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The Trinasium isn't there to simulate jumping out of an aircraft, it's there to test your mettle!!!
To see if you've got the mettle to jump out of an airplane...
@@Bjaneeee....In a way! Testing your mettle is to follow instruction/orders without hesitation, to trust your Instructors....Jumping out of an aircraft is one of the consequences of following those orders.
@@Topgooner01 So cool! Wish I had the mettle to do it, what's it like?
@@Bjaneeee....Dunno, I wasn't in the Paras, I was in the RAF, so never done P Company. The RAF Regiment have their own course called the PPS, but this is not as tough as P Company....However, the concept is similar in so far as it still tests your mettle.
@Topgooner Did you do the 5 miler of death so you can stand toe to toe with a para at the bar?
I did my P company in 1984 whist serving in 5 airborne brigade at Arnhem barracks in Aldershot. I found the mental stamina required was a greater challenge than the physical side of it. I was 18 and indestructible with a massive dose of stupid which helped. I found the experience served me well in later life. I refuse to give up now at anything. Milling was the worst part, I got a lucky strike in very early which put my opponent down so they kept me in one more bout against a gorilla. He beat me so hard that I went to the toilet afterwards and puked my ring up. Happy days.
Wasn't it browning bks
Hey I did 663plt but I did a 20miler in p coy day4 have they sto the twenty miler??
@Fistof Fury I was with ROAC at HQ 5 airborne brigade at Arnhem bks, did my pre para with 9 sqn royal engineers before going over the road to do my P company at browning bks.
@@grahamc9890 that was end of 2000 yeh?
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Same happened to me on milling and I was a boxer !!!! 😂😂😂
The idea of the trainasium is actually more to test their ability to obey a command without hesitation. If you hesitate when jumping out of a plane you could fuck everything up for everyone and miss the drop zone. It's less about simulating the jump and more about simulating that immediate reaction to an order whether you're scared or not
shmached your right, it’s all about timing when you’re jumping. Can’t hesitate in the door.
Hit the nail on the head.
I can't remember ever being dropped on the dz ever. It was a given there was a mad tab to get to where we needed to be after a jump. I must have tabbed every inch of Salisbury plain in my time, cheers you RAF muppets.
@@lincolndave1966able how often did you jump? I have my second attempt at prac in August so hopefully I'll be lobbing myself put of perfectly good planes sometimes in the future 😂
@@shmached been along time since the early 80's but back then to keep your para pay it was 6 jumps a year (hence the balloon over the playing fields). No idea what it is now.
Royal Marines, the thinking soldier. Paras strength of a carthorse, speed of a racehorse and brains of a rockinghorse. :¬)) Dad was a Para.
@Denzel Jarome what
@Denzel Jarome a fucking baked bean describing anyone as a failed anything. We sent our p.coy failures to lympstone to do the baked bean course and all of them passed. I am a Falklands vet. How many VC's did the baked beans get .. ????
Wots that .. deafening silence...????
gd one mate I come and grew up in Dover were 2 para me thinks were there AS the last regiment in the Connaught barracks they were a pleasure to have in the town Wild but good blokes I had plenty of heavy nights in town drinking with em Great days
@Denzel Jarome marines are failed paras are marines are not para trained you spastic
@Denzel Jarome I suggest you research the falklands war particularly the news footage as 2 para were the first British troops to March into Stanley. You might well take note of the reporters comments Ask yourself this as well. When was the last time you saw a tv recruiting advert for the parachute regiment??? Marines advertise all the time !!! No shortage of people who want to join the best regiment. Y drive a fiesta if you can drive a Ferrari !!!
There's one part of the trainasium known as the illusion jump. It's a platform where you do a standing jump at the word of command to another platform.
From the starting platform there doesn't seem any way you could ever make it to the other side. In fact, and although it doesn't seem like it, the second platform is lower than the first and the forward motion combined with the descent is actually more than enough to get you across.
I'm mentioning this because how I felt standing on the first platform waiting for a command to do something that my brain was screaming couldn't be done was exactly how I felt standing in the door on my first parachute jump (surname starting with A meant I was first out the door, welcome to the army). Jumped both times.
The Standing Jump, One lad said to me watch you recon? I replied, I work on scaffolding, The lad failed the standing jump
Can’t say I ever thought it was an illusion. Just a jump If your not scared of heights it’s a bit of fun
Passed my P comany at Catterick and went on to serve with 2/4 para we where sent on an exchange with U.S troops in Kentucky Fort Knox and the way you guys train is just as hard as British Paras do i had time of my life the Americain guys where brilliant enjoyed it all and i know the lads from U.S that came to UK enjoyed it to i loved firing the 50 cal on the knox ranges fantastic.
2 para and 4 para are you real.different as chalk and cheese
Trinasium is all about nerve.. if u can run over the course overcoming your fears not worrying if u going to fall maybe killing yourself you can overcome juming into battle.. iv done one and yes scary
The 'ammo' is a 120kg telegraph pole, over 2 miles of ditches/ uphill
Its a 60kg telegraph pole not 120
You hit the nail on the head. Hate heights, but when someone is pushing you out of a plane it's nothing like this useless course.
As another commenter put, Paras aren't smart, you can shout at them. Marines are trained totally differently in the UK, and are a thinking soldier. Paras are trained to be human alsatians
I would say the screaming is different, one thing on the run or in field combat. I have been a DI and nothing scares the recruit more then be quit and cool if you inside etc.
Heinz G is it to make them think you don’t give a shit right? Like they start to think you’ve given up on their progress maybe?
Zac Guevara yes its close, i think it has to do with that they don’t want to make you disappointed
The trinasium got me, I'm not good with heights unless I have some safety attached. I thought my section commander was going to hit me
Paras, I don’t understand why but everyone hates them. I respect them as they do a lot more difficult stuff than us (regular inf soldier in training at Catterick)
One part jealousy, one part confusion, one part actual annoyance (paras also suffer from big headed arrogance - not entirely unwarranted but it rubs people the wrong way)
I did P Company at Aldershot with 1,4 &15th Parachute Regiment and passed first time but failed my Basic Recruit Course. However I loved every second.
if u can't operate with DIs n staff SCREAMING at u how do they expect u to operate with rounds after rounds after rounds going above ur head left right n centre
There were tv progs with the royal marines, purely a PR exercise. I went for their reserves once and they did alot of shouting
My Dad was in the 1980’s P Company doc, in the milling he’s wearing number 15 on his shorts.
The illusions jump is actually just 1m wide but as the name suggests it looks wider because of the emptiness below it
My dad was 7rha...made for an interesting childhood
No.. So I joined the Royal Navy! Happy days ⚓👌🍻
I remember in the late 80's in my R.E.M.E days watching the lads carrying the pole at Aldershot. Made me sweat just watching them!
Its baisicly to see if you have confidence in yourself at hight. The ballon jump is the same.
Pretty sure the inside of an aircraft does not include you trying to balance and walk along a narrow piece of pipe before you have to exit. Not sure how this would build confidence in you exiting the aircraft. As an Confidence Course I can see the merits, but not as a requirement for British Paras.
The trainasium It’s about following orders without hesitation and confidence building.
Airborne Brotherhood ready for anything 🇬🇧
Waiting for my start date to be sorted as it got cancelled due to covid
Good luck
Me again, sorry, slow afternoon and watching the wife mow the lawn has lost its allure. Part two is very interesting but the version I watched is horribly messed up and frustrating. I think it might send you over the edge. Get a bit of Milling though, that's serious fun. Me and my buddies tried it once as teenagers to toughen ourselves. Only did it once and then decided en mass that we were not airborne material. Except one, who went on to be airborne material.
Good stuff. I could see watching the grass grow get boring. I used the same crappy video but cut out all of the pauses and blurring parts. Made it watchable. I will do the same with part II.
Don't think - do it.
I hated the dead man carry omg the PAIN IN YOUR MUSCLES . oR THE WOUNDED MAN .
Done it. Got the t shirt. Wings as well
p company try reading the forgotten soldier and the ss training.
"The recruits - traditionally known as "joes"..." So...they'rre not calling them crap-hats anymore? What did they rename crap-hat hill to? Joe Hill? It doesn't have the same ring to it.
When you do your CIC (Combined Infantry Course) and P Company test week you’re called JOE which stand for “joined on enlistment” until you pass and go to RAF Brize Norton for basic parachute course where you’re all then called Tom. “Cap hat” is what we call any soldier who isn’t a Para or SF. I also think the bootnecks (Royal Marines) call them crap hat hats as well. It’s to do with the fact Paras wear the maroon beret whereas the other wear that shite standard one. The Paras, bootnecks and military police or “monkeys” as we call them wear different colour berets to the crap hats.
Simple. If it’s not green, maroon or beige, it’s a crap hat.
The Tranasium is there to see how much urine is stored in the recruits' bladder and to see who p*sses themselves first. That shuffle bar at the very top is horrible. Did it once only. Thank God. Passed. 🙏
Daunting week? Is it fuck. Easiest week of depo
Fear of falling
the royal marines and the paras are rivals
4:04 your wrong go quick but look what your stepping on 👍 strike no.1
royal marines all under the navy, para's are army
Wow this must be old number 15 was my corpal at phase one
Not representative of jumping, the trainnasim is bullshit to be failed on the one event is just stupid to back squad otherwise good soldiers that still jump makes no sense, as an ex para who still jumps regular for charity to this day the memory of that trainnsim still fills me full of horror there was no safety nets back in the day when I did my P Coy in January straight off a 10 miler it was brutal - forgot to mention how slippery it was up there 👆
"dont like ouchies" isnt what passing out lumping that log is all about. He obvs ignored the "ouchies" until his body shut down. Who's this crusty old banger narrating this?
I have spent some time with this type of training. everyone has bumps and bruises. its part of it. dropping out for that is an ouchie.
@@JamesonsTravels bumps and bruises yes, but passing out through sheer effort isnt an ouchie, its giving 100%
Tony Parkes I agree with this comment, maybe he could upload some videos of him doing any of his training. Just to show he had the metal. After all the USMC basic training is about the same duration of the British Army’s basic training
@@shanehaines4948 is it? All the hype about the marines and its similar to the 14 week basic training?
Would respect his opinion if he had passed a selection that 1000's and 1000's had not passed as well. He knows jack shut about doing and passing a high attrition course.
It's just about testing bottle(balls)
As an ex infantry man myself I will say one thing, it doesn't matter what colour your beret is, or what fancy badge you wear on your shoulder, it all comes down to that day of judgement, on a two way range. 100%
Armoured Infantry rules, had to save the marines in kosavo and the paras in Iraq. Go figure.
I done this 663 plt
Part 2 please
pt 2
Lame…those kids look soft…
I went through harder obstacle courses for fun when I was in scouts. The brits always think their tougher then U.S. soldiers but their courses do not compare.
My sons doing his Para training - it’s hard work.
Good lad 🇬🇧🇬🇧
How’s he doing how far into training is he
Tony T PCOY starts next week
Chris Hunt good luck to him
My very best wishes to the lad. I spent 15 years in the brigade and loved every minute. I am sure your son will enjoy being airborne.
No sky too high...
part 2 please
Yes. Part 2 please!
Will do. Keep watching the others as well. Some good stuff.
I know is your chanel and you'll do it, eventually, but I'm still curious about what do you think about the "milling" ;-)
@@JamesonsTravels part 2 this year? ;)
My uncle was an instructor on P company at one point. The one thing he told me before I applied was that nobody is ever fit enough for P coy and its mostly in the mind. I wound up applied to standard infantry anyway.
Same as UKSF, no human being is physically fit enough to complete the selection on fitness alone. What they are looking for is the mental strength to go on when the body is shutting down and everything is telling you it can't be done, that's why they are so few...
Need to do ‘paras: men of war’ way better documentary
Always been proud that my Dad was a Para.. He used to tell me about the manner of men that were the Paras and their history. They really are a breed apart!
good on dad, Marron machine is a proud badge of honour.special forces pay,boot neck don't get SF pay.says it all
"If you've got a fear of heights, maybe the parachute regiment is not for you". Yea!
In the US, rge the British Parachute Regiment would be classed as Special Forces equivalent to Rangers. However, it is my belief that Para' Reg' is a lot more difficult than many if not all US infantry or special forces (not Delta and SEALS). Outside UK Special Forces (SAS. SBS) P Company and Royal Marines Commandos selection is probably the most challenging in the world.
Mate that’s a fuckint brave comment, the yanks aren’t gonna be happy
Max doesn’t make it less true tho 👌
Lol better than US Special force. First and foremost your a dumbass 2nd youre delusional 3rd you are born autistic
Paras are a special forces support regiment
@@charliestirrup6645 No they aren't. Only 1 para is special forces support
British/UK Para forces are sent into situations where most would fail, this is why psychological elements of training are essential.
These really are toe-to-toe fighters, just look at their missions/honours over the last 80yrs!
@Alex Mulvihill
Only if there are cowards amongst the civilians shooting at them!!
@Alex Mulvihill they're not the facts what really happened Paras were called in to help after bottle bombs were thrown and serious injuries to soldiers the IRA and Martin McGuinness fried the first shots with an M16 which went into the crowd then the Paras fired back then other civilians with small arms then the paras the government kept it under wraps because at the time the Parachute Regiment were threatening to take over the government like 1 rep French Foreign Legion parachute regiment try to do before they were disbanded that is what they were hoping was going to happen to the Paras all the facts about the event around are biased like the films are as well government propaganda a terrible accident by both sides
@Alex Mulvihill the investigation was rubbish because a lot of the people involved are dead now it was a biased investigation to keep people calm no IRA members have been prosecuted only British soldiers
@Alex Mulvihill so I'm an idiot and this is from people who were really there from both sides I know Catholic Irish that hate the IRA with passion more than anybody else ira are a bunch of paedophiles drug dealers and groomers murderers of women children you've obviously been brainwashed by somebody down the road I feel sorry for you
Alex Mulvihill but how tf would u know that
I did P Coy in the early 2000s. It was an unofficial expectation to have your wings up before doing a certain role I had applied for at the time. I was the oldest on the course by a good 5 years. It is difficult but achievable with training and attitude. The hardest part for me was starting each test each morning because I was still sore from the day before. However I was a fairly fit lad and once I got going it was just about sucking it up. A little bit of pain never hurt anybody.
“We need you to dig out blind” = give it absolutely everything you’ve got
You need to do it to understand it ! But your correct its nothing to do with parachute training or fitness, it does weed out a few guys. Iv worked with the 82nd and the Rangers, they can’t keep up , in the field with Para Reg fitness. Don’t talk go do !!!
The trainazium is really to weed out anyone who suddenly realises they're actually not cool with heights... Which is kinda super important
You are always bashing the Royal Marine Commandos, I feel you really need to do more research before you criticise. You do realise that the 32 week Commando training is the longest and most difficult "basic" infantry training in the WORLD?! Furthermore, our elite regiments such as P company and the Commandos are the oldest and most finely tuned, you yanks learnt from these guys 80 years ago... they were the first shock trooper regiments to ever exsist.
Never bashed them. The first video I did the recruits sucked. Hard stop.
@@JamesonsTravels I agree, and I'm a serving Royal Marine! Joke's aside that show you watched was created specifically with the approval of the Royal Marines to attract potential recruits that would have been too intimidated by our previous advertising tag line of "99.9% need not apply". The classic 'throw shit at a wall and see what sticks' method. That show does not reflect the average recruit or the 'darker' parts of training (the parts you would enjoy). Check out Commando On The Front Line by Chris Terrell for a more accurate depiction.
Royal Marines and Paras: much better than anything the Americans have got! Both can actually use their brains for a start.
Jamesons Travels another vote for “Commando on the frontline”, fantastic series. Also check out “ 55 year old Commando”, by the same film maker of “ Commando on the frontline”.
Will S lol dumbass
The whole apparatus is thought out to teach them to follow commands when scared and to overcome fear of heights. The layout is made so they’re forced to look at the ground whilst they’re doing it
I've done recreational tandem skydives a few times, loved it each time, no fear, would do it every day if I could, it was so exhilarating. But you couldn't pay me enough to try walking across that 60-foot-high jungle gym!
Yep. Fear of Heights is an unfortunate name. I am happy in a plane but don't like to stand on a chair.
That hill where the guy was being screamed at after getting 3 stripes is looks a lot less steep on video.
Trainaism is not to represent jumping.. Its testing confidence with heights, just like the high rope on the ranger course at Bragg, which in fact is unbelievably easy course throughout
It's also to test to see if you go when they say GO! I passed this 3 week course in 1989.when it was tough.
ranger training is not ez at all 🙈
@@paulreeves1787 we pissed all of their tests with total ease
@@onajourney2072 bore off.. Its still nails.. Blokes have done much more on ops than the 89 bunch.... Shit comment
@@manonwax8474 It's fact...you weren't there. Yawn and oh another gobby sprogg.
Trinasium is used to see if you can, overcome fear and follow an order, when you get the green light you can’t freeze. It isn’t bad once you run through it. Gandalf’s dip doesn’t take any prisoners on the log run.
Looks rough.
Kaya Teksen yeah by p coy all the lads would have had a turn on this as well to familiarise. So you do gandalfs dip on p coy? That’s interesting. Is it same route as the 4mile fam run at PRAC?
From my experience, the more you hesitate, the less likely you are going to go through with the obstacle course. In such situations, it is down to mental stamina and shear courage.
2nd battalion ROYAL GREEN JACKETS smashed the shit out the paras in palace barracks Hollywood Northern Ireland 1995!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 swift and bold
Never having to do a log or stretcher run at Catterick again, is a happy feeling.
This and then some.
"gentleman were going to the land of Nod today"
Not with sick chit I'm not staff 😂😂🙋🏻🙋🏻
The tranasium is not to simulate jumping out of a plain it to see if the recruits have bottle at hight which in turn will give them confidence when jumping out a plane the parachute regiment is the best airborne unit in the world
3:05 Not sure where you got the idea that the trainasium is supposed to simulate jumping out of a plane. I can't tell if the Brit narator said that because of your shitty, jumpy video quality (you should have re-recorded it - preparation and planning!). I can tell you the trainasium is NOT to simulate jumping, but is to test the resolve, courage (incl. a head for heights), and to weed out the wheat from the chaff before they get into a plane. If you don't have the guts and determination to pass this stage, you may be a liability in the plane and/or after you hit the ground. This test is entirely valid. And it's not just about being able to deal with heights; it's about overall general courage and determination.
You missed out the milling. Paras are trained for extreme controlled aggression. The milling part is a very interesting tradition. I'm surprised you missed it out.
yeah milling is a C* my of a thing.controled aggressive.bollocks OC P coy wants to see a fight.not a pussy.i got smashed but kept going and that's what is needed 😂😂😂
Mental toughness is always overlooked by people joining up. I've seen lads of 6" plus and 13st struggling on speed marches with weight. I've also seen skinny guys weighing 10st soaking wet breeze it! Mental toughness is something else..you've either got it or you haven't.
I can singlely say the parachute regiment training course is one of the hardest fitness tests u will ever experience ever in ur life its is emotional
I think what they're looking for is guts and determination. Someone who's perhaps not so super fit but willing to give it their very best shot with lots of determination will get through. They can always work at their fitness and build on it,. but if they haven't got the mind set then they're wasting their own time. IMO only as haven't experienced P Coy but wish them the very best and hope they all pass
It’s to build confidence and stop you from hesitating
The Trainasium is not about jumping its about acting even when you have fear
I'd never make P Company I can barley jump down a meter+ drop with getting scared so. That's why I'm picking the Royal Artillery.
Im shit scared of heights, shit scared of skydiving too. Currently waiting for PRAC.
Fantastic video. And the fact that you said the first loser I like. Simply because these days everybody's the last winner (there is no such thing in my opinion and certainly wasn't when I was playing football in HS 25yrs ago)....damn...feeling old.
God forbid anyone gets their feelings hurt. As you stated, lot of paratroopers do it and hate it at the same time. That translates into a lot of areas in life where you hate it and you're miserable but you do it anyway. I won't rant, it's Christmas so if you celebrate Christmas then Merry Christmas, if not have a great day anyway!!!
Put that in the comments...love it.
Also worth noting, this is to prove you react on command and will exit the plane on the Green light. If you don't jump, it's a court martial, jail time and quick exit our the regiment (after jail time). This is your job as a para and there is no point in spending the money to train someone up and get them to that jump, to find they don't have the mettle for the job.
It’s strange the narrators from these programs are very bad at telling what’s going on and sometimes get it wrong aha
Check out cutting edge p company a 1992 TV documentary about the all arms course
Iv watched the whole series, what they dont show u is the lack of sleep these guys have this on p company.. late nights early mornings, midnight beastings.. they get put through the mill
Great youtuber for listening to commenters
thanks. i try to cut through the bs
Nothing wrong with failure my man. It's how you adapt and overcome that shows the strength of a man. He overcame his failure and learnt that he can do it. These guys a British servicemen and that makes them the best. Failure is just a part of learning
If you cant do the tranasium, it's very unlikely you are going to jump out of a plan. It's not about simulating jumping out of a plane, its determining whether you will go on command without hesitation.
The trainasium is only partly testing the ability to jump out of a plane. Paras when jumping in are surrounded 360⁰ by enemy as they are behind enemy lines. When under fire you are going against every nerve and particle of brain matter screaming DO NOT RUN. This is testing your ability to deny your fear and do it anyway as that literally wins battles.
As has been said, the trainasium isn't to do with jumping from a plane. It is a test of the size of your bollocks and the ability to overcome fear immediately, at command.
It's not about fear. Anyone with half a brain would be concerned about tiptoeing up there. It is entirely about obeying orders without hesitation, along with other aspects of para training. Especially milling.
You don't join the best and hardest para regiment in the world whilst scared of heights
No combat jumps since 1956 suez
The rhodesians did many in the seventies before the cease fire
Also americans grenada 1983
Israel 1967
What the fcuk do Americans know about the British Army, the Parachute Regiment, Airborne ethos (they adopted it from the Brits) or P Company? Best just keeping quiet.
9 Para Sqn RE the hardest pre para ever before we went to P coy 1982 1983 ...82nd Airborne did a day with us and couldn't believe how hard it was.....
My grandson made it through, very proud of him.
Always look forward top your videos great job
Glad you like them!
P company is great but not if you're a crap hat they slaughter you more been through but I said f them I'm getting that beret, but it's to easy now kid's don't want to put the effort in everything is to difficult, and when I was doing it you got absolutely shouted at not now you've got to wrap them up when they start crying BEHAVE
All but 3 were X paras on X Neptune's spear ,oh yeah the stick to it two chances then to the normal infantry training center u no when I went brize Norton parachute school an airman from the RAF regiment meant to be the creme denla creme of airforce soldiers said get down give me ten ok twenty for laughing I couldn't stop laughing he said what's so funny cause in para depo we got shuttles then held in stress positions then a hundred minimum push ups lol
A joke. If you want to see P Coy as it should be watch the cutting edge documentary. And that’s all arms ffs.
What too much interrupting by host telling us about what we're actually trying to watch , cut down on the narrative mister! Thanks.
It doesn't simulate jumping out of the plane. Its to teach them not to fear heights