I've been running a Champion 23 ton splitter for 8 years. It still starts on the first or second pull every time. Yes, the log shelf is junk. I fabricated a table that attaches to the splitter made from 3/16th steel since I don't move it. Would be a better product if it wasn't built to split backwards. All in all though, for the price they're not too bad. Well over 200 cord through mine and only sharpened once.
Thank you for the review. I have a Champion 37 ton I purchased a little over a year ago and mine looks different. I purchased mine from HD and like you I am quite pleased. For my use it serves me fine. I do agree with not having a better table. But again - I am happy. My yellow tables are more heavy duty - but smaller - hmmm! Thanks for the review.
I just bought the 27 ton Champion to split my dead oak trees up. Just about finished splitting the wood from 7 trees. Your right about using it vertical. It's not easy work. I'm 68 years old with a bad back so I will be using it in the vertical mode when needed. All and all it's a good splitter for my needs. 👍
Hey cliff good to here from you 🙂👍. This is a good machine but like anything else it could be better. However it is way better than a splitting maul. Cliff thank you very much for sharing and commenting.
@abrammatthew756 it’s a good machine for the most part. However it’s not bulletproof. I posted a video about a month ago. It’s titled (champion 37 ton splitter brakes)_. I’m not showing you this to give you buyers remorse. Rather, I’m showing you this video because I tell you why it failed and how to prevent it.
You need to look on RUclips. There's a guy that designed a lift off the side of the champion. That lifts the log right up using the stroke of the hydraulix simple design but very ingenious.
I have seen that video very interesting concept. You know what they say. Necessity is the mother of all inventions.🙂👍 thanks for taking the time to watch my content and I hope I’ve earned your subscription. I believe I’ve got somewhere around 230 or so more videos. Just FYI.🤜
I have a very similar (badge engineered). Splitter, it needed me to weld two side tables as there were none, I increased the foo end as it was far too small. There was a four cutter blade as an extra that split. Mine is a diesel and it is a very noisy engine with mechanical clatter making the most noise. The biggest gripe is that is very slow on return because the ram could be bigger diameter. It does not stop pushing at the most grizzly logs so not a problem it is just the speed it runs at.
I totally agree about the horizontal/vertical design. I don't like it, and ruled out getting a Champion because they don't make a horizontal push through design, except for the 7 and 9 Ton low profile ones. I have two Champion machines, so far I like both. Had an issue, and Champion customer service was outstanding. I thought about getting the Canadian version of Champions 9 ton horizontal version. It is too low, but I could modify it..... Commercial splitters are horizontal push through for a good reason. Home made, same reasons. You just need to add a simple log lifter. I can't afford a commercial wood splitter, just to split my wood. I split some big stuff with the "family" horizontal splitter, so I know a well designed 20-27 ton Champion should be able to split just about anything, much more efficiently than these current vertical designs, needing the blade to be on the ram. Looks like I will need to buy a used, home made, full beam, road ready, feed through, fast splitter. I found one with a 4 stage pump! $1000, 9HP engine. We shall see if it is in good shape or not. I am trying to obtain the cash. Damn shame IMO that Champion didn't just make big brothers(sisters) to their 7 and 9 ton horizontal low profile splitters, and make those height adjustable??? Basically just make them the same style that the better commercial splitters are. Something consumer grade copied from one of these: ruggedmade.com/22-ton-push-through-gas-log-splitter-196cc-honda-engine-w-log-lift-catcher.html and: www.eastonmadewoodsplitters.com/products.html?store-page=Eastonmade-ULTRA-Wood-Splitter-p297621141
Hi dave,I have that brand same setup. The reason why it is that way is that when it is vertical it would be dangerous to have the wedge and push plate reversed. I enjoyed your video thanks.
2 years old and barely run mine now but when i do every couple months 2-3 pulls same motor but 34 ton. Hundreds of hours on it. Can speak for longevity. The side tables suck on these. Mine are angled and have triangle cutouts. Little Heavier duty than the ones that came with yours. triangle cutouts have almost gotten my fingers taken off with logs that moved the wrong way on the triangles. Other than no other complaints here.
I know exactly what you’re talking about. There’s many of times I pulled my hands out of there really fast thinking I was about to lose my fingers. Thank you for commenting. I do appreciate the social interaction with my viewers and hopefully subscribers. 😁👍
I had a splitter that pushed the wood through the wedge. That was 25 years ago. The problem is that it pushes it off the splitter. I found myself picking the wood up multiple times if it was a large piece. I'll take one like this all day over the older style.
These older style splitters sure have their place. I had mentioned in the video that there are some people out there who really prefer this type of splitter, and I completely understand why everybody’s got their own style. Aside from that. I hope you enjoyed the content and I hope I earned your subscription, I have plenty of other videos for you to watch if you wish to do so you take care and have a great new year.
John you’d better get it right !! It’s not a 37ton log splitter as all these log splitters although badged as such, they all only put up 7-10 tons of splitting force !! The 8-16 GPM pumps used on these cannot put up any more pressure than 7-10 tons as they are continually circulating the oil. To achieve 37 tons you’d need a 100 GPM pump and a 45-50hp engine !!😎
I guess what I was trying to say in the video is that the push through design firewood, splitters with the log lifts on the side is not a new concept anymore. So that being said, the big box stores should be able to provide us with a splitter with a log lift, and a push through design with a sorting tray at a significantly lower price for entry level and homeowner use. thank you very much for commenting. I’m happy you’re watching my channel.🙂👍
Seems this critter has been designed backwards with minimal material costs. Cheapest usually ends up the most expensive. Quality does not cost, it pays for years to come.
I do agree with you Joe,, but you know the saying everybody’s gotta start somewhere. It’s a lot more efficient than a splitting mall, but not as efficient as we’d like it to be we live in a world of compromise. All we can do is just keep on keeping on and maybe one day step it up a notch, thanks for commenting on the video. I hope you enjoyed it and I hope I’ve also earned your subscription. Take care Joe have a good weekend.
I usually have people contact me asking if o can remove blow downs from the fields. I will go over and take a look. If it’s good I’ll take it. If not, they may pay or barter for me to do something with it. Most times I’ll take it. Also so I do prefer a vertical splitter as long as I can work standing up.
Thanks for commenting. So I guess my first question to you would be how often do you use it? The second question would be how do store it? And for how long. When you do let it sit for weeks or months do leave fuel in it? If you do that may be your problem there. The ethanol in the gasoline is terrible for any motor all the O-rings and gaskets all get ruined by the ethanol. My solution over the years has been to turn off the fuel lever on the gas tank and let it run until the motor runs out of fuel and stalls. At that point you can either try to empty the fuel tank on it or just use a little bit of fuel additive to protect the fuel that is left in the fuel tank. When you use a fuel additive, do not shake or stir. It is not designed to mix with the gas like two-stroke oil. It’s designed to float on top and prevent condensation from Mixing with your fuel. thank you again for commenting. I hope you are enjoying my content and that it is worthy of your subscription. Thank you and have a good day. P.S. I am not a mechanic lol I’ve just had the same problems with other machines that I’ve had.
I have seen them and other videos with defenders. However, mine did not come with fenders. At least whoever did the assembly process didn’t put them on anyway. I am glad you enjoyed the video. I have plenty more on my page for you to watch at your leisure. I hope that I have earned your subscription. Thank you.
Yeah, I’ve definitely had some ideas rolling around in my head problem is, I have analysis paralysis lol. Thank you very much for the idea. When I come up on project time I will definitely keep that in my list of considerations.
Champion has made many different variations on their log catchers. The way the log catchers are mounted… they are pitched on an upward angle to have a higher likelihood of catching a log in a rolling scenario not to mention tractor supply had it all put together on display. I didn’t actually touch this machine as far as the assembly. Thank you very much for commenting on the video. Have a great weekend.🙂👍
Thanks for commenting. Yes I had mentioned to one of the other viewers that commented earlier that they’ve had several variations in the past already, and they seem to keep changing it up likely due to failures.
I believe they are ITP‘s. I don’t remember the exact name for the tread pattern but they are DOT legal. Thanks for watching and commenting. I hope I’ve earned your subscription.🙂👍
Lol I knew that question would come up somewhere along the line. When I was editing I realized I didn’t give that information. I really didn’t feel like redoing the video so I just went with it. But it’s about a 10 second cycle time
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I've been running a Champion 23 ton splitter for 8 years. It still starts on the first or second pull every time. Yes, the log shelf is junk. I fabricated a table that attaches to the splitter made from 3/16th steel since I don't move it. Would be a better product if it wasn't built to split backwards. All in all though, for the price they're not too bad. Well over 200 cord through mine and only sharpened once.
Thank you for the review. I have a Champion 37 ton I purchased a little over a year ago and mine looks different. I purchased mine from HD and like you I am quite pleased. For my use it serves me fine. I do agree with not having a better table. But again - I am happy. My yellow tables are more heavy duty - but smaller - hmmm! Thanks for the review.
I just bought the 27 ton Champion to split my dead oak trees up. Just about finished splitting the wood from 7 trees. Your right about using it vertical. It's not easy work. I'm 68 years old with a bad back so I will be using it in the vertical mode when needed. All and all it's a good splitter for my needs. 👍
Hey cliff good to here from you 🙂👍. This is a good machine but like anything else it could be better. However it is way better than a splitting maul. Cliff thank you very much for sharing and commenting.
Just bought one today. They beefed up the shelves on newer model. I'll add to this after a few hours of abuse.
I bought one today at Home Depot, seemed to work well, you like it?
@abrammatthew756 it’s a good machine for the most part. However it’s not bulletproof. I posted a video about a month ago. It’s titled (champion 37 ton splitter brakes)_.
I’m not showing you this to give you buyers remorse. Rather, I’m showing you this video because I tell you why it failed and how to prevent it.
You need to look on RUclips. There's a guy that designed a lift off the side of the champion. That lifts the log right up using the stroke of the hydraulix simple design but very ingenious.
I have seen that video very interesting concept. You know what they say. Necessity is the mother of all inventions.🙂👍 thanks for taking the time to watch my content and I hope I’ve earned your subscription. I believe I’ve got somewhere around 230 or so more videos. Just FYI.🤜
I have a very similar (badge engineered). Splitter, it needed me to weld two side tables as there were none, I increased the foo end as it was far too small. There was a four cutter blade as an extra that split. Mine is a diesel and it is a very noisy engine with mechanical clatter making the most noise. The biggest gripe is that is very slow on return because the ram could be bigger diameter. It does not stop pushing at the most grizzly logs so not a problem it is just the speed it runs at.
i just bought a champion 37ton splitter today.from the depot. Im love'n it .
It’s a very good machine 🙂👍
I totally agree about the horizontal/vertical design. I don't like it, and ruled out getting a Champion because they don't make a horizontal push through design, except for the 7 and 9 Ton low profile ones. I have two Champion machines, so far I like both. Had an issue, and Champion customer service was outstanding.
I thought about getting the Canadian version of Champions 9 ton horizontal version. It is too low, but I could modify it.....
Commercial splitters are horizontal push through for a good reason. Home made, same reasons.
You just need to add a simple log lifter.
I can't afford a commercial wood splitter, just to split my wood. I split some big stuff with the "family" horizontal splitter, so I know a well designed 20-27 ton Champion should be able to split just about anything, much more efficiently than these current vertical designs, needing the blade to be on the ram.
Looks like I will need to buy a used, home made, full beam, road ready, feed through, fast splitter. I found one with a 4 stage pump! $1000, 9HP engine. We shall see if it is in good shape or not. I am trying to obtain the cash.
Damn shame IMO that Champion didn't just make big brothers(sisters) to their 7 and 9 ton horizontal low profile splitters, and make those height adjustable???
Basically just make them the same style that the better commercial splitters are. Something consumer grade copied from one of these:
ruggedmade.com/22-ton-push-through-gas-log-splitter-196cc-honda-engine-w-log-lift-catcher.html
and:
www.eastonmadewoodsplitters.com/products.html?store-page=Eastonmade-ULTRA-Wood-Splitter-p297621141
The motor is made by Baofeng, who makes all of champion's motors.
Hey, that’s pretty cool information. I never knew that. Thank you for sharing that with me and everybody else.
Hi dave,I have that brand same setup. The reason why it is that way is that when it is vertical it would be dangerous to have the wedge and push plate reversed. I enjoyed your video thanks.
I’m glad you enjoyed the video in the subject matter and it have yourself a good day
2 years old and barely run mine now but when i do every couple months 2-3 pulls same motor but 34 ton. Hundreds of hours on it. Can speak for longevity. The side tables suck on these. Mine are angled and have triangle cutouts. Little Heavier duty than the ones that came with yours. triangle cutouts have almost gotten my fingers taken off with logs that moved the wrong way on the triangles. Other than no other complaints here.
I know exactly what you’re talking about. There’s many of times I pulled my hands out of there really fast thinking I was about to lose my fingers. Thank you for commenting. I do appreciate the social interaction with my viewers and hopefully subscribers.
😁👍
Maybe flip the side wings over? Possibly upside down.
I had a splitter that pushed the wood through the wedge. That was 25 years ago. The problem is that it pushes it off the splitter. I found myself picking the wood up multiple times if it was a large piece. I'll take one like this all day over the older style.
These older style splitters sure have their place. I had mentioned in the video that there are some people out there who really prefer this type of splitter, and I completely understand why everybody’s got their own style. Aside from that. I hope you enjoyed the content and I hope I earned your subscription, I have plenty of other videos for you to watch if you wish to do so you take care and have a great new year.
Should've bought a swisher.
John you’d better get it right !! It’s not a 37ton log splitter as all these log splitters although badged as such, they all only put up 7-10 tons of splitting force !! The 8-16 GPM pumps used on these cannot put up any more pressure than 7-10 tons as they are continually circulating the oil. To achieve 37 tons you’d need a 100 GPM pump and a 45-50hp engine !!😎
That sounds like fun!! 😆 thanks for stopping by and watching. Have yourself a good memorial day weekend. Be safe.👍
In the vertical position the wedge would be at the bottom and you couldn’t move the round on it. This is why the wedge is on the cylinder.
I guess what I was trying to say in the video is that the push through design firewood, splitters with the log lifts on the side is not a new concept anymore. So that being said, the big box stores should be able to provide us with a splitter with a log lift, and a push through design with a sorting tray at a significantly lower price for entry level and homeowner use. thank you very much for commenting. I’m happy you’re watching my channel.🙂👍
Seems this critter has been designed backwards with minimal material costs. Cheapest usually ends up the most expensive. Quality does not cost, it pays for years to come.
I do agree with you Joe,, but you know the saying everybody’s gotta start somewhere. It’s a lot more efficient than a splitting mall, but not as efficient as we’d like it to be we live in a world of compromise. All we can do is just keep on keeping on and maybe one day step it up a notch, thanks for commenting on the video. I hope you enjoyed it and I hope I’ve also earned your subscription. Take care Joe have a good weekend.
How do you pick and choose your logs?? I love the vertical option
I usually have people contact me asking if o can remove blow downs from the fields. I will go over and take a look. If it’s good I’ll take it. If not, they may pay or barter for me to do something with it.
Most times I’ll take it. Also so I do prefer a vertical splitter as long as I can work standing up.
yes it is comeing apart welds are breakin hoses to the fillter needs to be weld better
I have the 27 ton 294cc. Takes 10-12 pulls to start. Disappointed,Any ideas?
Thanks for commenting. So I guess my first question to you would be how often do you use it? The second question would be how do store it? And for how long. When you do let it sit for weeks or months do leave fuel in it? If you do that may be your problem there. The ethanol in the gasoline is terrible for any motor all the O-rings and gaskets all get ruined by the ethanol. My solution over the years has been to turn off the fuel lever on the gas tank and let it run until the motor runs out of fuel and stalls. At that point you can either try to empty the fuel tank on it or just use a little bit of fuel additive to protect the fuel that is left in the fuel tank. When you use a fuel additive, do not shake or stir. It is not designed to mix with the gas like two-stroke oil. It’s designed to float on top and prevent condensation from Mixing with your fuel. thank you again for commenting. I hope you are enjoying my content and that it is worthy of your subscription. Thank you and have a good day. P.S. I am not a mechanic lol I’ve just had the same problems with other machines that I’ve had.
Nice video. Did you remove the flimsy fenders, did the unit not come with fenders, or did dropped logs knock them off?
I have seen them and other videos with defenders. However, mine did not come with fenders. At least whoever did the assembly process didn’t put them on anyway. I am glad you enjoyed the video. I have plenty more on my page for you to watch at your leisure. I hope that I have earned your subscription. Thank you.
You probably could weild dinaplate on the top of the log holder side plates
Yeah, I’ve definitely had some ideas rolling around in my head problem is, I have analysis paralysis lol. Thank you very much for the idea. When I come up on project time I will definitely keep that in my list of considerations.
You have the log catcher upside down the V goes in the bottom !
Champion has made many different variations on their log catchers. The way the log catchers are mounted… they are pitched on an upward angle to have a higher likelihood of catching a log in a rolling scenario not to mention tractor supply had it all put together on display. I didn’t actually touch this machine as far as the assembly. Thank you very much for commenting on the video. Have a great weekend.🙂👍
Just bought one just likecthat one th e y have upgraded those sides
Thanks for commenting. Yes I had mentioned to one of the other viewers that commented earlier that they’ve had several variations in the past already, and they seem to keep changing it up likely due to failures.
What tires do you have on the Polaris?
I believe they are ITP‘s. I don’t remember the exact name for the tread pattern but they are DOT legal. Thanks for watching and commenting. I hope I’ve earned your subscription.🙂👍
What is the cycle time on the Champion 37 Ton?
Lol I knew that question would come up somewhere along the line. When I was editing I realized I didn’t give that information. I really didn’t feel like redoing the video so I just went with it. But it’s about a 10 second cycle time
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How much did it cost at TSC
My memory is a little shaky on it but I think it was somewhere around $1900
The model that I have it for you missed it in the video it’s a 37 ton
Just ordered one from RK on sale for 1400 put together
Yeah, that’s one of the things I was fortunate about as well as they already had it put together I just had to tow it home.👍