Prepping With Canned Food For Survival: Outdated!
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- Prepping with Canned Foods for your family's survival? What happens if the SHTF event you are prepping for doesn't happen until some of the Survival Food in your Prepper Pantry has expired or is past it's Best Buy date?
In this video I am going to open, cook , and eat a can of soup that has expired by 5 years. Meaning I have had this can in storage for at least seven years.
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The biggest difference is 5 years ago that soup cost 98cents and today the same can cost $1.98.
Closer to $5 where I'm at. A can of Bush's beans is $3. Better investment than gold/silver!
Most Campbell soups are full of GMOs. Honestly I wouldn't eat any of it.
That’s what happens when tax & spend politicians keep printing pieces of paper that destroy the value of both your current paycheck, and worse yet, your life savings. It’s called Bidenomics.
@earl7793 It’s only “free” for those leeching off the taxpayers. People earning their living have to pay for it.
I want a SNAP card. Oh I forget, I've worked for all my food.
When I was a kid, back in the 60s, we never worried about expiration dates (there were none). My mother always checked for swelling before opening cans. That was about the only expiration date we had. We always had great dinners!
Yeah honestly a can of food that's gone bad should be blatantly obvious. Unless you are unlucky and ate it just as it was compromised.
I was also a child of the 60's....but my mother was a terrible cook. I always felt cheated by other kids that used to brag that their mothers' were the best cooks.
By the time I was about 10, I was the one doing all the cooking for the family (I was the oldest). I don't know or remember if it was good or not - but everyone
ate it without any complaints or illness. By the time I was in high school, I was a cook at the local I.H.O.P.
I'll bet your mom didn't throw away any frozen meats that had frost on them either did she
You should definitely wait just a few more minutes until you try it; geez.
@@shmodzillalol it doesn't go bad if the can is sealed.
I’ve done some experiments with canned foods. I’ve found the pull tops do go bad faster than the traditional cans.
More than likely because of the construction of the top. To be a pull top the metal has to be cut, do you can pull it off, and resealed with plastic. On a REAL metal can, it is sealed metal to metal!
No such thing as "Expiration" dates. They are "use by" or "sell by" or "freshest by" dates. Food doesn't instantly go bad on that date. Again, use your COMMON SENSE people. If your sealed canned goods have lost their seal (the can or jar would be leaking), or bulging if there is spoilage. Or, if you open it, and it smells bad or has mold, definitely throw it out. Long term stored canned goods can lose or have altered flavor, but will not harm you!
@@carrier7399 Just what my Grandmother, who was born BEFORE 1900 taught me! And she lived to be 90+!
Finding cans with the old style lids is getting harder and harder
It helps a little if they aren't stacked. Lay them on their sides in a can holder or an empty soda box.
Recently, I found a misplaced can of regular Spam. It's expiration date was in 2008. It is now 15 years later. The can was intact and the product looked and smelled good...so I fried some and tasted it. I didn't open a new can and do a side-by-side, but it tasted just like Spam is supposed to taste and caused no digestive problems later!
Thank the Lord canned food if stored properly lasts a long time(minus acidic foods).
I’ve found that Spam lasts virtually forever 👍🏻
I HAVE HEARD THAT THE SHELF LIFE OF A CAN OF SPAM IS 500-1000 YEARS, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN WRONG STORING SPAM FOR AS LONG AS YOU WANT.
@@gman9033 LOL, well, that should serve us ALL for years.
@@davek5027spam is the equivalent of a Twinkie. 😂
When I was in Viet Nam, we had canned food from Korea and earlier. There's nothing bad about any of it. The idea of putting expiration dates on canned food was a marketing ploy to get people to buy more stuff. That's it. I still eat food with old dates. After 3/4 of a century, I'm still going strong.
I bought a big SALT container, and it had an expiration date on it!😆😆It said the SALT would expire in 3 years!😜😜😜 Too Funny.
@@sterling557salt can definitely lose it's saltiness. Ever read the Bible?
Welcome home brother. Do you remember the can's of ham and m'fer's? Not to mention the John Wayne crackers.
They used to radiate C-Rats before sealing them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Pretty sure they DO NOT DO THAT NOW.
Hey brother, when I was in Nam my earliest C rats was dated 1939
Campbells changed the recipe of that soup a few years ago. I've been eating this type of soup for a while....the color is definitely different now.
Thank you for the video. I stocked up on soup in 2020 and was just wondering how long it would actually last😊
Pre coronavirus... Vs.. post coronavirus ..lots of things changed
I remember that they changed the recipe. I prefer the original version.
oh so you were one of the assholes that went in and panicked bought all the food and toilet paper so that other people couldn't get anything....nice job, we had food shortages around here only because of people like you.
everything has changed in last 15 years. Cereal is mostly bio engineered products. Crap
@@liftme225 You ever come across a food that you haven't had since you were a kid and think "this tasted better when I was 7?" It's not that your tastes buds changed. It's the recipe is changed (or like you said they used that GMO crap).
The older soup was made with better quality ingredients. I've noticed this difference in other brands of cream soups
I would agree with you, The older can looked way better than the New Can. I eaten soups several years old and had no problems of course use common sense, smell, look and taste are always your best bet !! Never eat anything in a can that is deformed. Most likely got air in the can and renders No good. Yes many Companies now have been using cheaper things now a days from what I've been hearing. Anything acetic like tomato base products in a can don't hold up well long term, I usually don't go past a year on best buy date, the color at least for me turns very dark red. I had chicken soups, NOT Cream soup like this one, eaten 7 years past date and totally fine.
I was gonna say the same thing. There's probably more preservatives in the newer batch and different ingredients slightly. Along with the bio engineered foods that are added to the new can
Agree campbless got cheaper
Less watered down too...
Agreed!
The difference in taste, smell and appearance is because they change the recipe. Also you can see the older can is a little bigger.
Informative.
Shrinkflation.
Do U Love it ? 🙄
Yeah I noticed that too. I thought I was crazy swearing the cans of soup used to be larger, but I was right.
@@root1657 You will eat nothing and you will be happy - WEF (probably)
I learned a trick to help the cans not rust. We have a basement pantry but it is damp. We periodically dehumidify it. I coat the top and bottom with a light coat of mineral oil. Works good.
I buy a LOT of salvage groceries at various Amish and non-Amish stores and I am NOT afraid of "out of date" canned goods.What I would have liked to see you do is to compare the ingredients on each of the labels. So many companies are changing their recipes to cut costs.
On of the sad things is that food banks will not accept canned goods that are past date. So when I have a bunch of them, I will stand out in the parking lot with my trunk open and a large sign that says "FREE FOOD." The food will be gone in 15 minutes. When I tell them that the food is out of date, the standard response is "so what."
I was just thinking that some of the color difference could be an actual change to ingredients/recipe.
another possible reason for taste/color difference (as well as freezing which the older can showed signs of.) i have about 70 cans of chili that turned more pink after a freeze. grainy texture but tasted the same and cooking fixed the texture. its just pink now
@@hellannthefirst5529 Perfect answer
To perhaps see the differences, check the ingredients lists and see what may have changed in 7 years
Do U Love it ? 🙄
It's all so littered with preservatives and trash now
When I was in the Marine Corp back in the 70s we were still given C-Rats from ww2 , they were still good in 1978
You should have compared ingredients to see what changed. They are always looking for a cheaper option.
I would've love to know the difference bcus we know how they change up on the recipes but up the price.
Everyone is cheating out and going with soy oil which is very low grade in taste and cooking. I guess soy is kosher because the Challah bread I got for years was made with olive oil but now it’s made with soy. Yes the taste and texture with soy made the bread less pleasant to eat
Usually that will fall under "natural and artificial flavors." They won't specify that stuff.
That's a good idea, he probably didn't think about it.
The newer cans say bio- engineered ingredients...🫤
I had a can of corned beef hash elude me to a tad over 10 years past date. I was skeptical, but opened it and it was just fine. I'm not a CBH expert, so maybe it wasn't as good as new, but it tasted OK and filled my belly. Can't ask for much more than that.
Agreed it's a possibility those can's can be okay after the date!! And I've been lucky and done the same ⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️ But I wouldn't rely on it sweetie ⁉️⁉️⁉️
@@kimnielsenthewordyvikingett159 Even the FDA says canned stuff should be good for decades.
I think it depends on how it is stored, I Had some Libby's corned beef hash that was a year past the best date. It had been kept in a non climate controlled pantry, Temps up to 100 degrees in summer. Opened it up and the top 1/4 was gray! 😲 It went in the trash!!
I ate a can if tuna that was 7 years out of date and UT was fine
@@kimnielsenthewordyvikingett159Sweetie...the U S D A w e b s i t e itself even admits it's a $cam. Use your eyes, nose, and brain and you'll be OK.
Rusted and bulged cans should probably get tossed. Dented can be ok as long as it passes the "senses" test. Stored properly, shelf stable foods (hmm wonder why it's called that) will last years, even decades.
Stop living in fear. That's what They want you to do.
When my grandmother passed she has loads of canned goods as she lived during the depression so she was always well stocked up. This was the mid 70’s she passed. Well I had canned goods for years, and no dates on cans. Seems they have us all paranoid with the expiration dates.
Its not expiration dates, its best by.
@@1qas23 yes and that started in 70’s with food. I was probably eating really old canned food and it was fine! I’m here 45 years later lol
They want us to use them or toss them, and buy more!
@@1qas23Please….
As long as the can isn't swelled at the ends the food should be good, i have had green beans that were caned 15 to 20 years old and were still good. The only difference was the texture was just a bjt softer than what i was used to. Plus if you're hungry you'll eat it.
Damn what did those green beans do to deserve being caned? 😓
@@secularargument there were to many to eat at one sitting. Lol
there was a time when i was homeless, and i ate green beans that were at least that old, because it was all i had. i never got sick from them
There are so many reasons and it's mostly to do with insurance and to get customers to only buy in date canned food - force the supermarket to flick the out of date items - so forced consumption.
When my family and I used to go camping in the 1970s, we often had C-rations from the 1950s. We never had any problems. As long as the can isn’t damaged, it should be good. Also, the newer soup may have a slightly different recipe than the old one.
Yes ..... I have experience with the old C-rations and K-rations..... C-rations as I recall longtime stored in the warehouses from WW2-1970s.....they were just fine....cigarettes,matches,etc were all just fine too.....our cigs were Kent and Chesterfield King..... cannot find other guys who had those brand cigarettes.....let me know if you find another old codger that had those cigs in his rations ..... thanks
My friend was in Nam he said they ate WW2 rations a lot🤷🏻♂️
We were in a devastating flood in Alaska in 1967. The army brought us C Rations stamped 1942. We ate them. It was that or starve. No one got sick
The nose knows, it these situations
In viet Nam they were not world War ll, they were 1948+. And the reason why was that the older stuff was eaten in Korea.
Viet Nam our government was charging itself for new and using up all the old stuff first.
Japanese invasion was predicted to last 3 years so the vendor signed a contract with the government and the government couldn't get out of the contract so they just kept producing the product to stabilize the economy.
When the price of milk dropped in the 60s and 70s the family farm failed and by the 1980s went into foreclosure.
The big corporations bought up the land and the little guy with less than 600 acres starved or sold out to the real estate con men.
I'm a 65 year old woman who has been eating "expired" and past use by dated canned foods most of my life. Absolutely no problems yet. I never told my kids or grandkids or anyone when I used these products. No one ever got sick. My pumpkin pies this year were made with 7 years outdated evaporated milk someone gave me. Looked darker but the pies were delicious. I don't do high acidity foods like tomatoes or fruits, though.
Be careful with expired cream products also
@@storvex3526 What type of cream products? Like creamed soup or refrigerated cream?
Any creamed dairy products, be careful botulism has no taste no smell and you can’t see it so be careful. The only thing you can see is if the can is swollen dump it definitely bad.
@@justnana2256 Im thinking he's meaning dairy ect.
Hey Nana hope you're doing well I hate that you cannot enjoy spaghettis so I'm going to share a trick that I was taught by a tiny precious and very dear to my heart Sicilian woman who used a step stool to get to her stove. Just put a pinch of baking soda in your sauce and you will watch the acidity boil out like one of those fun high School volcanoes not too much it'll make it salty you don't want that just the fingers pinch stir it in there and watch it boil the heartburn out. I have made spaghetti sauces that were so good I've caught people drinking it out of the pot once it was empty with ladles questioning why does my stomach not hurt, why do I not have heartburn? Other than the fact that I'm magical and have super powers. I use baking soda.
Isn’t the only “test” that matters is if you felt sick to the stomach later on or if you got sick the next couple of days?
This did happen to our family. Someone gave us some Progresso chicken soups that were outdated by about seven years. Three people in the family tried it, and we all felt sick in the belly by the next day. One of my sons had diarrhea for a week. So, I say canned meat products absolutely can be spoiled if long outdated - and still taste almost normal.
What a great video! Last year while going through the garage, I found three boxes of BBQ Beef Hamburger Helper with pinwheel macaroni, the expiration dates on them were 1999. My husband loved the stuff and I always bought extras don't know how it ended up in storage in the garage. They quit making it years ago, replacing it with a Honey BBQ flavor that isn't as good. For the fun of it, I took it and cooked it, replacing the pinwheel macaroni (which looked normal) with fresh elbow macaroni. The powder in the envelope looked fine and smelt like it was new! Husband came home and smelt it and said "holy shit BBQ Beef?" Showed it to him and we laughed like hell. Took a bite and it was delicious, my husband ate a whole plate of it and didn't get sick. Amazing!
I tried a ramen noodle package out of date by 4 years and the noodles tasted stale, edible but not great. I tried the same thing with 4 years out of date rotinni noodles. Tasted unpleasant and stale. Would be OK if starving I guess.
@@wethen5480 some things just do not store well.
Me and a friend ate a can of military issued navy bean soup that his grandpa had brought home from the service in 1942. We were about 16 at the time and we are still alive lol.
May I ask what year was it when you were 16?
I ate canned foods in Viet Nam that were twenty-seven years and older. Most were dated 1944 and this was in 1971. Vienna sausages and beanie weenies came with a can of alcohol to warm them up in the can.
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Where did the old cans of food come from who sent them to you to eat. I don't doubt you but I know they didn't have dates back in those days I'm 66 and I do remember no expiration dates on the cans. I don't think where I lived we could have found any cans that old.
It makes me mad if it was the government that sent you that food to think that they gave you the worst that they possibly could have Burns me up
WOW!! 27years old? Wow!!!
Lol when I was in boot camp in 77 we had c- rats that were made during ww 11 also. I found a long blond hair in one that was perfectly preserved
I pulled a can of chunky soup from the pantry at my kids moms aunts house one time, opened it and started eating it right out of the can. My kids mom comes in the kitchen and tells me to check the dates on anything I pull out of the pantry because a lot of it has been sitting in there for years. I checked the date and she was right. It was 5 years old. I couldn't even tell.
Was that before band camp?
I know as a kid supermarkets used to sell dented cans with no labels. With a good guess which I was apparently half decent at one could get tuna or beans for a fair price. I thought it was a lost art till I was homeless in my teen years and I'd find outdated cans with no labels. I ate plenty of out dated cans and never had an issue as long as the rust isn't in the can! Even hard dry bread is edible, soak it in beans or soup and it's just fine. Just all the Westernized nations have had it so good for so long most don't know hunger, so fortunate and unaware of how lucky they are! How can one live so blind and their biggest issue is wether they're a boy or girl and still be unappreciative of how good they have it! When you can afford 7 dollar coffees and wear brand name clothes you have literally nothing to complaing about in life. But that's just my opinion!
A tip on preparing your canned food for storage is to spray the top and bottom of the can with clear lacquer. This will stop the rust completely. I have cans that are 20+ years old that look new.
Great tip!
Are they still ok to eat being 20plus years old ?
@@benallmark9671 Should be. If the can is damaged or swollen, don't eat. Keep out of direct sunlight. Essentially, cans are like c- rations from years ago. My older brother ate a 1955 c-rat in 1982. Can appeared fine. Didn't smell bad when opened. No issues.
@@saxonsoldier67 Steve the MRE guy has eaten canned foods from 80+ years ago.
Great idea 💡 👍
One thing I include in my prep shelves is condiments and spices. You can always spice up canned items if you have spices. Salt, pepper, etc.
And always remember, wars were fought over spices in the past. When the almighty dollar becomes obsolete, spices and precious stones will be the most valuable currency.
And those too will be controlled by immoral bankers that will use it to destroy society just like any other currency
Damn good point @@sgt.lincolnosiris4111
You have to remember these two cans came from different batches of soup so they could have changed the recipe a little bit !!!
I believe the newer soup color is darker due to the preservatives and coloring additives that were used…hope that helps
Maybe flavor enhancers too?
Pretty sure that is the difference between older generations and millennials....the older generations were made with better ingredients👍😋
And the bio-engineered crap they added. 🤷🏼♀️
With the high inflation, I'll bet the recipe has changed. That would be an interesting comparison.
Campbell's tomato soup changed. I compared an older can to a new one. The new receipe has one less tomato per can and some filler ingrédients.
More bugs less mystery meat
And the taste has changed for the new recipe, not good anymore. Not going to buy the new Campbell's soup.
You won't lose any money on that bet. Just about everything is smaller, less quality and more expensive.
Thank you for doing that taste test! We have a lot of old canned goods and I've been worried about them. You've eased my mind!
Did you compare the ingredients and nutritional labels of those soups?
Perhaps the new can now has more flavour enhancers. Be interesting to compare the ingredients listing on each can.
Bio engineering ingredients to start.
Natural flavors can hav a list of over 100 chemicals in it
More MSG, the king of flavour.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 MSG - makes stuff good.
odds are that the old can has less chemical additives in it. They are always looking for ways to make foods less healthy and with more addictive materials so you will buy their products. better to can your own foods if you are going to.
Good job, its the freshness date, not out of date, you proved a valuable point, if its not rusted through, swollen, burps when its opened, stinks or tastes bad its more than likely safe to eat.
I think the difference in colors is because not just because of the year difference but recipes seem to change because companies seem to think that it's okay to skimp on their products from time to time so that's probably where the color difference is coming into, not just the age because you can buy can of something and it'll be different from one year to the next. Or from store to store in different states.
Even things like Doritos.. the big bags taste different from the small multi packs. Maybe different packaging plants, where things aren't exactly the same?
The bug hadn’t eaten much - you had me rolling!!
So each batch of soup is frequently made in a different factory. So there will always be small differences in flavor between different factories. The factories follow the recipe, but they use different sources for the ingredients and they use different kitchen equipment and methods. So there will always be small differences in color, smell and flavor. I spend 9 years in the grocery industry, working for the company that canned the most canned goods for brands like Demonte. The company I worked for owned the farms, the factories, and a quarter of the grocery stores, and they canned both generics and brand names, farm to sales floor, the brands on the cans had nothing to do with who made the cans. We were not the only company that owned factories, and Delmonte was packed in all of them. Green beans from one factory looked, smelled and tasted different than green beans in another factory... But the differences are small, and you would only notice if you put them side by side. Colors might change because of soil, specific source of seed, method of harvest, etc. So visual, smell , taste, texture will vary from factory to factory and batch to batch. To do a direct comparison, you can expect these differences.
I think the real question is food safety. For food safety we need to analyze the food for contamination from the can, the can liner, and any pathogens. The food should be analyzed for other forms of decomposition, loss of nutrition, formation of new chemicals that might not be safe, etc... I think you would need to have the can analyzed, along with the food. In general, if the can liner does it's job, decomposition of the nutritional value is the main issue, and I'm not sure 5 years is a long enough time for that to be a problem in a dark space inside a can. Jars will show more decomp, as light will trigger many chemical changes... So keep your pantry dark if you are canning in glass, light is the enemy there.
Back in the mid 90's I called Del Monte foods to ask about the dates on the cans. This was due to Y2K and putting a few extra things back besides what we normally have. They were very friendly and answered all my questions.
She said the deal with the expiration dates has to do with meeting the FDA regulations as far as the nutritional value per serving on the label. She said that they were allowed a 2% difference between the label and what was actually in the can. So, the expiration date on the can is the point where the nutritional value inside the can, is not within the 2% regulation of what's on the label.
The food is fine, but the nutritional value is not what the label says.
She said so if a serving is 200 calories, after the expiration date it may only be 196 calories and while the food has not expired, the info on the label has. She went on to say that as long as the can it not bulging or puking food when you open it, or a really bad smell, the food is safe to eat.
She said storing the cans in a cool or cold place really extends the dates on the cans, but they have to go with what normal people do, and that is store cans in a hot kitchen, not a cool basement. She also said that if the cans are kept stored in the warmer kitchen, you'll generally see a 1% - 2% per YEAR of nutritional loss, but again, storage is key to slow that loss.
She also pointed out that acidic foods like tomatoes and pineapple or orange's, they tend to really have an off taste just a couple years after the expiration date, but are still safe to eat if you had too, as long as the cans have not started rusting from the inside, or bulging or puking food when opened. She said if possible, do not let these types of food go more than a year or two past the expiration date and store in a cool place. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for the info.
The lady gave you good information. The only thing I would add is that we saw a lot of rust on the outside of the can. I would check the inside carefully to make certain none of that rusted clear through to the contents. Even if you have to wash the inside of the can before eating the soup, make sure you aren't eating rust.
@deannajuhl8347 ok this may be a stupid question, but how would you wash the inside of the can if it has food in it?
Ok, I would empty the can of soup into the pan I intend to warm it up in, then swish the can in water to examine it and make sure there is no rust on the inside of the can.@@giraffesareselfish9563
@@giraffesareselfish9563 Sweetheart I'm pretty sure that person that mentioned washing out the can meant after one has emptied the contents into a preferred preparation container and then washing it out to see if there's anything harmful such as rust!!!
I would have liked to see the ingredient labels and the nutrition facts panel on both cans to compare the two.
Even if the exact same ingredients are present, they might be in slightly different proportions. Also the manufacturer might be using different processes that could affect the taste.
@@JohnSmith-qi6co That's a good point, but without comparing the two labels, we can't say for sure. As you suggest, a subtle difference may not appear on the label, but if the labels ARE different...well, there you go.
My experience with outdated canned goods in my earthquake kit here in Washington state was that the name brands (Del Monte, Campbells etc.) faired better than the off brands such as Kroger for example. I always purchased undamaged cans and stored them in a cool environment. Some cans were 9 years old and a small percentage of the old off brands were like black molasses. Bottom line is that of those cans aged up to 6 years, they were certainly edible in my opinion. As you discovered, flavors might not be crisp but the canned food was edible.
Mark
Once about a decade ago I ate a can of Hormel chili with beans that was 13 years past the expired date. Aside from the slightly metallic taste, I had no ill effects.
I had a whole box of Hormel canned chili no beans that sat in the garage for 6 years. Tasted fine and didn't make me sick.
@@dualismdeeperlaws2430 said the grasshopper to the ant.
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You should read more. It’s a reference to one of “Aesop's Fables” that any normally educated person would have immediately spotted as such.
I find if it is tomato based or having something similar in it, it will take on the can taste. I think it is leaching the can lining. Cream base, I have not noticed that.
For long term storage, you would be better off keeping the vegetables separate in vacuum packed bags, possibly freeze dried. You could make the canned soups from a powdered milk, and a few other ingredients that would last on your shelf for 20+ years without degrading in nutritional value.
A #10 can of freeze dried mushrooms lasts over 30 years. Between that and powdered milk, and some dried onions, you have cream of mushroom soup which is the base for a lot of meals. (Beef stroganoff, creamed chipped beef/SOS, tuna casserole...) Don't waste your money on Campbells. Learn how to cook your own meals.
I have cut down on salt, sugar so much that I can't stand to eat many canned foods because it's way too salty for my taste! I would think that the salt content would help in preserving the soup, but I'm not an expert.
Yeah I know what you mean I'm supposed to cut down on salt and so now things taste too salty for me but the low-salt soups taste yucky so I'm not going to eat them anyway it's been so hot here that I can tell I'm craving more salt so I am having more salt in my diet but I'm really supposed to have potassium chloride I have congestive heart failure
Freeze drying is awesome. If you can afford the equipment to do so. If not I recomend the old fashion way with glass jars and canning. When your cans are cool spray the metal lids with shellac. They will prevent everything from rusting. I recently had some canned venison that my mother put away back in 1994. She put it in a pasta sauce and it was amazing.
Freeze drying is expensive
I love the dry Manishevitz soups and I store them in air tight containers. You can add extra ingredients when you cook them. The flavors include split pea, minestrone, lentil, bean, etc. and include a seasoning packet. They cost about $2.99 now. In The 70’s they were 50 cents. I always had a variety of them in my kitchen cabinet. You find them in the ethnic section of your grocery store or online.
😊If soup is what you want to save for emergency/prepping ~ it is probably better to buy a dry soup mix like Bear Creek. 👍This dry soup mix will last for many years, I put bags of this stuff in zip lock bags and then into 5 gallon buckets. 🤣I mix the bucket up by adding some of the Knorr rice & pasta sides as well as some of the Idahoan dry instant potatatoes ~ great long term emergency food supply. Great video, there are other canned goods that this video relates to like tuna fish and canned meats and vegatables.
But when you have to go knock off your neighbor and steal their supplies and all they have are canned goods, this is a good video to have watched
I wrote the book"The Preppers" several years ago. Part of the research I did for the book was to contact Hormel Foods, to find out directly from them how long Spam could last in storage. I talked to 4 people. The last person was upper-management and after explaining to him I was writing a book about prepping, he said," Honest to God, we don't know. It's produced to be consumed, not for long-term storage." I've been a pepper , storing canned goods since 1978. Buy what you will eat and rotate your canned goods. Cans have radically changed the last few years. The seal of quick pull-tab lids are easily broken if dropped. I have had no problems with them. I do not stack cans very high. I keep a powerful flashlight next to my storage and every so often, I carefully inspect between the rows of cans for any leakage. Keep in mind that your food storage is the same as buying an insurance policy. All of us shell out many dollars for home, health and auto policies every year, that most of us never need. Look at your stock of canned food the same way. It's not money wasted. You'll sleep well. One other note: The only canned food that ever went bad on me was canned sauerkraut. The metal cans burst through after a year . Aldi sells German sauerkraut in glass jars. Solves the acid problem.
hormel states on their website...all products have indefinite shelf life..because of their processing
The only canned product I ever had that developed a leak was a can of mandarine oranges. I can only assume that somehow the sugar fermented and burst the seam of the can.
Aldi sauerkraut is excellent, all I use
This is true!! I had a case of Progresso Clam Chowder (I know Clams!!) expired 7 years - I ate all 12 cans over two months-Still great!!
In my experience, the older a canned good gets, the lighter the color. No idea why that is, but it's common. I've had a can of cherries 12 years past expiration that barely had any color at all, but it was still good. The cherry pie looked ridiculous, but it was still edible.
Could be separation of ingredients.🤷🏻♀️
THE PIE LOOKED "RED"ICULOUS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
The color and taste difference is probably due to the fact they probably use more real cream in the older one and more preservatives spices and such in the newer one. You should do it again, holding one from now for five years.
I was always told that when stocking up on canned or other goods, always pick the ones that have a best before, rather than a use by, as they will keep much longer.
Thanks for the info!
I've got a lot of the CAMPBELLS CHUNKY SOUPS stored for a few years now. I JUST had 2 go bad from leakage. They got turned upside down onto the lids, and the rolled/crimped seam seems to have finally given up and leaked. So be careful HOW you store them, and keep them upright ! Great video !
That is an important point. Cans are made to be stored crimp up.
Bisphenol A (BPA), Canned goods are lined with BPA, It's a very thin plastic coating in the can, over time it does break down into the food. That's why you never cook canned food in the can. Just a heads up for people who don't know this. Great video by the way.
I think we're good. Most companies haven't used BPA in canning for almost a decade.
@@Ravenous1990 Yes, they replaced BPA with totally "safe" alternatives. Don't look up acrylic resins, polyesters, or PVC can liners.
@@rootuser7206 you're info is 6-7 years out of date my friend. Most major food and beverage canning facilities have been using TMBPF since 2016-17. All of the data is public on Sherwin-williams' website.
Now they use fentanyl lining
@@rootuser7206 Theres more chance of you dying of a heart attack worrying about what plastic might kill you than the plastic itself. Remember, nobody gets out of life alive.
Differences : color, smell, texture, flavor, I’m guessing is from recipe changes over time. What I would have shown was the can inside and lid after washing good. To see if the can holds its integrity and if there is any evidence of corrosion, breakdown.
Good job over all ! Thanks. I consume many canned items well after their posted due date.
Bon Appetit.
In the mid to late 80's I ate plenty of the old c-rations that were canned in the 40's. A lot of it wasn't what I would consider tasty, (It wasn't that tasty when they put it in the can lol) but it hadn't gone bad, and it was still nutritious.
Why? 40 years later they were your best and most economic choice?
Because I was in the Army National Guard and we got Regular Army leftovers. We also got stuck using WW2 81mm white phosphorus motor rounds in training. Had to handle lots of misfires
In 2020, I came across a 22 year-old can of salmon. It was the last of my Y2K stock. Upon opening it, it smelled, looked, and seemed perfectly fine. I tested the water with a chemical testing strip, and everything came back normal. It had been stored at room temperature, between 40ºF and 80ºF for all those years. And I imagine it would have been just fine to eat it.
CHICKEN,YA SHOULDA 8 IT
What did you learn from Y2k? lol
The "oldest" food I had was 15 year expired candy. It was fine. My ex's family a long time ago had a grocery store. They closed down but had some inventory left, canned goods, grains, candy. All were fine at least 4 years after expiration. Chocolate didn't look good, but taste was same.
My grandma grew up on a farm and we ate home canned beef roast that was years old. Needed a little salt, but it was fine.
Had some Libby's corned beef hash that was a year past the best date. It had been kept in a non climate controlled pantry, Temps up to 100 degrees in summer. Opened it up and the top 1/4 was gray! 😲 It went in the trash!!
Bummer!
Yeah no doubt,no secret heat is the enemy of food regardless of how it's packaged. I free dry my own food and have quite a bit made. I decided to relocate and knew it might be awhile, almost 3 years now so I'm glad i made the decision to spend the bit of extra money on climate control storage.
You could have given it to a hobo.
@@oldironsides4107 that's not cool. What did the poor do to hurt you? Hope you don't get there.
Five years is long time in the food business. Mainly because in that time, they could have changed can manufacturers, hence the interior color change. And as some others have stated, the recipe could have been changed “improved”. But I agree, only slight differences. And also why I keep a decent supply of spices.
When you opened the cans I saw one of them was yellow and I thought
"Yeah that probably smells rancid, no way it's still good"
But the yellow one was the new one! It blew my mind.
I thought the same thing 😂
Flavors may vary by batch and seasoning proportions.
As long as the can is in tact, you can add some seasoning back to it. There can be a loss of taste in outdated foods, but it could still be utilized in a pinch.
The older can looked way better than the New Can. I eaten soups several years old and had no problems of course use common sense, smell, look and taste are always your best bet !! Never eat anything in a can that is deformed. Most likely got air in the can and renders No good. Yes many Companies now have been using cheaper things now a days from what I've been hearing. Anything acetic like tomato base products in a can don't hold up well long term, I usually don't go past a year on best buy date, the color at least for me turns very dark red. I had chicken soups, NOT Cream soup like this one, eaten 7 years past date and totally fine.
I can offer some possible insight into the difference in coloration that might not be related to the age. I used to work at a dairy. During the yearly cycle of milk production, due to the natural progression of grazing material cow's milk will vary greatly in color and texture. Fresh Spring grass will typically lead to a butterfat which is more yellowish in color. As the seasons progress the butterfat steadily becomes lighter in color. Almost white. Also there IS a definite subtle affect on flavor of all dairy depending on regional grazing fodder.
Properly stored, canned food will last a VERY long time.
Canned food wit tomato in it will get a little bit different taste but it wont kill you.
That is due to the acidity in the tomato
This is true of certain foods, but some are more prone to botulism than others. You can typically see expansion of cans when this has occurred, but I would be wary of eating any fish and low-acid vegatables much past their expiration date, as they are known to be especially prone to botulism even when canned properly.
Canned food is good indefinitely as long as the can is not damaged or bulging. Might not taste as good after the expiry date but it's still safe to eat generally.
Just watch out for maggots.
@@thetippingpoint172 how would there be maggots?
@@heatherrose3554 Don't know. Gave some old cans to my sister and later on she told me everything got thrown out cause she opened one and there was maggots in it.
Not true
@@gfriedman99If it was an airtight sealed can it’s impossible. It literally would be the Holy Mary Mother of Cans that immaculately conceived fly larvae. If the larvae were long dead then they could have just been part of the original packaging process collateral.
I did this with a 10 year old can of Chunky. It came out as a single gelatinous block, had notes of oak and earth and excellent with fresh sourdough bread.
Whenever I take any can out of the cupboard, after glancing at the expire date, I check to see if the top pops or just gives at all and I give a quick scan for rust, tiny holes and leaks. (I won't buy a dented can in the store.) I double check these things if the can is past expiration. Just a month ago I opened the cupboard to find a huge mess. Apparently, a can of spaghetti sauce, with a pop top, had a broken seal, had fermented and exploded. I notice your soup cans were pop top, but if I might suggest, if putting cans in your survival gear don't use pop top cans as they seem to have a weaker seal or the seal is more easily damaged. Get regular cans and a can opener.
I'm not a prepper but always thought rotating one's stored canned & dried goods was wise. I keep just a few weeks worth of emergency goods and rotate out continually. The USDA link you provided has a link in it called "Shelf-Stable Food Safety" that has some very good info for preppers doing long term storage.
That was my thought. If you prep with what you normal eat, you just rotate cans out. Very easy to do. I use colored dot stickers with just the month & year date. Makes it easy to visualize which can to use next if you have cans crammed into a small space.
Even slight differences in the flour used or other items can sometimes make a visual difference. Thanks for the show! (I ate a huge can of Albacore recently. It was a 6lb can and both the taste and texture seemed as fresh as any just bought. The can was from 2018 I think from a case purchase and made wonderful salads and dishes I added it to all week. )
It would be interesting to compare the ingredients as maybe the recipe had changed over time.
A pile of rice with a can of chunky soup over it is a good meal.
As long as it’s stored right, canned foods last for decades. As long as the can isn’t swollen or leaking, it’s good to go. The only exception might be canned fruits, which are more acidic.
When I was a kid we were care taking an old farm and found some giant cans of peaches. They were 12 years old and rusty but still sealed. Best peaches ever and I'm still alive to tell the tale.
I don’t think the color difference is because of the age I think it’s because of the Ingredients are a little different between the new can and the old can
It's the same for canned jars, too. As long as there's no swelling, foul smell, damage, rust, etc the food is generally safe to eat. Still loses nutrition over time.
Did you check the ingredients label? Newer foods are higher sodium and food colored
I wonder if the ingredients have changed between the 2 and it would have been interesting to compare that along with the nutritional value
A 'Best before' date isn't the same as a Used By date and is not a expiration date.
Even after something has passed it's Best Before date it is still safe to eat as long as the can isn't damaged, it just means it may have lost some flavour or nutrients.
A 'Used By' date means it is no longer safe to eat after that date, like milk and dairy products.
Maybe the labelling is different in the US than Australia. 🇦🇺
Thank you for your video.
I just hauled an old dented can of Cream of Tomato soup out of storage marked FB for Food Bank. It was years past its BBD.
I open the can, do the smell and look test, then dump it into a bowl to rinse out the can and inspect it for corruption.
I'm happy to say this can passed all inspection and went well with supper.
Keep up the great work and good luck.
Excellent!
Hello @goodcitizen4587
Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed it.
Hello Daval5563,
You are welcome. I am glad to hear you were able to use the soup (safely).
Thank you for watching!
An important vid. A lot of us don't cook with canned food, but stack it high in case of emerg. There's other vids of guys eating can stuff from the 90's. No probs. Stack em!
I’m like you, they always say rotate, but I would only eat canned food after the collapse, so how do I rotate it?
@@Psyminds true, Im not interested in eating canned food as a primary food source AT ALL. Im just not.
Just incase you didn't know, you could eat those Chunky soups right out of the can without heating them. They are precooked. adding heat just tastes a little bit better.
I found a box of can soup in the back of a closet that had escaped rotation for several years. It was mostly Hormel Chili with beans and Campbell's Chunky Cheeseburger soup. The oldest Campbell's was five years expired, and the Hormel's was seven years passed expired. No dents, rust or damage to the cans. Over the course of two weeks, I ate it all. I let my family know what I was doing and where to find my WILL, in case they found my dead body. Gotta plan ahead. All of the Campbell's had a strong, unpleasant after taste. The Hormel's tasted just fine. No Gastro-intestinal problems with any of it. 'Best by" dates are just a suggestion. EDIT: I ate all of the soups cold, straight out of the cans. Lean times are coming. Stay safe and be ready!
Canned goods are fine so long as the cans aren't swollen or breached. Store them in a cool dry place and you've got food for years. That's what makes canned goods so attractive to food pantries and preppers.
I was born in 1964 and when i was 6 in 1970 my elderly next to neighbour ask me if i wanted some tinned strawberries so of course i said yes she put them in a bowl and said oh ive had these since 1938 and they tasted absolutely devine and no problems after
Hello everyone!
There have been a lot of questions and comments on the ingredients of the two cans of soup. So,
I posted the nutrition and ingredient labels for the two cans on the Community Tab so y'all can check out the differences!
Looked like the old can had cream, and new can had nonfat milk. That might account for the different color?
The data on the cans is more than likely false / more lies / untrustworthy.
You can't be in business in this world unless you are a liar.
@@gsdalpha1358 The recipe has definitely changed slightly ( some ingredient variation and position on the list) I am a fan of "see it, sniff it, taste it" It works for expired foods and other things too,
Salmon does not have a long shelf life.
@@nancykennon310 Define "long"? Canned salmon's shelf life can easily extend past the use-by date, which is primarily there to indicate how long it will taste its best. Generally, canned salmon will keep at least three to five years unopened and properly stored. If you can, find canned good without the pop top. Solid tops seem to keep longer.
Like others have said I believe the ingredients have changed over time between the two cans. Read the label on the cans and see if there's any difference in ingredients. If not it could just be where the ingredients were sourced from.
Also in their test kitchens from time to time they change their recipes could be what happened here.
If you've ever had one of the "Homestyle Bakes" boxed dinners, it's basically a 8x8 pan of bisquick drop biscuits with a can of that soup or something similar. They are delicious but with your own soups you can customize it. Also with the biscuit taste, it may camouflage any slightly different taste. Easy way to use them up and super easy and quick meal! Nice video!
Ive had plenty of food 5+ years after BEST BY date. I try to rotate, but I often forget to grab oldest first, I get disorganized and lazy. Recently had some sardines from 2014. No issues, at all. No change, in fact. The USDA website does good job of explaining that "dates on foods refer to quality, not safety". Always amazed the amount of waste because some folks toss stuff the moment the date comes around. Even in the comments asking if you got sick. Yeesh. If you did, that would have happened whether you ate it a day after you bought it or 5 years after you bought it. Also, cooking kills most forms of botulism, which is probably what people are concerned about.
As for color change? I would first look at ingredients side by side for any changes. Otherwise, could be anything. The color of soup can change due to a variety of factors such as the ingredients used, the cooking/manufacturing process, and the storage conditions. The best by date is an indicator of when the soup is at its best quality and flavor, after that ingredients can degrade (but are still safe). Unfavorable conditions such as exposure to light or heat.
True about botulism. Boiling for 10 minutes is good to kill that.
Living in Montana: our winters can get cold.
I made the mistake of letting some of my canned goods freeze and EVERYTHING was ruined. Y.U.C.K.
Thanks for sharing
That makes perfect sense, items should not freeze , that's not meant to be.
I would say back five years ago they would have put less preservatives in canned food than they do these days, that's probably why the new one tastes better because we have gotten used to more salts and sugars and preservatives which bulk out the goods.
As a wwii reenactor, I have seen people eat C rations dated from the 1940s. Just make sure the can isn't bubbled up and no rust on the inside
Some companies change their recipes over time so the color/taste difference could possibly be because of that. I've eaten food that is a few years past its Best Buy date but 7 years is the most I've seen! Good to know it was still more than edible.
People need to wrap their heads around the difference between "Best by/before" date and "Use by" date,
"Use by" date is where a product HAS to be used by that date.
"Best by/before" date is where the product will be at its best before that date, but will still be safe to eat afre that date if it has been stored correctly.
Both of those dates are there to protect the MANUFACTURER MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.
The colour difference on the inside of the cans is purely down to the coating on the inside of the can.
I'd be willing to bet that the colour difference between the two soups is probably down to a change of recipe, the same with the taste.
When I cleared out my mothers kitchen I found a tin of Rhubarb in syrup over 10 years old - it tasted fine!
I like your videos. Common sense.
A month or so ago I had a can of fruit that has been in my truck since 2019. It was hiding behind some ductwork.
Tasted a little like the can, but I’m here to tell the story.
It’s all good.
Cheers
A lot of times, canned fruit tastes a little like tin anyway.
Tuna is a little more fishy, add to Alfredo Noodles, and chili loses its flavor, add lots of powder, but I've eaten older cans than this and never got sick. Fact: I got the chits many times eating lunch at downtown restaurants! Never after eating 7+1 day old leftovers and very old canned foods. Prepping is hard. Free food is my favorite. I don't throw food away. I also didn't know they were intentionally starving the Chinese kids my mom always talked about. Edit: guess what's coming next?
Cans now have plastic liners that degrade over time. Their purpose is to limit metallic flavor from entering the food. Acidic foods will break the liner down faster.
I think the cans were made better years ago. Today, the cans are cheap. They dent easily.
And those pop-up tops concern me too as possible chinks in the armor.
I love this soup and I eat it a lot. I add powdered onion and garlic from the Dollar Tree. Perfect meal! I often fill a sub roll with the soup mixture and heat it up in foil in the toaster oven. Heaven! As I said, this soup is my favorite- just add in those two spices!
Health is overrated
It also can be that the recipe has been altered for whatever reason. Suspect it may have been made with cheaper ingredients, more water or some other ingredients that cuts the manufacturer' s costs
I feel like that particular soup used to be lighter in color at time period, but that could just be my brain playing tricks on me. If that’s the case, it’s a factor of some sort of coloring or preserving product weaking over time. My overall experience with any canned food I’ve had in long-storage is that it loses some flavor and becomes more bland over time, but the expiration by no means is a testament to it soiling.
Hey Les. Great video as always, and it's good to hear from you again.
Oh, and thanks for taking one for the team by being the guinea pig on outdated food. 😁
As far as the color difference, I'd have to agree with @juliemiscera267 and wonder if they may have changed the recipe. Or possibly a slight difference between batches.
I'd think that if something with a cream base like that changed color over time, that it would slightly darken rather than lighten. Just my thoughts...
What you found in taste is consistent with what I've heard about in really old canned food, such as WWII rations. This being a loss in flavor and nutritional content, while still being safe to eat. I'd assume the loss would be less so with the contents only being 5 years expired compared to 70 or 80.
As always, thanks for what you do.
Hello Steve,
You are welcome and thanks for watching and sticking with us these last few months.