The reason people pay tax on their private pension is because they dont pay tax on it when it is removed from their wages. You dont pay tax on the state pension as the money taken for that is done after you have already paid tax.
@@LesleyWright-g5v All income has to have tax paid on it. By paying it when you receive the pension rather than before you put the money aside means there is more in the pot to invest over the years so its actually beneficial so yes it is all right
Given she lives in No 11, a government building, I wonder if she has to pay any heating costs at all. Not that she needs any. She is clearly an Ice maiden with a heart of cold stone.
@@terrytunney4089 exactly. my Labour MP ( who lives 50 miles from constituency he supposedly represents, with his same-sex partner ) is never seen, even at election time. they take votes for granted..... ppl should remember the old expenses scandal where MPS were claiming over £100k a year!
If you both receive full state pension no matter if you have no private pension or savings you can't receive pension credit, my friend is better off because she didn't work so her pension is made up with pension credit her husband received full state pension, take in account they receive rate rebate water rebate cost of living payment free dentist and winter heating allowance make me wonder why I worked we are only £50 short , we have never ever been in a benefit and now can't even get a bit of help to keep warm my husband worked 51 years in the cold now he will sit in the cold can't afford to heat our old house,may be we would be better living in a hotel having everything paid for
But Labour do this every time.They piss & moan before every election and promise the earth. So then gullible people vote for them and they can then blame their tax increases on the party who just lost. History shows they do this every time without fail and yet people fall for it again and again. Your fuel is about to go up too as well as heating. Strap yourself in for their budget cos' they have only just begun.
We need a strong opposition leader to call a Vote of No Confidence in the Government just as Maggie Thatcher did in 1979 when she called the vote against Jim Callaghan's Labour Govt. She only won that by one vote but it was enough to call a General Election which she then won outright. Right now we don't even have an opposition party let alone a strong leader.
@@richessery8475a high percentage of pensioners have no other income but state pension and no means of adding to that income. Not all qualify for pension credit even although they already struggle to make ends meet. Their health will deteriorate because they can't afford heating. It's a disgraceful way to treat our elderly who have contributed so much to society. Reeves needs to read the room and see what a poor decision she's made.
I agree, but we will find that Reeves and Starmer will both be protected by law from either murder or manslaughter, as it will not be done directly by their own hand, only as a result of their policy, which itself should be unlawful but of course is not. There will be no triple lock once the rate of inflation rises again, nor will there be free medication for very much longer either. As a result, the NHS will be unable to cope with the amount of seriously ill and dying elderly. Does the UK begin to remind us of Putin's Russia by any chance?
Everything about this Labour Government sucks, it seems everyone down and including Starmer are just not up to the job. We need a nationwide vote of no confidence in them.
FILLING POT HOLES IN MALAYSIA IS A BIGGER PRIORITY, THAN PUTTING THE COUNTRY FIRST . TWO TEIR STARMER IS A DANGEROUS MEGLAMANIAC . HE NEEDS REMOVING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BEFORE THE COUNTRY BORROWS MORE MONEY IN HIS FIRST 50 DAYS BRINGING US CLOSER TO BANKRUPTCY.
Pensioners will suffer but they have to fund the housing / heating of our friends arriving daily from France and you can't expect over paid useless Politicians to give up there Fuel allowance
I do not know if I will survive the winter. My occupational pension is tiny. Not eligble for pension credit!!!! Labour is the Nasty Party! What are Labour going to take from us elderly Next?!!!? Pre 9 am Freedom pass mon-Fri was taken! Council tax doubled! Now winter fuel payment taken!!!! Labour has it in for Pensioners!!!
You must prepare now, do not get sick, look after your health, get extra warm clothes and blankets, exercise if you can and most importantly if you can then find a support network. I work in care and I can tell you now I see this far too much already. You must prepare and have a plan. Don't be afraid to ask for help even from your neighbours as believe it or not there are some true human beings out there who don't like to see people suffer. Unfortunately, our government ain't about that.
@taffyterrier But we can keep on and on and on and on and on and on. Especially the older ladies. We have fought all our lives for fairness, and we have had some significant victories by keeping on and on and on............forever.
Why is the old age pension less than the living wage, a great question for Labour as every one has to face the same livings costs unless the are paid an MP's salary and expences!!!
What Reeves seems to forget is pensioners had a £600 help package last year because of the cost of living crisis, this year many will get nothing in the way of help and the energy price cap is rising by 10% in October 2024. There is a very distinct possibility of the old perishing from hyperthermia this coming winter.
She is fully aware as Sue Gray had all that information when she left the civil service on her gold plated pension to run the Labour Party with her labour mp son. Oops, I mean become Starmers Dominic Cummings.
Not even allowed our wood burning stoves..Kind neighbours have given loads of wood to us. What do we do? Well personally I will burn the wood and risk my impeding imprisonment!
You can't think Starmer will take any responsibility for any hardships. He will blame the last Government for this winter and he will continue all the way to next election blaming everybody but his sorry arse.
How did we do that. I'm over 90, savings don't last and you dont know the terrible hardships that come when you cant help yourself through frailty. Have I lived too long for the State's convenience? and yours?.@@Craig121000
@Craig121000 it is or they would of been on tv by now calling out their party for doing it. Labour have had some good people in the past but this party is a complete fuck up. Out of their depth. Imagine retards voting for Keir, a man who wouldn't accept the biggest vote in our countries history, a man who went on tv and said women can have a penis, backed up by lammy who said men can grow a cervix. The party is rammed full with weirdo's like that. It's going to be funny watching them fail. Think how popular they are going to be once pensioners start dying of cold this winter and social homes are filled with dinghy scroungers, infront of 1000s and 1000s of uk citizens who have already been on a waiting list for years. I have voted Labour in the past but this freak show Labour clown party are not fit to run a bath nevermind the country.
And it's only a few months ago that Starmer expressed his sadness and horror about an elderly lady who stayed in bed until lunchtime because she couldnt afford to heat the house. Reeves obviously missed that interview.
I thought Tony Blair government was horrendous but this one is pure evil towards the pensioners of this country she needs to have a hard look in the mirror
People already die from hypothermia in this " rich" country. Why should pensioners be made to beg for a little bit of money to help them survive. They may be unable to keep working (why should they have to work until death?). There are enough people to do their jobs and keep the economy and productions ticking along. Remember age comes to us all
And all those who agree with them taking it from us you will be a pensioner one day sooner than you think . Let's see if you feel the same then . Karma .
The cut of the winter fuel allowance for Pensions is mean and spiteful, it’s a sign of things to come from this Gov, god help us in 5 years time, assuming the country does not go in to utter chaos before hand. Stuff Labour
I will point out, some pensioners did vote for this party and are now moaning. You have to be predisposed to having your head unfortunately up your own backside to vote Labour. Reformuk gave everyone who actually cared about Britain a voice and a party to vote for. Would they had been perfect? Nope but much better than the rot Labour is about to inflict on Britain. I give it under 2 years before they collapse and the IMF steps in.
Govt pension is less than half the national living wage and many pensioners spend their days confined to their homes and so need extra heating and will be hit with the double-whammy of no winter fuel payment and increased energy costs.
UK government red or blue don't care a fuk for oaps look after the old folks in their twilight year it's the absolute least a caring society should expect😂
The level of contempt the Labour Party MPs have for the elderly & children with the 2 child policy is appalling but at least now we know. Starmer is simply appalling
Don't forget they are going for the disabled, vulnerable with complex needs and unpaid Carers (who save the Government millions and receive £81.00 for 24/7 which if they are on UC is deducted).No social care. No support. Social care has been cut. They will be seriously affected also, especially those who have to plug medical equipment in to stay alive.
"Who shall we hit first,? "Oh, I know, all those decent and law abiding pensioners, who happily paid their taxes and national insurance contributions over their working lifetimes, ideal!" "Get that through and I'll be up for a Damehood". "By the way, did you manage to find that expenses claim form I'd misplaced, for the new furniture arriving at No.11 in the morning?.... Bl**dy disgraceful 😡
When you think of all those too idle to work to pay their own rent and claim benefits for it instead, that’s why our heating allowance has been scraped. The benefits system needs urgent attention, you never know it might even slow the boats down.
Filling a supposed financial black hole is not helped by the increased union wages and the borrowing. Borrowing has to be paid back by big interest payments. Giving money to wealth countries like CCP is a joke. Who gives us money? Oh I forgot it’s the taxpayers who Labour are alienating very quickly.
And about 12 billion foreign aid to countries that don't need it and now another 10 billion for climate aid to other countries Britain must be doing fine if we can afford all that ha ha
Yes people will die because of this lying low down government.... but, will they care.... not on your life, they're getting their second home heating allowance....😡😡😡 Get them out !!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
IMAGINE BEING IN YOUR EIGHTIES ALONE AND FRAIL WITH NO HEATING BECAUSE YOU DARE NOT PUT IT ON BECAUSE YOU JUST CANT AFFORD TO,, SITTING WITH BLANKETS ACROSS YOUR LAP OR EVEN STAYING IN BED TO JUST KEEP WARM,,, I BELIEVE THIS GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE TAKEN TO TASK FOR EVERY SINGLE DEATH CAUSED BY CUTTING FUEL ALLOWANCE,, JUST TO SUBSIDISE THE IMMIGRANTS,, TOTALLY TOTALLY WRONG ON EVERY LEVEL,,
I hope public have realised that they have made a big mistake bye voting for Labour Party.I will asked public to B prepared for more surprises in coming months.I think this Govt. is not fit to run the country and sooner the people realised and vote for no confidence and get rid of this Govt.the sooner the better.Assylum seekers are getting more money in benefits and free housing and don't have to pay for anything and are living the life of luxiurs with out working.Where as tax payers are struggling to make the ends meet.Pensioners are living the of dogs worst than people in third world country.Shame on this Govt. who ignores their own people.👍👍👍👍👍😀😀😀😀😆😆😆😆🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Increase the cut off point where pensioners recieve benefits....everything has gone up over last few year ...they are paying doctors and nurses wich i agree with ...but i think train drivers where already paid very well for a 4 day week....modern trains are partly automated already....drivers are mainly there for safty reasons...i think it would be better to fully automate the trains ..like Japan Like to see any MP live on a single person pension...pay for council rate ..food ..utility bills ...plus labour are talking about taxing drivers by the mile ..if you live in the countryside you have no choice but use a car ..there are no good bus services ...does labour want everyone to live in cities....that way no food will be grown
I agree it was silly to give the winter fuel payment to millionaires and there should be a cap but not as low as she has put it. Pension credit is paid to people who dont get the full state pension to bring them up to the same level of income and they get the payment, yet the people who have worked all their lives so get the full pension (and no more) are on the same income but dont get the payment!,
no body will die because of the 300 pound winter fuel cut but 10 million will struggle to pay there bill,but they find money for train drivers ,doctors and the rest will follow,the payment should have been put on top off the pension.
Some policies have a depopulation richter scale value - and the scale of this policy? Targeting a particular voter population is icing on the green depopulation cake.
One of the eligible groups for claiming of winter fuel payments is: If you live in a care home You can get a Winter Fuel Payment if: you get certain benefits and are eligible you lived in a care home for less than 13 weeks including the week of 16 to 22 September 2024 Who will benefit from this, the care home owners will of course, I hope they invest it back into heat and light for the residents not into their mansions and luxury motor vehicles.
I worked hard all my life and only managed to pay into a small work pension in the last years before retirement. I get the basic state pension plus a small work pension and am always just above the limit for any benefits, therefore this stopping winter fuel payment is a nightmare, stop and think again. At least pay everyone the new state pension, that may help!!! Last time I vote Labour.
How about using the Foreign Aid budget for illegals, they are foreign and being aided. then the amount given to foreign countries would then be lowered.
Over 150,000 children in England are homeless (MHCLG). Nearly 5,000 people died in the UK last winter due to living in cold and damp homes (End Fuel Poverty Coalition). Pensioners freezing to death while illegal immigrants enjoy luxury hotel's.
I'm sure all of us pensioners could turn up at council offices, court viewing areas, doctors waiting rooms and AandE areas and even illegal migrant hotels, as I am sure the heating thermostats will be turned up
This government is proving that there are far more important things in their agenda than our fuel costs. So when he criticized the last government for permitting these price increase, he has just accepted them in the same way. Perhaps he should take a look at other things to stop paying and make a comparison, old age pension 106 pounds, weekly allowance for immigrants or refugees living here (whom have never paid a penny towards same) 250 pounds, British old age pensioners weekly spouse allowance 25 pounds, illegal immigrants living in Britain spouse allowance 250 pounds. British old age pensioners hardship allowance 0.00 ZERO, illegal immigrants living in Britain allowance 100 pounds, a British old age pensioners total benefit 6,000.00 pounds and NOW no Winter fuel allowance thanks to this robbing lot, total ILLEGAL immigrant living in OUR county 29,900pounds. I cannot verify that these figures are 100% correct but in my investigation into where our tax goes they are somewhere near.
As a recent pensioner who must find new work in order to afford a lifestyle beyond existence, I sympathise with those pensioners who will miss the extra winter allowance, but the fact that many will die is of no concern to the Govt, after all for every pensioner who moves on that’s one less pension to pay, and nonGovt shows any concern for the death of its citizens unless it’s newsworthy, hence the homeless who die, the hundreds murdered on the streets by knife wielding criminals, or all the drug deaths, and the ultimate sign that death is only a concern if there’s a photo opportunity is the constant claim around the numbers of Palestinian child deaths due to the conflict in Gaza, if we accept that since the fighting started 30000 children have been killed and many of those deaths could have been prevented, where is the concern that more children have died across the World over the same period many of whom could have been saved, but who cares about children starving in Countries who spend huge amounts on their Armed Forces, no photo op there.
Gas and electricity costs will be approx 15% of a pensioners income. This winter fuel cut should not be allowed to happen.
Only rich pensioners should be denied WFA.
They are ten times worse than Tories.
HOW LOW CAN YOU GO
Attacking the Pensioners who are now paying TAX on their Pension.
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING
The reason people pay tax on their private pension is because they dont pay tax on it when it is removed from their wages. You dont pay tax on the state pension as the money taken for that is done after you have already paid tax.
@@thetimeisnow6822 make sure you sign the ageuk petition re fuel allowance
@@thetimeisnow6822 and have contributed for all their working years 50+ for most!!
@@jackiegould1569 that’s alright then!!!!
@@LesleyWright-g5v All income has to have tax paid on it. By paying it when you receive the pension rather than before you put the money aside means there is more in the pot to invest over the years so its actually beneficial so yes it is all right
Someone should start a petition to abolish the MP’s £3,500 Winter heating allowance.
It's heartless 😢
It’s cowardice
@@angieogden2308 totally !!
Rachel will be fine with her £167,000 job plus pension
I'll be more than okay, too. 😁
@Seagull-sq4wh.....and her MP,,s heating allowance .....(over £3000 per year) ..........don,t forget that........
Given she lives in No 11, a government building, I wonder if she has to pay any heating costs at all. Not that she needs any. She is clearly an Ice maiden with a heart of cold stone.
@@grumpyoldman-uk .....all mp.s can claim over £3000 per year where ever they live ...
Plus expenses.😡
If fuel payment means tested why are mps still getting it not even pensioners
MPs are privileged.
@@terrytunney4089 exactly. my Labour MP ( who lives 50 miles from constituency he supposedly represents, with his same-sex partner ) is never seen, even at election time. they take votes for granted..... ppl should remember the old expenses scandal where MPS were claiming over £100k a year!
If you both receive full state pension no matter if you have no private pension or savings you can't receive pension credit, my friend is better off because she didn't work so her pension is made up with pension credit her husband received full state pension, take in account they receive rate rebate water rebate cost of living payment free dentist and winter heating allowance make me wonder why I worked we are only £50 short , we have never ever been in a benefit and now can't even get a bit of help to keep warm my husband worked 51 years in the cold now he will sit in the cold can't afford to heat our old house,may be we would be better living in a hotel having everything paid for
@@live.co.uk1955 Reeves has so much to answer for.
@@pearldoyle4153 bunch of thieves that’s why
Let's all hope Labour don't last the full term and another election sooner than later.
But Labour do this every time.They piss & moan before every election and promise the earth.
So then gullible people vote for them and they can then blame their tax increases on the party
who just lost. History shows they do this every time without fail and yet people fall for it again
and again. Your fuel is about to go up too as well as heating.
Strap yourself in for their budget cos' they have only just begun.
Yes sooner they are out. Labour will not be forgotten for this, they are finished
We need a strong opposition leader to call a Vote of No Confidence in the Government just as Maggie Thatcher did in 1979 when she called the vote against Jim Callaghan's Labour Govt. She only won that by one vote but it was enough to call a General Election which she then won outright. Right now we don't even have an opposition party let alone a strong leader.
@@mda5003 Good idea, it could work.
So pensioners who have worked for the country are being treated as 2nd class citizens? SHAME ON YOU!!!!
2 tier Keir, 2 tier policing, 2 tier justice and 2 tier citizens.
When the first pensioner dies through lack of heat BOTH Starmer and Reeves should be charged with Manslaughter.
Was about to say exactly the same thing they should be charged .
johngreen8996 Why? None of the Tories including Lee Anderson were prosecuted when the Tories cut benefits. Utterly hypocritical.
@@richessery8475a high percentage of pensioners have no other income but state pension and no means of adding to that income. Not all qualify for pension credit even although they already struggle to make ends meet. Their health will deteriorate because they can't afford heating. It's a disgraceful way to treat our elderly who have contributed so much to society. Reeves needs to read the room and see what a poor decision she's made.
And all those who died under the Tories for lack of NHS facilities?
I agree, but we will find that Reeves and Starmer will both be protected by law from either murder or manslaughter, as it will not be done directly by their own hand, only as a result of their policy, which itself should be unlawful but of course is not. There will be no triple lock once the rate of inflation rises again, nor will there be free medication for very much longer either. As a result, the NHS will be unable to cope with the amount of seriously ill and dying elderly. Does the UK begin to remind us of Putin's Russia by any chance?
Watch Reeves and Starmer when they talk... Completely blank and emotionless behind the eyes
SHARK EYES🦈🦈
Sharks have more class
Yep robotic
They are heartless can't even call them human beings to do this to the oldest generation in our country
OAPs did not contribute sufficiently and continued to vote Tory and for Brexit - it is all their mess
@@derekr1113ABSOLUTE RUBBISH!! I'm a pensioner now DID YOU WORK 126 HRS A WEEK AND LIVE OFF 2 HRS SLEEP A NIGHT???
@@derekr1113 most pensioners I kknow including me don't vote tory
@@derekr1113 older people worked very hard from a younger age not our fault we didn't get paid enough to pay as much tax etc to make your life easier
@@derekr1113 moronic statement......
One simple way to save cash is to cut MPs expenses, second house heating it's a dam joke
AND they can vote for their own pay increase! 🤬
You'd be shutting the government down that way.
They should only get their wages that we pay .Most would love a job on their pay .
It is so sad that they have to target the elderly. We need to respect the elderly and praise them for their past contribution to society.
Everything about this Labour Government sucks, it seems everyone down and including Starmer are just not up to the job. We need a nationwide vote of no confidence in them.
You're wanting to replace Labour with the useless Reform.
Never gonna happen mate he's in for the long run atleast a decade of hard-core socialism we are well and truly fucked
I have being saying this as well !!!!!!!!!!!!!
FILLING POT HOLES IN MALAYSIA IS A BIGGER PRIORITY, THAN PUTTING THE COUNTRY FIRST . TWO TEIR STARMER IS A DANGEROUS MEGLAMANIAC . HE NEEDS REMOVING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BEFORE THE COUNTRY BORROWS MORE MONEY IN HIS FIRST 50 DAYS BRINGING US CLOSER TO BANKRUPTCY.
That's the plan, in order to bring in digital currency. Small things happen in the USA, Australia, etc.
I make you right ✅️
Close OUR BOARDERS 😮 NOT ROCKET SCIENCE IS IT ffs
I`ve just invented ` FLOATING BARBED WIRE `👍👍
Yes .I make you right..
Enemy's at the gates
Yer they can allow thousands of immigrants illegals to pile in WHOS paying for them
Pensioners will suffer but they have to fund the housing / heating of our friends arriving daily from France and you can't expect over paid useless Politicians to give up there Fuel allowance
But pensioners will remember this come next election time Labour will be begging for our votes
But more pensioner deaths due to the cold will reduce pension costs therefore making more available for our newly arrived friends.
You let the migrants in.
@@me38443 With “friends” like that ….
Being an OAP I spent my childhood growing up having ice on the inside of our windows, I never thought I would end my days doing the same. 😞
Me too!
Same here used to draw pictures in the ice
I do not know if I will survive the winter. My occupational pension is tiny. Not eligble for pension credit!!!!
Labour is the Nasty Party! What are
Labour going to take from us elderly
Next?!!!? Pre 9 am Freedom pass mon-Fri was taken! Council tax doubled! Now winter fuel payment taken!!!! Labour has it in for Pensioners!!!
You must prepare now, do not get sick, look after your health, get extra warm clothes and blankets, exercise if you can and most importantly if you can then find a support network. I work in care and I can tell you now I see this far too much already. You must prepare and have a plan. Don't be afraid to ask for help even from your neighbours as believe it or not there are some true human beings out there who don't like to see people suffer. Unfortunately, our government ain't about that.
England is a terrible terrible country to live so glad i left here in malta no council tax bins emptied eveeyday and 20quid for 6 months gas
I will never leave my country. I was born in it and I will die in it.
@@lukemurray4950 unfortunately it's the worst in the world my advice get out
@@bowjana8128 No. That's what they want. We will not be replaced.
@@bowjana8128 What a absolutely stupid comment! The Maltese are welcome to you, if you actually live there.
Its basically Cruelty because it’s causing stress amongst Pensioners especially the one’s on the border line of receiving this benefit.
It is easy to bully pensioners.
Pensioners can’t strike and hold the country to ransom.
No it’s not! We have quickly rumbled her. We are on her case.
Pensioners can’t strike.
@taffyterrier But we can keep on and on and on and on and on and on. Especially the older ladies. We have fought all our lives for fairness, and we have had some significant victories by keeping on and on and on............forever.
That is what Ms Thieves would like to think. Not so.
Why is the old age pension less than the living wage, a great question for Labour as every one has to face the same livings costs unless the are paid an MP's salary and expences!!!
What Reeves seems to forget is pensioners had a £600 help package last year because of the cost of living crisis, this year many will get nothing in the way of help and the energy price cap is rising by 10% in October 2024. There is a very distinct possibility of the old perishing from hyperthermia this coming winter.
She is fully aware as Sue Gray had all that information when she left the civil service on her gold plated pension to run the Labour Party with her labour mp son. Oops, I mean become Starmers Dominic Cummings.
Not even allowed our wood burning stoves..Kind neighbours have given loads of wood to us. What do we do?
Well personally I will burn the wood and risk my impeding imprisonment!
You can't think Starmer will take any responsibility for any hardships. He will blame the last Government for this winter and he
will continue all the way to next election blaming everybody but his sorry arse.
Over 3 thousand died last year with the fuel payment it will be terrible this year
@@pathopewell1814 At least you will have no bills!
Rachel the Reeper
Grim
The pensioners and the NHS are going to suffer this winter due to this nonsense, if the country earned more we could all share in the prosperity.
NHS doctors won’t be suffering.
Old people made themselves impoverished.
@@Craig121000 Explain please.
How did we do that. I'm over 90, savings don't last and you dont know the terrible hardships that come when you cant help yourself through frailty. Have I lived too long for the State's convenience? and yours?.@@Craig121000
@@Craig121000 Eh?
WTF is Reeves trying to prove?
Just following orders from Geneva.
That she needs a new hairdresser.
I knew her when she had nothing
@@JillGalloway-lg7wh She still has nothing between the ears,she is Starmer's lap dog.
She is overcompensating for the fact that she is as thick as 💩
This is the worst decision any Chancellor has made in all my 76 years on this earth.
When are you going to understand? THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.. they want the elderly GONE!
🎯
Soylent Green. (Look it up if you don't know but it was a film with Edward G Robinson and Charlton Heston).
@@mda5003 thanks...will have a look. Always told what is going to happen in tbe films
Pay rises for MPs should be frozen because they have all failed in their jobs
Just happy I never voted this shower
No I didn't either
I didn't either, have li ved with a labour government, Harold Wilson invitingly the union bosses to number ten for a fish and chip supper. 😢
I didn't vote Labour, however, I support what they're doing.
80% of the Country did not even vote Labour!
the old used to be respected now they are totally DISrespected,they are being swept under the carpet and nobody gives a toss whether they die or not.
The whole Labour party are ROTTEN to the core.
You know that's not true.
Has been since 1997😊
@Craig121000 it is or they would of been on tv by now calling out their party for doing it.
Labour have had some good people in the past but this party is a complete fuck up. Out of their depth. Imagine retards voting for Keir, a man who wouldn't accept the biggest vote in our countries history, a man who went on tv and said women can have a penis, backed up by lammy who said men can grow a cervix. The party is rammed full with weirdo's like that.
It's going to be funny watching them fail.
Think how popular they are going to be once pensioners start dying of cold this winter and social homes are filled with dinghy scroungers, infront of 1000s and 1000s of uk citizens who have already been on a waiting list for years.
I have voted Labour in the past but this freak show Labour clown party are not fit to run a bath nevermind the country.
It’s absolutely true !!!
The New Nasty Party
74 YEARS OLD, LIVING ON A STATE PENSION. WORKED ALL MY LIFE, WINTER, WILL BE HELL.
UKs pension is a disgrace and a pittance to live on in todays economic world
Thank goodness no train drivers or drs and nurses have elderly parents who will sit in the cold this winter.
And it's only a few months ago that Starmer expressed his sadness and horror about an elderly lady who stayed in bed until lunchtime because she couldnt afford to heat the house. Reeves obviously missed that interview.
I thought Tony Blair government was horrendous but this one is pure evil towards the pensioners of this country she needs to have a hard look in the mirror
Mirror mirror on the wall
Who is the meanest of them all?
This is a Tony Blair govt
People already die from hypothermia in this " rich" country. Why should pensioners be made to beg for a little bit of money to help them survive. They may be unable to keep working (why should they have to work until death?). There are enough people to do their jobs and keep the economy and productions ticking along. Remember age comes to us all
And all those who agree with them taking it from us you will be a pensioner one day sooner than you think . Let's see if you feel the same then . Karma .
The cut of the winter fuel allowance for Pensions is mean and spiteful, it’s a sign of things to come from this Gov, god help us in 5 years time, assuming the country does not go in to utter chaos before hand. Stuff Labour
I will point out, some pensioners did vote for this party and are now moaning. You have to be predisposed to having your head unfortunately up your own backside to vote Labour. Reformuk gave everyone who actually cared about Britain a voice and a party to vote for. Would they had been perfect? Nope but much better than the rot Labour is about to inflict on Britain. I give it under 2 years before they collapse and the IMF steps in.
The IMF? They won't step in. You know people will DIE anyway. Just enjoy life as best you're able to.
It’s been proven that very few oap,s voted labour and possibly were the richer ones
Cruel and unnecessary.
Labour and Starmer will be held responsible.
Govt pension is less than half the national living wage and many pensioners spend their days confined to their homes and so need extra heating and will be hit with the double-whammy of no winter fuel payment and increased energy costs.
She doesn't care she's getting 100.000 plus plus benefits etc is the case of liebours I'm alright jack
UK government red or blue don't care a fuk for oaps look after the old folks in their twilight year it's the absolute least a caring society should expect😂
Thank you ...worked all my life from the age of 15 ,paid all my do`s at 71 now paying tax on my state pension ......WHY ...
We are no longer a caring society. It’s a case of me, me, and if there’s anything left me again.
I don’t think people thought that the “difficult decisions to make” would be “do the elderly deserve heating”? Such a sad state of affairs.
Harold Shipman v Rachel Reeves
Nice One!
GP v MP
Foreign aid to countries that don't need it.The boats. which they could stop tomorrow.About 10 million a day and rising for the boats.
The level of contempt the Labour Party MPs have for the elderly & children with the 2 child policy is appalling but at least now we know. Starmer is simply appalling
Don't forget they are going for the disabled, vulnerable with complex needs and unpaid Carers (who save the Government millions and receive £81.00 for 24/7 which if they are on UC is deducted).No social care. No support. Social care has been cut. They will be seriously affected also, especially those who have to plug medical equipment in to stay alive.
They lied they said Pensioners, have nothing to fear, we’ve got their interests. Up north, lots vote, labour, including pensioners.
I can't stand any politicians but Sunak said this would happen under labour 😡🇬🇧
I hope that if tragedy happend that the families sue her
"Who shall we hit first,? "Oh, I know, all those decent and law abiding pensioners, who happily paid their taxes and national insurance contributions over their working lifetimes, ideal!" "Get that through and I'll be up for a Damehood". "By the way, did you manage to find that expenses claim form I'd misplaced, for the new furniture arriving at No.11 in the morning?....
Bl**dy disgraceful 😡
Why do mps get £1500 heating allowance when pensioners have to freeze
Corruption
£3500 FOR THEM
Labour never cared about the working class only their own agenda.
But MP's will still get their fuel allowance !!!!! Disgusting !!!!!
And will take it no doubt.
Oap,s don’t get minimal wage or the living wage
Are the MP’s going to stop claiming on there expenses for there heating?
When you think of all those too idle to work to pay their own rent and claim benefits for it instead, that’s why our heating allowance has been scraped. The benefits system needs urgent attention, you never know it might even slow the boats down.
She should be held accountable
should be payed for people like myself on just the basic pension, not for all those who have mega pensions.
You will own nothing and be happy 😊
Yes there are people who get it when they don’t need it ,it’s the politicians who are going to get it for their second homes.
Using a excuse to fill the big hole in the debt .But giving huge payouts to unions.And a ever increasing bill to immigrants
Filling a supposed financial black hole is not helped by the increased union wages and the borrowing. Borrowing has to be paid back by big interest payments. Giving money to wealth countries like CCP is a joke. Who gives us money? Oh I forgot it’s the taxpayers who Labour are alienating very quickly.
And about 12 billion foreign aid to countries that don't need it and now another 10 billion for climate aid to other countries Britain must be doing fine if we can afford all that ha ha
Why do Mps receive fuel allowance but not pensioners? Who are the most deserving?
We have gone out of the pan into the fire.
Labour out seriously OUT.
🌟🎉NIGEL 🎉FARAGE 🎉🌟
✨️✨️✨️REFORM ✨️✨️✨️
Here's an idea instead of cutting winter fuel have it as a sliding scale so the more income you have the less you get
Basic common sense .Just make it so people have to apply for it so those on small pensions not just pension credit are eligible
Mps do not need the 3 thousand 4 hundred they claim as heating allowance a scandel
When people die because of her action she must be held accountable
I add the MPs are wealthy people millionaires in fact but they get a heating allowance for being rich enough to have second homes
Do people on £80,000 approx like MPs need the heating allowance
Any government can find money when it suits them for what they want to pay for ,,all the chat about this is all red herrings in the scheme of things
To get Pension Credit the form is 243 questions and 24 pages long.
I best not say anything 😢
Isay it again our country is dying where is our king he must step in !?!😡as we will be eating dry🍞🍞
Yes people will die because of this lying low down government.... but, will they care.... not on your life, they're getting their second home heating allowance....😡😡😡
Get them out !!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
IMAGINE BEING IN YOUR EIGHTIES ALONE AND FRAIL WITH NO HEATING BECAUSE YOU DARE NOT PUT IT ON BECAUSE YOU JUST CANT AFFORD TO,, SITTING WITH BLANKETS ACROSS YOUR LAP OR EVEN STAYING IN BED TO JUST KEEP WARM,,, I BELIEVE THIS GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE TAKEN TO TASK FOR EVERY SINGLE DEATH CAUSED BY CUTTING FUEL ALLOWANCE,, JUST TO SUBSIDISE THE IMMIGRANTS,, TOTALLY TOTALLY WRONG ON EVERY LEVEL,,
I hope public have realised that they have made a big mistake bye voting for Labour Party.I will asked public to B prepared for more surprises in coming months.I think this Govt. is not fit to run the country and sooner the people realised and vote for no confidence and get rid of this Govt.the sooner the better.Assylum seekers are getting more money in benefits and free housing and don't have to pay for anything and are living the life of luxiurs with out working.Where as tax payers are struggling to make the ends meet.Pensioners are living the of dogs worst than people in third world country.Shame on this Govt. who ignores their own people.👍👍👍👍👍😀😀😀😀😆😆😆😆🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
A lot of them aren't even grateful for what they're given
She won't care she's saving money until we hear the wost happening to the elderly
Or maybe she thinks it's an Indian summer come winter..
Can you imagine how we are going to be treated when we retire 🤢 protect dads and mums 🙏
And hes got absolutely no plans and nothing to say . Worm .
Increase the cut off point where pensioners recieve benefits....everything has gone up over last few year ...they are paying doctors and nurses wich i agree with ...but i think train drivers where already paid very well for a 4 day week....modern trains are partly automated already....drivers are mainly there for safty reasons...i think it would be better to fully automate the trains ..like Japan
Like to see any MP live on a single person pension...pay for council rate ..food ..utility bills ...plus labour are talking about taxing drivers by the mile ..if you live in the countryside you have no choice but use a car ..there are no good bus services ...does labour want everyone to live in cities....that way no food will be grown
Heart of stone
I heard labour voters say they need to be punished for brexit and voting tory. These people work in the public sector. This is a political move.
I agree it was silly to give the winter fuel payment to millionaires and there should be a cap but not as low as she has put it. Pension credit is paid to people who dont get the full state pension to bring them up to the same level of income and they get the payment, yet the people who have worked all their lives so get the full pension (and no more) are on the same income but dont get the payment!,
Party of service 😂😂😂😂😂
no body will die because of the 300 pound winter fuel cut but 10 million will struggle to pay there bill,but they find money for train drivers ,doctors and the rest will follow,the payment should have been put on top off the pension.
Over 3 thousand died last year with the payment so there will be a lot more this year
You 3 thousand died last year but I don't think it was because they did or did not ,they must have had underlying health problems ,
Mp's can claim up to £3400 for their energy bills
Some policies have a depopulation richter scale value - and the scale of this policy? Targeting a particular voter population is icing on the green depopulation cake.
One of the eligible groups for claiming of winter fuel payments is: If you live in a care home
You can get a Winter Fuel Payment if:
you get certain benefits and are eligible
you lived in a care home for less than 13 weeks including the week of 16 to 22 September 2024
Who will benefit from this, the care home owners will of course, I hope they invest it back into heat and light for the residents not into their mansions and luxury motor vehicles.
WELL I and my wife both in our seventies,,,WILL BE BOOKING OUT SEATS IN THE TOWN HALL. SHOULD WE GET COLD OR RUN OUT OF MONEY FOR HEATING
All part of the great cull.
Mps absolutely dont need their heating allowances paid for by the tax payer, but obviously she thinks they can still afford that!
I worked hard all my life and only managed to pay into a small work pension in the last years before retirement. I get the basic state pension plus a small work pension and am always just above the limit for any benefits, therefore this stopping winter fuel payment is a nightmare, stop and think again. At least pay everyone the new state pension, that may help!!! Last time I vote Labour.
Its their plan
How about using the Foreign Aid budget for illegals, they are foreign and being aided. then the amount given to foreign countries would then be lowered.
Over 150,000 children in England are homeless (MHCLG). Nearly 5,000 people died in the UK last winter due to living in cold and damp homes (End Fuel Poverty Coalition). Pensioners freezing to death while illegal immigrants enjoy luxury hotel's.
I'm sure all of us pensioners could turn up at council offices, court viewing areas, doctors waiting rooms and AandE areas and even illegal migrant hotels, as I am sure the heating thermostats will be turned up
Dreadful policy
This government is proving that there are far more important things in their agenda than our fuel costs. So when he criticized the last government for permitting these price increase, he has just accepted them in the same way. Perhaps he should take a look at other things to stop paying and make a comparison, old age pension 106 pounds, weekly allowance for immigrants or refugees living here (whom have never paid a penny towards same) 250 pounds, British old age pensioners weekly spouse allowance 25 pounds, illegal immigrants living in Britain spouse allowance 250 pounds. British old age pensioners hardship allowance 0.00 ZERO, illegal immigrants living in Britain allowance 100 pounds, a British old age pensioners total benefit 6,000.00 pounds and NOW no Winter fuel allowance thanks to this robbing lot, total ILLEGAL immigrant living in OUR county 29,900pounds. I cannot verify that these figures are 100% correct but in my investigation into where our tax goes they are somewhere near.
As a recent pensioner who must find new work in order to afford a lifestyle beyond existence, I sympathise with those pensioners who will miss the extra winter allowance, but the fact that many will die is of no concern to the Govt, after all for every pensioner who moves on that’s one less pension to pay, and nonGovt shows any concern for the death of its citizens unless it’s newsworthy, hence the homeless who die, the hundreds murdered on the streets by knife wielding criminals, or all the drug deaths, and the ultimate sign that death is only a concern if there’s a photo opportunity is the constant claim around the numbers of Palestinian child deaths due to the conflict in Gaza, if we accept that since the fighting started 30000 children have been killed and many of those deaths could have been prevented, where is the concern that more children have died across the World over the same period many of whom could have been saved, but who cares about children starving in Countries who spend huge amounts on their Armed Forces, no photo op there.
Disgusted with the government how can they do this and then those immigrants get everything so disgusted