of outside context, as in this case, you can still pick up huge chunks of the puzzle just from the way they act without having to say it directly. From this scene alone you can pick up the biggest plot point of the show, which is that none of this is real, and she’s the mastermind behind it all, but the one person she’s trying to keep under control because of her personal desires is breaking free from his shackles.
"Stop lying to me" and "You don't get to make that choice for me Wanda" are probably my favourite two quotes in the MCU. Even now, a year after watching the show these two lines and the delivery by Paul Bettany are so incredibly powerful. Paul Bettany as Vision was incredible casting. When he gets angry it just feels so wrong on a fundamental level which is perfect for this scene and this character. Also, can I just say that we are lucky that Vision didn't appear in MoM. If he did we would have had to go through a similar scene. But this time it wouldn't have ended in Vision consoling and trying to reach Wanda. It would have ended much, much worse.
I’m not sure about that. Wanda specifically is going after her kids who are real in another reality, instead of finding one where her kids and Vision exist. I think it’s because the darkhold knows that Vision can snap her out of the madness she is causing just like the Hex Vision was able to.
@@xxlasthopexx2603 The Darkhold is not sentient. Its corrupting but we know from Illuminati Strange and Agatha that the Darkhold cant make Wanda do anything. It might have a corrupting effect on Wanda, but her decisions are still her own. Also, maybe Wanda doesnt want a reality with Vision because she knows what would happen?
@@xxlasthopexx2603 apparently not, Olsen said 838 wanda divorced her vision and kept the kids as a single mother, and that they did it to have 616 wanda want to be with them to show how much she cared for them as a mother and to show how good of one she would've been or something Tho it downright hurts the story since she now has no want to be back with vision and only wants to be back with her fake kids that she made for like 2 days specifically to live her fantasy life with vision, great going marvel
One reason I love this show is that it's so hard to tell how much Wanda really knows, or what information she can physically act on. It should be painfully obvious that she is controlling everyone in the town but a combination of the happy facade of the town, her enormous grief, and complete confusion blinded her from facing the truth until Agatha had to literally remove the spell to open her eyes. Even then, she thought it was some kind of trick
@@brian6101 I think Wanda really didn’t know that she was controlling everyone. Remember Agatha said her magic worked on autopilot. I think she knew that her powers had something to do with everything happening around her but she just allowed it because she was so heartbroken
@@Txyv88 I feel as if she knew she was controlling everything but to an extent. Basically she didn’t know people were on autopilot having her thoughts and dreams. She knew what she was doing, she just didn’t know how powerful she was
Its basically dissociative disorder people... no way she really and fully understood/knew otherwise she wouldn't be distressed and confused. Her distress clearly wasn't an "act"
For all of the MCU, Vision was calm, collected, considerate. Even when in love, even when pleading for his death, he spoke--not exactly without emotion, but always with the same sort of emotion. Here for the first time in the whole MCU we see Vision *angry*, even frightened, and it shows how deeply this whole scenario has impacted him (possibly also something of his new nature).
This Vision is a development of Wanda's own mind. She's not fighting him, she's fighting herself. That what she meant when she said to Dr.Strange "I know self-deception better than anyone"
"You don't get to make that choice FOR me Wanda!," As someone who deals with someone who thinks they have every right to decide what I do and do think, say, how and for long I'm able to feel a certain way, and where I'm allowed to live as an adult, this line and the anger and frustration it was delivered with hit way harder than it should've.
Disney really did a good villain arc for her. It’s so good that I think most people don’t even realize she is a full on villain but because we are basically seeing it from her perspective it feels like she’s not doing anything that terrible when it totally is
Too bad in the end they have Agatha suddenly become the “big bad” and the girl told Wanda Westfield people “will never understand what they sacrificed for them”. They tried so hard gaslighting the viewer into thinking Wanda is a hero.
This scene was one of my favorites in the entire show. It's the first and only time we have ever seen Vision actually become infuriated. And yet, it's not at an enemy, but at the one person he loves most in the world.
When this happend I was shocked. Vision is always seen the calm and composed guy even at the face of death so this was firat time we see him getting angry. WandaVision will always be the most memorable mcu series.
Yes and no. She's not in control, she just likes the world she made and doesn't want it to change. Vision doesn't believe that, so their situation is making communication impossible.
@@MrDavidKord She is in control tho, maybe not so much in control of herself due to her grief but they literally establish that she's in control of the Hex in very next episode when Fake Pietro questions her about the kids suddenly running around also when she expanded it. At this point she doesn't know how the Hex got started but she's fully aware of what's going on and what she's doing and she's gaslighting Vision when he tries to call her out on in. That's pretty toxic
Yeah it is toxic, but at the end of the day, it’s cause she misses him so much that she’s created this world to live with him as a married couple with kids. She’s not doing it because she wants to hurt him, but she’s just really hurt herself. We all know before all this they truly did love each other and were meant to be.
I just finished watching this series and it genuinely made me tear up. Wanda's so alone that she's willing to take other people's wellbeing just to have her dream...it's a story of a sad broken woman. I feel for vision too cause he's an artificial intelligence yet feels fear. That really speaks volumes of character growth. And seeing him shed a tear when saying goodbye...man that's real 😢
This literally made jump because all the times I've seen vision was calm and level headed in every situation so when Vision got angry it made me scared.
Toxic relationship 😃 I love Wanda and Vision tho as a couple, but Wanda is just gaslighting Vision and doesn’t tell him what’s going on. I understand she did it all out of grief, and loosing vision was incredibly difficult for her but creating the hex and holding all those people hostage including Vision is just going to far.
@@bamafan73191 like don’t get me wrong, I love Wanda, she’s one of my fave characters and I’m so excited for a future in the MCU! But in this situation she isn’t a hero, more like the villain. I really get why she did it but it’s still not ok(obviously).
EXACTLY! I really like Wanda as a character but as a person she doesn't seem the best. I hate that she doesn't get any consequences, she should have at least been held accountable for her actions. What makes it more infuriating is that people on tiktok excuse her actions saying oh it's ok because she did it out of grief. I'll guarantee you that if they were in any of the people shoes they'd be glaring at her in anger.
In Civil War, it was Wanda being held captive by Vision. Now Wanda’s the one holding Vision and the townspeople captive and, keep in mind, this Vision is a figment of Wanda’s imagination. So it’s like Wanda’s arguing with herself.
he's not a figment of her imagination, he is real but only within the hex, just like billy and tommy. this isn't just some vision she made to control and be her perfect husband, he's THE VISION, that's why he was able to unlock white vision's memories
I think it’s okay to still like Wanda as a character even though she was absolutely in the wrong in Westview, and in this scene. I thought the show had an interesting take on grief and how if it’s not handled properly, it can consume you and make you do crazy stuff. She’s still accountable for holding an entire town hostage and psychologically tormenting them, no matter how unintentional it was. Oh, and manipulating Vision was no good either. Very interesting character though
I don’t think so....she can’t control vision like the rest. I think what it is is that Jarvis and ultron make up his brain and hardware but the stone provides his personality and his essence and soul for lack of a better term. Wanda was able to resurrect just the mind stone part conditionally. He has no hardware or super computer brain (although his intelligence has to be at least somewhat caused by the stone).
@@bamafan73191 I think the reason she can't control him is because she created him from her own powers. So essentially he is like a piece of her, and Wanda is clearly doesn't have any control over herself
After seeing Wanda turn full villain in multiverse of madness it makes her in Wandavision so much better. Now in retrospect I hope people can see she was the villain all along.
At first, I was confused about why Vision acted so human despite being a robot. Then I realized that since Wanda created him, it would make sense that he has his robot appearance but a more human personality. And you could argue that since everything in Westview is coming from Wanda's mind that Vision represents the part of her that rebels against herself. Like the part of her that wants to let go of the past but is fighting against the much bigger part of herself that doesn't and created a new reality to escape.
Seeing this after multiverse... this is Wanda is the Denying stage of Grief. She’s denying vision is dead and so created a version of him... but in multiverse... she’s in the bargaining stage.
Dude, Paul's performance was just amazing in this scene, it literally could be my favorite scene in the whole mcu. I don't think we've seen anyone this generally angry in the mcu since Loki was told about his orphaned childhood in phase 1. It hits harder because even though he feels like everything in his life is a lie, you can tell he somehow knows they loved each other before Westview. So when anger is involved with genuine love, it's so much more bone chilling. "You've never talked to me like this" That's another thing, HE hasn't. Every mcu scene they were in together, "pre-endgame", he was so sweet and soft and in love with her. This is the first time we've ever seen Vision pissed off. And the first time he's pissed off, its with Wanda of all people!! Just an amazing scene with great passion from both actors!; but Paul steals this imo 👏🔥 *edit THATS NOT EVEN MENTIONING HOW RIGHT AFTER THAT, HE VULNERABILITY COMES OUT AND HE SAYS HES SCARED! Oh my god, the "I'm scared" is just so pure and child-like "please stop hurting everyone, you're scaring me, be nice" I don't know how much was improvised but if that was the script word for word, GReat job, writers👏👏👏
Wanda: Enslaves an entire town and keeps people against their will. Manipulates her "kids" and husband and develops a completely fabricated life. Commits numerous crimes. Also Wanda: WhY aRe YoU TaLkInG tO mE LiKe ThIs??
oh my god, i just noticed ‘i’m scared’ could be an easter egg to civil war, when they talked in the kitchen, and wanda asked vision ‘are you scared of it(his mind)?’
The issue is what the hell could anyone really do? She is immensely powerful. Her reality shaping abilities make her damn near unbeatable unless everyone ganged up on her at once and they were probably unwilling or unavailable. The other thing to remember is up until that point she was a revered hero. She had done massive good for the world. So I think with all these things put in the balance most everyone just decided a live and let live policy was best.
that line "isn't that enough" is super gaslighting. If someone tells you something like that, feel free to say NO. A person is more than just a role in someone else's life, your children, your partner they are not enough, they are important aspects of your life, but there is always more
Wow toxic much. This is what abusive relationships are like. "You cant control me the way you do them." Vision here is saying to Wanda he cant be controlled like the others because he doesnt want to be controlled. Pretty simple. You would think at this point that Wanda would agree and try to actually comfort him or say anything to help him in this situation but nope her response is a threatening head tilt and a cold "Cant I?" Wtf? That's her husband the person she "loves" and she just said ... "can't I?" ... Also note that she only head tilts to threaten somebody. She done it to Monica and Hayward to threaten them. So instead of comforting him or telling him the truth and explaining herself she instead threatens him with control. Wtf that's abusive as hell.
Worst part about this is Wanda thinks Vision will die again if he leaves. Wanda is in the wrong but in Wandavision specifically we see how she was pushed to this point and that up to the finale she really thought she was helping when in the end she was just hurting all these people.
Seeing vision getting angry was so scary and sad because I’ve never seen him like this before the first time I saw this episode and even now I’m still getting chills watching this scene
Blows my mind people act like she didn’t know what was going on untill the end. Her creating the hex was an accident. But she knew she was in control by this point. Clearly gaslighting vision
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When Vision says, *”I’m scared!”* it breaks your heart. He’s not certain of anything around him, when that's the one thing that should be constant about him. You can see from Episode 1 how he goes from being secure in who he is, when now he doesn’t even know what he’s supposed to remember.
**Synthezoid but yeah that’s absolutely true
I’m sorry but I laughed so fucking hard when you said he’s an android 😭😭😭
That's What I feel like, I'm getting scared Too 😥
In episode 8, Wanda unconsciously created Vision
And the worst part Vision seem to have taken one particular line of Master Yoda too seriously: fear leads to anger
She is gaslighting him REALLY hard.
she didn’t know tho😭
Shush
@@ceomxury3463 yes she did lol
@@ceomxury3463 at this point she is very aware of what she’s doing. she doesn’t know she’s hurting them but she knows she’s controlling everything
@@ryleynations6251 no she doesnt. What show are you watching. She doesnt know shes controlling everything thats what agatha tells her later
0:21 and there it is. The perfect argument against all of Wandas actions. Grief stricken or not just because she has the power to change reality doesn’t mean she has the right to. She argues this later with the citizens of westview when they are begging to be released “you’re happy here! I’ve kept you safe!” She can preach about how she’s making the world better but that sounds awfully like the guy who killed her husband.
And killed her brother, for that matter. Hell, Tony thought what HE was doing was "for the greater good."
She became the very same people she hated.
I gotta say I was hoping Wanda wouldn’t become a villain, but this show has made me like that Marvel is making her a morally grey character who shouldn’t be seen as a hero or villain.
Thanos intentionally snapped away everyone. Wanda didnt intentionally make the hex. No one's saying her grief is an excuse. Its a reason. Her powers have a mind of their own. She broke down and they made her the comfort place she always longed for. Thats it.
@@mxhsvn_b7866 It seems implied that once she realized she was behind the whole Hex she felt okay going along with it though, even after everything Vision says to her in the argument. I get that it's not cut and dry how much of it is her fault, but she for sure isn't 100% a good person here
@@mxhsvn_b7866 and a reason isn't a justification, nor is an explanation an absolution. It's perfectly acceptable to fully understand why someone made the decisions they made and still not respect them for it. Any way you try to dress it up, she violated a whole community of ppl and is the villain of this series. Protagonist sure, but the villain nontheless.
Wanda saying "Isnt that enough?" Is super disturbing. It basically forces Vision into a scenario where he either says yes and goes back to being ignorant to whats going on or he says no and Wanda uses that to make him feel like a terrible husband/father
And it's Gaslighting
the independence/relationship pendulum
She is PSYCHOTIC.
yeah but thats not at all why wanda says that, she says that here because all she wants to matter is that her husband is back and that everything is okay because shes in denial hard about his death.
There's a dark side to ambition, but there is a dark side to ignorance and stagnant compliance as well.
Elizabeth Olsen is a wonderful actor and I'm so glad she's getting recognized! But can we talk about Paul Bettanys acting too? This man is incredible!! I actually get chills every time I see this scene because of how amazing and raw his anger looks!
I’m sayin!!!!!! Don’t get me wrong I love Elizabeth as SW, but tbh I ALWAYS looked forward to the vision scenes because of Paul’s amazing acting! He took an artifical character and filled it completely with life!! It’s one of the better acting jobs I’ve seen!
Everyone knows how good of an actor he is. Legion is on of my favorite movies of his.
@@rogerdominguez3691 I met him in A Knight´s Tale. He was so good!
@@cargo71 Same! he played as Geoffrey Chaucer if I remember correctly
I loved him in Hannibal.
When he says, "the playground stands empty every morning I walk to work" makes me really sad, I don't know why
It makes me sad, too. I teared up. I think it's the way Bettany delivers the line and the very concept.
@@reneelawton1032 Worst part, is it's true. When I was a kid the parks were teeming with kids, not dozens, sometime a hundred kids. No parents. The older kids kinda watched over the younger kids. Kids walked or biked to the parks on their own... now... they look more like a prison workcamp, or perhaps 'haunted' by kids watched over by parents, or angels... not hundreds, not even dozens... when you lived in an area and seen that kind of change... it's beyond sad... because the parents there don't even know what they lost, their kids, a generation removed will never experience that. All isn't lost. The zoos are still busy, the water parks still busy, but the neighborhood park... they're haunted by children, like ghosts.
If it wasn't for the occasional sports event, they're nearly abandoned most of the time. Did video games kill the local park? The abduction scares? Crime? Who killed the park and left it to be haunted...
This was such a fantastic scene with brilliant acting of both of them. I hated that it was overshadowed by the Quicksilver cameo.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THE TRUTH
Yeah, i Watched the whole series again yesterday and this scene is so fucking awesome. Vision saying STOP LYING TO MEE
Especially now knowing what that cameo amounted to
Yeah, but writing wise it makes sense. What else would completely change Wanda’s mind and make this conversation stop dead in its tracks to keep up her fantasy? Her brother, alive. Makes sense for Agatha to conjure him up to keep the spell going so she can figure out exactly what Wanda is and how she’s doing it all.
so true damn, i totally forgot this scene happened
what's interesting is this Vision is Wanda's manifestation. She made him exactly like how she remembers him.
Which means on some level she knows he would never be okay with this.
We can even go further and say that this Vision represents a side of Wanda, the side that is a hero and knows right from wrong. Wanda is gaslighting herself in order to do this without guilt. She's arguing with herself.
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Thanks for the spoilers. Haven't seen past episode 5, you know, the episode which this clip comes from? what the hell my girl
@@jamesmcmillian9890 shows been out for over a year not being caught up is your own fault
@@TheHolton95 I wouldn't say its a 'fault' that James McMillian made but I agree that it was their choice.
Another choice that was made however, was that they chose to come to this video, watch said spoilers and then come to this comment section (among many others) and read through each word of the spoiler-y comments to then state "Thanks for the spoilers". They kinda did this to themselves.
Paul Bettany needs to be in more movies.
Been wanting him to get more screen time for the entirety of the MCU.
He will be in armor wars
@@edrianraneses5864 armor wars?
@@eageltheYTman yeah I heard rumors that he'll be there but because Paul Bettany's contract has expired who knows maybe he'll renewed for a future project I guess
Just in case you meant more movies in general, he's been in some really good movies playing parts you'd never believe, truly phenomenal actor
0:59 I love this part and the "why tell me why". great acting for confusion
1:16 and this breath before she started. great acting for lying
0:57 when she wants to shove her hands through her hair but instead holds them in front of her stomach? Some people abs cramp when they get stressed out, I love that detail
1:07 and when Vision starts to breathe, it shows how he looks very scared
Short of nit picking, the scene is damn near perfect in my opinion. Every little inflection and action to show their feelings without directly saying it, the actors themselves showing up their chops. If you watch the clip in isolation and strip it of outside context, as in this case, you can still pick up huge chunks of the puzzle just from the way they act without having to say it directly. From this scene alone you can pick up the biggest plot point of the show, which is that none of this is real, and she’s the mastermind behind it all, but the one person she’s trying to keep under control because of her personal desires is breaking free from his shackles.
Also at 0:59, the little voice cracs to
wait in 1:16 she's lying? I thought it was real that she doesn't know she started all that
"You don't get to make that choice for me, Wanda."
*Vision said calmly*
"Stop lying to me" and "You don't get to make that choice for me Wanda" are probably my favourite two quotes in the MCU. Even now, a year after watching the show these two lines and the delivery by Paul Bettany are so incredibly powerful.
Paul Bettany as Vision was incredible casting. When he gets angry it just feels so wrong on a fundamental level which is perfect for this scene and this character.
Also, can I just say that we are lucky that Vision didn't appear in MoM. If he did we would have had to go through a similar scene. But this time it wouldn't have ended in Vision consoling and trying to reach Wanda. It would have ended much, much worse.
I’m not sure about that. Wanda specifically is going after her kids who are real in another reality, instead of finding one where her kids and Vision exist. I think it’s because the darkhold knows that Vision can snap her out of the madness she is causing just like the Hex Vision was able to.
@@xxlasthopexx2603 The Darkhold is not sentient. Its corrupting but we know from Illuminati Strange and Agatha that the Darkhold cant make Wanda do anything. It might have a corrupting effect on Wanda, but her decisions are still her own.
Also, maybe Wanda doesnt want a reality with Vision because she knows what would happen?
@@xxlasthopexx2603 apparently not, Olsen said 838 wanda divorced her vision and kept the kids as a single mother, and that they did it to have 616 wanda want to be with them to show how much she cared for them as a mother and to show how good of one she would've been or something
Tho it downright hurts the story since she now has no want to be back with vision and only wants to be back with her fake kids that she made for like 2 days specifically to live her fantasy life with vision, great going marvel
White Vision may have the memories of Vision but I don't think the scene would play out the same
“STOP LYING TO ME!” Was nearly as powerful as Loki’s “TELL MEEEEE!” in the first Thor movie
Paul Bettany is an underrated actor
I recommend the show he filmed just after this "A very British scandal" he's so evil it'll give you whiplasj
You know shit's bad when the calm gentleman Vision loses his cool.
or Wanda's accent gets thicker.
One reason I love this show is that it's so hard to tell how much Wanda really knows, or what information she can physically act on. It should be painfully obvious that she is controlling everyone in the town but a combination of the happy facade of the town, her enormous grief, and complete confusion blinded her from facing the truth until Agatha had to literally remove the spell to open her eyes. Even then, she thought it was some kind of trick
She knew
@@brian6101 I think Wanda really didn’t know that she was controlling everyone. Remember Agatha said her magic worked on autopilot. I think she knew that her powers had something to do with everything happening around her but she just allowed it because she was so heartbroken
@@Txyv88 I feel as if she knew she was controlling everything but to an extent. Basically she didn’t know people were on autopilot having her thoughts and dreams. She knew what she was doing, she just didn’t know how powerful she was
@@gillysummerss I agree
Its basically dissociative disorder people... no way she really and fully understood/knew otherwise she wouldn't be distressed and confused. Her distress clearly wasn't an "act"
both of their acting here was outstanding. hearing vision get angry was so surprising!!
For all of the MCU, Vision was calm, collected, considerate. Even when in love, even when pleading for his death, he spoke--not exactly without emotion, but always with the same sort of emotion. Here for the first time in the whole MCU we see Vision *angry*, even frightened, and it shows how deeply this whole scenario has impacted him (possibly also something of his new nature).
This Vision is a development of Wanda's own mind. She's not fighting him, she's fighting herself. That what she meant when she said to Dr.Strange "I know self-deception better than anyone"
Their arguement scene is my favourite scene of the series and then its when she confronts the SWORD agents
What about "It was Agatha all along"? Chef's kiss priceless.
But yes, this is my favorite scene.
"You don't get to make that choice FOR me Wanda!," As someone who deals with someone who thinks they have every right to decide what I do and do think, say, how and for long I'm able to feel a certain way, and where I'm allowed to live as an adult, this line and the anger and frustration it was delivered with hit way harder than it should've.
This sitcom is dark af
I think that was clear from episode one
Vision, the strongest humanoid and a super computer that basically knows everything, saying that he's "scared" really speaks volume
Disney really did a good villain arc for her. It’s so good that I think most people don’t even realize she is a full on villain but because we are basically seeing it from her perspective it feels like she’s not doing anything that terrible when it totally is
Too bad in the end they have Agatha suddenly become the “big bad” and the girl told Wanda Westfield people “will never understand what they sacrificed for them”. They tried so hard gaslighting the viewer into thinking Wanda is a hero.
The way she said: 'You never talked to me like this before'
For a second, I really thought she was about to hurt him!
This scene was one of my favorites in the entire show. It's the first and only time we have ever seen Vision actually become infuriated. And yet, it's not at an enemy, but at the one person he loves most in the world.
One of my absolute favorite scenes!! Both Elizabeth and Paul acted the hell out of it!!!
When this happend I was shocked. Vision is always seen the calm and composed guy even at the face of death so this was firat time we see him getting angry.
WandaVision will always be the most memorable mcu series.
And this is what toxic relationships are like.
RIGHT!! She is hella gaslighting Vision!
@@JStar55555 and he’s not buying it. He knows some bullshit is up and she is either the cause or knows what is.
Yes and no. She's not in control, she just likes the world she made and doesn't want it to change. Vision doesn't believe that, so their situation is making communication impossible.
@@MrDavidKord She is in control tho, maybe not so much in control of herself due to her grief but they literally establish that she's in control of the Hex in very next episode when Fake Pietro questions her about the kids suddenly running around also when she expanded it. At this point she doesn't know how the Hex got started but she's fully aware of what's going on and what she's doing and she's gaslighting Vision when he tries to call her out on in. That's pretty toxic
Yeah it is toxic, but at the end of the day, it’s cause she misses him so much that she’s created this world to live with him as a married couple with kids. She’s not doing it because she wants to hurt him, but she’s just really hurt herself. We all know before all this they truly did love each other and were meant to be.
Wanda violated everyone in this town and I don’t blame them for being pissed.
The first and only time you see Vision angry. Great scene
vision is one of my fav characters in MCU, he's underrated.
Whole scene was art. Whole SHOW was art. Absolutely incredible.
This is why she never looked for vision MoM, she knew he wouldn't approve of what she was doing
Norm has a family, Wanda!- 0:00
I love how they made vision have awareness whats happening
I never saw Vision being that confused, scared or angry!
This is the first time Vision has ever yelled in the MCU. And Paul Bettany acted the heck out of it. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The part right before this when she tried to cut him off by rolling the credits. That hit me.
Paul B. Is an amazing actor - how he shifted the emotion and line about being scared - wow! Hollywood get this man more parts so he can get an Oscar!
This show gives me the chills omg.... I love it so much.
"STOP lying to me!"
I love it!
I just finished watching this series and it genuinely made me tear up. Wanda's so alone that she's willing to take other people's wellbeing just to have her dream...it's a story of a sad broken woman. I feel for vision too cause he's an artificial intelligence yet feels fear. That really speaks volumes of character growth. And seeing him shed a tear when saying goodbye...man that's real 😢
This literally made jump because all the times I've seen vision was calm and level headed in every situation so when Vision got angry it made me scared.
Toxic relationship 😃 I love Wanda and Vision tho as a couple, but Wanda is just gaslighting Vision and doesn’t tell him what’s going on. I understand she did it all out of grief, and loosing vision was incredibly difficult for her but creating the hex and holding all those people hostage including Vision is just going to far.
For sure! For people to act like Wanda is the hero of the story is just wild to me.
@@bamafan73191 like don’t get me wrong, I love Wanda, she’s one of my fave characters and I’m so excited for a future in the MCU! But in this situation she isn’t a hero, more like the villain. I really get why she did it but it’s still not ok(obviously).
EXACTLY! I really like Wanda as a character but as a person she doesn't seem the best. I hate that she doesn't get any consequences, she should have at least been held accountable for her actions. What makes it more infuriating is that people on tiktok excuse her actions saying oh it's ok because she did it out of grief. I'll guarantee you that if they were in any of the people shoes they'd be glaring at her in anger.
Ikr? I love Wanda and hate SWORD but this and the "Can't I?" quote were just-
@@dhruthi2749 who tf is gonna hold her accountable. She basically could've ended thanos in a second. Who's gonna stop her lmao the PoLiCe
Don’t know what it is about this scene that makes me want to watch it over and over again but it’s so beautiful
In Civil War, it was Wanda being held captive by Vision. Now Wanda’s the one holding Vision and the townspeople captive and, keep in mind, this Vision is a figment of Wanda’s imagination. So it’s like Wanda’s arguing with herself.
Finally someone sees the truth, arguing with herself, her conscience
he's not a figment of her imagination, he is real but only within the hex, just like billy and tommy. this isn't just some vision she made to control and be her perfect husband, he's THE VISION, that's why he was able to unlock white vision's memories
@@stavros2644 he is real without the hex she just needs to understand her power
i should have binged this show when i had the chance
What happened
I just started watching it about a week ago and it really does start off slow, but it does pick up after epsiode 3.
You still can lol
Tommy and Billy during this: I sleep
Halloween:
Tommy and Billy: REAL SHIT?
"you dont wanna know" that line sums up the whole plot, she doesnt want a world where vision doesnt exist like the outer world is a horror place
I think it’s okay to still like Wanda as a character even though she was absolutely in the wrong in Westview, and in this scene. I thought the show had an interesting take on grief and how if it’s not handled properly, it can consume you and make you do crazy stuff. She’s still accountable for holding an entire town hostage and psychologically tormenting them, no matter how unintentional it was. Oh, and manipulating Vision was no good either. Very interesting character though
When vision said “I’m scared”, the way Wanda reacted made me happy and sad
From an acting stand point vision did amazing. The emotion and just the way he presented that emotion was groundbreaking.
Tfw you go in expecting a sitcom and end up getting a drama
I think her moral personalities split. Regular Wanda is in him and the other controlling one is in her. That’s not him at all.
I don’t think so....she can’t control vision like the rest. I think what it is is that Jarvis and ultron make up his brain and hardware but the stone provides his personality and his essence and soul for lack of a better term. Wanda was able to resurrect just the mind stone part conditionally. He has no hardware or super computer brain (although his intelligence has to be at least somewhat caused by the stone).
@@bamafan73191 this vision is actually vision but just the memories of wanda who doesnt know the future but only knows that he loves wanda
@@bamafan73191 I think the reason she can't control him is because she created him from her own powers. So essentially he is like a piece of her, and Wanda is clearly doesn't have any control over herself
So coooolll
I love that he have his own side
That "stop lying to me" almost matched Banner's "Stop Lying to me" from Avengers. Natasha's reaction in that one win it the 1st.
Imagine if Vision got to witness what Wanda did in the events of Dr Strange and the Multiverse of Madness.
He'd be horrified TBH.
White vision is still out there
After seeing Wanda turn full villain in multiverse of madness it makes her in Wandavision so much better. Now in retrospect I hope people can see she was the villain all along.
0:19 Wanda's voice here is very comforting. Like a mother trying to discipline and care for you still
Vision yelling like that is genuinely unsettling.
Wanda is basically the villain/hero of her own show, thats why a Wanda-Loki team-up would work so well!
Genie: tell him the...
TRUTH!!!!!!!!
This scene got better after Multiverse of Madness😮
Rewatching WandaVision feels traumatic. At first, it was a mystery, but now, knowing how the story went, rewatching it feels like revisiting a trauma.
MK Ultra show.
At first, I was confused about why Vision acted so human despite being a robot. Then I realized that since Wanda created him, it would make sense that he has his robot appearance but a more human personality. And you could argue that since everything in Westview is coming from Wanda's mind that Vision represents the part of her that rebels against herself. Like the part of her that wants to let go of the past but is fighting against the much bigger part of herself that doesn't and created a new reality to escape.
Seeing this after multiverse... this is Wanda is the Denying stage of Grief. She’s denying vision is dead and so created a version of him... but in multiverse... she’s in the bargaining stage.
This is the Peak of the show, and the credits part is my favourite
And she STILL goes outta her way to bring them back despite Vision telling her it's wrong
What a brilliant show. This show will always be my favourite.
Dude, Paul's performance was just amazing in this scene, it literally could be my favorite scene in the whole mcu. I don't think we've seen anyone this generally angry in the mcu since Loki was told about his orphaned childhood in phase 1. It hits harder because even though he feels like everything in his life is a lie, you can tell he somehow knows they loved each other before Westview. So when anger is involved with genuine love, it's so much more bone chilling.
"You've never talked to me like this"
That's another thing, HE hasn't. Every mcu scene they were in together, "pre-endgame", he was so sweet and soft and in love with her. This is the first time we've ever seen Vision pissed off. And the first time he's pissed off, its with Wanda of all people!!
Just an amazing scene with great passion from both actors!; but Paul steals this imo 👏🔥
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THATS NOT EVEN MENTIONING HOW RIGHT AFTER THAT, HE VULNERABILITY COMES OUT AND HE SAYS HES SCARED! Oh my god, the "I'm scared" is just so pure and child-like "please stop hurting everyone, you're scaring me, be nice"
I don't know how much was improvised but if that was the script word for word, GReat job, writers👏👏👏
“Do you think I am in charge of everything in Westview?”
Yes
Wanda: Enslaves an entire town and keeps people against their will. Manipulates her "kids" and husband and develops a completely fabricated life. Commits numerous crimes. Also Wanda: WhY aRe YoU TaLkInG tO mE LiKe ThIs??
wanda gaslighting vision will forever be remembered
This is awesome this is how people who are in truly in love with each other fight
The performances in this scene is fantastic
oh my god, i just noticed ‘i’m scared’ could be an easter egg to civil war, when they talked in the kitchen, and wanda asked vision ‘are you scared of it(his mind)?’
We need Vision back to calm this poor woman down, she's gone off the deep end
She isnt poor. She is a monster.
well she died so it'll be pretty hard to calm her down
@@eliasgibson2878 she "died" offscreen, meaning she's not really dead by Marvel standards
@@eliasgibson2878 she’s not dead, trust me
God. Lizzie is so good. This scene gave me serious goosebumps.
I can imagine if Steve , stark and natasha watch them like this......💥
Wow! Their first fight! That is so them. They're like an old married couple, which they are.
from Megamind
This is probably my favorite scene in the whole show.
Episode 5 was truly special!
This might be my favourite moment of Vision.Maybe because I never saw him like this.
Seeing her never held accountable for her actions was always an issue for me.
The issue is what the hell could anyone really do? She is immensely powerful. Her reality shaping abilities make her damn near unbeatable unless everyone ganged up on her at once and they were probably unwilling or unavailable. The other thing to remember is up until that point she was a revered hero. She had done massive good for the world. So I think with all these things put in the balance most everyone just decided a live and let live policy was best.
@@mRudie1318 Mixed feelings on that.
@@BobBob-kr5wr how so?
@@mRudie1318 The people from the town were horribly traumatized by this.
This whole show was a roller coaster.
that line "isn't that enough" is super gaslighting.
If someone tells you something like that, feel free to say NO. A person is more than just a role in someone else's life, your children, your partner they are not enough, they are important aspects of your life, but there is always more
Wow toxic much. This is what abusive relationships are like.
"You cant control me the way you do them."
Vision here is saying to Wanda he cant be controlled like the others because he doesnt want to be controlled. Pretty simple. You would think at this point that Wanda would agree and try to actually comfort him or say anything to help him in this situation but nope her response is a threatening head tilt and a cold
"Cant I?"
Wtf? That's her husband the person she "loves" and she just said ... "can't I?" ...
Also note that she only head tilts to threaten somebody. She done it to Monica and Hayward to threaten them.
So instead of comforting him or telling him the truth and explaining herself she instead threatens him with control.
Wtf that's abusive as hell.
Worst part about this is
Wanda thinks Vision will die again if he leaves.
Wanda is in the wrong but in Wandavision specifically we see how she was pushed to this point and that up to the finale she really thought she was helping when in the end she was just hurting all these people.
Seeing vision getting angry was so scary and sad because I’ve never seen him like this before the first time I saw this episode and even now I’m still getting chills watching this scene
Blows my mind people act like she didn’t know what was going on untill the end. Her creating the hex was an accident. But she knew she was in control by this point. Clearly gaslighting vision
Tony Stark in heaven watching be like: Steve this is your fault
Steve:…… damn
Tony and Natasha: LANGUAGE!!
At the end where the door bell when ding dong during they fight made me laugh so hard 🤣
« Isn’t that enough » sounds like an echo in my mind after multiverse of darkness.
I don’t like to elaborate that much especially in a commentary section. But if you pay attention Wong ask the same question to Wanda in MoM.
and some people keeps saying Wanda didn't knew that she was in control 😂😂 she KNEW and she still chose to control people for her dream world
When my Mom and Dad had confrontation like this, everything goes flying except the two of them.
a robot with such an emotion
When a robot gets a existential crisis moment. You know you fked up.
Gosh, this show was really an experience.
“Do you really think that I am controlling everything?”
Ummm, yeah sis 👀
This hits different after seeing Dr. strange 2.
Vision doesn't know who he is is scary enough, "this is my new body" ultron says