I was not aware to be honest that only rear motor is affected by P settings limit. Are you sure about that? Thats not an usual practice in escooter controller making. ? But to answer, i do not know of any other way and i am pretty sure max power is the speed we got in the test.
This is a hard one. X10 is like ninja due to suspension! This one does not have suspension that makes you feel like it is ready for anything. Hero has more power and larger battery. However, g3 pro is very good. It is just a dollar question actually. You get alot for little from G3 PRO.
i have had nothing but issues with mine, the controller burnt out after just 55 miles. Whilst i got a repsonce initially form Kugoo support they then asked me to send videos and simply totally ignoed subsequent emails. I had to buy a new controller to get it going again - id never ever buy another kugoo product the support is non existent.
Sorry to hear that, the one i reviewed is still going well, has around 3800 Km and friend is using it every day for job to home commute. While the performance of Vlaken and Kugoo are the same, battery brand and capacity are different. As for the warranty etc.. , Vlaken is the actual factory for Kugoo, and Kugoo service for customers are their own. I do not know anybody at Kugoo, but i would not let them go so easy if i had problem. It is unfair if you proven your problem with video to pay anything. One thing is to pay for part to be shipped, another is to pay for parts that were faulty. Anyways, i hope your new controller keeps on going for miles..
@@EvNerds there is no support at all be warned, if it goes wrong your on your own buddy. Initially i emailed them and was asked for a "video of the issue", which i found bizaare. Basically it wouldnt power up at all and wouldnt charge. so i took footage of that and sent it, they then said they were on a chinese new year holiday for two weeks, so i waited, at the end of their "break" i emailed again. They simply totally ignore me now, no reply, no response and i ended up stripping the scooter down myself and diagnosing the control unit had blown. Now they will supply me with a new control unit when i order it off thier website which ive had to buy out of my own pocket at a cost of £130 and fit myself. But my scooter was only ten months old and had covered just 55 miles, all dry, i put it away in my garage after using it and it was fine, i suspect it has blown whilst on charge. Now these things happen, but the only way to get it fixied is if it was fixed - by me. Because the "support" from Kugoo, even the .UK website just isnt there, its non existent and whislt you can buy spares and have them delivered within a couple of weeks there is no support at all, they basically ignore you until you give up. Id never ever buy another Kugoo product, id rather walk out of principle. The scooter itself is priced reaosnably and wehn it works it works well, but the whole Kugoo experience has left a sour tase in my mouth and im not wonderign when itll blow the control unit again. Ive learned cheap is expensive
No. Vsett is faster in acceleration and power is higher. Does not make sense to do it. But, biggest problem is that this Vsett 10+ in the video was pimped with 2 X custom controllers that are much above factory specs so it would not be even close to fair fight. I think insight of construction between those two is pretty valuable information.
@@EvNerds yes I know that it does not make sense, but only so that people have a view of what is the difference, because they say that G3Pro is a beast as I start the wheel pulls out:)
@@komandoskom502 Well, i tried to make all clear in the video. I did not have anybody around with regular Vsett at the time of making the video. G3 Pro is for wide escooter audience looking for good power and nice 10 inch escooter with good quality IMHO. 10+ is tire burner. If i could choose, i would put Vsett controllers inside G3 Pro. I like the constructuon better, and shocks. Also love the fact that G3 Pro does not use Vsett fodling handlebar.
I know they are basically the same scooter but is there much difference between vlaken and kugoo g3 pro. I know they list different powers but is this actually the case or just one listing peak motor and other listing what the motors are actually rated for. Also is there much of a different made by the difference in batterys between the two?
From what i understand, differences are in listing power/peak. Powerwise they are the same. Battery that Vlaken has is from Thinkedpow battery company and i never opened Kugoo version to know what they use. This one is very good! Not big voltage sag, regulary works the same from day 1.
Hello, thank you very much for the video, I wanted to ask a question, I need to know the space available to possibly make a battery with more autonomy, more amps, height, width and depth, I would be very grateful if you can give me information, and if there is a model in 60 Votes, thank you very much for the information and the video.
I do not have an escooter with me now, but with 21700 cells and even the same 18650 cells i think you could pack at least 28 Ah inside. The escooter has more or same space then Vsett 10+, and Vsett 10+ has 60V 28 Ah version. I did not see Vlaken offer 60V. Maybe you can write to them and ask. Thanks for comment, i hope i helped a bit⚡💪.
Are you sure Roadrunner is part of the same company?? I get that the frames are the same but Roadrunner clearly try to distance themselves from the cheaper versions sold on AliExpress etc. RS5 has a 30amp controller, Faster top speed ,NUTT Brakes , Tubeless tires & updated controls. Roadrunner obviously listens to their customers & you can see that in the newer RS5 MAX with the 32AH LG Battery , new door lock, tidier cable set up, throttle , mode/light/horn control & looks way better in Blue . I bought the Kukirin G3Pro last September & honestly wish I’d paid the extra $1000 for the RS5 Max , I’ve had lots of problems with my G3 Pro & Kukirin customer service isn’t efficient at all ….expect to wait for parts 😳🛴💨
Hy dude⚡ Vlaken is the factory. Vlaken customers like companies mentioned choose their parts, battery, controllers or even do extra r&d like RS5 company and improve the product. So it is not like you can get the same thing when two escooters look the same and come from same factory. Kugoo is pretty simmiliar, and the USA based company has massive improvment of original product for those that put "extreme high end features" as the most important benefit of escooter. So these are two different things. The factory & the customer.
@@EvNerds thanks 👍🏼 I’ve just had a really bad experience with Kukirin Canada & Kugoo USA got involved as well, my controller was faulty straight out the box E006 fault & it took 5 months & 2 wrong controllers sent to get the correct one, my charger was also faulty & they kept sending me the price of a new controller & dismissing my issue until the charger basically would only give a maximum of 51.3V output so I was left without a scooter for months due to incompetence. My battery sags really bad & most I’ve managed is 40km range at mode1 flat road etc nowhere near the 80km advertised. I’ll probably spend more upgrading this with scooter with parts from Roadrunner RS5 MAX than if I just paid the extra for what looks the best 52V version of this scooter, I really like the fine details that Roadrunner puts into their videos 🛴 🔥
@@aptrm80 Sag on this escooter is normal. These are not LG cells, and lots of power is drawn. Well, advertised range is wrong for sure. Sorry about troubles you had, this is 2 day fix and diagnostic. Anyways, wish you lots of KMs whatever you drive
Probably for speeds above 60 Km/h. for your version. The one i have has lower speed and zero wobbling; it would be a waist of money if this one had a damper.
@@EvNerds The RS5 2.0 has a newer 30 amp controller that is filled with resin to give it military level vibration/moisture/heat resistance (it is impossible to replace a blown mosfet though with the solid internals), the motors retain the same wattage but are wired different to work with the new controller, the light controls are updated to a newer switch design, the throttle is updated to an ATV style thumb throttle and the tires are tubeless with one piece rims, an LG 28AH battery is an option for the RS5 as well.
Yeah I have the Roadrunner RS5+ 2.0 very similar but my Roadrunner handle bar controls are much better. Has 28ah battery removable battery. Roadrunner has been using this same platform for a couple years now. Also there’s another brand that uses this same platform they offer a seat that bolts onto where you would put your one back foot on while standing and riding. I’d like to find it again and get it and see how it would feel to ride it while sitting. Also I’d really like for them to come out with a better front headlight. It’s bright but pretty narrow light beam so I had to add a second headlight mounted on the handle bar.
@@giantstorm3717 No, not from the company, but if you know enough; you can choose other controller, pair them with exisiting hardware etc.. With so many options for escooters on the market today; i would advice you to just get a stronger scooter in start if that is the goal.
Isnt this also the Kugookirin G3? Lol Anyways tho says has dual 1200 watts hows the acceleration compared to the vsett10+ does it feel about the same or vsett10+ pulls more on torque?. You be surprised too like that vsett10+ its sturdy at 50 mph i never had to put a steering dampener.
Yes thats what i am confirming in this review. I have over 1000 KMs on Vsett. It does not need dumper, but G3 is much more reliable on higher speeds and less bouncy. I do not know how else to explain; it is just better. Even with damper, G3 feels better; at least to me.
Flat? You can change flat at any store that sells escooters. Same tires are on Kugoo, Vlaken and Roadrunner version. Customer service highly depends on place where you bought it. So, i suggest buying local. And flat is usually not considered warranty. For warranty, do check all terms before buying ofcourse. In my country i have 5 stores at least where i can change any escooter tire.
Arvala M11 if you want edge performance and newest market tech like Arvala BLE app with SMART BMS. G3 pro if you want the best budget 10 inch dual motor escooter out there without folding, motor, controller, or handlebar problems! M11 acceleration and speed beats G3 PRO. However, G3 PRO is very well built and uses Thinkedpow battery - well known battery manufacturer. So ... Whats your game? Best performance and higher price, or Top of the line dual motor escooter with average performance and probably the best buy price?
Usually sinewave controller based escooters are pretty quite. Both versions i tried run the same. Since G3 PROs are not top of the escooter line performance where sinewaves really shine - i did not check. I will be posting an article about G3 PRO in a week; i will check this and get back to you. Cool?
6:43 the two scooters side by side the scooter on the right has a bag attached to what looks like mini handle bars. I was asking is that assessory bars?
@@Jahmall841 Forgot about that scene. This is a custom Vsett from a Guy in Croatia. I think he retrofitted Xiaomi Peg accesorie for the kids. This is aliexpress item sold by one of the stores in Croatia. I do not know exact model.
VLAKEN G3 PRO was made by www.youtube.com/@titanunigogo5295
This scooter was a really nice surprise with performance, looks and quality
The G3 Pro has a 23.2AH battery while in this video when you opened the deck, the battery said 52V 20AH, how is this possible?
This is Vlaken G3 PRO version. Vlaken version is the same escooter with different battery options
Now go back to M10 Review. Awesome review!
All right, all right .soon enough. One or two more days... Promise
And another thing is the prices here in New Zealand are over the top for these type of scooters 4k +😭😭our dollar is so weak 😭😭
There are two versions of battery for Hero. Lower capacity maybe? All the luck on getting good deals for these scooters
@@EvNerds awesome thanks for your reply I think I might just hold off and hopefully the hero x10 goes down in price.
Do you have any idea what the exact dimensions of bothe G3 Pro shocks are? 125mm or 165 or something else?
How to unlock the battery combination lock without knowing the code?
Hay man, if you did not change it, its 000....
what helmet is that? nice review btw
Thanks. Bought used one, not really sure.
Hello
Is there a way to speed limit this scooter using the famous grey cable ? Not the p7 speed settings, it affect only the rear motor...
Thank you
I was not aware to be honest that only rear motor is affected by P settings limit. Are you sure about that? Thats not an usual practice in escooter controller making. ? But to answer, i do not know of any other way and i am pretty sure max power is the speed we got in the test.
Awesome cheers for the review would you prefer this or the hero x10 I'm pushing more for the hero,but this is cheaper.
This is a hard one. X10 is like ninja due to suspension! This one does not have suspension that makes you feel like it is ready for anything. Hero has more power and larger battery. However, g3 pro is very good. It is just a dollar question actually. You get alot for little from G3 PRO.
i have had nothing but issues with mine, the controller burnt out after just 55 miles. Whilst i got a repsonce initially form Kugoo support they then asked me to send videos and simply totally ignoed subsequent emails. I had to buy a new controller to get it going again - id never ever buy another kugoo product the support is non existent.
Sorry to hear that, the one i reviewed is still going well, has around 3800 Km and friend is using it every day for job to home commute. While the performance of Vlaken and Kugoo are the same, battery brand and capacity are different. As for the warranty etc.. , Vlaken is the actual factory for Kugoo, and Kugoo service for customers are their own. I do not know anybody at Kugoo, but i would not let them go so easy if i had problem. It is unfair if you proven your problem with video to pay anything. One thing is to pay for part to be shipped, another is to pay for parts that were faulty. Anyways, i hope your new controller keeps on going for miles..
@@EvNerds there is no support at all be warned, if it goes wrong your on your own buddy. Initially i emailed them and was asked for a "video of the issue", which i found bizaare.
Basically it wouldnt power up at all and wouldnt charge. so i took footage of that and sent it, they then said they were on a chinese new year holiday for two weeks, so i waited, at the end of their "break" i emailed again.
They simply totally ignore me now, no reply, no response and i ended up stripping the scooter down myself and diagnosing the control unit had blown.
Now they will supply me with a new control unit when i order it off thier website which ive had to buy out of my own pocket at a cost of £130 and fit myself.
But my scooter was only ten months old and had covered just 55 miles, all dry, i put it away in my garage after using it and it was fine, i suspect it has blown whilst on charge.
Now these things happen, but the only way to get it fixied is if it was fixed - by me.
Because the "support" from Kugoo, even the .UK website just isnt there, its non existent and whislt you can buy spares and have them delivered within a couple of weeks there is no support at all, they basically ignore you until you give up.
Id never ever buy another Kugoo product, id rather walk out of principle.
The scooter itself is priced reaosnably and wehn it works it works well, but the whole Kugoo experience has left a sour tase in my mouth and im not wonderign when itll blow the control unit again.
Ive learned cheap is expensive
BSETT 9 1/2 -
There was no race between them
No. Vsett is faster in acceleration and power is higher. Does not make sense to do it. But, biggest problem is that this Vsett 10+ in the video was pimped with 2 X custom controllers that are much above factory specs so it would not be even close to fair fight. I think insight of construction between those two is pretty valuable information.
@@EvNerds yes I know that it does not make sense, but only so that people have a view of what is the difference, because they say that G3Pro is a beast as I start the wheel pulls out:)
@@komandoskom502 Well, i tried to make all clear in the video. I did not have anybody around with regular Vsett at the time of making the video. G3 Pro is for wide escooter audience looking for good power and nice 10 inch escooter with good quality IMHO. 10+ is tire burner. If i could choose, i would put Vsett controllers inside G3 Pro. I like the constructuon better, and shocks. Also love the fact that G3 Pro does not use Vsett fodling handlebar.
@@EvNerds How much width do both handlebars have?? because I on Monday I will have us klime is 69cm
@@komandoskom502 I did not understand, can you rephrase?
Grea video!
Are parts availabe to but for repair, I do my own work
Yes, no worries; Kugoo, Vlaken parts ... all fit this escooter.
I know they are basically the same scooter but is there much difference between vlaken and kugoo g3 pro.
I know they list different powers but is this actually the case or just one listing peak motor and other listing what the motors are actually rated for.
Also is there much of a different made by the difference in batterys between the two?
From what i understand, differences are in listing power/peak. Powerwise they are the same. Battery that Vlaken has is from Thinkedpow battery company and i never opened Kugoo version to know what they use. This one is very good! Not big voltage sag, regulary works the same from day 1.
Capacity of battery is different. In our review, we give you a full scope on range and comparisson with populat Vsett 10+ model too.
ahahahaha this is a turbo scooter because the regular g3 is BRUTAL FAST AND FLEXIBLE
Ehat scooter had the fastest acceleration and power? It is a difference between them
Save 200 & buy the Ousom Gallop,exact same scooter ,reviews here on youtube
@@joehiatt1992 Link good review here so people can see it. Thanks
Hello, thank you very much for the video, I wanted to ask a question, I need to know the space available to possibly make a battery with more autonomy, more amps, height, width and depth, I would be very grateful if you can give me information, and if there is a model in 60 Votes, thank you very much for the information and the video.
I do not have an escooter with me now, but with 21700 cells and even the same 18650 cells i think you could pack at least 28 Ah inside. The escooter has more or same space then Vsett 10+, and Vsett 10+ has 60V 28 Ah version. I did not see Vlaken offer 60V. Maybe you can write to them and ask. Thanks for comment, i hope i helped a bit⚡💪.
If you really, really need dimensions of battery case - give me a day or two, i will get it for you.
36 X 17 x 7,5 CM - Current battery dimensions and actually, the maximum space
Are you sure Roadrunner is part of the same company?? I get that the frames are the same but Roadrunner clearly try to distance themselves from the cheaper versions sold on AliExpress etc. RS5 has a 30amp controller, Faster top speed ,NUTT Brakes , Tubeless tires & updated controls. Roadrunner obviously listens to their customers & you can see that in the newer RS5 MAX with the 32AH LG Battery , new door lock, tidier cable set up, throttle , mode/light/horn control & looks way better in Blue .
I bought the Kukirin G3Pro last September & honestly wish I’d paid the extra $1000 for the RS5 Max , I’ve had lots of problems with my G3 Pro & Kukirin customer service isn’t efficient at all ….expect to wait for parts 😳🛴💨
Hy dude⚡ Vlaken is the factory. Vlaken customers like companies mentioned choose their parts, battery, controllers or even do extra r&d like RS5 company and improve the product. So it is not like you can get the same thing when two escooters look the same and come from same factory. Kugoo is pretty simmiliar, and the USA based company has massive improvment of original product for those that put "extreme high end features" as the most important benefit of escooter. So these are two different things. The factory & the customer.
@@EvNerds thanks 👍🏼 I’ve just had a really bad experience with Kukirin Canada & Kugoo USA got involved as well, my controller was faulty straight out the box E006 fault & it took 5 months & 2 wrong controllers sent to get the correct one, my charger was also faulty & they kept sending me the price of a new controller & dismissing my issue until the charger basically would only give a maximum of 51.3V output so I was left without a scooter for months due to incompetence. My battery sags really bad & most I’ve managed is 40km range at mode1 flat road etc nowhere near the 80km advertised.
I’ll probably spend more upgrading this with scooter with parts from Roadrunner RS5 MAX than if I just paid the extra for what looks the best 52V version of this scooter, I really like the fine details that Roadrunner puts into their videos 🛴 🔥
@@aptrm80 Sag on this escooter is normal. These are not LG cells, and lots of power is drawn. Well, advertised range is wrong for sure. Sorry about troubles you had, this is 2 day fix and diagnostic. Anyways, wish you lots of KMs whatever you drive
Excellent review and comparison! Thank you for sharing you experience!
❤️ Thank you for watching and comment. Hope to see you again on my channel!
Also the steering stabilizer is a definite must for this platform
Probably for speeds above 60 Km/h. for your version. The one i have has lower speed and zero wobbling; it would be a waist of money if this one had a damper.
I have rs5 2.0 its just like this but bkue and has uodated throttle and other buttons better. Maybe few other things.
Oh thanks, can you write down in details what is different? I want people who watch this review to know the differences? Pretty please 😁
@@EvNerds The RS5 2.0 has a newer 30 amp controller that is filled with resin to give it military level vibration/moisture/heat resistance (it is impossible to replace a blown mosfet though with the solid internals), the motors retain the same wattage but are wired different to work with the new controller, the light controls are updated to a newer switch design, the throttle is updated to an ATV style thumb throttle and the tires are tubeless with one piece rims, an LG 28AH battery is an option for the RS5 as well.
@@Bobbrians That sounds like a great upgrade. Rs 5.0 is very relevant to this review and your explanation is great adition to comment section.
Yeah I have the Roadrunner RS5+ 2.0 very similar but my Roadrunner handle bar controls are much better. Has 28ah battery removable battery. Roadrunner has been using this same platform for a couple years now. Also there’s another brand that uses this same platform they offer a seat that bolts onto where you would put your one back foot on while standing and riding. I’d like to find it again and get it and see how it would feel to ride it while sitting. Also I’d really like for them to come out with a better front headlight. It’s bright but pretty narrow light beam so I had to add a second headlight mounted on the handle bar.
Do you make the g3 pro faster?
Which option there are to make it more tourqe and higher top speed?
I just used P-settings highest values. You know how to access those ?
@@EvNerds yeah i know the hidden option, but is there a aftermarket support for hardware tuning to make more power?
@@giantstorm3717 No, not from the company, but if you know enough; you can choose other controller, pair them with exisiting hardware etc.. With so many options for escooters on the market today; i would advice you to just get a stronger scooter in start if that is the goal.
@@EvNerds ok thanks for the tips💪
What brand of helmet is the reviewer using? Thanks in advance.
Isnt this also the Kugookirin G3? Lol
Anyways tho says has dual 1200 watts hows the acceleration compared to the vsett10+ does it feel about the same or vsett10+ pulls more on torque?.
You be surprised too like that vsett10+ its sturdy at 50 mph i never had to put a steering dampener.
Yes thats what i am confirming in this review. I have over 1000 KMs on Vsett. It does not need dumper, but G3 is much more reliable on higher speeds and less bouncy. I do not know how else to explain; it is just better. Even with damper, G3 feels better; at least to me.
Oh okay gotcha 👍
What comparing it to roadrunner rs5..how about customer service with g3 pro..what if I get a flat
Flat? You can change flat at any store that sells escooters. Same tires are on Kugoo, Vlaken and Roadrunner version. Customer service highly depends on place where you bought it. So, i suggest buying local. And flat is usually not considered warranty. For warranty, do check all terms before buying ofcourse. In my country i have 5 stores at least where i can change any escooter tire.
Arvala m11 or g3 pro?
Arvala M11 if you want edge performance and newest market tech like Arvala BLE app with SMART BMS. G3 pro if you want the best budget 10 inch dual motor escooter out there without folding, motor, controller, or handlebar problems! M11 acceleration and speed beats G3 PRO. However, G3 PRO is very well built and uses Thinkedpow battery - well known battery manufacturer. So ... Whats your game? Best performance and higher price, or Top of the line dual motor escooter with average performance and probably the best buy price?
@@EvNerds m11! Thanks for response!
@@Frankovvski Welcome dude.
I have it too. I can go only 25km on full charge with speed mode 1 and single motor. Any idea how to get longer range? :(
Are you kidding me? What version you have? What is the battery capacity?
40 Km at least is the range you have to have if driving around 35-40 Km/h average
Does this have sine wave controllers like the kukirin g3 pro
Usually sinewave controller based escooters are pretty quite. Both versions i tried run the same. Since G3 PROs are not top of the escooter line performance where sinewaves really shine - i did not check. I will be posting an article about G3 PRO in a week; i will check this and get back to you. Cool?
Checked. Sinewave is inside
Where did you get the pegs on the second scooter? Looks like mini handles to hold on too next to the scooter bag.
Can you give me minutes and seconds for this. I really do not know where you saw this in my video?
6:43 the two scooters side by side the scooter on the right has a bag attached to what looks like mini handle bars. I was asking is that assessory bars?
@@Jahmall841 Forgot about that scene. This is a custom Vsett from a Guy in Croatia. I think he retrofitted Xiaomi Peg accesorie for the kids. This is aliexpress item sold by one of the stores in Croatia. I do not know exact model.
@@EvNerds thanks 😊
@@Jahmall841 Thank you for watching my videos. Keep safe, wear a Helmet!