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I was always fond of characters who do decent AOE damage and decent single target damage as well. So, its Jing Yuan for me the same way it was Childe for me back in the day
tbh i think even if you don’t necessarily want Jing Yuan, his banner is absolutely great value bc of the 4 stars, especially if you’re f2p! Tingyun is arguably one of the best support units in the game rn, Sushang is a fantastic physical DPS, and March 7th has some nice eidolons to boot! ik conventional wisdom is you shouldn’t pull for 4 stars unless you’re okay with potentially getting the 5 star, but since we’re still so early in the game that even if you get Jing Yuan or one of the standard 5 stars that’s still overall a net-positive for your account :)
Honestly that was my mentality pulling on the banner. I didn’t care if I got him or not, because I already had a decently built Serval, so I decided to pull until I got the 5* and even if I lost the 50/50 I would probably still get a new character. Ended up getting him though, so only complaint is that I’ll never use Serval again lol.
@@drm726 same here bro lol i didn’t really care if i got Jing Yuan bc i was satisfied just using Serval but i ended up winning the 50/50 for him + also snagging some eidolons for March 7th and Tingyun… guess im back to farming erudition mats lmaoo
For me who already used Elation because i have Clara and March 7th on my team, he really helps me in simulated universe. Before i pulled him I used Serval, but with him i can use the Elation path to the fullest extent.
And qingque isn’t that bad though, her damage numbers are inflated as hell, 312% to main target and 130% to adjacent enemies, at E4 she can hit twice, which means 624%/260% (in comparison seeles ult deals 510% to a single target), and we didn’t even account for max 180% damage increases of her skill, 90% attack increase when entering her buffed state and her ult damage
7:20 Based on how you use up your resources and/or rng, you could reach decent crit ration earlier than that. My seele for example has 60-100 ratio and I am not lvl 50 yet
As a f2p I had to choose Seele _or_ Jing Yuan and went with the general because; - I desperately wanted Tingyun (the standard 5* I wanted most was/is Bronya but she's refusing to come home, so....) - I don't mind March / Sushang dupes as I use them - I have Bailu (so Luocha is not an absolute necessity) - he's a husbando - he _cheats_ by bringing a 5th character in 4 character game!! (who wouldn't want that?) The existence of Serval / Kafka _did_ make me think but, hey, I can't wait until Kafka's release. The gacha itch needs to be scratched! I got Jing Yuan and his light cone (it helps that the light cone gacha has only _one_ 5* instead of two in Genshin, as someone always getting the _other_ 5* weapon) and I'm having so much fun.
Don’t get me wrong, Jing Yuen is great! Probably the best aoe character in the game so far. But I just don’t get why they would release a character with the same type and path combo as an existing one when there are so many combinations that have yet to be explored. Heck there is only one imagination character in the entire game so far and he’s a debuffer. They could have made him an imaginary erudition and I wouldn’t have batted an eye.
Because if people don't have Jing Yuan, they would feel left out of a Lightning Erudition character, so Serval is just a good alternative if you don't have the luck to pull him out.
@@dreelfantasy8842 By that logic they should have done the opposite and released 5* “upgrades” of every launch 4* before moving on to fill new type/path combos. But that’s not what they did with Seele.
One thing to keep in mind: Jingyun pairs well with the Bennett of this game: Tingyun since Asta's light cone, planetary rendevous, lets her buff his attack for simply being the same element. Added that Tingyun can boost his energy, it lets him get his 10 Lightning Lord stack very easily, its a very strong combo
Some light cone have this property of when using a team of a single element or more than 2 of the same element you get bonus status for the team. They will probably do more of this, Like Kafka’s kit, that she is based on characters that use DoT, not about elements itself but about game mechanics, not just raw damage. I hope they do more like this.
If I was just going for whatever I would skip and pull for Kafka, but I'll also be skipping Kafka and everyone else because I'm set on getting the Raiden Mei/Ei expy that will inevitably be released at some point.
i want someone to analyze sprightly vonwacq on characters like tingyun, maybe even seele in late game because you don't want to wear speed boots, but you want to outspeed various things still, which now have like 132 speed cause 120x1.1
i was in the same boat, i needed electric dmg cause i never built serval, hit him. Now im a lucky bastard with gepard seele and bronya with jing yuan as a f2p. wish i had welt doh
There is ONE THING I KNOW and thats that I will regret it if I pull for him and miss Kafka. Even if I do get both one of them would need to be benched since they both cover the same role wich is AOE ellectric DPS. Kafka is a DoT DPS while Jing Yuan is more of a Burst DPS but still they are both DPS's. So yeah Its either one or the other and I have to go for Kafka simply because her ult is badass as f***
Or you could just make two teams since you already need to for memory of chaos thats what I’m gonna do since I pulled jing yuan and now saving for kafka
@@zerovking7629 Yeah makes sense but I can use Serval in one team and try to go for another 5 Star like Clara. Its not sensible for an F2P to have 2 5*'s of the same element.
I’ve seen at least 3 guides for Jing and evidently they say basically the same thing “His light cone is OP”, “These 4-stars are good alternatives---“, I don’t think there’s anything else to say besides what should be known 😆😅
I just play hsr because i am very gay, so i am only going for my husband, and he is really carrying me xd, i just him with bailu, fire mc and tingyun, i am happy with him but i feel bad for serval, i really like her ....
4:28 jokes on you, I got *3* Jing Yuan as a F2P (thanks partially on getting Seele in my first 10 pull) Ok but seriously my luck on my account is way too high like holy shit. I wasn't planning on getting eidolons for him but they came bc I wanted E1 Tingyun
Personally I would disagree with the analysis of Seele vs Jing Yuan because the dmg of Seele vs Yanqing/Dan Heng is pretty much the same if not smaller than the gap between JingYuan and Himeko/Serval/Qingque (damage calcs from Prydwen). Notably Seele is single target with pseudo AoE and Jing Yuan's AoE transfers well to single target. Caveat: I'm a Seele hater, I think she has a ridiculous design and a flat personality
It's a shame I don't like his design (moles are one of the biggest turn-offs for me) because gameplay wise I like the idea of having basically 4.5 units with the .5 being an autonomus summon. However, I will most likely save for mommy Kafka like about 90% of the playerbase. Also I feel like there is no need to have one damage dealer of every element since every enemy has at least two weaknesses so "not having a lightning dd" isn't a valid point to pull for a character personally. Now, that might change in the future obviously.
I skipped Seele for Jing Yuan and his light cone , but even I know full well that Seele isn't overrated. She is exceptional in almost all of the content that's currently in the game.
Same she is overrated ,also her animations are one of the worst in the game. Other than that she is a really good DPS ,but I dont like her playstyle. But afterall she is a Waifu ofcourse she is gonna be overrated Just look at Kafka she is not even out or Silverwolf same scenario. Altough Silverwolf seems good on paper ,but we will see how this goes.
I’m disappointed to be honest. This is one of the few Vars II videos that I haven’t bothered watching. I usually am eagerly looking forward to new Vars content. I understand a lot of work goes into these videos, so I don’t want to sound rude. I think that videos about HSR are fine but character specific guides are only useful if you plan on building those characters (obviously). Additionally, Vars’s main strength is making wide appealing general content not guides.
Due keep in mind however, I’m usually more critical on HSR content in particular because the game still haven’t been released for PlayStation, much to my dismay.
If you still haven't checked out Honkai: Star Rail you definitely should give it a try! Use my link: hoyo.link/f1ybChAd to download it. It really helps me out :)
I can't wait for "Why No One/Everyone Plays" Honkai Star Rails Edition
Himeko simp not gonna be happy
i love playing qingque, but i can already see her in there
@@ii5497aybe when Silver Wolf and Fu Xuan releases :)
rail*
@@ii5497 same
I was always fond of characters who do decent AOE damage and decent single target damage as well. So, its Jing Yuan for me the same way it was Childe for me back in the day
Nice Jing Yuan guide makes understanding his kit way easier.
Just in 1:28 you forgot about Tingyun being a lightning user lol
I can’t believe Star rail has numerous methods to increase crit rate. I really appreciate that about the game
tbh i think even if you don’t necessarily want Jing Yuan, his banner is absolutely great value bc of the 4 stars, especially if you’re f2p! Tingyun is arguably one of the best support units in the game rn, Sushang is a fantastic physical DPS, and March 7th has some nice eidolons to boot! ik conventional wisdom is you shouldn’t pull for 4 stars unless you’re okay with potentially getting the 5 star, but since we’re still so early in the game that even if you get Jing Yuan or one of the standard 5 stars that’s still overall a net-positive for your account :)
Honestly that was my mentality pulling on the banner. I didn’t care if I got him or not, because I already had a decently built Serval, so I decided to pull until I got the 5* and even if I lost the 50/50 I would probably still get a new character. Ended up getting him though, so only complaint is that I’ll never use Serval again lol.
Exactly my train of thought!
I got Tingyun AND a limited 5-star on top of that, what more could I ask for?
@@drm726 same here bro lol i didn’t really care if i got Jing Yuan bc i was satisfied just using Serval but i ended up winning the 50/50 for him + also snagging some eidolons for March 7th and Tingyun… guess im back to farming erudition mats lmaoo
@@1XXL1 nice dude!! Tingyun is so versatile and prob one of Jing Yuan’s best supports rn! hope you enjoy playing with them :)
As somebody who's planning to grind all of the f2p gems in the game for this man, i was praying you'd make this video!
GOOD LUCK
@@anyaaa2801 oh my gods thank youu!! I'm already 50 something pity in so let's pray
I tried to get Sushang to cope with not having Seele and instead got this guy in just 30 wishes!
Guess luck was on my side this time 😅
I have both seele and Jing yuan muhahahahaha JK may you have good luck on every banner ❤
Dude, the same thing happened to me but I also got Sushang.
I wasn't aiming for him but I'm happy I got him anyway.
Same here, I used all my Jade on Seele and lost her to Clara who I already have, but I did get Jingle bells in 1 pull and his cone in 20
For me who already used Elation because i have Clara and March 7th on my team, he really helps me in simulated universe. Before i pulled him I used Serval, but with him i can use the Elation path to the fullest extent.
As someone who has a decently built jing yuan speed feels way better than attack boots.
1:29 I guess Tingyun doesn't exist anymore
And qingque isn’t that bad though, her damage numbers are inflated as hell, 312% to main target and 130% to adjacent enemies, at E4 she can hit twice, which means 624%/260% (in comparison seeles ult deals 510% to a single target), and we didn’t even account for max 180% damage increases of her skill, 90% attack increase when entering her buffed state and her ult damage
He has a huge weakness: most of his power budget is allocated towards the thunder lord, and if he gets cc’d well that’s 70% damage lost for the turn
7:20 Based on how you use up your resources and/or rng, you could reach decent crit ration earlier than that. My seele for example has 60-100 ratio and I am not lvl 50 yet
As a f2p I had to choose Seele _or_ Jing Yuan and went with the general because;
- I desperately wanted Tingyun (the standard 5* I wanted most was/is Bronya but she's refusing to come home, so....)
- I don't mind March / Sushang dupes as I use them
- I have Bailu (so Luocha is not an absolute necessity)
- he's a husbando
- he _cheats_ by bringing a 5th character in 4 character game!! (who wouldn't want that?)
The existence of Serval / Kafka _did_ make me think but, hey, I can't wait until Kafka's release. The gacha itch needs to be scratched! I got Jing Yuan and his light cone (it helps that the light cone gacha has only _one_ 5* instead of two in Genshin, as someone always getting the _other_ 5* weapon) and I'm having so much fun.
even if you have bailu and gepard i'd not count out luocha he seems more valuable than silver wolf but he did get buffed and she did get nerfed
@@Pudding--_--silver wolf is probably the best nihility character
@@karinano1stan "probably" while luocha WILL be the best abundance character
Don’t get me wrong, Jing Yuen is great! Probably the best aoe character in the game so far. But I just don’t get why they would release a character with the same type and path combo as an existing one when there are so many combinations that have yet to be explored. Heck there is only one imagination character in the entire game so far and he’s a debuffer. They could have made him an imaginary erudition and I wouldn’t have batted an eye.
Also fits the color scheme of his attacks...
Because if people don't have Jing Yuan, they would feel left out of a Lightning Erudition character, so Serval is just a good alternative if you don't have the luck to pull him out.
@@dreelfantasy8842 By that logic they should have done the opposite and released 5* “upgrades” of every launch 4* before moving on to fill new type/path combos. But that’s not what they did with Seele.
@@drm726 I mean, I feel like Imaginary and Quantum are very rare elements, so they don't seem to worry about that much, but it's just a weird stretch.
Instructions unclear started simping for Gepard and his massive Shield.
One thing to keep in mind: Jingyun pairs well with the Bennett of this game: Tingyun since Asta's light cone, planetary rendevous, lets her buff his attack for simply being the same element. Added that Tingyun can boost his energy, it lets him get his 10 Lightning Lord stack very easily, its a very strong combo
Some light cone have this property of when using a team of a single element or more than 2 of the same element you get bonus status for the team. They will probably do more of this, Like Kafka’s kit, that she is based on characters that use DoT, not about elements itself but about game mechanics, not just raw damage. I hope they do more like this.
If I was just going for whatever I would skip and pull for Kafka, but I'll also be skipping Kafka and everyone else because I'm set on getting the Raiden Mei/Ei expy that will inevitably be released at some point.
When will u make tier lists?
i want someone to analyze sprightly vonwacq on characters like tingyun, maybe even seele in late game because you don't want to wear speed boots, but you want to outspeed various things still, which now have like 132 speed cause 120x1.1
I fear the future banners. I had self control in Genshin but I dunno about Star Rail 😭😭😭
1:25 Tingyun is lightning as well
Won the 50/50 for Jing Yuan so now I'm going for sliver wolf instead of kalfka
i was in the same boat, i needed electric dmg cause i never built serval, hit him. Now im a lucky bastard with gepard seele and bronya with jing yuan as a f2p. wish i had welt doh
Ah, and here I wanted to ask about a Clara guide
tingyun is also a lightning user, personally, im skipping jing yuan and waiting for kafka
i have E4 tingyun, do you think it's worth trying to get E6, i already got jing yuan but don't really want to spend more money
Star Rail! ❤
When are you adding an official CC for your videos? I enjoy your content but your voice ends up sounding muffled most of the time.
I got him in 10 pity accidentally after losing 50/50 to Bronya so... accidental win..? idk but I've been absolutely loving him.
Does anyone know if his signature's weapon bonus followup damage applies to his first hit or all hits?
Would you still pull the banner for 4 star eidolans? Or just wait? I pulled him first try but i want tinyun eidolans. Is it worth?
There is ONE THING I KNOW and thats that I will regret it if I pull for him and miss Kafka. Even if I do get both one of them would need to be benched since they both cover the same role wich is AOE ellectric DPS. Kafka is a DoT DPS while Jing Yuan is more of a Burst DPS but still they are both DPS's. So yeah Its either one or the other and I have to go for Kafka simply because her ult is badass as f***
Or you could just make two teams since you already need to for memory of chaos thats what I’m gonna do since I pulled jing yuan and now saving for kafka
@@zerovking7629 Yeah makes sense but I can use Serval in one team and try to go for another 5 Star like Clara. Its not sensible for an F2P to have 2 5*'s of the same element.
i have 50:200 crit ratio with Lightning sphere is that good or much higher cr is required?
i'm asking for a mid-late contents in chaos for jing yuan
I want skip him, but need fox lady. And get them both from 50 pull ) Now it's will be difficult to get Silver Wolf
1:30 *sad arlan and tıghyun noises*
the ending is just a Seele showcase
Is e0 jingyuan better than e6 serval
I’ve seen at least 3 guides for Jing and evidently they say basically the same thing
“His light cone is OP”, “These 4-stars are good alternatives---“, I don’t think there’s anything else to say besides what should be known 😆😅
As of around 10 hours ago from writing this comment, I won my 1st 5050. I wanted purple butterfly though 😞.
No idea why I am watching this as someome who skipping this banner for Loucha.
“Eidolons are not worth it. 200-300 U.S. dollars are better spent on a new character or weapon.”
… or ya know, rent. :P
Could buy plenty of complete games as well
Hoping to lose 50/50 on his banner so i could get welt❤
I'm trying to beat every simulated universe world with elation and I'm skipping him because I'm f2p and want Silver Wolf
Rip so no Clara guide from you
Use jingyuan AND serval
I accidentally got Seele trying to get Hook and now I'm determined to gather as much as I can for Kafka, her "Ara Ara" levels are absurd.
Actually the one that OP from Jing Yuan is his LC
Even Himeko and Herta is better with his LC than their own LC🤣🤣🤣
I just play hsr because i am very gay, so i am only going for my husband, and he is really carrying me xd, i just him with bailu, fire mc and tingyun, i am happy with him but i feel bad for serval, i really like her ....
4:28 jokes on you, I got *3* Jing Yuan as a F2P (thanks partially on getting Seele in my first 10 pull)
Ok but seriously my luck on my account is way too high like holy shit. I wasn't planning on getting eidolons for him but they came bc I wanted E1 Tingyun
i prefer playing jing yuan over seele becos he requires less brainpower
Seele require less brain power and sp management give her speed and hit auto
I tried elation in SU 6, the damage was crazy but it was still worse then other paths. With destruction I can auto everything including coco.
I tried getting him with 90 warps… got a grey haired old dude
THEY ARENT WEAPONS THEY ARE LIGHT CONES , CONES!!!!
First
The STRONGEST Erudition Character - Jing Yuan
Well, the strongest Erudiiton *yet*
Personally I would disagree with the analysis of Seele vs Jing Yuan because the dmg of Seele vs Yanqing/Dan Heng is pretty much the same if not smaller than the gap between JingYuan and Himeko/Serval/Qingque (damage calcs from Prydwen). Notably Seele is single target with pseudo AoE and Jing Yuan's AoE transfers well to single target.
Caveat: I'm a Seele hater, I think she has a ridiculous design and a flat personality
It's a shame I don't like his design (moles are one of the biggest turn-offs for me) because gameplay wise I like the idea of having basically 4.5 units with the .5 being an autonomus summon.
However, I will most likely save for mommy Kafka like about 90% of the playerbase.
Also I feel like there is no need to have one damage dealer of every element since every enemy has at least two weaknesses so "not having a lightning dd" isn't a valid point to pull for a character personally. Now, that might change in the future obviously.
1:28 Didn't include Tingyun, video ruined, didn't watch.
Seele is overrated. I don't understand how mihoyo brainwashed everyone into hard whaling for their very first character.
Seele is objectively stronger than jing yuan and you are spouting bs but ok
I skipped Seele for Jing Yuan and his light cone , but even I know full well that Seele isn't overrated. She is exceptional in almost all of the content that's currently in the game.
Same she is overrated ,also her animations are one of the worst in the game.
Other than that she is a really good DPS ,but I dont like her playstyle.
But afterall she is a Waifu ofcourse she is gonna be overrated
Just look at Kafka she is not even out or Silverwolf same scenario.
Altough Silverwolf seems good on paper ,but we will see how this goes.
@@doriansz3130 You're nitpicking at that point. You're either bad at the game or you dislike the game
I should have waited for jing yuan. Seele is kinda boring and flatchested.
I’m disappointed to be honest. This is one of the few Vars II videos that I haven’t bothered watching.
I usually am eagerly looking forward to new Vars content. I understand a lot of work goes into these videos, so I don’t want to sound rude.
I think that videos about HSR are fine but character specific guides are only useful if you plan on building those characters (obviously).
Additionally, Vars’s main strength is making wide appealing general content not guides.
Due keep in mind however, I’m usually more critical on HSR content in particular because the game still haven’t been released for PlayStation, much to my dismay.
I realize that guides can help to gauge a unit’s strengths and weaknesses before pulling but that’s not normally the reason for watching them.
Ques: Do I give a shit?
Ans: No
I was saving for loucha but accidentally got his E1 which is also a win and lose for a f2p like me 🥲