Helmut Lachenmann : Marche fatale (2016/2018) (but cursed)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 41

  • @GuilhermeCarvalhoComposer
    @GuilhermeCarvalhoComposer Год назад +9

    Translation of the final text (by Google):
    The conductor should let the tam-tam fade away for a long time and, with a raised hand, "keep the audience and the orchestra in check". Only very shortly before it finally goes out should he "snip" the barely perceptible remainder of the sound with his hand (with a "snapping motion") in whatever way he likes, but remain motionless in order to keep the silence - which is only now actually occurring - even further and hold on as long as possible before he "waves off".

  • @MSchultheis
    @MSchultheis Год назад +7

    So great you posted this, this is so awesome and such a great humor! And ultimately a fantastic and refined orchestration by a man famous for normally avoiding "beautiful" sounding notes at all cost for decades! Thank you Mr Lachenmann for that gift!

  • @CMLPoP
    @CMLPoP Год назад +19

    avant-garde at its finest lmao

  • @pablosantander3143
    @pablosantander3143 Год назад +4

    I had a blast listening to it, thank you.

  • @inotmark
    @inotmark Год назад +4

    Subtitle should be: Hommage to John Phillip Sousa to draw the obvious connection between American militarism and its resultant fatalities. The irony of the Liszt and Wagner love music quotes is delicious.
    Overall it sounds a lot like Ives paean to US participation in WW I in "They are there".

  • @Forestier1
    @Forestier1 Год назад +3

    I can’t help but draw parallels with the works of two Americans, Charles Ives and David Del Tredici.

    • @Brandon55638
      @Brandon55638 Год назад

      I agree, especially since David del Tredici and other contemporary composers practically reinvented tonality. I really love his orchestral music. He could transform something like Brahms into something kaleidoscopic, fantastical and at times much more chromatic and dissonant.

  • @jas_l1
    @jas_l1 Год назад +8

    "Many composers have incidentally accepted the banal."

  • @connorcmusician
    @connorcmusician Год назад +2

    icon

  • @harvestedvoltage4324
    @harvestedvoltage4324 10 месяцев назад +2

    Reminds me a bit of Widmann and Lopez

  • @Sharkyb0i_youtube
    @Sharkyb0i_youtube 2 месяца назад +2

    Wer ist wegen Herr skarabino hier

  • @겨울의톱밥난로
    @겨울의톱밥난로 Год назад +1

    골때리는 음악이네요 ㅋㅋㅋ

  • @bmjcomposer
    @bmjcomposer Год назад +7

    6:45 wtf

  • @EJOh
    @EJOh Год назад +4

    하지만 작품에 담긴 라헨만의 철학은 놀라운 것

    • @user-je7hq2rg6e
      @user-je7hq2rg6e Год назад +3

      궁금해서 그러는데,
      혹시 이 곡에 담긴 라헨만의 철학을 설명해주실 수 있으실까요😢...?? 들어보고싶습니다..ㅠㅠ 궁금해서요..

    • @EJOh
      @EJOh Год назад +2

      @@user-je7hq2rg6e키 테마는 '평범함'입니다. 20세기 이후 점점 첨단을 향해 달려가는 오늘날에도 대중음악은 항상 어떠한 평범함을 고수하려 하고, 또 고수하게 됩니다. 심지어 우리가 추구하는 어떤 새로운 미학에서도 어떤 '평범함'에 빠질 수 있는 위험에서 벗어날 수 없습니다.

    • @user-je7hq2rg6e
      @user-je7hq2rg6e Год назад +3

      @@EJOh 잘 설명해주셔서 감사합니다! 의견 잘 들었습니다...!😢

  • @hyunminkim
    @hyunminkim Год назад +5

    4:18

  • @siavashsafari3795
    @siavashsafari3795 Год назад +2

    He's even weirdly good in banal writing!

  • @정현우-e1f
    @정현우-e1f Год назад +5

    ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 라헨만 최애곡

    • @BetonBrutContemporary
      @BetonBrutContemporary  Год назад +2

      ㅇㅈ할수밖에 없다
      프레쑝을 듣느니 이걸 듣겠다

    • @정현우-e1f
      @정현우-e1f Год назад +2

      천만 번 동의함

    • @achoikomposition
      @achoikomposition Год назад +2

      @@BetonBrutContemporary 저거 롯데월드에서 틀고싶다 놀이공원에 전나 잘어울리는데

  • @evifnoskcaj
    @evifnoskcaj Год назад +3

    This just sounds American to me.😂💯

  • @SihyeonChoe
    @SihyeonChoe Год назад +1

    맛있네요

  • @chronochromie772
    @chronochromie772 Год назад +2

    What are all the works quoted in this piece?

    • @BetonBrutContemporary
      @BetonBrutContemporary  Год назад +2

      so far Liszt's Liebestraum, Rossini's Guillaume Tell Overture and Wagner's Tristan und Isolde Vorspiel

  • @achoikomposition
    @achoikomposition Год назад +7

    6:45 what we want

  • @EJOh
    @EJOh Год назад +4

    치명적인 평범함에 그만 정신을 잃고 말았습니다...

    • @achoikomposition
      @achoikomposition Год назад +4

      그게 목적이였는걸요..ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

  • @Labratas123
    @Labratas123 9 месяцев назад +2

    lmao

  • @minjoonchoimusic
    @minjoonchoimusic Год назад

    무슨........

    • @BetonBrutContemporary
      @BetonBrutContemporary  Год назад +1

      이것은 우리가 진정으로 필요했던 아방가르드(가 아님)

  • @newaccounter
    @newaccounter Год назад +1

    Wtf

  • @DanielMendesguitar
    @DanielMendesguitar Год назад +2

    unnecessary joke in the end, btw