i keep rewatching the ending scene over and over- the message of her not forgetting the awful things he's done and literally wiping her paws clean of him to move on, i almost honestly sense a bit of disdain in her expression but she must have felt like that was something she had to do. joke explanation: she forgave him because she didn't want his damn ghost hanging around and bothering her in the afterlife. after he's gone she's just like "oh god, FINALLY" and basically does the irl equivalent of tbagging him in a video game
Ashfur: Goodbye, Squirrelflight Squirrelflight: See you on the other side, Ashfur. Ashfur, flying away: Hollyleaf killed me, btw. Squirrelflight: ... Squirrelflight: *what-*
I LOVE the symbolism with Squirrelflight wiping her hands clean at the end! She's done what she felt she needed to and now she wants to leave Ashfur and all he did on that riverbank. It's also neat that you left it as an after credits scene, since you don't technically need it for the MAP to seem finished (and we know many don't stay until the end of the credits), but for those who do see it it kind of frames the whole MAP as, again, Ashfur interpreting things however he wants and missing the big picture. He sees Squirrelflight forgiving him. He doesn't see her wiping her hands clean of him after he's gone.
I also felt this. I was wondering if Sagutoyas waited to finish as far as he/she could into the series. Don't continue reading if you haven't, but Ashfur is bad I belive. I looked it up on wiki. He was the imposter. So I'm wondering if this was added to show how Squirrelflight couldent care less about him anymore and just acted to send him off. It would also align with her character traits because honestly...squirrelflight is a character iv never liked. Far too much secrecy and dumb things involved with her.
another is similar. '' Forgive and forget.'' there are some things that are worth forgiving and forgetting to show a proper second chance being given. There are things that can be forgiven and like you said to never forget. technically. those two sayings are mainly life in general. anyhow. I'm a tired potato.... goodnight now-
For me, it felt so offputting to the point where, after I finished watching the entire thing, I just felt like I was in a completely different state of mind, and it's honestly kinda scary. This MAP is still absolutely breathtaking nonetheless, and I personally think that the ending just made it even better.
Only the medicine cats and few Leaders have learned the special language of Starclan, but the confusion remains. Since it is so different from the living, they have called this new language, French.
It's kind of neat to see people take a concept like "Ashfur goes to Starclan," which seems really implausible on paper, and turn it into something somewhat believable and emotional. :V
Personally I never believed he should have gone to starclan, considering Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight are a few of my favorites. But after this, I think I can tolerate him :3
Squirrelflight: *singing at a corpse* "AND I LOVE YOU IN MY HEART YOU'LL LIVE ONNNNN!" Everyone nearby: 'Should we be worried-?" Squirrelflight: *stops and rubs blood on the corpse* Everyone: "Yea she's insane"
Something I really love about this MAP is that even though you’ve mentioned none of The Broken Code events have occurred, I think it works really well as an explanation for Ashfur’s actions. I could see him twisting this whole event to support his theory that Squirrelflight secretly loves him, and motivating his actions for the whole arc. Great work everyone!
I think the ending scene can really teach us that we can forgive people not for them but for ourselves while still acknowledging that what that person did was wrong
0:33 - 0:42 is SO HEART-WRENCHING. He feels so guilty and ashamed that he struggles to look her in the eye as he tells her of how he DESPERATELY tried to resent her but couldn't, looking away once more with a bittersweet smile that quickly drops from his face, exposing his weariness and utter exhaustion for all to see. Wonderfully done, artists.
Something stirred in squirrelflight. As the emotions that had stirred within her ebbed away, and the scent of her old friends blood filled her nostrils, she coudnt help the resentment building with in her. Ashfur. Who she had nearly given her life over to. Who tore the clan apart, who tried to kill her- well, leafpools kits. Who tried to murder her father. She didnt have to let go of all of that. She was allowed to be mad. His death only prevented more damage to her family. Glancing at the smeared blood on her paw, she curled her lip. He deserved this, he had hurt her too many times. She smeared it across his pelt, and turned. With one last bittersweet glance back at ashfur she thought "I wont forget you. Or what you did."
I’m sorry that’s really good but that’s not really what happened, as some others said, she wiped the blood on Ashfur’s fur to show that he made the mistakes, not her. It’s completely fine if you changed your mind or something but just wanted to point out that.
@@SmurfleTheSmurf thats.. literally what i wrote? That she decided she didnt have to forgive and forget because he was clearly in the wrong and she was a victim? Idk how you read it though.
THIS WAS SO WORTH THE WAIT!! Everyone did so good! Dear people who missed the Premier Make sure to watch after the credits! Also headcannnon that he wasn't accepted into starclan until he apologized
Anyone else here be watching this ten times a day? Also! I looked up the lyrics and it’s literally saying things like “I want to hate you but the anger has left” and how he’s sorry. Such a perfect song for a perfect map, all the animators did a gorgeous job! Well done everyone!
@@juliealire304 well she did fully forgive him. But doesn't trust him. At the ending scene she rubbed him of his blood that means she's moving on and forgetting it.
WOW. WHAT AN ABSOLUTE POWERMOVE OF A MAP. THE LINEUP HERE WAS JUST . BEYOND GODLY AND I AM SOSOSOOOO HONORED TO BE APART OF THIS!!!!! The colors here are spectacular and every part flows so well to keep the mood, the song choice was perfect and such a chill pace for a warriors map.. it was exciting and heartfelt all the way through and it's impossible to look away from!! You and Egg really outdid yourself on the credits, they're BREATHTAKING and the constellation names are wonderful, ngl I got a bit teary eyed seeing mine LOL AND the END SCENE!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!! Squirrel really reckoning with her choice of forgiveness with the stake and the flame.. SO good. SO GOOD!!!! Wonderful work everyone, this is truly a standout map of our community!! Thank you endlessly for having me, it was a joy to be apart of!!!
as a person who knows nothing about warriors cats, and if does it's for to the maps, i am really...happy to see this wonderful project. I've seen all those maps and pmv and amvs about how troubled, disturbed their relationship has been and how bad it ended, that it was now really well known by my mind ahah. Today i can say that this project really surprised me, a kind of surprise which didn't happen since the 5 giants, this alternative ending made feel certain emotions that even to someone who lived on...maps, amvs, pmv, memes of the warriors without knowing a thing, could feel. I think that's a great acdhievement, you all did a wondeful job and had the brave to bring to life something not written in a book, or made into a video. GREAT GREAT JOB !
Here's a fully english translation so no one else has to guess what ashfur is meowing about You asked me for forgiveness, I rejected you. I wanted you to understand that I was suffering. But your scent is still all over my bed. I'd give anything just to be in your arms (again).
I tried hating you but the anger is gone. The good memories outweigh hate and rancor.
I forgive you, you know not what you have done Ohh I, I forgive you, now it's time for me to move on Ohh I, I forgive you, you did not see right from wrong Ohh I, and I love you Always in my heart you'll live on You'll live on You'll live on
We are passing each other without even looking. I don't even know what to say when people ask me about us. The people around us are trying to bring us to reason. I think it's time to get back together.
I tried hating you but the anger is gone. The good memories outweigh hate and rancor.
I forgive you, you know not what you have done Ohh I, I forgive you, now it's time for me to move on Ohh I, I forgive you, you did not see right from wrong Ohh I, and I love you Always in my heart you'll live on You'll live on You'll live on You're welcome
This is a map that teach us peoples can forgive but never forget.... My grandma has the same problem.. She had such a bad life.. She forgived the persons that did such bad things to her but will never forget what happend behind everything. The map is clean, smooth and beautiful. The animators and the creator did such great job and i like that the message behind this is teaching us something. Keep up the hard work!! ✨💕
That after credits scene gave me a lot of emotions. How I see it is Squirrelflight sobering up to remember the horrible actions he committed. Obviously his apology won’t solve things, but he apologized nonetheless, and both are able to put their dark past behind them - him moving on into Starclan and her wiping his blood off her paws and leaving his husk of a body behind - and look towards the future. And honestly, I see this amazing MAP as a beginning to an even bigger AU than just a sincere apology. I see it as Ashfur separating two sides of himself: the good spirit that sees sense in his actions and admits to his faults, thus granting him peace in Starclan, and the bad, the truly despicable and inexplicable side of him, not shown but stuck in his corpse. The bad side of him stays on earth as a ghost, left to wander forever. Annnddd... fast forward to The Broken Code... Bramblestar loses a life, and the bad side of Ashfur sees a chance, an opportunity. All the while the good side of Ashfur has no clue what the other side of him is about to unleash...
I love the symbolism of the whole map of where she wipes her paws clean, this entire MAP says that she will wipe her paws clean, she will forgive but never forget what he did. It’s such a beautiful way of her letting go, and not living in the past. So instead she will wipe her paws clean and let him go. I believe she wants him to finally be free and not carry that burden of what he has done, so instead she lets him rest in star clan by saying she forgives him.
Gosh this MAP is so gorgeous I'm so glad I was here for the premiere, everyone's parts were absolutely spectacular! Definitely one of my favorite MAPs of the year! I especially love what you did with the ending! At first I took it as a nod to Brambleclaw, that Ashfur's not the only cat who's wronged her and that he should be apologizing too. But then I remembered his contributions to Firestar's capture in the trap and it added that layer to it! It's like she's saying "I forgive you for some things, but you certainly aren't receiving any for taking one of my father's lives." Amazing concept all around, everyone please support every participant involved! :)
There are very few animations and maps in this fandom that make me cry. This is one of them. Sally, This map is one of the best multi-animator videos you’ve hosted. It’s one of the best I have ever seen. The music, the animation, the background, it’s just gorgeous. The scenes with the characters crying and hugging, uggghhh. Hit me with the feels. I love it. Sally, you should feel very proud of yourself, and the other animators. I’m amazed at this. Well done all.
THIS IS LITERALLY SO PRETTY HOLY SHIT..... the atmosphere and character acting is top tier in everyone's parts I can't express how much I love this!!!!!!!
I like how uncomfortable Squirrel looks whenever Ash tries to get her to talk to him/play down what he did. She forgives him, yes, but she wants to move on; he has no right to try and force himself into her life, and I think that’s portrayed wonderfully here.
If y'all didnt know the french part is basicly sayin "I have suffered please forgive me" Wih then the girl that sings says "I forgive you" but like the part that says "You did not see right from wrong" and "Its time for me to move on" Its basicly saying That she forgives him but then reminding him of his actions and not completly frogiving him. Wich is pretty much what happened
Oh lord that ending is chilling, I adore how squirrelflight doesn't fully forgive him cause of all the pain he caused her. Everyone did so wonderful on their parts
The art combined with this song is so utterly beautiful, I saw the different languages as a separation in worlds, how Ash speaks French as he's dead, and Squirrel speaks English as she's alive.
I come back to this occasionally and I still really appreciate the juxtaposition of Squirrelflight forgiving Ashfur and specifically saying via the song that she’s moving on while Ashfur’s only takeaway is that she’s forgiven him for everything. Yet in the end we can see that she chose to forgive him even though it was hard so that she could, literally, wipe her hands of him and get on with her life. That post credits scene was a really brilliant addition and it’s my favorite part of the whole MAP because it totally changes the tone
this map turned out so lovely! the atmosphere, the lip sync, character designs and lighting was all absolutely gorgeous! it was definitely worth the wait, the quality in everyones part was just MMMM CHEFS KISS good job everyone! definitely one of my favorite maps now
I'm still shaking by the fact my drawing is the thumbnail of this amazing map. Thank you so much, you've been such an idol for me for the longest time, it's such an honour Everyone did such great good jobs portraying each scene: the animation, the different styles, and the transitions were *chef's kiss* Really happy seeing this done, the wait was more than worth it and each artist did an awesome job!
Translation from start to end: You asked me to forgive you and I rejected you, (rejected you) I wanted you to understand that I was suffering (I was suffering) but you left your scent on the sheets (on the sheets) I would give everything up just to be in your arms (in your arms) And I tried to hate you but the anger left The good memories prevailed on the hate and rancor. I forgive you, you know not what you have done. Ohh, I forgive you now it’s time for me to move, ohh I forgive you, you did not see right from wrong ohh I and I love you, always in my heart you’ll live on, you’ll live on, you’ll live on. We walk pass each other without a look (a look) I don’t know what to answer when people mention it (mention it) our circles try to reason us (reason) I think it’s time for us to meet again (meet)
The ending scene both hurts and makes me feel good, squirrelflight knows ashfur made awful choices and doesn't pity him, but she refuses to hate him entirely. She has to move on and leave him alone.
Squirrelflight: I forgive you and let you sing in french about how you love me Ashfur: yes Squirrelflight: and then you possess my husband Ashfur: yes Squirrelflight: I-
the ending credit scenes was such an amazing addition. though the positivity that surrounds this map is there it still makes it _very_ clear that what ashfur did wasn't, and never will be okay. squirrelflight's grief, and her choice that was an act of mercy, was _not fueled by guilt,_ but by the friendship they had before that, and their clanmate relationship
This map is stunningly gorgeous; every time it switched animators I got chills by how beautifully everyone did. I am absolutely in awe of the work put in and the sheer skill every single person who participated had. Thank you Sagutoyas for this jaw-dropping work and for all the animators who put their best in for it!
I remember my mom used to say that "Always forgive that person who hurts you, but never trust them back"....this whole map really tells it... amazingly done 🌟🌟🌟
Can I just say, I have watched this so many times and the more I do, the more it seems like during the whole song Squirrelflight has this guarded look in her eyes like she is taking everything with a grain of salt even as she is singing she forgives Ashfur and I think that detail is so amazing.
Everyone did so amazing on this project... the outro was completely beautiful and Im beyond honored to have been involved in this project, god bless yall! 😭❤️
edit: the fact people babysat this video just to dislike is pathetic What makes this even more special is that as a host you kept the map going, no matter what went wrong. It was quite the process to be able to get all the parts in, with people dropping out and/not getting their part done it’s easy to give up. But the fact you pushed along to completion is so inspiring. I personally am not extremely familiar with the warriors characters, arches, relationships, etc, etc, despite me drawing them all the time lol, but this made it easy to understand the story despite it being an AU as well! FANTASTIC job everyone, well worth the wait.
if someone had told me a few years ago that "Je te pardonne" would be used for a MAP video I would have laughed at first. But it's just A MA ZING ; a beautiful map, beautiful characters and beautiful song. Really. Kiss from France
AAAA this looks so amazinG, everyone did suuuuch an amazing job, I'm completely blown back by the pure talent that you peeps have, absolutely worth the wait!! I'm so happy that it came out on my birthday, it absolutely made the day 100% better. Such an amazing end to the horrible year of 2020 💖
My depiction of the end scene: Just because Squirrelflight forgave Ashfur it doesn't mean his actions were justified. Squirrelflight rubbing the blood back onto Ashfur's pelt symbolizes that the blood is still on Ashfur's paws.
This was GORGEOUS!! absolutely beautiful!! I’m so grateful that this MAP came out at the end of such a crappy year, despite all the stuff that’s happening, these artists still worked hard and achieved such a beautiful final product. Thanks to everyone who worked on this! This’ll definitely go down in warriors history.
YOU GUYS- THE CREDITS DESERVE A WHOLE SEPARATE VIDEO OH MY STARS, IT IS GORGEOUS AND SO SO UNIQUE FOR A CREDITS SCENE!!! The way the stars were laid out to make constellations of each and every animator in this project is jaw-dropping. I mean each animator 130% deserves to have their names written in the stars as beautifully as they animated in this amazing MAP. WOW makes me wanna drop everything and start animating. Beautiful job everyone seriously!!!
Forgive but don't forget. Such a stunning MAP. Truly one of the best I've ever seen. It was way worth the wait. All the animators and host have done such a god-like job, all being very skilled and talented. Thank you all 💕
This whole MAP is gorgeous, but i feel like we don't really appreciate the work put into backgrounds in this MAP. They were really amazing at setting the mood, and were very well done in general. But this doesn't mean the animation wasn't excellent, all the animators did an amazing job all together and the MAP is very pleasing to look at! 💕💕 It was worth waiting two years for this! 😌💜💜💜💜💜
0:20 I just really love SquirrelFlight's expression here like you can see he's hurt her but she still can't let what she used to feel for him go and like I've felt that before where I hate this person because they've hurt me time and time again but I can't just let them go as I've been close friends with them, then again we've sorted things out because we were both kids and being really petty but none the less I still love that I hate you but I care for you expression.
I am glad i found this.I was recently got into WC.And finding this MAP made me think about some of my personal life problematics.I forgave someone who plenty of time ago hurted me a lot.I wanted to say,thank you.
Same… I still look up to their talent, but not them as a person anymore. They were definitely one of my hugest inspirations. I hate watching videos from bad people but in the case of MAPs I do simply because of the effort and work out in from others.
I love the end scene, with her face expressions you can tell she forgives him but can't excuse his actions. I love it, thank you to everyone you took part in this credit to them this turned out epic!! And thanks to Sagutoyas for hosting the map and putting everyones work together in one piece, it's amazing!! I love it!! Thank you!!
Wow those credits are gorgeous and the after credits scene adds so much! I like the thought that maybe she was romanticizing their friendship in this wave of sudden loss but then she comes back to the reality that Ashfur hurt her and the cats she loved. It can be a mix of emotions when someone you were close to who also hurt you passes! Anyways the parts for this map have blown me away over the years and it's great to see it finished!
I loved everything about this map and how so much effort over two whole years were put into this masterpiece of a video! It’s beautiful in the story, animation, and music, and really delivers such strong beautiful emotions ❤️❤️❤️
Well, thank you for such a beautiful MAP. When I first learned about this concept, I was glad that at least someone sees Ashfar as a positive character. Now, every time I watch this video, I want to cry. Knowing what the Hunters did to my favorite character in the Broken Code makes me want to die even more. I know it sounds strange, but I have some problems with (mental) health, and books about warriors are one of the most positive memories of my childhood. I think no one here will hear me, but this is rather a cry of the soul that needed to be realized for a long time. I understand that this is all pointless and useless, but I hope that at least someone will hear me. I'm sorry
My interpretation of the end credits scene is while Squirrelflight (mostly) forgives Ashfur, she realizes nothing can redeem his actions, and the blood isn’t on her own paws.
I'm so excited! Been following this project since it was announced and seeing it complete is amazing. As always with all of these artists, gorgeous work, amazing teamwork, and just... incredible result. Thank you all. Sagutoyas I don't know how you do it, your animation is so vibrant, so smooth, and you manage to portray things so clearly without a lot of extra lines or motions- the end where she wipes her paw, you managed to convey the texture of the fur and the lack of give or return motion a dead body has perfectly... as someone who grew up in the sticks I've seen and touched my share of dead things and it was instantly recognizable that Ashfur was not alive when she touched him. But when you animate characters who are alive touching, it's just as obvious that they are solidly interacting and that they are two live bodies in some kind of contact. I'm consistently so impressed with your work and those small details do NOT go unnoticed or unappreciated! I'm always in awe of all of you, but Sagutoyas I LOVE your attention to detail.
Wow.. this is actually crazy good, especially since it was before all the broken code stuff hadn't happened yet. The ending and her expression speaks volumes.
Riverclan in the other side of the lake : why is she singing alone with a corpse?
LOL
Lmao
xD
XDD
No we can all relate so I mean
i keep rewatching the ending scene over and over- the message of her not forgetting the awful things he's done and literally wiping her paws clean of him to move on, i almost honestly sense a bit of disdain in her expression but she must have felt like that was something she had to do.
joke explanation: she forgave him because she didn't want his damn ghost hanging around and bothering her in the afterlife. after he's gone she's just like "oh god, FINALLY" and basically does the irl equivalent of tbagging him in a video game
Gosh IMAGINE. Now I need a spoof of her tbagging his corpse
Yeah.
As an Ashfur fan, the ending filled me with sadness. But I can understand her not forgiving him.
She can never truly forgive him. But it fills me with happiness that she sent him to starclan.
@@movedtocupowarriors4205 Yeah, he definitely doesn't deserve forgiveness at all.
Squirrelflight- Are you going to tel me who killed you?
Ashfur - No but I am going to sing in French about how I love you
Hollyleaf: Welp I’m safe
🥺🥺
@@jessiebear6730 *EPICLY POPS IN AND SAYS WHO KILLED ASHFUR*
@@SmurfleTheSmurf **Goes along to confirm it because I filmed it on my phone xD**
@@probablysatan..5776 is it caught in 4K?
Ashfur: Goodbye, Squirrelflight
Squirrelflight: See you on the other side, Ashfur.
Ashfur, flying away: Hollyleaf killed me, btw.
Squirrelflight: ...
Squirrelflight: *what-*
😂
Someone needs to host a map of this LOL.
🤣😂😅
😂😂😂
@@estevan764 you know i might just do that XD
but for rreal i might and i would need some help :>
“Be nice enough to forgive someone, But don’t be stupid enough to trust them again.”
Basically what happened after the credit scene!
So true UwU
This actually kinda helped me.. Thanks
- Heathcliff
K edgy kid
I LOVE the symbolism with Squirrelflight wiping her hands clean at the end! She's done what she felt she needed to and now she wants to leave Ashfur and all he did on that riverbank. It's also neat that you left it as an after credits scene, since you don't technically need it for the MAP to seem finished (and we know many don't stay until the end of the credits), but for those who do see it it kind of frames the whole MAP as, again, Ashfur interpreting things however he wants and missing the big picture. He sees Squirrelflight forgiving him. He doesn't see her wiping her hands clean of him after he's gone.
Bro. Ur words to these characters and map ppl are deserve to be noticed.
@@CookyTired Cant agree more on this))))
I also felt this. I was wondering if Sagutoyas waited to finish as far as he/she could into the series. Don't continue reading if you haven't, but Ashfur is bad I belive. I looked it up on wiki. He was the imposter. So I'm wondering if this was added to show how Squirrelflight couldent care less about him anymore and just acted to send him off. It would also align with her character traits because honestly...squirrelflight is a character iv never liked. Far too much secrecy and dumb things involved with her.
@@CookyTired agreed
The big 15 is a Soviet jet that had sub sonic speeds and was quite superior to most jets during the 50s when it was made
As the old saying goes: *"You can forgive, but you can NEVER forget.."*
People with amnesia: what does this even mean??
another is similar. '' Forgive and forget.''
there are some things that are worth forgiving and forgetting to show a proper second chance being given.
There are things that can be forgiven and like you said to never forget. technically. those two sayings are mainly life in general. anyhow. I'm a tired potato.... goodnight now-
@@someonestired5603 lol funny am going to bed now to thx goodnight to you to
Why is this so true ;_;
That after credits scene though... THIS MAP GAVE OFF LITERAL CHILLS MAN! Everyone did so well with their parts and the concept is amazing!
The after credits caught me off guard and so did the everything else!
For me, it felt so offputting to the point where, after I finished watching the entire thing, I just felt like I was in a completely different state of mind, and it's honestly kinda scary. This MAP is still absolutely breathtaking nonetheless, and I personally think that the ending just made it even better.
Baguette
IKR
The entire map gave me chill!
I can’t stop watching dis ❤️
No wonder StarClan's prophecies are confusing; when you die you end up speaking French all of a sudden.
LMAOO
PFFAAAA
Only the medicine cats and few Leaders have learned the special language of Starclan, but the confusion remains. Since it is so different from the living, they have called this new language, French.
My mother is French and I am not, so I can confirm
😭😭
Ashfur: Will you forgive me?
Squirrelflight: AIEYEIEAYEE
Ashfur: Haven't you hurt me enough, without hurting my ears as well?
BHAHAHaHA
FRENCH: ashfur : Voulez-vous me pardonner ? Squirrelflinght: AIEYEIEAYEE Ashfur: Tu ne m'as pas assez blessé, sans me faire mal aux oreilles aussi ?
lmao
This is sERiOuSE not funny
Serious
Plot twist Ashfur went to StarClan because Mapleshade drove him out of Dark Forest
lmfao
This is canon and I will not accept anything else
OMG HI NORTH
:0
Sounds real, ngl.
"Ew I still have blood on my hands."
*wipes it with corspe.*
"Much better"
Ashfur the tissue
@@Demon-hj3fh Tissuefur XD
Lmao yes xD
@@Demon-hj3fh lmao
Ashfur in Starclan: Suprised Pikachu face
It's kind of neat to see people take a concept like "Ashfur goes to Starclan," which seems really implausible on paper, and turn it into something somewhat believable and emotional. :V
@Wowie Zowie Oh geez, I can actually accept that reasoning
Personally I never believed he should have gone to starclan, considering Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight are a few of my favorites. But after this, I think I can tolerate him :3
Yeah I love it! And hi ink!
@Dyu not very well, but I am a fan of ink :)
New au: Ashfur speaks French, and he remains the only cat in the clans to not speak English
And... What was the thing in the END? After texts.
@@karmeli2254
you mean the end-credits?-
@@karmeli2254 ??
Umm.. No? I mean after credits was something, what did Squirrelflight doe to Ashfur's pody, and why?
@@karmeli2254
that’s the end credits.
it meant that she forgave him, but would never forget the horrible thing he did.
Squirrelflight: *singing at a corpse* "AND I LOVE YOU IN MY HEART YOU'LL LIVE ONNNNN!"
Everyone nearby: 'Should we be worried-?"
Squirrelflight: *stops and rubs blood on the corpse*
Everyone: "Yea she's insane"
firestar, sandstorm, and leafpool: :O :O :O
😂
Me during the map:😢😭😭😭😭. Me after seeing this comment:😂😂😂
@@NezukoscatFR same
Squirrelflight: ew **wipes blood on corpse**
*slaps it on the body*
*e w*
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Ashfur when he gets into StarClan: "SIKE"
LMAO
ASKLLADKLAKDSFIOWFHKWQ OH MY GOD-
Something I really love about this MAP is that even though you’ve mentioned none of The Broken Code events have occurred, I think it works really well as an explanation for Ashfur’s actions. I could see him twisting this whole event to support his theory that Squirrelflight secretly loves him, and motivating his actions for the whole arc. Great work everyone!
I never thought about it like that!
TRUEEE
Squirrelflight should have chosen ashfur instead, fight me
@@candlesticks8 the dude was FUCKING POSSESSIVE AF. Literally he's just as bad as bramblestar.
@@candlesticks8
Welllll! Ashfur was the one to resort to murder so Brambleclaw is better in that regard. In the regard that he won’t kill her babies.
Don’t you love having that moment where the ghost of your ex comes to sing and you just sing along without questioning 👌
Yes XD
Happens all the time, man.. all the damn time..
In French nonetheless
Lol
Every single cat in a 3 mile radius of Squirrelflight: why tf is she singing alone, with a corpse?
Squirrelflight: *AIIIIIIIEIEIEIEIEIIEIEIEEEE*
I mis read this as ever single like available person and only the single people were thinking this...
Oh my God I let out an unholy snort when I saw this comment XDDD
The twolegs, hearing it: wtf-
Squilf: AIIEIEIE!
Sometimes you just got to do it to cope!
*Squilf:* I accept your apology Ashfur
*Also Squilf:* lol sike
*Ashfur in StarClan:* Imma do what's called a pro gamer move
Wow this is pure gold
Ashfur: *Possesses Bramblestar aka Shitstar*
psyche Is how you spell it and no one can convince me otherwise
@@thishuman1621 it is actually not sure why people go SIKE when it's psyche as in "she psyched me out man"
@Ribotto Studios it’s actually not psyche, it’s psych, just some of the Americans interpreted it as sike and here we are.
this came out so beautiful, I especially love the end credits scene ;__;
Bruh same ;-; also im ur biggest fan lol
I need a bit of explaining on the last scene after the credits because I didnt really understand it.
@@scourge176 try and find Sophie Suncatcher's comment, it explains it quite well, well it was just her opinion but it makes alot of sense
Love your warrior, poet, ruler meme! Every since it’s been a trend I enjoy a lot of them.
@@IDK098 thanks
I think the ending scene can really teach us that we can forgive people not for them but for ourselves while still acknowledging that what that person did was wrong
Ashfur: "Jesufla"
Squirrelflight: "What did you say?"
Ashfur: "Jesufla"
Squirrelflght: (Mind) *When did he learn words like that?!*
0:33 - 0:42 is SO HEART-WRENCHING. He feels so guilty and ashamed that he struggles to look her in the eye as he tells her of how he DESPERATELY tried to resent her but couldn't, looking away once more with a bittersweet smile that quickly drops from his face, exposing his weariness and utter exhaustion for all to see. Wonderfully done, artists.
No one:
SquirrelFlight: mhmmmmmm let me test the blood
Squirrelflight: yeah in effect is blood
@@CELINARA1444 taste the dna
Squirrelflight: 28 STAB WOUNDS
and after that the whole clan considered her as the murderer. She literally has smell of blood on her paws.
This is such an iconic project and it’s wonderful to see it completed!!!!!!
🌈✌️👍🏿🤙🏻🙏🏿💔😍😁🥺🎆💞😋😇😂😂🤍
@@sandyaraujo5222 xd
The ending scene tho
Squirrelflight forgave, but will never forget.
Beautiful
Jayfeather: How did Ashfur get into Starclan?
Yellowfang: *Pulls out a phone and types "Je Te Pardonne map" into RUclips
poor Jayfeather has too watch his mother sing with her ex, who tried to murder him
@@hathatto1129 😂
Something stirred in squirrelflight. As the emotions that had stirred within her ebbed away, and the scent of her old friends blood filled her nostrils, she coudnt help the resentment building with in her.
Ashfur. Who she had nearly given her life over to. Who tore the clan apart, who tried to kill her- well, leafpools kits. Who tried to murder her father.
She didnt have to let go of all of that. She was allowed to be mad. His death only prevented more damage to her family.
Glancing at the smeared blood on her paw, she curled her lip. He deserved this, he had hurt her too many times.
She smeared it across his pelt, and turned. With one last bittersweet glance back at ashfur she thought
"I wont forget you. Or what you did."
I’m sorry that’s really good but that’s not really what happened, as some others said, she wiped the blood on Ashfur’s fur to show that he made the mistakes, not her. It’s completely fine if you changed your mind or something but just wanted to point out that.
@@SmurfleTheSmurf thats.. literally what i wrote? That she decided she didnt have to forgive and forget because he was clearly in the wrong and she was a victim?
Idk how you read it though.
@@cicadeus7741 Oop sorry I read that in the middle of the night, I read “I won’t forgive you” Now I read it again in the morning, sorry-
@@SmurfleTheSmurf its ok! We've all been there. I hope youre well rested now homie ♡
I love this!
The post credits scene was?? I loved it. This whole thing is a piece of art.
THIS WAS SO WORTH THE WAIT!!
Everyone did so good!
Dear people who missed the Premier
Make sure to watch after the credits!
Also headcannnon that he wasn't accepted into starclan until he apologized
Ashfur getting into starclan:
*i used an advanced technique there called*
*LYING*
truth
SquirrelFlight: You may have outsmarted me, *but I outsmarted your outsmarting!*
@@faxyplayz1660 LOLL HSGSHG
ashfur + technoblade = ashnoblade
@@unresponsiveghostie yay someone got the Technoblade reference lol
Plot twist: Ashfur actually did see her wiping the blood off her paw, and, deeply upset came back to steal her husband
Literally. His body.
Anyone else here be watching this ten times a day? Also! I looked up the lyrics and it’s literally saying things like “I want to hate you but the anger has left” and how he’s sorry. Such a perfect song for a perfect map, all the animators did a gorgeous job! Well done everyone!
There are captions on the video...
Yep. I watch it daily lol 😂
I'm legitimately angry at myself for missing the premiere (also that ending was cool, with her not fully forgiving him)
Same.
But why...I rlly want them to be cool and forget abt things and move on
@@juliealire304 I mean to be fair , would you fully forgive someone that took part in killing your father and adopted children?
@@juliealire304 well she did fully forgive him. But doesn't trust him. At the ending scene she rubbed him of his blood that means she's moving on and forgetting it.
@@an_egg_wow their cats in the book almost a lot of cats die so pretty sure she's used to it
WOW. WHAT AN ABSOLUTE POWERMOVE OF A MAP. THE LINEUP HERE WAS JUST . BEYOND GODLY AND I AM SOSOSOOOO HONORED TO BE APART OF THIS!!!!! The colors here are spectacular and every part flows so well to keep the mood, the song choice was perfect and such a chill pace for a warriors map.. it was exciting and heartfelt all the way through and it's impossible to look away from!! You and Egg really outdid yourself on the credits, they're BREATHTAKING and the constellation names are wonderful, ngl I got a bit teary eyed seeing mine LOL AND the END SCENE!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!! Squirrel really reckoning with her choice of forgiveness with the stake and the flame.. SO good. SO GOOD!!!! Wonderful work everyone, this is truly a standout map of our community!! Thank you endlessly for having me, it was a joy to be apart of!!!
as a person who knows nothing about warriors cats, and if does it's for to the maps, i am really...happy to see this wonderful project. I've seen all those maps and pmv and amvs about how troubled, disturbed their relationship has been and how bad it ended, that it was now really well known by my mind ahah. Today i can say that this project really surprised me, a kind of surprise which didn't happen since the 5 giants, this alternative ending made feel certain emotions that even to someone who lived on...maps, amvs, pmv, memes of the warriors without knowing a thing, could feel. I think that's a great acdhievement, you all did a wondeful job and had the brave to bring to life something not written in a book, or made into a video. GREAT GREAT JOB !
@Grace Slagle don’t worry i get my knowledge from maps too
Same…
Here's a fully english translation so no one else has to guess what ashfur is meowing about
You asked me for forgiveness, I rejected you.
I wanted you to understand that I was suffering.
But your scent is still all over my bed.
I'd give anything just to be in your arms (again).
I tried hating you but the anger is gone.
The good memories outweigh hate and rancor.
I forgive you, you know not what you have done
Ohh I, I forgive you, now it's time for me to move on
Ohh I, I forgive you, you did not see right from wrong
Ohh I, and I love you
Always in my heart you'll live on
You'll live on
You'll live on
We are passing each other without even looking.
I don't even know what to say when people ask me about us.
The people around us are trying to bring us to reason.
I think it's time to get back together.
I tried hating you but the anger is gone.
The good memories outweigh hate and rancor.
I forgive you, you know not what you have done
Ohh I, I forgive you, now it's time for me to move on
Ohh I, I forgive you, you did not see right from wrong
Ohh I, and I love you
Always in my heart you'll live on
You'll live on
You'll live on
You're welcome
Damn it feels weird to hear it in English (I can understand the original french btw- it just feels so different)
There's also subtitles with the English translation but this could help if people can't or don't want to turn on the subtitles
There are english captions
I know French, so I know what he said…but it feels weird when it’s in English O.o
Okay im sorry but you literally wasted ur time cuz there are english captions-
This is a map that teach us peoples can forgive but never forget.... My grandma has the same problem.. She had such a bad life.. She forgived the persons that did such bad things to her but will never forget what happend behind everything. The map is clean, smooth and beautiful. The animators and the creator did such great job and i like that the message behind this is teaching us something. Keep up the hard work!! ✨💕
That after credits scene gave me a lot of emotions.
How I see it is Squirrelflight sobering up to remember the horrible actions he committed. Obviously his apology won’t solve things, but he apologized nonetheless, and both are able to put their dark past behind them - him moving on into Starclan and her wiping his blood off her paws and leaving his husk of a body behind - and look towards the future.
And honestly, I see this amazing MAP as a beginning to an even bigger AU than just a sincere apology. I see it as Ashfur separating two sides of himself: the good spirit that sees sense in his actions and admits to his faults, thus granting him peace in Starclan, and the bad, the truly despicable and inexplicable side of him, not shown but stuck in his corpse. The bad side of him stays on earth as a ghost, left to wander forever.
Annnddd... fast forward to The Broken Code... Bramblestar loses a life, and the bad side of Ashfur sees a chance, an opportunity. All the while the good side of Ashfur has no clue what the other side of him is about to unleash...
yes thats what i love about this map and when they hug too (:
A ghost split in two is a really cool concept
@@Hatchimatchii its a great concept
Ashfur and Squirelflight are singing while Ashfur's corpse is just vibin'
wow haters have their notifications on if they’re earlier than most people-
I love how when Ashfur goes to star-clan, another star appears in the sky, like all the stars at night represent our ancestors
yes.. its the great kings of the past... watching over us
3:28-3:31
I love the symbolism of the whole map of where she wipes her paws clean, this entire MAP says that she will wipe her paws clean, she will forgive but never forget what he did. It’s such a beautiful way of her letting go, and not living in the past. So instead she will wipe her paws clean and let him go. I believe she wants him to finally be free and not carry that burden of what he has done, so instead she lets him rest in star clan by saying she forgives him.
Gosh this MAP is so gorgeous I'm so glad I was here for the premiere, everyone's parts were absolutely spectacular! Definitely one of my favorite MAPs of the year!
I especially love what you did with the ending! At first I took it as a nod to Brambleclaw, that Ashfur's not the only cat who's wronged her and that he should be apologizing too. But then I remembered his contributions to Firestar's capture in the trap and it added that layer to it! It's like she's saying "I forgive you for some things, but you certainly aren't receiving any for taking one of my father's lives."
Amazing concept all around, everyone please support every participant involved! :)
There are very few animations and maps in this fandom that make me cry. This is one of them.
Sally, This map is one of the best multi-animator videos you’ve hosted. It’s one of the best I have ever seen. The music, the animation, the background, it’s just gorgeous. The scenes with the characters crying and hugging, uggghhh. Hit me with the feels. I love it. Sally, you should feel very proud of yourself, and the other animators. I’m amazed at this. Well done all.
THIS IS LITERALLY SO PRETTY HOLY SHIT..... the atmosphere and character acting is top tier in everyone's parts I can't express how much I love this!!!!!!!
I like how uncomfortable Squirrel looks whenever Ash tries to get her to talk to him/play down what he did. She forgives him, yes, but she wants to move on; he has no right to try and force himself into her life, and I think that’s portrayed wonderfully here.
If y'all didnt know the french part is basicly sayin "I have suffered please forgive me" Wih then the girl that sings says "I forgive you" but like the part that says "You did not see right from wrong" and "Its time for me to move on" Its basicly saying That she forgives him but then reminding him of his actions and not completly frogiving him. Wich is pretty much what happened
Squirrelflight pre-credits: I forgive you
TRUE LOL
Lol Ashfur the tissue
Oh lord that ending is chilling, I adore how squirrelflight doesn't fully forgive him cause of all the pain he caused her. Everyone did so wonderful on their parts
That last Scene was the biggest plot twist I had this year.
The art combined with this song is so utterly beautiful, I saw the different languages as a separation in worlds, how Ash speaks French as he's dead, and Squirrel speaks English as she's alive.
I come back to this occasionally and I still really appreciate the juxtaposition of Squirrelflight forgiving Ashfur and specifically saying via the song that she’s moving on while Ashfur’s only takeaway is that she’s forgiven him for everything. Yet in the end we can see that she chose to forgive him even though it was hard so that she could, literally, wipe her hands of him and get on with her life.
That post credits scene was a really brilliant addition and it’s my favorite part of the whole MAP because it totally changes the tone
this map turned out so lovely! the atmosphere, the lip sync, character designs and lighting was all absolutely gorgeous! it was definitely worth the wait, the quality in everyones part was just MMMM CHEFS KISS
good job everyone! definitely one of my favorite maps now
Yep, one of my favs too!
amazing map
I'm still shaking by the fact my drawing is the thumbnail of this amazing map. Thank you so much, you've been such an idol for me for the longest time, it's such an honour
Everyone did such great good jobs portraying each scene: the animation, the different styles, and the transitions were *chef's kiss*
Really happy seeing this done, the wait was more than worth it and each artist did an awesome job!
Congratulations!
@@aster2157 thank you, fam!
OMG I READ IT AS “10 MONTHS AGO” instead of “PREMIERED 10 MINUTES AGO” AND I WAS SO DISTRAUGHT
OH MAN-
I KNOW MAN
WHAT ON EARTH-
@Wowie Zowie OOP
I wonder what alternative universe me is like..
Translation from start to end:
You asked me to forgive you and I rejected you, (rejected you) I wanted you to understand that I was suffering (I was suffering) but you left your scent on the sheets (on the sheets) I would give everything up just to be in your arms (in your arms)
And I tried to hate you but the anger left The good memories prevailed on the hate and rancor.
I forgive you, you know not what you have done. Ohh, I forgive you now it’s time for me to move, ohh I forgive you, you did not see right from wrong ohh I and I love you, always in my heart you’ll live on, you’ll live on, you’ll live on.
We walk pass each other without a look (a look) I don’t know what to answer when people mention it (mention it) our circles try to reason us (reason) I think it’s time for us to meet again (meet)
The ending scene both hurts and makes me feel good, squirrelflight knows ashfur made awful choices and doesn't pity him, but she refuses to hate him entirely. She has to move on and leave him alone.
this map turned out so pretty and you have such good map concepts.... and thanks for letting me draw the credits background!!!! :D
ORRGR GRRR GRRR THIS TURNED OUT SO BEAUTIFUL AND I LOVE UR LITTLE ANIMATION AT THE END DEAR LORD
Absolutely gorgeous MAP
Also *slaps the top of Ashfur’s corpse* this bad boy can fit so much stupid in it
Squirrelflight: I forgive you and let you sing in french about how you love me
Ashfur: yes
Squirrelflight: and then you possess my husband
Ashfur: yes
Squirrelflight: I-
2:39 this smile is SO CUTE it almost made me forgive ashfur
the ending credit scenes was such an amazing addition.
though the positivity that surrounds this map is there it still makes it _very_ clear that what ashfur did wasn't, and never will be okay. squirrelflight's grief, and her choice that was an act of mercy, was _not fueled by guilt,_ but by the friendship they had before that, and their clanmate relationship
This map is stunningly gorgeous; every time it switched animators I got chills by how beautifully everyone did. I am absolutely in awe of the work put in and the sheer skill every single person who participated had. Thank you Sagutoyas for this jaw-dropping work and for all the animators who put their best in for it!
I remember my mom used to say that "Always forgive that person who hurts you, but never trust them back"....this whole map really tells it... amazingly done 🌟🌟🌟
Squirrelflight: I forgive you
The Broken Code: I'm finna end this she-cat's whole career
Can I just say, I have watched this so many times and the more I do, the more it seems like during the whole song Squirrelflight has this guarded look in her eyes like she is taking everything with a grain of salt even as she is singing she forgives Ashfur and I think that detail is so amazing.
Squilf: I forgive you!
Ashfur in the current books: NO!
Lion guard reference?
Everyone did so amazing on this project... the outro was completely beautiful and Im beyond honored to have been involved in this project, god bless yall! 😭❤️
edit: the fact people babysat this video just to dislike is pathetic
What makes this even more special is that as a host you kept the map going, no matter what went wrong. It was quite the process to be able to get all the parts in, with people dropping out and/not getting their part done it’s easy to give up. But the fact you pushed along to completion is so inspiring. I personally am not extremely familiar with the warriors characters, arches, relationships, etc, etc, despite me drawing them all the time lol, but this made it easy to understand the story despite it being an AU as well! FANTASTIC job everyone, well worth the wait.
I know! Everyone did so good ✨
if someone had told me a few years ago that "Je te pardonne" would be used for a MAP video I would have laughed at first. But it's just A MA ZING ; a beautiful map, beautiful characters and beautiful song. Really. Kiss from France
I am blown away!! This is such a high quality MAP, the Warriors fandom gets better every day I swear
AAAA this looks so amazinG, everyone did suuuuch an amazing job, I'm completely blown back by the pure talent that you peeps have, absolutely worth the wait!! I'm so happy that it came out on my birthday, it absolutely made the day 100% better. Such an amazing end to the horrible year of 2020 💖
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YOUR ANIMATIONS ARE AMAZING TOO!
My depiction of the end scene: Just because Squirrelflight forgave Ashfur it doesn't mean his actions were justified. Squirrelflight rubbing the blood back onto Ashfur's pelt symbolizes that the blood is still on Ashfur's paws.
This was GORGEOUS!! absolutely beautiful!!
I’m so grateful that this MAP came out at the end of such a crappy year, despite all the stuff that’s happening, these artists still worked hard and achieved such a beautiful final product. Thanks to everyone who worked on this!
This’ll definitely go down in warriors history.
Yes, yes it will.
Yes! It will! It was definitely worth the wait!
Squirrelflight: Ashfur...?
Ashfur: ....
Squirrelflight: What happened..?
Ashfur: SINGS IN FRENCH
YOU GUYS- THE CREDITS DESERVE A WHOLE SEPARATE VIDEO OH MY STARS, IT IS GORGEOUS AND SO SO UNIQUE FOR A CREDITS SCENE!!! The way the stars were laid out to make constellations of each and every animator in this project is jaw-dropping. I mean each animator 130% deserves to have their names written in the stars as beautifully as they animated in this amazing MAP. WOW makes me wanna drop everything and start animating. Beautiful job everyone seriously!!!
Forgive but don't forget.
Such a stunning MAP. Truly one of the best I've ever seen. It was way worth the wait. All the animators and host have done such a god-like job, all being very skilled and talented. Thank you all 💕
I like how at the end she does like know what Ash did and just wipes off the blood on him, but like EVERYONE did amazingly!! This map is so beautiful!
This whole MAP is gorgeous, but i feel like we don't really appreciate the work put into backgrounds in this MAP.
They were really amazing at setting the mood, and were very well done in general.
But this doesn't mean the animation wasn't excellent, all the animators did an amazing job all together and the MAP is very pleasing to look at! 💕💕
It was worth waiting two years for this! 😌💜💜💜💜💜
So much better than what happens canonically
0:20 I just really love SquirrelFlight's expression here like you can see he's hurt her but she still can't let what she used to feel for him go and like I've felt that before where I hate this person because they've hurt me time and time again but I can't just let them go as I've been close friends with them, then again we've sorted things out because we were both kids and being really petty but none the less I still love that I hate you but I care for you expression.
LOVE the blue accents to Ashfur's design!!! And I especially love Squirrelflight's green eyes and freckles. SUPER JOB ON THIS EVERYONE! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I am glad i found this.I was recently got into WC.And finding this MAP made me think about some of my personal life problematics.I forgave someone who plenty of time ago hurted me a lot.I wanted to say,thank you.
This is amazing! It kind of feels like Squrrelflight was Ashfurs final judge so starclan let him in.
Ah, yes… forgiveness. Something this map host will probably never get.
This MAP aged like milk.
@@SonarTheBat Sad. Sally was so talented, and I used to hold her in a very high regard. I hate when these things happen.
Same… I still look up to their talent, but not them as a person anymore. They were definitely one of my hugest inspirations. I hate watching videos from bad people but in the case of MAPs I do simply because of the effort and work out in from others.
Dawg she groomed a child
I love the end scene, with her face expressions you can tell she forgives him but can't excuse his actions. I love it, thank you to everyone you took part in this credit to them this turned out epic!! And thanks to Sagutoyas for hosting the map and putting everyones work together in one piece, it's amazing!! I love it!! Thank you!!
Wow those credits are gorgeous and the after credits scene adds so much! I like the thought that maybe she was romanticizing their friendship in this wave of sudden loss but then she comes back to the reality that Ashfur hurt her and the cats she loved. It can be a mix of emotions when someone you were close to who also hurt you passes! Anyways the parts for this map have blown me away over the years and it's great to see it finished!
I loved everything about this map and how so much effort over two whole years were put into this masterpiece of a video! It’s beautiful in the story, animation, and music, and really delivers such strong beautiful emotions ❤️❤️❤️
This whole thing was a masterpiece. Even the credits scene was incredible.
Erin Hunter decided to watch this and then wrote The Broken Code series afterwards to mess with our emotions 😎👍
Well, thank you for such a beautiful MAP. When I first learned about this concept, I was glad that at least someone sees Ashfar as a positive character. Now, every time I watch this video, I want to cry. Knowing what the Hunters did to my favorite character in the Broken Code makes me want to die even more. I know it sounds strange, but I have some problems with (mental) health, and books about warriors are one of the most positive memories of my childhood. I think no one here will hear me, but this is rather a cry of the soul that needed to be realized for a long time. I understand that this is all pointless and useless, but I hope that at least someone will hear me.
I'm sorry
Ahhh it was so amazing! Everyone involved needs all the love!
Gahhh this actually made me cry... amazing job... this really made me emotional, one of my favourite MAPs I'd have to say :0
My interpretation of the end credits scene is while Squirrelflight (mostly) forgives Ashfur, she realizes nothing can redeem his actions, and the blood isn’t on her own paws.
I'm so excited! Been following this project since it was announced and seeing it complete is amazing. As always with all of these artists, gorgeous work, amazing teamwork, and just... incredible result. Thank you all. Sagutoyas I don't know how you do it, your animation is so vibrant, so smooth, and you manage to portray things so clearly without a lot of extra lines or motions- the end where she wipes her paw, you managed to convey the texture of the fur and the lack of give or return motion a dead body has perfectly... as someone who grew up in the sticks I've seen and touched my share of dead things and it was instantly recognizable that Ashfur was not alive when she touched him. But when you animate characters who are alive touching, it's just as obvious that they are solidly interacting and that they are two live bodies in some kind of contact. I'm consistently so impressed with your work and those small details do NOT go unnoticed or unappreciated! I'm always in awe of all of you, but Sagutoyas I LOVE your attention to detail.
Wow.. this is actually crazy good, especially since it was before all the broken code stuff hadn't happened yet. The ending and her expression speaks volumes.