This might be one of your best videos yet! I have been struggling w/ how to figure out what I can get out of a wire made into a coil, or at least, figuring out how many turns of what wire. I like the explanation of knowing the max amps that can be produced and using that as a baseline for minimum wire gauge. Makes sense....if it can only produce 1A, well, there's no need to even need to look at 16g wire. While the wire diameter doesn't have a direct relationship to voltage, it does indirectly, as you can get those extra turns because it is smaller diameter. To me, that simple example helps me understand it. I hope we get a quick test of how that coil performed vs the original. As far as your winder, I don't know if I could redesign it to expand, I could probably figure out how to make a hub that you would then put different diameters onto. That would at least save on material as you'd only print the outside as the centers would always be the same. Of course this is a bit limited to scale....it would work great for diameters of 100mm-150mm, but probably not so much going from 10mm to 150mm!
I am really glad it helped mate - all a bit rule of thumb I know but i hope it helps folks get a grip on it - nice suggestion on the hub _ i was pondering that as I want to add a counter and you solved that problem for me - cheers
Hi Robert, co-alchemist here, didnt watch your vids for a while as i was doing last few years, don't know why, but just saw this one and was so destracted with your 59-24 patti background, which is beautiful but also al lot of info to digest... i feel so (not sure what word calls it in english for feeling out of place) but thanks for keeping exploring and sharing your spirit. ty
Great tool 👍 Are you just counting the turns on the handle to reach 1000 winding? How about adding a gear to the handle, e.g. adding a 1:10 ratio would only require to count to 100. Makes counting and accurate wires better. But in general, thank you for all the videos you make. They are nice to watch and easy to follow. Great work 👍👍👍
Thanks Robert excellent video. I would like to see how you bent it into shape after winding the 1,000 coils. Maybe something to cover in another video that uses the winding.
Good information thankyou for sharing. Your coil winder is great. I hate winding the hair thick magnet wire always waits till just over half wound then something snags and it snaps. Looking forward to see a wall of your generators in action 👍
I modified a kite string reel winder and added a magnet for a counter. I drilled holes and installed rubber coated screws to lift the coil off the base and cut groves between these to allow room to insert the tape. Once it is securely taped, removing the screws will allow the coil to be removed from the kite reel.
LOL. When you were talking about the 32 gauge wire, I seriously thought you were saying "It's hella thin" instead of what you were actually saying which was "It's HAIR thin". lol
Hi Robert Tom Stanton last film a bicycle solution i near in size but better in output! And it's same you talk about in other episode! This is great! So I still love your works❤❣ /Mikael
I have a power coil winder with a counter wheel built in. From there, one merely needs to put on their capstan, turn the motor drive on, and when it gets to the number of turns needed, turn it off, remove the coil and repeat.
Very good design and you have made working out the wire size much easier Thanks. You make all your wind turbines single phase and I can understand that it keeps things simple for the coils but have you found a simple way to wind 3 phase coils given the advantages in lower starting torque and the ability to brake or even lock them in high winds would be very interested in your take on any method of winding them 👍
thank you mate - i have made three phase and you are right i make single phase mostly for simplicity of demonstration but three phase is just three identical coils place 120 electrical degrees apart
I've been following your recent videos with interest. I was wondering if you'd ever explored the possibility of combining a wind powered generator with a heating element. The goal being to use this as a form suplimentary heating for housing? Obviously it would never be powerful enough to heat a home, but in a well insulated building it's only about replacing lost heat. I have a small weekend cabin near Húsavík in Iceland and obviously have to keep the heating on constantly, even when it's unoccupied. But a wind powered heating system sounds an intriguing possibility. Especially as geothermal heating is not an option in that current location. I was just curious on your thoughts? But many thanks for your videos, you have some very interesting ideas.
I have - you can attach the turbine to a heater easily enough - in fact it is a standard practice - though it is usually called a dump load and is there prevent over charging of your batteries in high wind conditions - an electric heating element is really just a big resistor - put that in a bucket of sand and hey presto you have a sand battery
@@Madscientist233 Sounds good, but I'm wondering how I'd blow the air across the copper plate? Thank you for giving me food for thought, much appreciated!! 😎👍
I love the electrical generators! Now I need a way to connect them to a house and grid for power... can you recommend a hybrid inverter or something that can accept a bunch of miscellaneous power supplies and feed it into an outlet or anything like that?
@ThinkingandTinkering I looked into microinverters briefly. I was thinking that a user friendly device that could just accept any power, and all you had to do was plug it into a wall receptacle to dump the energy into the house or grid, would be an outrageous product. Maybe something like that already exists... I just haven't found it yet.
I would love to find something that I could just plug into a wall receptacle, that could take power from any generator-gadget I had (water mill, battery, or anything), and deliver it to my home, so that I can use it or save money on my electric bill. Obviously, it would have to detect the existing power, and match it, and it would be awesome if it could display how much power you were putting in. Otherwise, generating electricity is kind of difficult to use. Also, I guess it would need to be limited so that it doesn't pop a breaker.
@@benjaminwelborn8104 That would be a Fantastic device, ~ and exactly what would make generating more accessible to people like me, If you make or find something that does that, please let me know!! ( I guess the Electricians here might know if there is a device like this about?!) Something like that would make things much simpler, especially for those of us, who would like to go Off-Grid!! Kindest Regards, Andrea and Critters. ...XxX...
@@AndreaDingbatt Rod Holt's contribution to the PC is underrated. He created the pc power supply. He took one source of power (120vac), and split it into many. It's not so amazing anymore, but at the time, nobody had ever made such a thing. Now we need the inverse power supply box. Again, it's probably not complicated, but who has time?
Yes, this is an amazing video! You can 3d print or laser cut a wind turbine generator, and that coil winder is super cool. I wonder what thiswouldlook like using a Halbach array?
I would be more interested in stacking small generators as part of a wind wall, and how prevent current overfeeding single generator modules, if you have ideas for that. say each can do 10 volts at 10 mA, an I have 25 of them, i know just parallel wire runs the risk of burning wire, so how do I keep the parallel pieces apart electrically to prevent that risk?
there is no risk mate - if you have 25 at 10mA you are only going to carry a load of 250mA max on the bus - the coils for each generator are protected by a rectifier rated at 3A 1,000V - which is just a bunch of diodes - so the bus won't feed a coil - but if that worries you stick another diode between a bus line and the coil
@@ThinkingandTinkering Ok, then not for that grade at any rate, if the generators are separate by a rectifier, and I build it out to a level of several walls for full kilowatt, tho not much it would be good for a house hold emergency level, an tho that means several rectifiers, it should be a possible plan. Mostly I am considering this for light back up value, to see many small generators on win wall would be more financially feasible than a large one of similar output.
Okay, so instead of normal wind, let's say we put this out in a hurricane to generate during the storm. For that case we would need thicker wire, correct? Possibly tuned to the category number of the storm if we wanted to optimize wire thickness and number of turns???
@Madscientist233 Ah, because the speed would be too fast for the mechanics and the thing would shake itself apart? Okay, hypothetically, let's pretend that we solved the mechanical issues. For the electronics, because there is more power in the hurricane wind, would we need a thicker gauge wire?
I recently bought magnet wire sizes: 0.2mm 100m, 0.1mm 100m, 0.05mm 100m & 0.04mm 200m from China costing less than £10 Wish me luck soldering the 0.04mm wire - I'm blind as a bat lol
there is a slight compromise on the size/length of the wire due to its internal resistance. Not going to make any difference on this scale but when you get to thousands of metres length with small diameters you're going to get a considerable resistance. I know you know that, this is just for anyone thinking they can use thousands of metres of micro wire to generate a gazillion volts, there's no free lunch
@@rockyewelljr9781 Brilliant!! Thank you, I am able to titrate things by weight, ~but my mind struggles with lengths//wraps//windings. Just the way my noggin works, so Thank you very much, for your comment to Robert, you have just helped me with this last "puzzle-piece" hole in my understanding!!👍👍
was watching a yt video today called "NO WAY" Videos SO STRANGE You Won't Be Able To Explain on that impossible channel...and there you pop up at 17:55 in Cambodia pointing to an ancient carving of a steggisaurus.....
Okay, let's do something completely crazy. Because this is small enough, you can do it. Put more magnets arranged just like you did at the rear, but all the way up until you can no more and put the serpentine coils along where they need to go so you can get more output than just that one.
Hi there ! I have just filed a patent claim into the patent system of a new eletric Power generator , would you like a copy so you can build a prototype for your Channel? Let me know!
That ampacity chart is not for generator, motor or transformer windings that need air circulation to stay cool. Try the chart for "magnet wire" it's more accurate. Also that Omnicalc is for traditional hawts and doesn't say if the vawt is lift or drag. I wouldn't depend on it. Your turbine is neither traditional hawt or vawt.
That's awesome Robert. I might try that. I plan to buy a 3d printer early next year. I am looking at the larger Bambu Lab when it comes out. Currently, I'm busy designing. There is a lot to learn. I amazed and inspired by your knowledge and skills. Like most, I've thought about a wind turbine. I don't live in a windy area, unfortunately. But, the fun, learning experience and low cost make it very exciting. I always look at energy generation in terms of what I can power, but my dilemma has always been the scale and expense needed to power anything usable and how to use DIY power. For example, like most, I use mains, 240v, for everything, and I can't simply add small DIY generation to mains power. However, now, more-and-more electronics are powered by USB type-C. Second, electronics are more efficient. Thirdly, wind and solar generation have become cheaper. This opens to door to powering more with DIY scale. Alternatively, I could charge power banks. ... with a charge controller, of cause. I did think about 3d-printing a lighthouse to light up when the wind is blowing, but that's use a toy, but it would look amazing. I haven't considered the cost per watt generated. Second hand copper - recycled plastic. I bet you could get the cost down.
to be hones mate quite often it doesn't matter much what you make as long as you make something - you learn the principles and the practice of handling the components that can often cross transfer to larger scale - you seem to me to be doing exactly the right thing - all the best
@@ThinkingandTinkering Can someone confirm whether, enamelled/insulated, copper wire is needed? I'm looking for wire, but I don't want to buy the wrong sort.
Love this contraption. Definitely need to bookmark this video as with 80% of your content Rob, they are worthy of a repeat watch.
lol - cheers mate - i am quite likely to update this as it is a bit bare bones but i wanted it out before Wednesdays vidieo
This might be one of your best videos yet! I have been struggling w/ how to figure out what I can get out of a wire made into a coil, or at least, figuring out how many turns of what wire. I like the explanation of knowing the max amps that can be produced and using that as a baseline for minimum wire gauge. Makes sense....if it can only produce 1A, well, there's no need to even need to look at 16g wire. While the wire diameter doesn't have a direct relationship to voltage, it does indirectly, as you can get those extra turns because it is smaller diameter. To me, that simple example helps me understand it. I hope we get a quick test of how that coil performed vs the original.
As far as your winder, I don't know if I could redesign it to expand, I could probably figure out how to make a hub that you would then put different diameters onto. That would at least save on material as you'd only print the outside as the centers would always be the same. Of course this is a bit limited to scale....it would work great for diameters of 100mm-150mm, but probably not so much going from 10mm to 150mm!
I am really glad it helped mate - all a bit rule of thumb I know but i hope it helps folks get a grip on it - nice suggestion on the hub _ i was pondering that as I want to add a counter and you solved that problem for me - cheers
I just use two wood dowels and wind around that.
I am working on exactly that, remixing Peter's original design with Rob's new one. Hope to have it out later today, tomorrow at the latest.
Hi Robert, co-alchemist here, didnt watch your vids for a while as i was doing last few years, don't know why, but just saw this one and was so destracted with your 59-24 patti background, which is beautiful but also al lot of info to digest... i feel so (not sure what word calls it in english for feeling out of place) but thanks for keeping exploring and sharing your spirit. ty
thank you fo rtaking the time to say that mate
Great tool 👍 Are you just counting the turns on the handle to reach 1000 winding? How about adding a gear to the handle, e.g. adding a 1:10 ratio would only require to count to 100. Makes counting and accurate wires better.
But in general, thank you for all the videos you make. They are nice to watch and easy to follow. Great work
👍👍👍
This design is perfect for a hydroelectric device that I really hope I can show you some Time.
Perpetual Thangx for sharing your Mind.
i am looking forward to seeing it mate
Robert excellent thank you. It is understanding this and the poles has been on my self build mission.
i am glad it helped mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering Sorry for your friends loss Patti,
Thanks Robert from the USA, I have enjoyed your videos for many years now.. Merry Christmas! in case I don’t get to post again.
Happy holidays to you too mate
Something to think about is resistance. Thinner wire will have a greater resistance, more resistance = more loss in your coils.
I think that was the best explanation you've done yet of calculating coil wire guages. Thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice! In the 1940's my Dad's hobby was radio, and he told me he made his coil winders out of his Erector Set.
Very cool!
Thanks Robert excellent video. I would like to see how you bent it into shape after winding the 1,000 coils. Maybe something to cover in another video that uses the winding.
oh good point mate - i never thought about it as I find it easy - but now you say that it did take me a bit of time to 'get the knack'
Thank you Robert, thats very helpful and makes this easier for me to understand!!
Andrea and Critters. ...XxX...
awesome Andrea I am glad it helped
First video I've seen since you sid you were gonna focus on you for a bit. Love you RMS, can't imagine, glad to see you sharing. You're a treasure
cheers mate
Good information thankyou for sharing. Your coil winder is great. I hate winding the hair thick magnet wire always waits till just over half wound then something snags and it snaps. Looking forward to see a wall of your generators in action 👍
I know exactly what you mean mate - i have wound loads of them and they do exactly that lol
keep at it , here comes our best geni for the outback , thanks terry thanks mate
lol - cheers mate
thank you, I have been studying old German dynamo designs and was wondering how to calculate the overall turns and thickness of the wire ...
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent Sir Robert 👏
cheers mate
Great video again 😅 good to see you getting back to coil winding/generater videos, cheers
Glad you like them!
So cool! Thank you for a great explanation and for sharing your project with us.
I modified a kite string reel winder and added a magnet for a counter.
I drilled holes and installed rubber coated screws to lift the coil off the base and cut groves between these to allow room to insert the tape. Once it is securely taped, removing the screws will allow the coil to be removed from the kite reel.
nice
Great information Rob. Thank you
cheers mate
Very helpful. Thank you Robert.
Glad it was helpful!
LOL. When you were talking about the 32 gauge wire, I seriously thought you were saying "It's hella thin" instead of what you were actually saying which was "It's HAIR thin". lol
yu[ lol
Hi Robert Tom Stanton last film a bicycle solution i near in size but better in output! And it's same you talk about in other episode! This is great! So I still love your works❤❣ /Mikael
Thanks for the great video. What would the effect be to put another set of magnets on the outside of the coil as well?
tell me what you think mate
I have a power coil winder with a counter wheel built in.
From there, one merely needs to put on their capstan, turn the motor drive on, and when it gets to the number of turns needed, turn it off, remove the coil and repeat.
lol - awesome lol
Very good design and you have made working out the wire size much easier Thanks. You make all your wind turbines single phase and I can understand that it keeps things simple for the coils but have you found a simple way to wind 3 phase coils given the advantages in lower starting torque and the ability to brake or even lock them in high winds would be very interested in your take on any method of winding them 👍
thank you mate - i have made three phase and you are right i make single phase mostly for simplicity of demonstration but three phase is just three identical coils place 120 electrical degrees apart
Another excellent project. Thanks.
Thank you! Cheers!
Excellent explanations!
Glad you think so!
Thanks for posting
glad you liked it mate
Thanks Robert 👍💪✌
cheers mate
I've been following your recent videos with interest. I was wondering if you'd ever explored the possibility of combining a wind powered generator with a heating element. The goal being to use this as a form suplimentary heating for housing?
Obviously it would never be powerful enough to heat a home, but in a well insulated building it's only about replacing lost heat.
I have a small weekend cabin near Húsavík in Iceland and obviously have to keep the heating on constantly, even when it's unoccupied. But a wind powered heating system sounds an intriguing possibility.
Especially as geothermal heating is not an option in that current location.
I was just curious on your thoughts? But many thanks for your videos, you have some very interesting ideas.
How about a Sand-Battery?!
~ I'm sure that they've been covered here on this channel.
i have lol
I have - you can attach the turbine to a heater easily enough - in fact it is a standard practice - though it is usually called a dump load and is there prevent over charging of your batteries in high wind conditions - an electric heating element is really just a big resistor - put that in a bucket of sand and hey presto you have a sand battery
How about no coils? Just a bunch of magnets spinning over a sheet of copper. The copper heats up and you blow air across it to extract the heat.
@@Madscientist233 Sounds good, but I'm wondering how I'd blow the air across the copper plate?
Thank you for giving me food for thought, much appreciated!! 😎👍
I love the electrical generators! Now I need a way to connect them to a house and grid for power... can you recommend a hybrid inverter or something that can accept a bunch of miscellaneous power supplies and feed it into an outlet or anything like that?
microinverters aer becoming a big thing in solar - you might want to look at that
@ThinkingandTinkering I looked into microinverters briefly. I was thinking that a user friendly device that could just accept any power, and all you had to do was plug it into a wall receptacle to dump the energy into the house or grid, would be an outrageous product. Maybe something like that already exists... I just haven't found it yet.
I would love to find something that I could just plug into a wall receptacle, that could take power from any generator-gadget I had (water mill, battery, or anything), and deliver it to my home, so that I can use it or save money on my electric bill. Obviously, it would have to detect the existing power, and match it, and it would be awesome if it could display how much power you were putting in. Otherwise, generating electricity is kind of difficult to use. Also, I guess it would need to be limited so that it doesn't pop a breaker.
@@benjaminwelborn8104 That would be a Fantastic device,
~ and exactly what would make generating more accessible to people like me,
If you make or find something that does that, please let me know!!
( I guess the Electricians here might know if there is a device like this about?!)
Something like that would make things much simpler, especially for those of us, who would like to go Off-Grid!!
Kindest Regards,
Andrea and Critters. ...XxX...
@@AndreaDingbatt Rod Holt's contribution to the PC is underrated. He created the pc power supply. He took one source of power (120vac), and split it into many. It's not so amazing anymore, but at the time, nobody had ever made such a thing. Now we need the inverse power supply box. Again, it's probably not complicated, but who has time?
Yes, this is an amazing video! You can 3d print or laser cut a wind turbine generator, and that coil winder is super cool. I wonder what thiswouldlook like using a Halbach array?
give it a go and build one mate
Wondering if this could be used on a wind generator to change the amount of wind it can handle.
I would be more interested in stacking small generators as part of a wind wall, and how prevent current overfeeding single generator modules, if you have ideas for that. say each can do 10 volts at 10 mA, an I have 25 of them, i know just parallel wire runs the risk of burning wire, so how do I keep the parallel pieces apart electrically to prevent that risk?
there is no risk mate - if you have 25 at 10mA you are only going to carry a load of 250mA max on the bus - the coils for each generator are protected by a rectifier rated at 3A 1,000V - which is just a bunch of diodes - so the bus won't feed a coil - but if that worries you stick another diode between a bus line and the coil
@@ThinkingandTinkering Ok, then not for that grade at any rate, if the generators are separate by a rectifier, and I build it out to a level of several walls for full kilowatt, tho not much it would be good for a house hold emergency level, an tho that means several rectifiers, it should be a possible plan. Mostly I am considering this for light back up value, to see many small generators on win wall would be more financially feasible than a large one of similar output.
Okay, so instead of normal wind, let's say we put this out in a hurricane to generate during the storm. For that case we would need thicker wire, correct? Possibly tuned to the category number of the storm if we wanted to optimize wire thickness and number of turns???
In a hurricane you'd need to shut it down
@Madscientist233 Ah, because the speed would be too fast for the mechanics and the thing would shake itself apart?
Okay, hypothetically, let's pretend that we solved the mechanical issues. For the electronics, because there is more power in the hurricane wind, would we need a thicker gauge wire?
@@colleenforrest7936 Not feasible. Yes thicker wire handles more current, and won't get as hot.
that is exactly right mate
Pretty neat 👏
Glad you think so!
I recently bought magnet wire sizes: 0.2mm 100m, 0.1mm 100m, 0.05mm 100m & 0.04mm 200m from China costing less than £10
Wish me luck soldering the 0.04mm wire - I'm blind as a bat lol
i seriously hate soldering that kind of wire - i normally go over the surface with a very fine grit and cover it in flux
Can you put a link in for that wire. Having a hard time finding it in long lengths. Thanks
there is a slight compromise on the size/length of the wire due to its internal resistance. Not going to make any difference on this scale but when you get to thousands of metres length with small diameters you're going to get a considerable resistance. I know you know that, this is just for anyone thinking they can use thousands of metres of micro wire to generate a gazillion volts, there's no free lunch
very good point mate - thank you for making it
can one just make 1 or 10 wraps then weigh it and just multiply it, then no more counting wraps? do it off weight?
for sure nice one mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering thanks rob!
@@rockyewelljr9781 Brilliant!!
Thank you, I am able to titrate things by weight,
~but my mind struggles with lengths//wraps//windings.
Just the way my noggin works, so Thank you very much, for your comment to Robert,
you have just helped me with this last "puzzle-piece" hole in my understanding!!👍👍
@@AndreaDingbatt super glad i could help!
Where do you buy your copper from?
whatever random store i come across on the net mate - I can't even remember where i got that coil from
Patti looks like a lovely lady.
She really is - she is the love of my life
was watching a yt video today called "NO WAY" Videos SO STRANGE You Won't Be Able To Explain on that impossible channel...and there you pop up at 17:55 in Cambodia pointing to an ancient carving of a steggisaurus.....
oh wow - that's amazing that I am in someone else's video! I remember doing that - I was in Cambodia for a month with Patti.
Or: simplify engineering with educated guesses, ballpark experiments and standard sizings. 👍
that will work too lol
Robert Murray-Smith is getting wired up! (Sorry, it was the only pun that came to mind)
still a good one lol
👍👍
a divided vortex generator? smaller differentials as you get faster.
I have no idea what that is mate
Okay, let's do something completely crazy. Because this is small enough, you can do it. Put more magnets arranged just like you did at the rear, but all the way up until you can no more and put the serpentine coils along where they need to go so you can get more output than just that one.
go for it mate - this is really something for you to try - it's your idea
@ThinkingandTinkering right now I live in a caravan of my 3D printer is in storage but I will definitely try when I can
Hi there !
I have just filed a patent claim into the patent system of a new eletric Power generator , would you like a copy so you can build a prototype for your Channel? Let me know!
😊
cheers mate
thx
Why not just use the wire on the spool it came on?
give it a try - you will soon find out why not!
That ampacity chart is not for generator, motor or transformer windings that need air circulation to stay cool. Try the chart for "magnet wire" it's more accurate. Also that Omnicalc is for traditional hawts and doesn't say if the vawt is lift or drag. I wouldn't depend on it. Your turbine is neither traditional hawt or vawt.
cheers mate - click on the button it is for both HAWT AND VAWT
But there are many different kinds of vawt, and the calculator doesn't allow the choice. So basically ballpark numbers. How about a cycloturbine?
primitive skills youtube channel copper ore
cheers mate
That's awesome Robert. I might try that.
I plan to buy a 3d printer early next year. I am looking at the larger Bambu Lab when it comes out. Currently, I'm busy designing.
There is a lot to learn. I amazed and inspired by your knowledge and skills.
Like most, I've thought about a wind turbine. I don't live in a windy area, unfortunately. But, the fun, learning experience and low cost make it very exciting.
I always look at energy generation in terms of what I can power, but my dilemma has always been the scale and expense needed to power anything usable and how to use DIY power. For example, like most, I use mains, 240v, for everything, and I can't simply add small DIY generation to mains power.
However, now, more-and-more electronics are powered by USB type-C. Second, electronics are more efficient. Thirdly, wind and solar generation have become cheaper. This opens to door to powering more with DIY scale. Alternatively, I could charge power banks. ... with a charge controller, of cause.
I did think about 3d-printing a lighthouse to light up when the wind is blowing, but that's use a toy, but it would look amazing.
I haven't considered the cost per watt generated. Second hand copper - recycled plastic. I bet you could get the cost down.
to be hones mate quite often it doesn't matter much what you make as long as you make something - you learn the principles and the practice of handling the components that can often cross transfer to larger scale - you seem to me to be doing exactly the right thing - all the best
@@ThinkingandTinkering Can someone confirm whether, enamelled/insulated, copper wire is needed? I'm looking for wire, but I don't want to buy the wrong sort.
I remember that you were using graphene as a conductor- could you paint on & insulate & use similarly- cut into “wire “
no i am afraid not - the resistance is too high
@ well damn 😜- still think shapes are important 👍🏻
Also möbius type graphene strips twisted then wrapped
What could be done with “too much” resistance?
With insulation ? Got to be a way
well if you have any go for it
Anti insulate lol ?
sorry mate - i don't understand
@@ThinkingandTinkering i was half joking about finding a way to utilize resistance