Talons caused so many problems with my boat I almost sold em I have finally after several props and changes and lithium batteries got it worked out but it was a huge problem and a big added cost
Elephant Butte, NM about 4348 ft at 30% full now. My restored 1992 20’1’’ Champion with a brand new Yamaha 250 VMAX SHO (2.3hrs into break in) pops right onto plane. Nice hole shot at altitude and I’m easing it up. That Atlas Jack-plate is awesome too. I better hold on when I go to Texas or Florida. Got tired of waiting for Merc to delivery their 250 V8. Waited over a year. Waited 2 weeks for the Yammy. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the video series. This confirms my biggest suspicion that my batteries are affecting my holeshot. I have a Falcon 195 with 4 heavy ass batteries in the back. Add in a full livewell and my heavy self and the holeshot suffers. The boat was really made for 3 batteries, but i guess I wanted those 36 volts.
THANK YOU for not only this video but all of the other videos you have done. I have picked up information here and there that have answered many of my questions that I could/would have figured out on my own through trial and error and possibly some expensive repairs! A video that I would like to see in the future would be getting on pad in shallow water utilizing the hydraulic jackplate. I have an idea of how to do it but there has to be some do's and don't's regarding. It wouldn't necessarily have to be an "on the water" demonstration...just talk us through it. Thanks again!
Agree, I got a tracker and was looking for some tips on hole shot after having a jackplate and whale tale which both help but this is some good info I never thought of. Although, damn when he started that motor it's got a nice throaty sound made me jealous with my 60hp Mercury
the altitude problem you mentioned is for carbureted engines. fuel injected engines the computer compensates for the difference in barometric pressure at different elevations.
Let's see...I'm 280, have a 50 hp on an aluminum deep vee, always carry a shitload of gear, and usually a cooler full of beer, and my fishing buddy is bigger than I am, the lakes I fish are 200 acres or less, and I have never fished in a tournament ..YET I find this video really interesting ! Cool stuff!
😁No hole shot needed. My specs are identical...50 hp Yamaha, 16'8" aluminum deep V, but I'm only a 165 lb guy. I spend a lot of time on a 420 square mile lake (St Clair) so I need all the help I can get. The biggest point I took from this video is to have the boat weight balanced with all the gear.
Is a 50 Mercury 2 stroke good enough for the weight,gear etc on the aluminum boat you just mentioned? Im new to this so any help will be great.Thank You
Great info. I currently have a 2016 Pantera II. As you know, its a rocket out the hole. I had a 2014 Eyra and your hole shot is MUCH faster. I was propped to high was one of my issues, Also, I didnt lower the JP all the way down. Great info for current Eyra owners. I hope to be in another Eyra in the future. Thanks for all the videos you do. Taking time out from your busy schedule and family to shoot these is a big help. Especially to new boat owners.
I love this series. I expect it's slated to be covered eventually but I'd like to see a video on countering chine walking. My new boat tends to do it around 65-67 mph, which frankly, gives me great deal of pucker factor at those speeds. I usually just trim down but I can't help but to think I'm missing other (perhaps better) options.
One of my pet peeves is coming off plane and the wake splashing up on the back so I always give a little blip of the throttle and it sort of cancels out the wake haha then I have a dry rear deck
I’d like to know how u run new lakes you’ve never been to. Like stumps sand bars grass flats all the dangers out there. Do u idle a lot across things? I’ve seen locals on lakes running and I’m idling because my map shows possible dangers. Any help would be appreciated. Thank u sir
Great info for me as a brand new bass boat owner (nitro Z18 with a Mercury 150hp, 23Pfury prop). also have 6in bobs action hyd plate, Having issues with my holeshot (sluggish), bow straight up), do you have any info on PVS plugs?
I discovered I have been a little confused/misled/misunderstood I guess, thought weight in the back was good just in general. This cleared things up very well, thanks. Always makes me miss SML too. Nice job in the opener BTW!! So I've heard "people" say to put basket balls in the jack plate to help with hole shot, to add a little flotation I guess - any truth to that or just snake oil? Seems like a bandaid for other problems. When you asked for comments, it came to mind as something I'd seen mentioned before.
I just bought a 2023 19 trx patriot with the 225, poles, and plate. Everything trimmed all the way down, and the boat would only stand straight up. Had to trim the plate up significantly. Any other thoughts?
I see you read comments so one question please. I have a Cougar FTD with a 250 Suzuki. So no Mercury. I can get a satisfactory hole shot with full gas, 2 big guys, full lw, 4 lead batteries and 2 PP. BUT...after trying various jackplate levels, I observe getting my best hole shot with jack plate up around 3 inches or higher. I saw you recommended jp all the way down at tackoff. Is this just in my head is my rig a different situation with my engine and boat setup? I totally realize you're giving field proven accurate info and not questioning your advice whatsoever. I have a different outboard and boat or course.
It could be a 2min video, and it would take John 1:30sec to get to the point. But, when he does he's the best. Absolutely, love the guy, but man he LOVES to talk.
I have a power pole just one on the driver side. I’m new to boating and first bass boat. When I try to take off it feels like the boat really unstable and leans to the right. How do I correct this because does freak me out a little
It could be because of your weight if you are alone. Once the boat tilts, the gas in the gas tank will make it worse. It’s nothing to worry about. You can move your gear to the opposite site to counter
@@JohnCrews I'm thinking about getting rid of the power pole because i Have a minn Kota Ultrex coming and using that for anchoring. Allow me to take some weight off the driver side of the boat. I only use it for putting on trailer and off trailer.
Unfortunate that you didn’t open up your battery compartment to show your lithium battery placement in the video, I would’ve liked to have seen that in the video
Watching all of your driving videos and they are helping for when I get me a boat thank you
Talons caused so many problems with my boat I almost sold em I have finally after several props and changes and lithium batteries got it worked out but it was a huge problem and a big added cost
weird I had 2 12's and never had an issue. I sold those and now have 8 footers because I have spotlock.
Gotta say I love these videos ❤ not enough of this information out there for boaters
Elephant Butte, NM about 4348 ft at 30% full now. My restored 1992 20’1’’ Champion with a brand new Yamaha 250 VMAX SHO (2.3hrs into break in) pops right onto plane. Nice hole shot at altitude and I’m easing it up. That Atlas Jack-plate is awesome too. I better hold on when I go to Texas or Florida. Got tired of waiting for Merc to delivery their 250 V8. Waited over a year. Waited 2 weeks for the Yammy. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the video series. This confirms my biggest suspicion that my batteries are affecting my holeshot. I have a Falcon 195 with 4 heavy ass batteries in the back. Add in a full livewell and my heavy self and the holeshot suffers. The boat was really made for 3 batteries, but i guess I wanted those 36 volts.
Jerry Li Could be the case.
THANK YOU for not only this video but all of the other videos you have done. I have picked up information here and there that have answered many of my questions that I could/would have figured out on my own through trial and error and possibly some expensive repairs! A video that I would like to see in the future would be getting on pad in shallow water utilizing the hydraulic jackplate. I have an idea of how to do it but there has to be some do's and don't's regarding. It wouldn't necessarily have to be an "on the water" demonstration...just talk us through it. Thanks again!
Moe Hill, Jr. Thanks Moe. I can do that video for sure. There are some tricks to doing that
One 200 pd. Person knocks 6 to 8 mph off my top end while also turning 1000 more rpms. Weight kills a boats performance. Great video once again.
Good stuff as always! That Mercury just sounds so good!
Agree, I got a tracker and was looking for some tips on hole shot after having a jackplate and whale tale which both help but this is some good info I never thought of. Although, damn when he started that motor it's got a nice throaty sound made me jealous with my 60hp Mercury
@@DadDnumba1 no kqkq,
the altitude problem you mentioned is for carbureted engines. fuel injected engines the computer compensates for the difference in barometric pressure at different elevations.
richard cranium Helps but I still notice a power difference. Not like the old motors for sure
Let's see...I'm 280, have a 50 hp on an aluminum deep vee, always carry a shitload of gear, and usually a cooler full of beer, and my fishing buddy is bigger than I am, the lakes I fish are 200 acres or less, and I have never fished in a tournament ..YET I find this video really interesting ! Cool stuff!
😁No hole shot needed.
My specs are identical...50 hp Yamaha, 16'8" aluminum deep V, but I'm only a 165 lb guy. I spend a lot of time on a 420 square mile lake (St Clair) so I need all the help I can get. The biggest point I took from this video is to have the boat weight balanced with all the gear.
@@NorthernMike so true! Tight lines!
Is a 50 Mercury 2 stroke good enough for the weight,gear etc on the aluminum boat you just mentioned? Im new to this so any help will be great.Thank You
Great info. I currently have a 2016 Pantera II. As you know, its a rocket out the hole. I had a 2014 Eyra and your hole shot is MUCH faster. I was propped to high was one of my issues, Also, I didnt lower the JP all the way down. Great info for current Eyra owners. I hope to be in another Eyra in the future. Thanks for all the videos you do. Taking time out from your busy schedule and family to shoot these is a big help. Especially to new boat owners.
Once again would love for you to do a video on taking waves coming from the front and sides like in a tournament blast off!
Jessica Eaton It’s on the list to shoot! Thanks
This is what I’m waiting for too!! His videos are the only ones on this subject!!! So good!!
Great video! Thanks for doing these! Was pullin for u at St. John’s! Great finish
I love this series. I expect it's slated to be covered eventually but I'd like to see a video on countering chine walking. My new boat tends to do it around 65-67 mph, which frankly, gives me great deal of pucker factor at those speeds. I usually just trim down but I can't help but to think I'm missing other (perhaps better) options.
Inigo Montoya Oh yes. It’s coming. Will shoot when conditions are right. Thanks
Nice videos! Much success!
( FYI... Aerator is pronounced "AIR - A - tor"... not like a lot of guys say... "air - e - a - tor" )
Ha! I know you’re right but I can’t stop now! 😂
One of my pet peeves is coming off plane and the wake splashing up on the back so I always give a little blip of the throttle and it sort of cancels out the wake haha then I have a dry rear deck
Best way to get up on plane in skinny water for example less than 4’ (like if ya have a very large sand bar)
Great video, well explained with some great tips as always!
I’d like to know how u run new lakes you’ve never been to. Like stumps sand bars grass flats all the dangers out there. Do u idle a lot across things? I’ve seen locals on lakes running and I’m idling because my map shows possible dangers. Any help would be appreciated. Thank u sir
Michael Leach Good idea for a new video. Hammer down is not the correct answer. Lol
yep I would like to see that too
@@JohnCrews Good topic!
Sml is 20-30mins from my house hope to see you on the water
Make a video on chime walking please. I’m trying to learn how to correct it but it chine walk a really bad at 74mph
Have you tried starting with the jack plate up 2 in ? Really made my Puma FTD jump!
JT Compton Yes, too deep can be a problem. I did not go into that deal because I covered it on my jack plate video. Good input
Great info for me as a brand new bass boat owner (nitro Z18 with a Mercury 150hp, 23Pfury prop). also have 6in bobs action hyd plate, Having issues with my holeshot (sluggish), bow straight up), do you have any info on PVS plugs?
I discovered I have been a little confused/misled/misunderstood I guess, thought weight in the back was good just in general. This cleared things up very well, thanks. Always makes me miss SML too. Nice job in the opener BTW!!
So I've heard "people" say to put basket balls in the jack plate to help with hole shot, to add a little flotation I guess - any truth to that or just snake oil? Seems like a bandaid for other problems. When you asked for comments, it came to mind as something I'd seen mentioned before.
I just bought a 2023 19 trx patriot with the 225, poles, and plate. Everything trimmed all the way down, and the boat would only stand straight up. Had to trim the plate up significantly. Any other thoughts?
I see you read comments so one question please. I have a Cougar FTD with a 250 Suzuki. So no Mercury. I can get a satisfactory hole shot with full gas, 2 big guys, full lw, 4 lead batteries and 2 PP. BUT...after trying various jackplate levels, I observe getting my best hole shot with jack plate up around 3 inches or higher. I saw you recommended jp all the way down at tackoff. Is this just in my head is my rig a different situation with my engine and boat setup? I totally realize you're giving field proven accurate info and not questioning your advice whatsoever. I have a different outboard and boat or course.
What brand of life jacket do you wear ??
Funny question. How do you keep your hat on straight and it not fly off?
It could be a 2min video, and it would take John 1:30sec to get to the point. But, when he does he's the best. Absolutely, love the guy, but man he LOVES to talk.
I have a power pole just one on the driver side. I’m new to boating and first bass boat. When I try to take off it feels like the boat really unstable and leans to the right. How do I correct this because does freak me out a little
It could be because of your weight if you are alone. Once the boat tilts, the gas in the gas tank will make it worse. It’s nothing to worry about. You can move your gear to the opposite site to counter
@@JohnCrews I'm thinking about getting rid of the power pole because i Have a minn Kota Ultrex coming and using that for anchoring. Allow me to take some weight off the driver side of the boat. I only use it for putting on trailer and off trailer.
Adjust your trim tab , above the prop
are you using lithium as your crank battery thanks
After your on plane what do you do with the trim? Up or down? New to boat operating but I assume it depends on the chop?
Andrew Alkhazshvilly Yes, need explanation. Check my bass boat driving 101 video. Should help
When it steers effortlessly your trim is spot on..
John do a video on why you chose the Eyra over the Cougar/Puma. Thanks
Basscater81 Good idea. I need to get in a Puma or Cougar again to do a really good comp video. I’ll try to do it this year. Thanks
Hole shot for what? Are we drag racing?
Shoulda had Big Wood riding witcha, see how dat Bass Cat do lol
🤘🏼😂
Why does the hole shot matter?
4 stroke engines aren’t nearly as sensitive as the older 2 stroke engines are.
Let's get the altitude thing straight. On a naturally.engine you loose 3 1/2% per 1000 feet of altitude gain. That is all.
Nice. Thanks for the numbers behind it.
Why is a "hole shot" so important? Why does it matter if you get on plane in 5, 10, 15, or 20 seconds? Why????
The same reason top speed is important to many people.
Unfortunate that you didn’t open up your battery compartment to show your lithium battery placement in the video, I would’ve liked to have seen that in the video
Robert Haeberle Good point. I cover that compartment in my Charge video or my boat rigging videos if you don’t mind checking those
And he didn’t blip the throttle to keep from swamping the back deck. 😂
Money shot?
Sold my poles. Not worth the drag
Not everyone can afford 300 dollar batteries
Adam Kinnear I know this but that to give all options.
I have better advise then that and I'm not a pro. Just buy a Yamaha Mercury are junk
BT gus Yamaha engines are good but that statement is ridiculous.
@@JohnCrews I own and love my Yamaha but that statement is uninformed.
Its not driving read blacks law