MIM-72A CHAPARRAL SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE AND M163 VULCAN MINI GUN SYSTEM HISTORIC FILM 71612
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Made by the Aberdeen Proving Ground, this film gives a history of the development of the MIM-72A/M48 Chaparral as well as the M163 Vulcan Air Defesne system. The M61 Vulcan is a hydraulically or pneumatically driven, six-barrel, air-cooled, electrically fired Gatling-style rotary cannon which fires 20 mm rounds at an extremely high rate (typically 6,000 rounds per minute). The M61 and its derivatives have been the principal cannon armament of United States military fixed-wing aircraft for fifty years.
The M163 Vulcan Air Defense System (VADS) is a self-propelled anti-aircraft gun (SPAAG) that was used by the United States Army. The M168 gun is a variant of the General Dynamics 20 mm M61 Vulcan rotary cannon, the standard cannon in most U.S. combat aircraft since the 1960s, mounted on either an armored vehicle or a trailer.
Chaparral was an American self-propelled surface-to-air missile system based on the AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missile system. The launcher is based on the M113 family of vehicles. It entered service with the United States Army in 1969 and was phased out between 1990 and 1998. It was intended to be used along with the M163 Vulcan Air Defense System, the Vulcan covering short-range short-time engagements, and the Chaparral for longer range use.
The MIM-72A missile was based on the AIM-9D Sidewinder. The main difference is that to reduce drag only two of the fins on the MIM-72A have rollerons, the other two having been replaced by fixed thin fins. The MIM-72's MK 50 solid-fuel rocket motor was essentially identical to the MK 36 MOD 5 used in the AIM-9D Sidewinder. The MIM-72 missile is launched from the M48 fire unit, consisting of a M730 tracked vehicle fitted with an M54 missile launcher capable of holding four missiles ready to fire. The M48 carries an additional eight missiles stowed.
The MIM-72A like the FIM-43 Redeye uses a first generation infra-red seeker, and can be fooled by flares and "hot brick" jammers, such as the L166 IRCM unit fitted to the Mi-24. Also the missile needs to be able to see the hot exhaust of an aircraft, making it a tail chase only missile. A similar B model for training was identical to the A model with the exception of a different warhead fuze.
The C version of the missile, from 1974, has an improved guidance section that gives the missile an all-aspect capability, as well as a new doppler radar fuze and an improved warhead. The fuze and warhead were adapted from the earlier Mauler program. C models were deployed between 1976 and 1981, reaching operational status in 1978. An experimental D model used the warhead from the C version with the seeker from the A model, but was not deployed.
The Chaparral system is manually fired by visually tracking the targets, slewing the missile carrier into the general direction, and waiting for the missile seekers to "lock on" to the target. It is not suitable for engaging helicopters "popping up" behind cover, for instance.
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I was stationed in in a Vulcan unit on Hahn air base Germany 85 to 90. Some of the best times of my life!
Thanks for your service to our great nation.
I was in Alpha Battery, 5/44 from 88 to 90. Then we got reassigned to 5/2 ADA in Crailsheim.
I was there with you sgt. Norris
@@wishyouwerebeer who is this
I remember both these weapon systems. Aschaffenberg, Germany, 79-82, 1/4 Inf Bn, 3rd ID, Fiori Kaserne.. Warriors!
They always accompanied our columns on REFORGER exercises.
I remember seeing A-10s land on the Autobahn too, using the overpasses as hangers to hide.
Chaparral is a shrubland plant community found primarily in the U.S. state of California, in southern Oregon, and in the northern portion of the Baja California Peninsula in Mexico. Roadrunners are known as "chaparral birds" because they are often found in the chaparral.
Was at Ft. Bliss from '76 - '79 when then Presidential Candidate Jimmy Carter came there for a live fire exercise. Oh what fun we had. Vulcan, Chaparral, A-10's, 'Red Eyes', 'Cobra' Gunships, shooting up a bunch of cars we dragged into the desert at McGregor Rage. Almost like it was yesterday.
Robert Frizzell McGregor Range I couldn't remember that name for shit!! White Sands Missile Range...live fire for 16Series ADA Vulcan Chaparral/RedEye-Stinger and Patriot was just coming on line when I did Basic-A.I.T.@ Ft.Bliss Mar-July 1986....wish I could've done Permanent Party heard it wasn't too bad. I did go to Juarez-Cuadid. What an "experience". Lol. Thanks for memories you brought back. Air Defense Artillery rocks!!!!
I went to basic and AIT at Ft Bliss in 76. Then they sent me to Budingen Germany. I think this is the film they showed me at the recruitment center.
Bliss in 86-87....Vulcaneer Baby!
sevenravens i was at budening 74 76.,as a Vulcan Gunner welcome back to the world.brother. 3/61 ada alpha15 with sgt.hopkins aka hoppy
I was at Fort Bliss from 75 to 76 16 Sierra 10 16 Romeo 10 don't forget about the quad fifties mounted on the back of a deuce and a half at Fort Bliss Texas price and New Mexico it's been many time out there in the desert you'd be surprised was out there in the desert in the mountains LOL that's for real overall I had a great time especially in Logan Heights Loop camp and AIT Fort Bliss James Boyd Waco Texas later
I remember both these weapon systems. Aschaffenberg, Germany, 79-82, 1/4 Inf Bn, 3rd ID, Fiori Kaserne.. Warriors!
They always accompanied our columns on REFORGER exercises.
I remember seeing A-10s land on the Autobahn too, using the overpasses as hangers to hide.
I remember all the Hawk Missile bases too.
I was stationed in Gieblestadt Germany
Today I once again shared the link to this video.
So others will know about this integrated system of weapons and support vehicles, doctrine, tactics and operational procedures.
It makes me feel nostalgic for when I rode my dinosaur, ready in case the balloon went up and we'd be in a hot war against the Soviets.
i would love to see the military go back to this format for pomotional videos. Amazing.
I used to be a Chaparral / Vulcan Platoon Leader (11th ADA Brigade) Fort Bills, Texas (1985-1989).
Thanks for your service to our great nation.
Dont be shy, tell us a few stories !!
Fernando Luis Peña Mirabal
I was TDY (TDA) at Lackland Air Force Base Jan-May 1985.
D-5-52 chap crewman, 24 ID 84-85, d 2-61, 2 ID 85-86. Road Runners.
Worked as Chaparral section chief for 1/51st ADA at Ft. Ord Delta Battery. Was fortunate to have been able to fire both the Vulcan and Chap. Awesome weapons for sure. I still think even better than its Roland replacement. Great part of American Military history for sure. Ah, the good Ole days...
I was in E Co. 707th Maint. 81-82. I remember 1/51 very well.
My first unit I was assigned to in November of 1989 was HHB 4/5 ADA 1CD Vulcan/Chaparral. When I arrived, they had just turned in the Chaparral vehicles. The only thing they had left was the Vulcan and that went away just after Desert Storm when the 1st. Cav came back from the middle east.
FAAR ops in Korea, Camp Stanley, 2nd division. Last tour '79-'80. Loads of fun. Ft. Bliss Basic and AIT, two tours in Korea, and one at Ft. Ord California. FAAR mostly didn't work, generator was loud and we lived in fox holes and behind our concertina wire near the DMZ. Lots of watch duty...
They should bring back the old Vulcans one last time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With the preponderance of drones and heavily armored attack helicopters in today's hostile skies, updated versions of each system would be a welcome addition to the Army's maneuver forces.
Super Vid 👍
Only operated the M113, M106, & M125- was very familiar w/ these two.
Love these these films. Many thanx, be safe 🦊
24M20 here. (1968-1971).... lot's of training/testing Ft. Bliss Tx , Ft Carson, Co. Combined system in AA support for infantry units. M163 upgraded with doppler range radar, enabling more effective and accurate fire on areal targets... As of my ETS Unsure if it was ever deployed to Vietnam. If so , strictly used as convoy and infantry support.
Back in the day 1973 -1975 A 2/61 ADA S. Korea. 2nd Inf. Div. RC-4 Vulcan gunner , Clear The Sky Sir !
Oh man, I remember watching this at Ft. Bliss, TX in Feb '77. Burned a lot of 20mm over the years after. B 1/51 ADA '77-'78 Ft. Ord, A 6/56 ADA '79-'81, A 1/51 ADA '81-'83, A 2/59 ADA '83-'86, B 2/62 ADA 91-'92.
I was also in fort bliss in 90 91 92
Wasn't 5/52 at Stewart until just before Desert Storm?
William Payton yes it was i was there 86-88 bravo battery
Good stuff. I went to A Battery when it was freshly named A 1-5 AAA....That's who I went to the Storm with. Victory!!
First to fight!!!
Chaparral Gunner, 1/62 ADA, 25th inf div. 1971-1972
I built both these weapon systems.
Chap and Vulcan batteries added a platoon of Redeye/Stingers by 1984.
During our live fire defense at Fort Irwin in 1990 our ADA batteries got to fire in a ground engagement mode.....day and night. Pretty impressive display. Those little 113's are slow as hell compared to a Bradley or an Abrams however.
why the Army never fielded a replacement based on the MLRS chassis is beyond me. put modern AMRAAMS or Evolved Sea Sparrow and you have a really awesome medium range ADA system.
@@williamt.sherman9841 we have sort of a stopgap with the new stryker equipped with stingers/hellfires, but the mechanized units still lack a proper mobile aa unit.
@@janko7245 that's because we use Air Dominance over AA batteries. Better to spend the money on more aircraft than on armored vehicles vulnerable to anti radiation missiles
I was stationd in a chap vulcan unit A battery 544 spangdahlem air base Germany 1986 -1989 went to the island of creet and todendorf Germany on the north sea.
Boy that was a once in a lifetime experience. I had a great time traveld all over Europe.it was great.
I remember evaluating 5-44 for ARTEP. I was in 3-44 at Zweibruken, Ramstein, K-town....... 87-90
How you doing Sgt. Garcia?
I was stationed at Headquarters Battery, 6th Battalion 56th ADA, at Spang from 1974-1976. Took six trips with the towed Vulcans to Todendorf every March and August, but only one trip to Crete in July '76 with the Chaparrals.
I was at C 5/3 89-92 McCully Barracks Wackernheim Germany. Sundragons!
I was born as a Chapparal Crewman in D Battery, 3rd Battalion, 61st ADA, 3rd Armored Division, V Corp, Germany. Fulda Gap Baby. Fired a Redeye in Graf and a Chap in Greece.
I was at Fort Hood with 1stBn-68th ADA from 1974 to 1976. Trained at Bliss as a Chapparal crewman but was assigned to the FAAR Platoon at Fort Hood. Never did figure out how to operate the damn thing. Didn't matter though. It was always down for one reason or another. Total piece of junk. My Crew chief was a sharp guy who had served several years in FAAR units. He said don't worry about the thing not working, we would mot last long anyway once the
shooting started. Also, he made sure we had around 1000 feet of commo wire to string out from field phones to the track. He said the experts must not have took into consideration the effective blast radius of a 500 pound bomb that would no doubt have our names on it. 100 feet of wire was not nearly enough LOL.
Damn if I would want to sit behind a piece of plastic and fire a sidewinder.
Jan. 2018---Thanks for the video as I'm getting back into modeling, this time zombie/apocalypse dioramas in 1/35th scale and the Vulcan would be great as an anti-zombie vehicle. Show some survivors attempting to get one running at some military museum.
I was in A-4-1 Vulcan/Chaparral & A-5-62 Vulcan/Chap/Stinger at Ft Bliss, TX, '84-'86. Neither were very effective in an anti-aircraft role. Stinger was far more effective. We also tested the prototype Sgt. York gun system, which was to replace the Vulcan. When I left in November '86 they'd already cancelled the program.
Aim 9 missiles were and are as effective as stingers. We still use aim 9 on all American fighter jets.
There in 1969
@@djl5634 the Sidewinder is fine in an air to air capacity as it was designed for. When ground-launched, there is a loss of range. Plus, The Sidewinder was not an all-aspect missile until later models, so the target had to be going away to get a lock. The Chapparal was pretty limited.
@@trbenoit nasam uses aim 120. They are pretty effective. So I don't see why a sidewinder couldn't. Depends on the skill of the team building the radar and targeting systems.
@@djl5634 you're comparing apples to oranges, but well, that's just it..the Aim120 is a radar-guided missile & it has the benefit of a search/targeting radar, plus it has a far longer range by design...the Sidewinder is a heat-seeking missile and the Chapparal had no effective radar warning/tracking system. The FAAR would only give you the general direction of a target at a short range.
IAF - AA 946 regiment - Chaparral.
1996 - 1999
I served with the 4th ID Mechinized 76-79. The Chaparrel and the Vulcan were our ADA. they could kick ass on the drones they fired on.
C/2/3 Basic '69, Logan Heights. dual MOS Chaparral/Vulcan 16R in AIT B/4/1 on main post. Chose Chaparral duty C/5/67 Biggs Field. Two Chaparral six month combat trials,. Chaparral training film, misc. testing. First trial was six months in the desert 24/5 with armed missiles then fired them at the end. Two years of riding in the desert, in California and fun during the Vietnam War. I was drafted and luck of the draw.
Man, I was in C Battery 5/67 (First and the Finest) 1970-72. Trained as 16R too and then they split it and I became a 16P Chaparral crewman. And got drafted too and thought I was fated to go off on the "Eastern Adventure Tour" but ended up in Texas. Plus, I got a 6 month drop, so I was only in for 18 months and a few days. And I enjoyed the desert.
B btry. 1/59th ADA Wakernheim Germany 74\75 Sooo much fun to shoot!! i got to shoot up and old car in Ground mode on the range at Ft. Bliss. 100 rd. burst. It was considered a kill if it changed shape, changed color, or caught fire and or exploded. It did all!!!
Cool and interesting video. Just one minor thing: in the title description it says Mini-gun rather than the full size Vulcan cannon. The mini-guns were 7.62 mm ammunition (hence mini) not the 20mm used by the cannon. A common error these days when describing this weapon system family. 💥
Thank U for posting
Micro-guns are pretty cool too.
@cliff deal AH-1 Cobra used a 20mm Vulcan variant, that is essentially a 3-barrelled version of the normal Vulcan cannon. Additionally, the earlier variants of the AH-1 didn't even have a cannon, but rather twin M134 miniguns and a 40mm twin Mk19 turret instead. The AH-1F was the variant that introduced the 20mm cannon, if I am not mistaken.
EDIT: Not a second after double checking, I found it was the AH-1E that introduced the 20mm cannon.
@cliff deal Well bud, I know a few soldiers and pilots etc as well. I'm not trying to be hostile, sorry if I came across as hostile. You can look it up for yourself in books and on the internet though, bud! The gun on the AH-1 is the M197! Again, sorry if I sound like I'm hostile, it isn't my intention! I just feel and am pretty sure I'm correct about this. IDK what your conversation was with him, but I wasn't there in 76 at Norfolk so *shrug*. Either there's a conspiracy to tell the world that it's a 20mm, but it's actually a 30mm, or something else isn't right.
@cliff deal Indeed!
@cliff deal I think I heard that too bud! I'm not 100% on it though, but I wouldn't be too surprised.
супер спасибо
I was i B 2/67 ADA Mannheim Germany,The Vulcan was to slow and the Chaparral too.But it put a volume of fire 3,000 rounds a minute,The drum only had 1700 round at any one time.The radar never worked properly either.I was in Coleman Barracks with the BIG RED ONE.
Thanks for your service to our great nation.
When were you there? I was B Btry 2/67 ADA Coleman Barracks February 84, got sent down to Germ to train for the batallions Nijmegen team so we could train in the countryside, several weeks after getting to Germ and only after about 2 months in country the batallion got orders to move to Ft Riley Ks, I said "Well, I'm not going, I had Europe put in my contract when I enlisted and I JUST got here", they told me I had no choice and had to go, after 1 year at Ft Riley (shit hole) I found out that there was a form I could have filled out and got to stay in Germany but that information was withheld from me because they didn't want to loose personal, the main punk responsible for withholding the information was Lt. Hanko, he got to stay in Germany with his girlfriend, I pray one day I get to run into him.
What years
I was with B Btry 1st. Of 67th. ADA Ft. LEWIS 1973 THRU 1974 TIL ETS.
those Navajo and apache aren't ready
I like that sound of firing. No nonsense ass kicker.(this would have easily stopped the kamakazies if we had them back then)
just nostalgic i guess, 2/5 ADA HEADQUARTERS FT HOOD I WAS THE MECHANIC 63 BUDWEISER AND 52 DELTA AND GENERATORS 85-88
I remember the jet blast as the F-4's buzzed us in training
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Those systems had already been retired from the service. Now the US Army operates the Avenger system the combination of stiger and calibre 50 machinegun.
We have the best names and acronyms!
Had lot of fun shooting all three
Its and 68 fort hood TX 74 convoy to white sands to fire I got to fire a sidewinder what a rush
M163 Vulcan the us army need to reissue these Awsome dragons breath s in Afghanistan
3rd Herd Charlie Company 1/67 ADA Ft. Lewis 87-89 (towed Chap), 5/5 ADA Camp Stanton, Korea 89-90 Chaparral crewman and LT's driver.
well, you had to nerf aerial attacks one way or another...
.5 k tactical Nerf enough ? Watch out for the red white and blue birds...
My son and I love watching the Chaparral clips. It reminds me of a GI Joe 1970s toy that was supposed to provide defensive capability with new technology but didn't do anything, broke, and was kind of interesting to look at. I love how the operator sits in an oil drum with a cool plex-glass window, has no real radar capability but for the audio sound of the "ping" on his fluffy headset. Suffice to say, these systems appear to be the evolutionary necessities to get to something bigger and better. I do, however, find it hilarious that the narrator completely bullshits about the Chaparral being read to stop, gear up, and fire in 30 secs - lol. What a hoax. Notice how nothing is destroyed by the models presented. Again, GI Joe toys were of better quality however I love the novelty of these videos.
The Chaparral is still in service with the Portuguese Army providing the only tracked anti-air system and 1 of 3 anti-air options (the other 2 being the Stinger manpad and twin 20mm cannons). During life fire exercises, the Chaparral has achieved betewen 80 to 90% efectiveness in shooting down, the targets where fast moving drones at over 2km of distance and about 3000 feet of altitude. It remains reliable despite the avanced age, to be replaced in the near future
according to John, America must take care their veterans
16R from 1977-1992 then 14R
Shot down a jet drone with my Chaparral on the island of Sardinia around 1971.
So in case of bad weather, they would be defenseless. Brilliant.
jednoucelovy The radar abilities of the air and ground units evolve together and have remained essentially equivalent. If the ground units are incapacitated by the weather you can bet the air units are as well...if not more so. When I was a 16R in the 80s our main objective was to guard against attack helicopters and suppress enemy infantry in an armor attack. It was a good system for both these roles even though we burned through ammo very, very quickly.
BTW the description above states 6000 RPM the M163 fired at 3000 RPM max or at a lower rate of fire which was a similar rate of fire as the 50 cal. We never used this rate of fire as it had a tendency to jamb the system.
+b w I was @ Ft. Bliss from 1982-1985. Biggs Army Airfield actually
+b w It's interesting to see how these systems were only marginally upgraded through their lifetimes while the Soviets and later Russians developed whole new generations of AA systems (SA9, -10, -11, -12 etc. and the formidable ZSU-23-4M and later Tunguska). I've wondered if this was because the emphasis for NATO and the US was on massive air power, whereas the Soviets were focused more on the ground attack, knowing they couldn't qualitatively match us in the air and therefore leaned on ADA vehicles.
I was 16P-10. Basic & AIT at Ft. Bliss '81, '82 then Ft Ord. I was the driver. I think the SA9 Gaskin was closest soviet counterpart at the time.
***** No, but it did come with a canopy you could assemble and the driver could unfold the missile blast shields and cover the cab of the carrier and nest - laying across the seat over the engine bay (with it's heat it gives off) and make cozy noises for the rest of the crew to listen to. That was - at least until a certain spec.-4 named Puente took a dump in the engine bay because it was warm and toasty - his reasoning was; "It had to be 6 below out there last night!, Adam's is going to be the one cleaning the baked-on poo mess, anyway, what's it to ya?!" Ah, the Army. The camaraderie...
Vulcan is also a planet full of elves
I wish the 80s came back. Anyone have a time machine?
5:06
oh shit oh shit oh shit.....whew.
I was in the 1/3 air defense art at Ft Campbell Kentucky. The Vulcan was alright but the Chapi was the biggest let down JUNK in every area. It had mores does and dont's than your mama. I honestly do not think it ever downed 1 drone or anything in its entire history. Never has so much time been spent just to keep it from breaking down every day. Reading the FM you will see dont do this do this dont do dont do not , never , cannot, never ever, ect ect. I was so happy to be transfered to 3/59th ADA in Germany Improved Hawk system that worked so good it would take the entire launcher with it if you forgot to un bolt the dam thing. Saw one fly 20 miles with the launcher at Crete in 1976.
Marco Cota Beautiful House Eugene Oregon Station from 1975 to 1978 Alpha battery 1Bn 1 ADA Bad kissingen Germany, went to Creta 3 times first time range guard, second time as a ICWAR operator,Third time Alpha Fire Control Operator, we took Honor battery 1976, 99.8 firing score, under Captain Lang (Grants Pass Oregon.) Great to hear from another Hawker,,,
During my AIT on the Vulcan and Chaparral, fall of 1970, we had a demonstration for a general and a senator. I shot down a drone with the Chaparral. At firing the missile, my canopy was immediately covered with smoke. When it cleared the missile had already hit the drone so all I got to see was the trail of smoke up to the point of impact and the aftermath of falling smoking parts off in the distance.
62nd bn.
Ada. Ace
25th infantry division
Hawaii
Had all three
Teach division how use air defense
Have video room teach how use air defense
Mid 70s
have it
Any other guys was st ft ord 77 to 80 c btry 1/51 ada
Gregory Hankins Does Fort Hunter Liggett count,, Took basic training at Fort Ord 75,, H 2/3 Highly motivated dedicated to the mission of training.😁
946, Arduf,Barkan,1998
Vulcanized me.
I was in 1980 to 1987 Fort Bliss and Fort ord And Germany Cawley Burke's Spangdahlem Hahn air base They Make it look so easy No camouflage They don't even have stuff on them No canteen No gas mask Where the hell's their weapon And don't forget it's only a 120 outside Where's their duffel bags O yeah sleep on the floor in the dirt There's so much wrong with this video's Of course they lied Harry up and wait what's the model
Anyone else seeing double?
10:15 thats the forward
alerting radar terminal. f.a
r.t
1st59th a battery transfer to delta got todendorf once to shoot..twice to crete as senior gunner ( missile didn't hit both times) excellent tone I think our system guys were tards...tactical hit...
77 79
But will the Chaparral lock onto a jet from the front in middle european November weather before it attacked? Will the gunner hit multiple targets before he is out of ammo?
0MoTheG
Eventually, the Chapparal had a IR camera sight in the turrent. It had decent night capability for its era, up to about 7-8 miles or so (about the range of the sidewinder). Last watched a Chapparal in 1997 after which the last launcher we're given to the Koreans.
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Can the Vulcan fire 50. cal ammo
No!
20mm > .50 cal.
You are why we had comic book -10s
@@artstmartin3186 it has 50cal an 20mm feeds belt Stan Lee
A logical development would have been to use an all aspect seeker (AIM-9L or M) and tie it to something like an APG-66 radar with SEAM. That could have been an excellent system.
Sp vulcan
old but gold this needs the ukraine
I think they did get the Chaparral or are about to soon?
Russian SAM system is the best !