@@Fortnitetyler16 what does losing your power at the regaining them have to do with skill. Plus in the book quest for the last power Jay lost his powers and regain them
@@gg_toxicsr0444 my point is both character have gotten a lot stronger. Many think Jay is weaker but I think he can put up a good fight. The fight though depends on area.
That's cause jay always holds back so we don't know who is stronger but people say its jay cause he is holding back and if he doesn't he would beat kai@@draymondjjames4890
Im pretty sure it was proven by every instance in the show kai was slightly stronger than jay like how zoro was always a bit stronger than sanji in one piece
I think a lot of ya'll forget how strong Jay is lmfao, as much as I love Jay in the remastered seasons, they ruined his abilities. Like let's not forget he was reached his full potential before Kai, he also is an inventor he has definitely got iq. And ya'll may argue "Oh! But he acts so stupid all of the time" Season 6, Nahdakan legit points out how Jay acts foolish and funny to hide emotion. Ya'll fr have not anylized ninjago much lmfao
I feel like I’m the earlier seasons Kai would mop Jay but Season 8 and onward they’re practically equals especially since they’re the two ninja who doesn’t get major power ups before their Dragon Forms in the final season
@@Megan7TK7ryu the ice dragon doesn’t even melt 😭. It just disintegrates. And don’t tell me about how none of the ninja except Kai could do this. Lloyd and Kai are comparable in AP (Lloyd has the edge) so realistically Lloyd could do this too
@@Megan7TK7ryuplus the ice dragon is tangible. Wouldn’t the ice emperor sitting on it break through it cuz of his insane armor. I don’t think so it’s basic logic. I see what you mean and yes Kai’s element did give him an advantage against it but I still think Kai had more AP/DC in this.
Not to mention his anger. His pure anger from losing his sister would've brought down the building. Nya was his sister, he had a closer bond then Jay ever did. He would've had so much anger that he would've killed Jay easily and without a second thought
@@JAY_edit1sure but only when he is using his element is he stronger cole be eating to much cake and drinking to much soda Kai still is faster and has a stronger element and there battle iq is pretty much even and combat and skill is Kai’s have you seen those hands
@@TTDFortsyGaming bro kai melted the golden armor which was star level And kai wistunded a electric shock that was 10k volds while jay withtanded only 300 volts
We all know *ZANE* was the goat. His mentality, powers and strength. Bro sacrificed himself for us all and he built himself from scratch. People be braindead if they say Lloyd was good. It was his dream and was the first to unlock their potential >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bro easily but he can beat jay but in some seasons jay can clap Kai but let’s be honest jay could have potentially became the strongest ninja he’s literally the master of lighting bruh
Jay wins, But If they fight in season 3 dragon rising we would be pretty amazed! If that happen tho. I'm pretty sure Jay got skills when he's serious same as Kai I think 😪 and I luv when they Fight like I would- scream as hell😭
Well jay had attempted to build a functioning glider not to mention he also built in the flying system into the destiny’s bounty Edit: I am aware his father helped him in a small bit of wiring yet the argument still stands strong.
(spanish) En velocidad siempre va a ganar Kai, acuerdense que tiene el record de velocidad en el circuito de entrenamiento, basicamente fue el mejor completándolo
People always highball Kai with no factual evidence in these types of videos. Also I think Jay gets Battle IQ, and Endurance (if you added endurance). Kai was the first to get captured by Nadakan, since Kai knows that they are supposed to be together so Nadakan doesn’t capture them and because Kai ignores that he gets captured first. Jay survived Nadakan and was forced to fight and clean their ship for days and Jay still didn’t wish it all away.
@@SFGLuc1dZen Jay is faster, has more skilled and is more powerful overall. Rn kai would win cause Jay is still in the administration and Kai has rising dragon but in crystalized Jay is slightly stronger
Location? W edit btw Speed: I'm unsure, very similar, marginal difference that I don't really think this will count in a battle so you could call it equal. I can agree with the rest. Although Abilities is not a point I'm going to treat it like it is, In total abilities {All abilities even if they don't have it anymore} and in current abilities Total Abilities: Kai: 17 Jay: 21 Current Abilities: Kai: 8 Jay: 8 So Jay gets abilities
Speed and skills goes to Kai. Only because jay has the element lightning it doesn’t mean he is as fast as the lightning. Even in the comics it says that Kai’s speciality is to be fast. And I don’t have to say anything to Skills Kai is just more skilled than jay.
@@HyperFlame_ W man half the people didnt know OG Jay but its all opinions tbh Im sure you have evidence toward Kai winning and I have evidence toward Jay winning
![Blox Fruits Dragon Rework Update [Full Stream]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqDAp8udhm0/mqdefault.jpg)
Jay forgot to tell his joke of the day to calm his anger issues down
Lmao
Lol freaking perfect
@@LegoRancherStudios11 Kai way stronger
@@davidpeter3063Fr
@@davidpeter3063 no, stfu, jay is is stronger
"ninja please desist"
Zane trying to keep it calm
''Such a violent display of emotions is unbefitting a team''
Lol
@@hello9515😂
I think kie would win but that's my opinion
@@hello9515"MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A TEAM"
It makes me cry how underrated Jay is 😭
Dang 🙁
Zay sucks also Kai wins
Loyd> Kia> Zane > Cole> nya> jay
Lloyd>Kai>Zane>Cole>Jay>Nya Imao
Jay lo è forte ma Kai😢
Jay is pretty powerful when he's serious ngl
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS
@@ninjago793 I waited 5 months for this ngl
(worth it tho)
@@itzraeeofficial_ fr
So tell that to Kalmar lol
Yess 😭
The thing about jay is that unlike the other ninja he holds back when fighting so we've never seen what he's truly capable of if he stopped that
True if jay goes all out nah nah Kai idk bout him.
I mean Jay is soft. Even through his anger, deep down, he never wants to hurt the other ninja so even when it is close to him winning, he holds back.
Yeah he’s a wimp.
@@JustJinxEdits that's not being a wimp, that's having to kind of a soul
@fireshine-rb7us making jay be a ruthless villain character would be a great character arc
Jays all about the jokes, but when the dude locks in, bros on an entirely different level of electricity
Everyone is saying kai wins, but people forget that when Jay's serious, he is so skilled and powerful. Hes just underrated
Kai lost his powers and regained them jay has never plus jay is not so skilled and powerful Kai is
Kai still wins tho
@@Fortnitetyler16 what does losing your power at the regaining them have to do with skill. Plus in the book quest for the last power Jay lost his powers and regain them
@@speedygamerkid if he didn’t regain his powers they would have been dead to that dragon
Because in s16 jay its better than kai in season 16
Jay and Cole are massively underrated
I agree with you, I have watched ninjago since it first came out
An OG i see.
@@LegoRancherStudios11 😁
so has everyone genius its how a fkin show works
@@CosmicOnTopNot everyone has watched the show form season 1 so just calm down.
@@BBOY_11 did it split?
Awesome edit ⚡ 🔥
Thank you (:
Kai❤😢😢
Nah, jay would win
What name song?
Afterdark
I think the fact that he always survives the apocalypse seasons, is evidence enough that Jay might be holding back majorly throughout the show.
I hate how underrated Jay is bro nobody expects anything from him
I remember Kai winning the fight in season 1 that’s just me tho
That was season 1.
@@aneeshanand520 ik but thx
@@gg_toxicsr0444 my point is both character have gotten a lot stronger. Many think Jay is weaker but I think he can put up a good fight. The fight though depends on area.
Even though it is season one Kai still beat him
@@Dr._F1SH yeah but it wasn’t that big of a deal since there wasn’t much contact.
W edit
Everyone is stupid talking about who would win and nobody is talking about how good the edit is.
Thanks
Jay the next Thor 😂
Fr xd
Ur right XD
Thor GOW?
@@LegoRancherStudios11 idk why people say jay is stronger when kai is
That's cause jay always holds back so we don't know who is stronger but people say its jay cause he is holding back and if he doesn't he would beat kai@@draymondjjames4890
Fiyaaa 🔥
Fiyaaaaaa 🔥
So there are really no OGs left, no one remembers the old kai...
Yep that’s what I said cause Kai is overall stronger than jay jay is the weakest ninja in that group
Nah we just rember og jay
Yeah kai is far stronger than jay and how agility go to jay when they ran after morro the only one left was kai
@@itamart7810Kai fell apart without his power, because he was useless without it. Jay doesn’t need his power to be useful thanks to his ingenuity
kai is stronger hes like the main one before (Lloyd was here)
Im pretty sure it was proven by every instance in the show kai was slightly stronger than jay like how zoro was always a bit stronger than sanji in one piece
If Jay’s angry then things might change
@@Loki_Laufeysonnkai still negs
People still downplaying of kai for no reason he is 2nd strongest ninja after llyod
@@SonGoku-rl2vb Nah
I think a lot of ya'll forget how strong Jay is lmfao, as much as I love Jay in the remastered seasons, they ruined his abilities. Like let's not forget he was reached his full potential before Kai, he also is an inventor he has definitely got iq. And ya'll may argue "Oh! But he acts so stupid all of the time"
Season 6, Nahdakan legit points out how Jay acts foolish and funny to hide emotion. Ya'll fr have not anylized ninjago much lmfao
Doesn't mean if u reach something first ur stronger not hating
@@thexdclan9082it really does because that’s why iq goes to jay since he learned those things first
YE
He was also the first to do Cyclondo.
@@VQuixyy_Ytno because kai wanted to be the green ninja and when he realised he reached his potential
Jay's element is more powerful then you imagined.....
If his full potential can control any electronical things then all the ninja is cooked for real.
So is fire when u realise that fire is a plasma which all stars are too
stars aren't only made with plasma if you know.Simliar to different colored stars.
And i didn't say anything with electrons.
Skills for Jay?Kai's skills are bigger! He's almost a sensei
No he's not
Yes he is.
Kai just throws fire everywhere. That isn’t skill.
@@aneeshanand520Hey um haven't you Watch The Rebooted ,Season 11, Season 16, And The pilot with His training. Kai should have the skills .🔴/😇
@@ROZILLA_ENTHUSIASTIC_4KSPIN what did he do in those seasons that showed skills.
Imagine if jay's lightning is based on real life...
I feel like I’m the earlier seasons Kai would mop Jay but Season 8 and onward they’re practically equals especially since they’re the two ninja who doesn’t get major power ups before their Dragon Forms in the final season
Kai one shots the ice dragon jay can’t even make it flinch 💀
because his element is fire??
@@ruqiyamusse7498That's because Kai's element is fire and fire melts ice, lightning does nothing.
@@Megan7TK7ryu the ice dragon doesn’t even melt 😭. It just disintegrates. And don’t tell me about how none of the ninja except Kai could do this. Lloyd and Kai are comparable in AP (Lloyd has the edge) so realistically Lloyd could do this too
@@Megan7TK7ryuplus the ice dragon is tangible. Wouldn’t the ice emperor sitting on it break through it cuz of his insane armor. I don’t think so it’s basic logic. I see what you mean and yes Kai’s element did give him an advantage against it but I still think Kai had more AP/DC in this.
Goated edit 🗿🐐
Jay was just so Maddd
When Kai knocked over the glass of water
Losing someone you loved the most can make you angry for some people
Did everyone forget that kai is nya's brother?
@@rdog3708lol
Are u dumb? Kai is nya's brother @@BrupAlot
@@rdog3708let’s be real. When Jay and nya started dating, they sort of distance themselves from the rest of the group.
You know your dead when jay stops cracking jokes
Kai is the best ninja. He have a big fire heart, and he is the one who have a hot power.
❤️🔥
Yes sir
BRO cole could beat kai ass cold way stronger than kai cole has more durability and strength
Not to mention his anger. His pure anger from losing his sister would've brought down the building. Nya was his sister, he had a closer bond then Jay ever did. He would've had so much anger that he would've killed Jay easily and without a second thought
@@JAY_edit1kai would beat cole
@@JAY_edit1sure but only when he is using his element is he stronger cole be eating to much cake and drinking to much soda Kai still is faster and has a stronger element and there battle iq is pretty much even and combat and skill is Kai’s have you seen those hands
I love it
Dude. Kai would win this fight.
I could agree.
Jay would beat kai like by 2 milliseconds
@@TTDFortsyGaming bro kai melted the golden armor which was star level
And kai wistunded a electric shock that was 10k volds while jay withtanded only 300 volts
Yeah Kai would win
@@Mr_Buff_Potato229 are you forgetting in seabound when jay tanked his own lightning but this time the lighting was like 3x stronger
where did you get the moment with jay from below?
A jay scene pack, i forgot which one
The episode is on youtube, ''Virtues of spinjitzu'' It starts with Jay and Kai competing how many bricks they could break for the last cookie
@@hello9515 thanks
Bro This guy has so much potential bro ur edits are so clean just find another text
Oh, that i did
Thanks!
I found it 🙃
Hi
@@123_Editz Hey! 😄
Kai's song : this boy is on fire ❤️🔥
Kai would win 💯 but good edit 😢
Fax bro thx
Согл
Jay beats kai
Hey, Jay is the best ninja!
@@samuraiandkingofshadowsworldofcap
Red eye Kai is the only serious Kai we’ve had since the start of season 8
Red eyes kai is him using his true potential
@@LegoRancherStudios11imagine blue eyes jay 🥶
@@LegoRancherStudios11Back in the OG Days Kai true potential could beat the crap out of jay
You gave Jay IQ 😭😭😭😭
I could've given kai iq in this specific moment but overall, jay easily takes IQ
Have you not watched Ninjago? Obviously jay gets iq lmao
@@RealWyubfr 💀💔
These 2 are the best characters 🔥⚡️
Jay is smarter then you think
Kai in his normal state 😜🙂😠
Kai in rage mode - 💀☠️👹🔥
So far the only correct result I've seen
W edit
Really thought he was gonna say ninja never quit
If Jay fully used his powers potential. He would definitely be the most powerful (btw lightning moves at 270,000 mph)
Он показывал свой полный потенциал просто прими факт то что Джей самый худший из ниндзя
@@LIMON_ROMA dawg do u not understand none of the other ninjas could reach that amount of speed or power 💀
@@LIMON_ROMAДжей как раз таки почти самый сильный ниндзя, не считая лойда
Battle IQ is Jay, Kai was the last of the OG4 to start training under Wu, he was in more episodes and was more effective during fights.
Yeah but he solod them
I’m pretty sure that’s experience
Iiiiiiii rapaz pega a pipoca 🍿😂😂😂😂😂😂
depends on the season but W
Kai wins imo. W Edit tho!
Bro forgot that kai also gets ap dc power, combat speed, stamina,etc
Jay gets speed it explains itself 💀
@@BestFut25I know this is 5 months later, but kai is legitimately faster. Just because he has lightning, doesn't mean he is faster.
We all know *ZANE* was the goat. His mentality, powers and strength. Bro sacrificed himself for us all and he built himself from scratch. People be braindead if they say Lloyd was good. It was his dream and was the first to unlock their potential >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Kai would easily clap jay
Kai meat rider
@@Kisukegoatno its true. Out of all the orignal ninjas even loyd sensie wu stated kais potential was to dangerous
He would
@@Hender_editzyeah
Bro easily but he can beat jay but in some seasons jay can clap Kai but let’s be honest jay could have potentially became the strongest ninja he’s literally the master of lighting bruh
Jay is my fav. Jay does not show he is powerful but when u make Jay angry or something happens to Nya, he is very powerful.
I think people highball Jay's speed because of the timestop feat. He was on a vehicle and all he really did was give it an upgrade.
Yeahh, thats not my speed feat, i forgot that part even existed in Ninjago lol.
@@LegoRancherStudios11 lol
@@HyperScepterOfficial He’s a freakin Lighting Ninja, and he was running as fast as the skeleton’s speeding truck in the pilots.
Can u make a short of like the whole fight
Kai can win Jay in a toothbrush in plot episode
Lol
New sub
Thank you
W edit 🔥 but Battle iq goes to Jay
Debatable
@Kmoney3211 Jay doesn't fight as much💀 bro didn't even fight Nadakhan and could barely match Unagami with a dragon
Jay wins, But If they fight in season 3 dragon rising we would be pretty amazed! If that happen tho. I'm pretty sure Jay got skills when he's serious same as Kai I think 😪 and I luv when they Fight like I would- scream as hell😭
Jay get battle iq started before kai
fr that's what i was saying
Jay is very smart but has bad ideas for battle, however when kai is in the middle of a fight he can get some very smart moves off
@@Dr._F1SHJay rarely has bad ideas for battles.
Lookin good bro! I came here cus it’s your most viewed video. It has more views that all my views combined 😂
It was a lucky video lol 🙂
@@LegoRancherStudios11 lol
Bro gave iq to jay☠️
Hey, Jay is the best ninja!
@@ZdaszMatmesays the guy with the brain of jay
Jays brain->🥜
@@Gamer_Ioanlol Jay haters
Well jay had attempted to build a functioning glider not to mention he also built in the flying system into the destiny’s bounty Edit: I am aware his father helped him in a small bit of wiring yet the argument still stands strong.
@@badtothebone9404IKR!
Твой лучший эдит (:
Bro really gave Jay iq💀
wym he made the bounty
😂😂😂😂JAY GETS IQ BRO
@@HyperFlame_ That is what I said lol
@@sones. I was talking about overall not IQ
@@sones. before
I think that for all of the OG 4, could go either way no matter who you put against who
This is the most real comment in here
(spanish) En velocidad siempre va a ganar Kai, acuerdense que tiene el record de velocidad en el circuito de entrenamiento, basicamente fue el mejor completándolo
Idc who would win the edit is just so good like omg
This part cracked me up 😂
Crystalized is season 15
I really hope we can see Kai and Jay fight each other one day it would be interesting
Man those jay fans
Those Kai fans …
@@Free_Palestine-1948-5eh ngl bro, you tripping if you think Jay wins
Jay is powerful when he is not joking
My favorite character in ninjago is Jay he’s a really cool character
Facts
What's the song please
After dark
Completely agree
The best edit
Jay is the w
@@LegoRancherStudios11I hope we see jay in Ninjago dragon rising part 3 and I ship Arin and Sora if you have a problem with it you can kiss my anus
how did you do the fire background?
It's an effect on capcut
thank you
Finally jay isn’t underrated
Wdym jay is underrated and kai and lloyd are the most frickimg overrated ninjas
@@wither782maybe because loyd kicks the shite out of all of them
Zane can beat Lloyd tho with high difficulty
@@wither782I mean people always underestimate jay
@@aliashehada2740Jay is fairly estimated as he's the weakest ninja currently
I’d say it’s pretty evenly matched
People always highball Kai with no factual evidence in these types of videos.
Also I think Jay gets Battle IQ, and Endurance (if you added endurance). Kai was the first to get captured by Nadakan, since Kai knows that they are supposed to be together so Nadakan doesn’t capture them and because Kai ignores that he gets captured first. Jay survived Nadakan and was forced to fight and clean their ship for days and Jay still didn’t wish it all away.
He’s hot, that’s the evidence.
No intiendo {I DO NOT speak Spanish I'm just saying what I think is ''I don't understand'' In Spanish}@@Screech911
@@hello9515 They give him better scores because he’s hot.
Yes bro
Depends on the weather and territory.
Just by Kai’s feats he’s clapping jay harder than big d randy
All these newgens 😔 they don’t know the master of rizzjitzu
Kai has bigger talent since seazon pilot
Kai gets IQ AND SKILLS
Fire edit tho
Jay takes biq
+ jay win high diff
nah
Cap
Him saying jay is faster is crazy😊
Bro gives skills and iq to jay
Jay was the dumbest out of all ⚡️⚡️
You’ve got to be kidding me
Some of you guys are talking about how Jay is stronger when he's serious but kai is stronger in general which was proven by the show aswell.
Kai wins🎉🎉
Losing Kai in season 17 and losing morrow in season 5 were the saddest ninjago moment to me
Kai winner 😑
Thank bro
😃
Ниндзя не сравниваю
Чтобы побидить врага нужно сделать его другом!!!
KAI ON TOP LIKE BRO Y R U YAPPIN LIKE IF IT WAS KAI IN HIS PRIME OML HE WOULD HELLA POWERFUL
Fr
Cap
@@nifemiseton-soares6957 HOW IS IT CAP
@@SFGLuc1dZen Jay is faster, has more skilled and is more powerful overall. Rn kai would win cause Jay is still in the administration and Kai has rising dragon but in crystalized Jay is slightly stronger
@@nifemiseton-soares6957how they were both In Dragon from and Kai 1v3 Zane cole and Jay with a toothbrush
Location? W edit btw Speed: I'm unsure, very similar, marginal difference that I don't really think this will count in a battle so you could call it equal. I can agree with the rest. Although Abilities is not a point I'm going to treat it like it is, In total abilities {All abilities even if they don't have it anymore} and in current abilities
Total Abilities: Kai: 17 Jay: 21
Current Abilities: Kai: 8 Jay: 8
So Jay gets abilities
Season 16 episode 3
In the abandoned subway?@@LegoRancherStudios11
@@hello9515 no, at the monestary
It maybe be episode 2 or 4
@@LegoRancherStudios11oh I see, I wasn’t asking the episode I was asking where the fight would take place
Speed and skills goes to Kai. Only because jay has the element lightning it doesn’t mean he is as fast as the lightning. Even in the comics it says that Kai’s speciality is to be fast. And I don’t have to say anything to Skills Kai is just more skilled than jay.
Fax bro thx ❤
Cap. Jay ran faster than a vehicle going high speed in the pilots and he was able to stand his ground against Kalmaar when Kai pretty much died.
@@sones.didn't all the Ninja run against the vehicle and zane was there too as fast as Jay and kai already was at the fire Vulcano
@@thexdclan9082 That was in true potential and since you spelled volcano wrong I highly doubt you could even recall anything
Bro never watched ninjago lol
Skill could go either way, but I completely agree with this❤
Thanks (:
Bro really gave Jay IQ 💀🤣🤣
Jay easily takes iq lol. Did you not watch season 1-3
@@chris2huniid ive completed all seasons so far jay ig could take iq idk tho it's close
@@Zr7_EDITZ bro name 1 iq feat from kai.
💀bro even i know Jay gets IQ
@@HyperFlame_ W man half the people didnt know OG Jay but its all opinions tbh Im sure you have evidence toward Kai winning and I have evidence toward Jay winning
Bro gave skill to jay lol. Kai would get skill and also stuff like combat, DC, AP, versatility and would win mid diff lol
I agree, kai wins overall. But skill definitely goes to jay, he mastered soo many different types of weapons. But kai most definitely combat.