What tank should we play next? And I'm just thinking that with the low profile, decent speed mobility and good armor, plus mouse controlled missiles that the IT-1 is the best ATGM in the game currently. It's a widow maker. Which do you think is the best atgm?
Who wants a realistic tank game? ... Alright, your tracks are hit... You lose You got penned, and lost a crewman. Your crew is demoralized and tries to escape the tank
there has to be a line between realism and game mechanics. where the line is drawn is up to the devs. i have played russian tanks, US tanks and now UK tanks, and i like this game (eventhough it has its flaws).
jean-francoise marco I know, people say there is Russian bias in War thunder. There isn't, and the cases where it seems like there is: 1) The vehicle is still being developed (Like the Tu-4, I guarantee they just gave it the stats of a B-29 because they are finishing up the stats) 2) T-34s... They really were some of the best fucking tanks! People seem to misunderstand the fact that yes, the Germans had high-tech weaponry and have a lot of urban legends surrounding their Panzers and Tigers, but in the end, the T-34 was still beating them throughout the war! The Russians built (and build) some of the best vehicles in modern times. And I am not Biased towards the Russians (Even if I have a soviet symbol as my picture) The picture is from one of my stories in an alternate timeline.
Frostbite Yet it was one of few tanks report to actually deflect 88s occasionally... And could combat tigers, something the Sherman couldn't. The T-34 is a better tank than the Tiger or the Sherman (If we are talking about the "iconic" tanks of WW2 that everyone knows) And I acknowledge the flaws the T-34 had, but there were more flaws in the Tiger, and WAY more flaws in the Sherman. +Faster and Cheaper than a Tiger +More commonly equipped with stronger guns than Shermans (Not talking about the British firefly) +Better armor than the Sherman and (in some ways) Tiger.
in RL the t-34 was worse then any wwii tank...... they broke down when gettng of the assembly line where a totally wreck after even a 50mm shell pennetrated the only way the t-34 bounced a 88 was at an extreme angle which rarly happened of the 60.000 t-34's made only a handfull of 2000 made it out alive... Wasnt faster and cheaper then a tiger 1 Tiger 1 could reach 45km/h in under 20 seconds an t-34 could get 50km/h in 18km/h however it has a higher top speed a tiger 1 was certainly not a slow monster thats all propaganda ask any sherman tanker they will tell you that a tiger 1 was beastly fast for a heavy tank and suprised allot of allied tankers the early t-34's of which the most where made of used worse guns then the sherman tanks such as the 57/76mm cannons the 85 where only on around 5000 made and the 100 was only on a selected few the russian 85 was unrealiable inaccurate and was even worse at range its reload was garbage because the loader had no space in the cramped turret so it took over 10-20 seconds to reload better armor no... russian armor was to hard casted metal which made it spall at even small ammo such as the german 37 and 50mm cannon t-34 had only 45mm armor and 90 at most in the turret a tiger 1 had over 200mm penetration and had APCBC shells which make angled armor less effective (the T-34 was only a god machine before the Panzer IVs got there long 75 and the panther and tiger arrived) which wasnt long as in 1942 the tiger 1 joined the game the tiger was capeble of deflecting ever russian AT cannon till the IS-2's then the tiger 2 got made rinse and repeat germany went for quillity over quantity
+Ben S I do have the IS3 and I know how it is to use it, I am just not used to comments under WT videos where people say that a Russian tank can be bad
Quote"It saw a very limited service between 1968 and 1970. The large deadzone around the tank created by the missiles' minimum range combined with the limited amount of ammunition carried made it unpopular with the military. Also, the 520 kg of guidance equipment needed for the missile was impractical. Eventually, the tanks were converted into recovery vehicles. A turbine-powered version was also developed named the IT-1T." Never seemed good in realty so its far to good in game.
Hey baron, this is off topic but I was thinking that since you love seeing the experimental and just downright odd vehicles in war thunder, do you think you could try out making a video of you just digging through the web trying to find aircraft that never saw the light of day? Like the TB2D Skypirate or the XC-120 Packplane? I think it would be a really fun idea
I grinded so hard for the Maus because it used to be one of the best tanks. Update after update, Chieftain, and now ATGM's and the Maus can't even angle its turret to avoid penetration... Now griding British tree line for another year. Except this time I'm not using any money. Thanks, Gaijin.
Funny how in WT with the IT-1 it's easier to fire on the move, while in reality the IT-1 had to remain stationary from the moment the targeting system started calculating a firing solution right until the missile impacted. Also the missile couldn't be fired at point-blank ranges and it had worse penetration than tank guns of that time. But hey! It's a game! Fuck historical accuracy! Let's make a Bob Semple tank and make it OP!
Id love to see if this works as a AA vehicle when needed, not for taking ou bombers at extreme range but the aircraft that players bring into arcade, or similar to your KV 2 vid just a load of these trying to splash some bomber pilots
well the U.S. have a powerful bomber like the B36 peace maker with 16x 20mm cannons and which is computer assisted, so you just point on the enemy and it will hit the target. if it was a Russian aircraft, it would have been added.
For balance sake they should have went with the PT-76 with the Malyutka launcher. Its armor would have been fairly similar to the Raketenjagdpanzer and the Sheridan.
One time I was playing either World of Tanks or War Thunder and one of my teammates wouldn't stop ramming me and shooting me with his mg so I shot him once so he would leave me alone and accidentally one shot him and he blew up. Which would be normal if I wasn't in a Panzer III while he was in a way better tank. Don't remember what he had.
13:34 Mauss with camouflage?? sure... we can never see Mauss with dat bush Xp
8 лет назад
The thing with Russian tanks is they used to have a pretty nice slope, which was rendered useless with the Pz.IV F2 and onwards, unlike ingame, where even the driver's hatch of a T-34 is a hard point, while in reality that's where a Pz.IV F2 would prefer shooting at, since it would blow the little Soviet up. Another thing that won't happen in game, either, is that the Russian guns, when they hit, hit hard, yes... IF they hit: they had really bad accuracy, while in game they have German accuracy, rendering glass cannon stupid useless for 1) small maps 2) Russian guns being as good for some magic reason as German guns. So I find it funny people say there's no Russian bias, because if you analyze it, at least in ground forces (specially early ones), there is.
to answer your question, and im sorry this is from months back just getting into your stuff, very nice. But its not Russian bias, the russians did have better tanks after WW2 due to the man fact of the arms race. they knew they could never defeat the us in the air, so instead of pushing tons of money into their flight program he shunted it into their armored unit production and research. Even today they have better ground armor compared to the US. the Armatas greatly out class our M1A1s, with its full automated turret and the ability to still be run with only one crew member easily. Not to mention its ability for the turret to take control of the main cannon when it senses a wire guided rocket (TOW missiles and the like) to turn an fire on the spot at the would be missile launcher. So no its not bias, they did have better tanks
The most important point is that design parameters that aren't or even can't be implemented in game were/are really decisive in the real life performance of these vehicles These include (but not limited to): crew comfort (space, seating positions, crowding of space, suspension, etc...), and equipment like fire control systems, comms (let nazi tanks storm europe with ease), stabilisers, and range finders (range finders are what let a handful of Israeli centurions defend against a syrian T54/55 horde).
Theres nothing wrong with the bombing tanks just need better ways of protecting themselves. the camo paint and the bush camo is a good start. but we need active smoke pods/ shells and armor upgrades to become available
It's a matter of perspective. IRL IT-1 was super bad because it can only go against armoured vehicles, when army need infantry support (95% of the time) this thing is completely useless. While armour is amazing it's nothing special against tanks of that time (and top tier tanks in the game).
War thunder in the last 2 days has gone proper "Silent hill". I mean so many battles and im killed at battle start close to my spawn not just me the entire team.I was in a rb battle stalingrad just spawned and i got hit from 3 directions then my team mate drove in front of my panther 2 and begged me to kill him?.
one thing youve got to remember about why russian armor they did so well is because when the russians deployed armor they deployed close to double or triple the amount of armor the enemy did. you should read the book. The Tigers are Burning. it is extremely enlightening as to the success of russian armor tactics and hardware. WT ign LIONofNOLA
Those MG idiots dont realize that every time they do that, they are giving your position away to the enemy. So annoying, especially as they are in enemy territory, and nearly deserves a TK IMO.
So, does Baron and Slick not play with Phly anymore? I unsubbed from him months ago but I haven't seen or heard him in a single one of either of their videos since.
The russian/soviet stuff wasn't/isn't necessarely better. I just think they fit the War Thunder meta better than the ones from other nations. In real life how good a tank is (or was in this case) comes down to more than just what makes it good in War Thunder.
What tank should we play next?
And I'm just thinking that with the low profile, decent speed mobility and good armor, plus mouse controlled missiles that the IT-1 is the best ATGM in the game currently. It's a widow maker. Which do you think is the best atgm?
I need to give the Raketenjagdpanzer a decent look, but until then I'd have to agree with you
the Stug III F
Jumbo w 76
LVT!!!
Do the Sturer Emil next!
Who wants a realistic tank game?
... Alright, your tracks are hit... You lose
You got penned, and lost a crewman. Your crew is demoralized and tries to escape the tank
there has to be a line between realism and game mechanics. where the line is drawn is up to the devs. i have played russian tanks, US tanks and now UK tanks, and i like this game (eventhough it has its flaws).
jean-francoise marco I know, people say there is Russian bias in War thunder.
There isn't, and the cases where it seems like there is:
1) The vehicle is still being developed (Like the Tu-4, I guarantee they just gave it the stats of a B-29 because they are finishing up the stats)
2) T-34s... They really were some of the best fucking tanks! People seem to misunderstand the fact that yes, the Germans had high-tech weaponry and have a lot of urban legends surrounding their Panzers and Tigers, but in the end, the T-34 was still beating them throughout the war! The Russians built (and build) some of the best vehicles in modern times.
And I am not Biased towards the Russians (Even if I have a soviet symbol as my picture) The picture is from one of my stories in an alternate timeline.
+Caelo de Vorago T-34 was just good because of the numbers made
Frostbite Yet it was one of few tanks report to actually deflect 88s occasionally...
And could combat tigers, something the Sherman couldn't.
The T-34 is a better tank than the Tiger or the Sherman (If we are talking about the "iconic" tanks of WW2 that everyone knows)
And I acknowledge the flaws the T-34 had, but there were more flaws in the Tiger, and WAY more flaws in the Sherman.
+Faster and Cheaper than a Tiger
+More commonly equipped with stronger guns than Shermans (Not talking about the British firefly)
+Better armor than the Sherman and (in some ways) Tiger.
in RL the t-34 was worse then any wwii tank...... they broke down when gettng of the assembly line where a totally wreck after even a 50mm shell pennetrated the only way the t-34 bounced a 88 was at an extreme angle which rarly happened of the 60.000 t-34's made only a handfull of 2000 made it out alive...
Wasnt faster and cheaper then a tiger 1
Tiger 1 could reach 45km/h in under 20 seconds an t-34 could get 50km/h in 18km/h however it has a higher top speed a tiger 1 was certainly not a slow monster thats all propaganda ask any sherman tanker they will tell you that a tiger 1 was beastly fast for a heavy tank and suprised allot of allied tankers
the early t-34's of which the most where made of used worse guns then the sherman tanks such as the 57/76mm cannons the 85 where only on around 5000 made and the 100 was only on a selected few
the russian 85 was unrealiable inaccurate and was even worse at range its reload was garbage because the loader had no space in the cramped turret so it took over 10-20 seconds to reload
better armor no... russian armor was to hard casted metal which made it spall at even small ammo such as the german 37 and 50mm cannon t-34 had only 45mm armor and 90 at most in the turret a tiger 1 had over 200mm penetration and had APCBC shells which make angled armor less effective (the T-34 was only a god machine before the Panzer IVs got there long 75 and the panther and tiger arrived) which wasnt long as in 1942 the tiger 1 joined the game the tiger was capeble of deflecting ever russian AT cannon till the IS-2's then the tiger 2 got made rinse and repeat germany went for quillity over quantity
The Sturer Emil!!!
I agree
yes
IS3, to feel the pain of getting clubbed by heat and Cold War mbts.
And the pain of shooting peas.
russian bias ...
Sebastian Bach try playing in the IS3 and let me know how you fair. :)
+Ben S I do have the IS3 and I know how it is to use it, I am just not used to comments under WT videos where people say that a Russian tank can be bad
good idea
Baron, do you even Stug 3 F bro?
Nein
ze germans are comming!!!!
Pls do the T95 with the new shell
agree!
Yeah!
Quote"It saw a very limited service between 1968 and 1970. The large deadzone around the tank created by the missiles' minimum range combined with the limited amount of ammunition carried made it unpopular with the military. Also, the 520 kg of guidance equipment needed for the missile was impractical. Eventually, the tanks were converted into recovery vehicles. A turbine-powered version was also developed named the IT-1T."
Never seemed good in realty so its far to good in game.
Try the ASU-85 it is really good
I would love to see you play the IT-1 on larger maps like kursk where you can do some sniping. Great video anyway :)
BEAROWN your new intro is super dank.
I want M103 Depleted Uranium rounds.
+Colton Shumate Only in America
Terrain Occlusion is still an issue with IR Guided missiles. Things like smoke and debris seems to affect their guidance drastically.
love that fucking intro man.keep up the good work
I don't like it so much
+T. J. I do, he's obviously having fun.
does any one know the name of this song?
+xXx_420Pu$$y_Destroyer69_xXx.mlg fu** off m8
+that strange guy over there Its A Trap By Jack Elphick
I have hit a captured KV-1 on the move in a Sherman 76. It just requires some lead. And to make matters worse. I was going full speed.
While I am not a fan of the ATGM vehicles, I have to say the M551 is pretty baller.
The intro 😍😍😍😍 too good
Hey baron, this is off topic but I was thinking that since you love seeing the experimental and just downright odd vehicles in war thunder, do you think you could try out making a video of you just digging through the web trying to find aircraft that never saw the light of day? Like the TB2D Skypirate or the XC-120 Packplane? I think it would be a really fun idea
you should do a tier 1 reserve Tank RB with tier 1 reserve planes and just do a whole series hilighting the best tank plane combos for RB
Baron also they should give the Sherman's their smoke rounds for realistic battles
I grinded so hard for the Maus because it used to be one of the best tanks. Update after update, Chieftain, and now ATGM's and the Maus can't even angle its turret to avoid penetration...
Now griding British tree line for another year. Except this time I'm not using any money. Thanks, Gaijin.
I suggest you invade Russia. That'll teach them from messing with you
Christian Kneupper Kinda hard to do from hell. Would you like to help me?
Next pls play the Bolo in air RB!!!
Phly vs Baron opinion on best atgm tank fight!!!!
Funny how in WT with the IT-1 it's easier to fire on the move, while in reality the IT-1 had to remain stationary from the moment the targeting system started calculating a firing solution right until the missile impacted.
Also the missile couldn't be fired at point-blank ranges and it had worse penetration than tank guns of that time.
But hey! It's a game! Fuck historical accuracy! Let's make a Bob Semple tank and make it OP!
I believe all ATGM vehicles have to stop to fire IRL .
Also I guess they can add the BRDM-2 variant with ATGMS, at least one of the old ones.
Smoke grenade launchers would be a kick ass feature
Id love to see if this works as a AA vehicle when needed, not for taking ou bombers at extreme range but the aircraft that players bring into arcade, or similar to your KV 2 vid just a load of these trying to splash some bomber pilots
Baron, do a custom battle where you use the TU-4's bottom turrets to gunship the shit out of some tier 1 tanks / SPAA. No bombs, just turrets.
well the U.S. have a powerful bomber like the B36 peace maker with 16x 20mm cannons and which is computer assisted, so you just point on the enemy and it will hit the target. if it was a Russian aircraft, it would have been added.
For balance sake they should have went with the PT-76 with the Malyutka launcher. Its armor would have been fairly similar to the Raketenjagdpanzer and the Sheridan.
That intro Doe....Baron...give us a vid with that entire song
baron baron baron, where'd you get your golden eagles?
May the force be with you Mr. Kenobi control you apprentice Anakin Skywalker bulldog
Baron: The Tu-4 should preform better or just as well. This is because the russians got 200 more horsepower out of each of the engines
Whats his intro song
One time I was playing either World of Tanks or War Thunder and one of my teammates wouldn't stop ramming me and shooting me with his mg so I shot him once so he would leave me alone and accidentally one shot him and he blew up. Which would be normal if I wasn't in a Panzer III while he was in a way better tank. Don't remember what he had.
Murica stronk: -Cobra King
-P47 rockets and bombs
sickest into on RUclips
your missiles have gone crazy because your launcher was damaged
13:34 Mauss with camouflage?? sure... we can never see Mauss with dat bush Xp
The thing with Russian tanks is they used to have a pretty nice slope, which was rendered useless with the Pz.IV F2 and onwards, unlike ingame, where even the driver's hatch of a T-34 is a hard point, while in reality that's where a Pz.IV F2 would prefer shooting at, since it would blow the little Soviet up. Another thing that won't happen in game, either, is that the Russian guns, when they hit, hit hard, yes... IF they hit: they had really bad accuracy, while in game they have German accuracy, rendering glass cannon stupid useless for 1) small maps 2) Russian guns being as good for some magic reason as German guns. So I find it funny people say there's no Russian bias, because if you analyze it, at least in ground forces (specially early ones), there is.
Two Missiles! We can't repel fire power of the Magnitude!!!!
I love your new intro baron!
Fun fact: the Strv in Strv 81 means "Stridsvagn" in Swedish, literally "Tank".
i got the stv 81 and is pritty good but the rockets take so long to reload but to me it also has mouse controle rockets
Baron a challenge proposal! The cromwell RP-3 in tier 8!
baron you should play the m22 locust
Please, Baron, please make a video about adding the sturmtiger to war thunder. It would be amazing to own such a beast.
Were is the historical fact in that, that you can control the misel on one tank with mouse and on the other tank you controlle it with WASD?
best tank. So much fun to play
I seems the guided missiles are a little bit unfair in realistic battles, easy to aim on any distance
what is the intro song called?
This tank survives way to much^^
what tier and state is this tank
hey baron you ever going to bring back world of warship
to answer your question, and im sorry this is from months back just getting into your stuff, very nice. But its not Russian bias, the russians did have better tanks after WW2 due to the man fact of the arms race. they knew they could never defeat the us in the air, so instead of pushing tons of money into their flight program he shunted it into their armored unit production and research. Even today they have better ground armor compared to the US. the Armatas greatly out class our M1A1s, with its full automated turret and the ability to still be run with only one crew member easily. Not to mention its ability for the turret to take control of the main cannon when it senses a wire guided rocket (TOW missiles and the like) to turn an fire on the spot at the would be missile launcher. So no its not bias, they did have better tanks
The monster in The soldier You don't know what you're talking a about.
Actually I do man.
The most important point is that design parameters that aren't or even can't be implemented in game were/are really decisive in the real life performance of these vehicles
These include (but not limited to): crew comfort (space, seating positions, crowding of space, suspension, etc...), and equipment like fire control systems, comms (let nazi tanks storm europe with ease), stabilisers, and range finders (range finders are what let a handful of Israeli centurions defend against a syrian T54/55 horde).
does somebody know the intro song
Theres nothing wrong with the bombing tanks just need better ways of protecting themselves. the camo paint and the bush camo is a good start. but we need active smoke pods/ shells and armor upgrades to become available
DAT INTRO THOUGH
Baron Baron where do you spend your golden eagles?
In Iraq
I spend them on Doner Kebap
BaronVonGamez Bruh try some baklava and chill
baron, see how many tanks 1 rocket can go through
Gaijin buffs bombs, people complains "It's op"
Gaijin nerfs bombs, people complains "we can't kill anything". Because people, people never changes
gaijin nerf the splash damage to the planes of the bombs
later....
gaijin bombers fly to low plz nerf
lol why is bombing broken? pls explain
What is ur favorite rocket tenk?
+BaronVonGamez GG
Can you play t34-85 good days
Baron, idea for custom. IT-1 vs M22 Locusts
I want you to play a tank made out of rainbows... or the american t28 proto.
Strv 81 pls!!!!
which you make more world of warship videos
And then Sabres rebalance MiG-17 with supersonic dives and Sidewinders.
what is the most dangerous tank then?
Playing the Maus must be very frustrating right now?
What is snapshotting?
It's a matter of perspective. IRL IT-1 was super bad because it can only go against armoured vehicles, when army need infantry support (95% of the time) this thing is completely useless. While armour is amazing it's nothing special against tanks of that time (and top tier tanks in the game).
So I was playing war thunder and watching this and I just killed 11 enemies in one life
hey boron your rocket hit a another tank and you killed 2 tanks with one shot at 20:53
War thunder in the last 2 days has gone proper "Silent hill".
I mean so many battles and im killed at battle start close to my spawn not just me the entire team.I was in a rb battle stalingrad just spawned and i got hit from 3 directions then my team mate drove in front of my panther 2 and begged me to kill him?.
All the team died at spawn even the mighty tiger 2 tanks folded and burned in spawn from t34 100's.
The tu-4 was a reverse-engineered copy of the b-29
one thing youve got to remember about why russian armor they did so well is because when the russians deployed armor they deployed close to double or triple the amount of armor the enemy did.
you should read the book. The Tigers are Burning. it is extremely enlightening as to the success of russian armor tactics and hardware.
WT ign LIONofNOLA
and why many games code in a messed up russian bias
Man....I totally forgot about the epic replays.....XD
i like the intro
Play the ASU-85 for Soviet Russia and the great Stalin!!
pls what is that intro song???
Those MG idiots dont realize that every time they do that, they are giving your position away to the enemy. So annoying, especially as they are in enemy territory, and nearly deserves a TK IMO.
t95 with the new shell
Baron you may not believe in russian bias but russian bias believes in you.
So, does Baron and Slick not play with Phly anymore? I unsubbed from him months ago but I haven't seen or heard him in a single one of either of their videos since.
5:30 im hearing weird sound on background
Take Out the SU-122-54 :D underrated bias axaxax
I love the Intro Beat .. i Need to know its name
I like your new intro baron!😉
baron can you play the super hellcat plz your choice of plane
Play the M103 with Nuke rounds or The T54 or gulag
Next time play a Matilda and become a Dragqueen of deserts
The STRV is a pack I thought
Yo is there anyone who knows the name of the intro song??
Intro song?
The russian/soviet stuff wasn't/isn't necessarely better. I just think they fit the War Thunder meta better than the ones from other nations. In real life how good a tank is (or was in this case) comes down to more than just what makes it good in War Thunder.
confirmed baron payed by war-thunder to excuse missiles...
It's suppose to be wire guided, so trees are a no go mate...