I decided at the ripe 'ol age of 64 to learn how to ice skate. I bought a pair of Jackson Ultima and after having the blades sharpened, I baked the skates at home myself. I just completed the basic level one class and I'm looking to continue to move up. I found your video to be of great help, especially with tying the laces up the hooks! Thanks a bunch.
I'm an adult beginner starting ice skating in my 20s and I just purchased the Jackson Mystique with Mark II blades. Tried them on the ice today and having your own pair of skates does make a big difference (as long as they're cared for and maintained well). This video showed me how to properly lace my skates without applying too much pressure and avoidng the crushed toes feeling I normally experience during a skate session. First time I've had NO PAIN after my skate session (the insides of my skates are cushioned too). Thank you so much!
Great video! I would add one more step, for safety reasons, especially as skaters advance in skills. You pointed out that blades can catch on large loops of the final bow tie, but any loop big enough to admit the toe or the heel of the blade could cause a problem when skating involves close feet. To prevent any possibility of the blade catching a loop of the laces, wrap the loops around the hooks so that they are not accessible. This works better than trying to tuck the bunny ears into the boot, because those tucked loops always seem to work their way out of hiding. Alternatively, one could use boot covers to hide the laces (an additional expense) or wear skating pants that are long enough and wide enough to pull down over the laces.
My experience with skating (in Jacksons), if I have to retie my skates multiple times, and have to have to lace my laces back down the skate a few notches, that's a good indicator that my skates are breaking down. I'm one of those skaters that tends to break down my skates much more from the inside than the outside.
Just want to add to this- if you’re noticing you beed to retie your laces during your session, you shoukd change your laces. Especially with Edeas, and some Risports, the sides of the boot are meant to remain fixed, and all if the flex comes from the tongue and laces. So, if you’re having to tighten your laces, it means you are now going to try to “take them with you” meaning, take the sides of the boots with you when you bend, as you do with traditional leather skates. With Edea, laces should be changed every 4-6 weeks, and the sides of the boots should never crease. With most models of Jackson and Reidell, however, the boots aren’t broken in UNTIL they form a crease, although now days they often have a flex notch, allowing the skater to bend to some extent right away before the boots are broken in.
I did do that with my previous skates, and I was still having to retie them. I still ended up needing new skates, and I tend to break my skates down from the inside.
I was thinking about getting edeas but after seeing how loose they are in the ankle, I don't think I'll do that. I have hyper mobility and the loose ankle will cause injury to me.
@@trashcant69 I did actually try some and they didn't work for me at all. The heel was way too loose and my ankle got injured. So I now have Jackson's and I'm doing much better. Every foot is different I guess.
.... i also saw that and was like "not for me" (and i heard/read somewhere that they are 1 quite expensive even for beginner-level boots, and 2 break down faster than others.... so more expensive and not as durable....) I got graf skates and am really happy with them.
Those boot levels are meant gor children. Adults, even beginners, need to start out with the mid to high level of support. For Edea, that means maybe Chorus if you’re less than 130lbs, otherwise go with Concerto or Ice Fly. For Risport, I suggest Royal Pro or Prime, for Jackson, nothing lower than Freestyle, and for Riedell, you’ll want at least Motion, or higher, but ge careful going too stiff with Reidell, as they will impede your progress and the break in can be very painful. It’s not teally possible to overboot in Edea or Risport, but there is certainly a risk to underboot for adults in each brand, if they rely on the size chart. They shouldnt even make most of those boots in anything higher than a size 4 or 240.
Thank you so much for your the video! Tomorrow my daughter will have the first skating class, I will follow your instructions to keep her be safe! Your video is very helpful!
Thank you so much for the video! Can you please share your feelings while skating on Edeas being so loose! I lace my edeas crasily tight! How can you land a jump when your ankle wabbles around? I know about "Your ankle should be tight and what's above should be loose." But do they mean that loose? Thanks in advance of you answer!))))
If you are finding yourself needing to lace your Edeas crazy tightly, you need to change your laces much more often. When you tie them tight, you are going to cause the sides of the boots to flex with your ankle when you bend, instead of remaining stable like they’re meant to. And, unlike traditional leather boots that are meant to act like a stronger second skin and move with your ankle when you flex, Edea boots have plastic reinforcements inside between the outer leather, and interior memory foam and lining, which is meant to hold it’s form and if you continue to tie them tighter, you will eventually break that plastic and destroy your boots, like what happened to Evgenia Medvedeva, forcing her to withdraw from the European Championships.
I love it. I woukd go back and forth how to lace my jacsons. Tha k younfor giving me a definite best way to have confortable skating. At least the lacing, now I need to see the bottom.at my feet. It gets tired fast.
6:43, you did not tie a “square knot”. The knot you tied can come loose very easily. This is absolutely crucial and was taught to me by a skate technician many years ago. The knot should be tied backwards from how you have it, the opposite lace goes under. A square knot will never come loose.
Thank you for the video, just wondering can I use the way lacing EDEA to lace Jackson boots? I always find it is quite difficult to bend knees when lacing the boot too tight on the top.
You mean leaving enough space on top of the skates that allows you to bend? NO. Edea are made just for that and still manage to give you support. The other brands also use that part to hold you in. It could be that your shoe is too hard for you/your skill level. If that is not the case... you could tie it slightly less tight (just slightly), it should still give you plenty support. Another option is this: Its the way it was explained to me at the pro-shop i got them. Do everything as she said for the Jackson, but dont go over-under, but go under-over (like you would tie eg hiking boots) That way it allows for a bit more movenent. I deliberately use it that way, and after wearing them for over a season, they are starting to get softer, so if i feel like they are too soft i can switch to the over-under. The difference between the 2 ways is how firm it holds it... so it makes sense that if your skills are a bit lower in the beginning and the new shoe really firm, you can (and maybe should) allow for more movement in the laces. Later when you get better and the shoe gets softer, switch to the other one to keep your foot secure and stay safe and comfortable.
Hello! My name is Pedro. I am loving your RUclips Chanel ! I am from Brazil and here we don’t have ice rinks 😞. I fell really sad because I never had the opportunity to practice figure skating. I complete love the pairs and the ice dance competition. Now I decided to buy the artistic inline frame by Roll Line Linea. I am really exited about it because I can simulate the ice skating using this frame at least. I already have 36 years old but I hope to learn at least double jumps. But I am confused about the boots. I bought an Risport RF3 pro black size 290. But this boot looks very open at the top. Is this normal? I am confused if I bought the right size. I sent an video with the boots moving from left to right. Is normal this type of moviment? Or the boot is not supporting my foot properly? Sorry for so many questions. I hope to decide about boot size very soon and mount my new skate to practice your teachings . Thank you very much for your attention .
Pedro - hope you see this message !! - this is awesome! Inline skatinh is so much fun! But wheels are different ;) ... When our rink collapsed in the snow and never rebuilt, I had to skate. Somehow i had to skate.. i missed the smell of the ice ! But when Olympic Gold Dorothy Hamill was living close to me in Palm Springs California (that is the desert - no water) she began roller blading. I thought I could too. I bought a German brand skate (precision and they were fast & SMOOTH). Took them to the beach...Venice Beach California. Look it it up. Fun place! I loved skating at the beach. I learned very quickly. It will be good skating where you are. You will love it because your ❤ is there.. I began inline skating at age 45. Do it! Never give up! Wear your gear at first. Get your quads nice and strong then skate ⛸ 🏖. Follow your heart. And have fun! From your friend! an American girl. We are loving people here in the States...not like news. 💕 Hope by now you are a champion! 🥇 :) An American girl
@@lisabaltzer4190awwwhhhh Venice Beach! My daughter used to live there. You're so lucky you got out of Calif. Ive thought so much about moving to Boise or Couer d'laine... Visited friends in Boise (Nampa) a few years ago and didn't want to come home it was so lovely. You probably are happier now that you've moved out of state?? Calif is a dump and Los Angeles was ruined by Gascon. So sad bc it was one a great place to live, as you well know. One of my other gf (from Venice Beach!) left last year for Florida and loves it down there. I wanna be happy where I live and Southern Calif now has 6 months of Summer which I'm not a fan of.. Not to mention the traffic!!! LOL . Do wish you the best tho ! Enjoy your new home! 🌹 blessings!
@@missygee531 Thank you for your kind words. I graduated from Venice High School. I moved to Coeur D’Alene in 2004. My husband and I took a vacation here in 2003 and decided that we had enough of Los Angeles and sold our business and house and moved up here. We have never regretted it for one day. I am happy that my husband spent his last years here in this beautiful place. Unfortunately, house prices have gone into the ozone layer in the last 3 years and prices have actually doubled in most neighborhoods making it hard for a first time home owner to even consider buying here. There are almost no houses under $500k, even if they are a falling down dump.
Thank you so so much, my ice skates ⛸ just arrived today and I was wearing them for the first time ever and lacing them for the first time whilst watching this, it was very useful, and less complicated than the other video I watched where it said to put your skates in the oven!
Should you tie it so that at the tongue at the top it is not very tight but instead room where you can fit your finger in it? Would that help being able to bend your knees? I always thought the top shouldn’t be very tight, is that correct?
Thanks! Is it true that if you live Edeas too tight they will break quicker? I’m not comfortable having them “loose” since I just switched from Jackson’s for 10 years and used to be extremely tight
Yes, there is plastic reinforcements in Edeas that are meant to stay rigid in place and not move with your ankle when you bend, like traditional leather skates. If you tie your Edeas too tight, you will force the sides of the boot to move with your ankle when you bend, causing that plastic to deform or break. If you feel you need more support in your Edeas, you need to change your laces more often. When I wore Ice Fly, I had to change laces every 6 weeks or so. I could tell it was time because I would feel the need to retie them during my sessions. Ultimately, though, Edeas are not for me, as I have very skinny, weak ankles and miss the feeling of the traditional leather boots tied snugly around my ankles and supporting me as I flex. Edeas are great for a lot of skaters but you must have perfect alignment when taking off and landing jumps, making sure to always keep your hips, knees, ankles and toes aligned so you flex straight forward, with the heal locked in, without relying on the sides of the boot
for edea, the way to tie is OUT-IN, if you don't know this very bad professional. Only need to read the card that is provided with the boots or in Edea Web Side...
How long are figure skates supposed to last. I've had my Jackson's for almost four years now and lately I've had to double rap my laces around the prongs so they don't get lose. When should I get new skates?
How long they last depends on what skills you're doing and how often you skate. Four years is a long time. Your coach should tell you when it is time to buy new ones, but having to constantly fix your laces is one sign. You may also notice less ankle support. Sounds like you are long over due for new skates.
@@ACL7211 I’m only still on the basic levels. I’m on basic 6. But I’m competing in basic 4 in September. Could I wait to buy new skates after my competition?
@@maxb4403 I got new skates for Christmas but unfortunately they don’t really fit. They’re OBX Classics. They’re a little too big. My ankles are still getting lose and my toes don’t go all the way up to the top of the boots. I feel fine in them but obviously they don’t support me very well. Our skating director told me she’s getting some old Jackson Mystiques from her other students that she’d be giving to me. But is that a good idea to have a pair of old skates as my new pair?
@@kkstar1297 generally it is ok to have an old pair as a first, but new is always better and the key thing is that they fit well and support ur ankles. Also make sure they arent too old and wore away cos they might rub.
I am a very new person to ice skating , and I have Graf 500 ice skates and I don’t know of I’ve laced them properly. Whenever I tend to lean my shin forwards the top makes a creaking noise? I haven’t seen any tutorials on them and I’ve tried to tie them like the Jackson’s. 😅😅 great video though
Hi!! I just got new boots and the middle section of my foot (your second section after the toe box) cramps horribly when I skate to where I can only skate 15 minutes. I tie that middle section super tight...is that my error? Because when my feet are in the boot but not tied, I don't have that pain. Can you please advise me?
Hi Sounds like you could be over tightening, and squashing the tendons across the top of your foot. Try lacing from outside to inside ( lace goes through the lace holes from the outside of the lace holes to the inside. ) this will allow you to tighten firmly and hold without over tightening. Also it depends on the fitting in the boots you have, if the length and width are correct. Try re lacing and not over tightening first. ⛸
@@clareupton2025 thanks for this and Light for the question. I am a new skater and I'm having similar issues - a lot of pain in my feet. I think it's very likely that I am also overtightening my laces :)
I personally have never had a problem with It and I have had 3 pairs of Jackson skates. I’m not sure what the problem is, but I would definitely recommend looking into it.
What can i do if the tingue of my boot is not as "deep" inside the boot/against the leg? I think my leg is a bit wider so the tongue barley touches against the sides of the boot. Is that bad?
Idk about risport, but other brands (Graf and i think jackson as well) have different shoes for foot width, so maybe getting the wide one would be an option. Or if its just a tiiiiny bit too tight you can have them stretched out in the front/widened at the skates shop.
Risport Electra Light are for children. Adults can’t rely on the support ratings, and should go for the higher mid-range to top of the line models, in every brand. You would want to look at Risport Royal Pro.
I have tiny feet. I was looking on eBay to see if I could get a pair of decent ice skates for a good price. Up pops a pair of brand new, never had blades mounted, pair of Klingbeil SA 3 boots for a starting bid of $66.00. Nobody but me bid on them and I got them for $66.49. I suppose some child outgrew them before they got the boot order filled and they sat in the closet for a few years, because those boots are no longer made. Not many skaters today would even know about that brand, so that is probably why I was the only bidder.
Wow you got a great deal! Klingbeils were custom made for the skater though, so a lot of people won’t want to take the risk and if SA 3 means size 3 A, that’s a tiny, narrow foot. You will probably always be able to find amazing deals on skates if that is your size!
@@lisazitzmann920 SA3 means it is the top model. It is a stiffness rating. I wear a 4 A . The boots were a perfect fit. I also got a great deal recently on a pair of Avanta boots that I will use for my inline roller skates. Avanta is a Klingbeil clone. I get good skate deals, but if I want a pair of heels to wear with a dress, I am SOL , unless I special order them online. People where I live are Sasquatches 😆. I did however get a screaming deal on a pair of Sponge Bob shoes here in town 😁. P.S. Seemingly, I wear the size that kids wear when they give up skating to do something else. I have seen many good deals on eBay in my size.
Yep 4A, lucky you! I’m a size 9 shoe, narrow but now I’m older, I need split width. I’m wearing a pair of Risport Royal Primes newest model, I got almost new off eBay for 60! They had been temp mounted and worn once. I love them for coaching but I’m getting custom Avantas for my own skating. It’s $2000 now 😬
thinking of buying the 2nd cheapest in line of Rondo's. but i roller skate? can i sue my old Snyder plates for this type of boot or do i need that brand to use? i' m on a budget, i don't compete anymore i retired 26 years ago i only skate for the exercise but i 'm picky and like the feel of a figure boot. i 've been skating over 40 years? but need new boots, i don't like cheap plates of my newer skates
My Jackson Classique 5B took some heat molding to fit my feet right (initially it was too tight.) I have a pair of Jackson Artiste 5.5 B, which feels a bit too long for my feet (230mm long.) In Edea Chorus and Ice Fly I take size 240C. I also have a pair of Risport RF3 Pro 235C, which is just a bit too short. They press my big toe, so next time I get a pair of Risport I'll get a size 240C. This information may or may not help you. In my experience sometimes it may feel all right off ice, but once I use them on ice I get pressure points or even pain when I do certain moves. Good luck finding your best fit skates.
@@chiutwan hi! my feet are the same length as yours. can I know your feet width? i wanted to get risprot electra in size 240 too but I'm concerned about my feet width
@@yenirohmalinda My feet are wide in the ball part, but quite thin overall. I'm not sure which part to measure for the "width" information you're seeking. I go with the C width for Risport skates and find them comfortable. I hope this helps.
I have risport Electra and every time I land a jump my ankle bends to the side making me fall out of it and I tied it just like how you did idk what’s wrong with it
Are you an adult? Or teenager? I wouldn’t put anyone older than 10-11 with size 225 or smaller in Electra. They don’t have enough support in the bigger sizes for bigger, stronger skaters. You are going to badly injure your ankles and never be able to jump again if you don’t upgrade
from personal experience, there doesn’t seem to be any significant experience between the stiffness of edea, jackson, and risport tongues. however, i really love risport tongues since they’re thicker with more padding so that deep knee bends are a lot more comfortable.
Здравствуйте, подскажите пожалуйста, нам на примере edea показали как правильно они выглядят на ноге? Или на оборот что они слишком слобо затянуты? Обьесните мне пожалуйста этот момент с edea, просто мне не очень понятно
Edea and Risport should be laced from the outside, in. I can’t believe you’re putting out this entire video with the boots laced incorrectly. I’m glad i watched the entire thing before continuing to recommend this video to parents. What a shame, because it would be a great resource, otherwise. Is there a reason you don’t follow Edea’s recommendations for lacing, or was this just an oversight?
Ive been ice skating and in lessons for a few years but never really researched about it and light bulbs are going off in my head watching this realising how many things ive been doing wrong😭
@@scifigrl23 i ordered them in person, she told me 7-10 days but i feel like they are gonna take longer than that seeing that i have competition in a few weeks. i just didn’t know so i went around asking other people on their videos.
The tongue of the boot bites right at my inner ankle and my bunions are growing it's very painful 😖, I'm DIY-ing my own padding but I'm still figuring out the best setup that won't be so bulky.
I totally recommend getting Bunga Pads Lace Bite sleeve! They help a ton :) and if you're having issues with ankle pain (or even if you're not specifically struggling with it) the Bunga Pads gel sleeves make wearing new boots very comfortable! Although I know some solutions to lace bite and ankle pain, my bunions are definitely still begging for help😭 if you find a padding that works for your bunions, please let me in on the secret! 🥰
My issue is that if i don't pull them super tight it feels too wiggly when skating and not stable enough on my foot. But my feet hurt like crazy within like 10 minutes when i tighten them so they don't feel wiggly...
The portion of the skate lacing that needs to be properly snug is at the flexion on your ankle, about where she did the anchoring half-knot, and the lowest/first hook. The higher hooks should be snug enough to hold the boot on, but they don't have to be tight and really should not be cranked tightly. You need to be able to flex your ankles when you bend your knees. The crossed lacing over the mid-foot and the toes does not have to be tight and should definitely not be so tight that it causes foot cramping or pain. There is an artery on the top of your foot that provides blood flow to your forefoot. Lacing over the mid-foot needs to hold the skate on your foot, without impeding the circulation. You should not be able to slide your foot around in the skate, even if the lacing is loose over your toes. If so, the skates are probably the wrong size length or width for your foot. Skates should generally be about a size smaller than street shoes. The boot should be like a glove or a sock over the foot, not loose and not pinchy-tight. Best thing is to have an experienced skate fitter find the right skates for you, if you can, and have them adjust the boots as needed (punch out for a bunion, for example). If you use orthotics in your street shoes, you should use similar orthotics in your skate boots. That definitely improves skating technique and comfort. HTH
@SNCNJCsMom the part around the ankle and about 1-2 eyelets on lower is probably where i tie them too much. It either hurts after a few minutes or it goes completely numb. Problem is when i did a class 10years ago the trainer tied the skates tight all the way so i couldn't really bend in the skate at all. It hurt too but i kinda got used to the "stability " and have problems balancing when the skates are a bit more loose. Other than that i think the fit of the boot is fine. I can wiggle my toes a bit bit other than that the boot is snug
man i hate how Edeas left my ankles super loose and collapsing on outside edges, it's like you have no good option, you either leave the top loose to have a nice knee bent and be on top of the ball of your foot but feel like you ankle are wobbly as hell or you tight it up enough to feel that your ankles are supported but them you have no knee action what so ever and feel like you're being pushed to you heels -_- that's why i switched to Risports
I decided at the ripe 'ol age of 64 to learn how to ice skate. I bought a pair of Jackson Ultima and after having the blades sharpened, I baked the skates at home myself. I just completed the basic level one class and I'm looking to continue to move up. I found your video to be of great help, especially with tying the laces up the hooks! Thanks a bunch.
I love that. I want to start too.😊
Please don’t put your skates in an oven! It’s meant for the ovens that are made by jackson themselves!
they're so pretty I want to cry
Wow you have answered all my questions in one video. Before that i watched thousands of them
Guys... this is amazing. I am not new to skating and this will elevate so many of my problems...thank you!
I'm an adult beginner starting ice skating in my 20s and I just purchased the Jackson Mystique with Mark II blades. Tried them on the ice today and having your own pair of skates does make a big difference (as long as they're cared for and maintained well). This video showed me how to properly lace my skates without applying too much pressure and avoidng the crushed toes feeling I normally experience during a skate session. First time I've had NO PAIN after my skate session (the insides of my skates are cushioned too). Thank you so much!
cool, thank you for this video! I’ll try this way of lacing my new Jackson’s once I get them
Great video! I would add one more step, for safety reasons, especially as skaters advance in skills. You pointed out that blades can catch on large loops of the final bow tie, but any loop big enough to admit the toe or the heel of the blade could cause a problem when skating involves close feet. To prevent any possibility of the blade catching a loop of the laces, wrap the loops around the hooks so that they are not accessible. This works better than trying to tuck the bunny ears into the boot, because those tucked loops always seem to work their way out of hiding. Alternatively, one could use boot covers to hide the laces (an additional expense) or wear skating pants that are long enough and wide enough to pull down over the laces.
My experience with skating (in Jacksons), if I have to retie my skates multiple times, and have to have to lace my laces back down the skate a few notches, that's a good indicator that my skates are breaking down. I'm one of those skaters that tends to break down my skates much more from the inside than the outside.
Just want to add to this- if you’re noticing you beed to retie your laces during your session, you shoukd change your laces. Especially with Edeas, and some Risports, the sides of the boot are meant to remain fixed, and all if the flex comes from the tongue and laces. So, if you’re having to tighten your laces, it means you are now going to try to “take them with you” meaning, take the sides of the boots with you when you bend, as you do with traditional leather skates. With Edea, laces should be changed every 4-6 weeks, and the sides of the boots should never crease. With most models of Jackson and Reidell, however, the boots aren’t broken in UNTIL they form a crease, although now days they often have a flex notch, allowing the skater to bend to some extent right away before the boots are broken in.
I did do that with my previous skates, and I was still having to retie them. I still ended up needing new skates, and I tend to break my skates down from the inside.
Just laced my Jackson soft skates. It is an awesome method thank you!!
I was thinking about getting edeas but after seeing how loose they are in the ankle, I don't think I'll do that. I have hyper mobility and the loose ankle will cause injury to me.
I have hyper mobile ankles too and edeas work great for me. They just look a bit more loose, but I definitely get enough support from them.
@@trashcant69 I did actually try some and they didn't work for me at all. The heel was way too loose and my ankle got injured. So I now have Jackson's and I'm doing much better. Every foot is different I guess.
Same exact situation here I went with Jackson debut
.... i also saw that and was like "not for me" (and i heard/read somewhere that they are 1 quite expensive even for beginner-level boots, and 2 break down faster than others.... so more expensive and not as durable....)
I got graf skates and am really happy with them.
Those boot levels are meant gor children. Adults, even beginners, need to start out with the mid to high level of support. For Edea, that means maybe Chorus if you’re less than 130lbs, otherwise go with Concerto or Ice Fly. For Risport, I suggest Royal Pro or Prime, for Jackson, nothing lower than Freestyle, and for Riedell, you’ll want at least Motion, or higher, but ge careful going too stiff with Reidell, as they will impede your progress and the break in can be very painful. It’s not teally possible to overboot in Edea or Risport, but there is certainly a risk to underboot for adults in each brand, if they rely on the size chart. They shouldnt even make most of those boots in anything higher than a size 4 or 240.
Thank you! This is soooo important to get right
Thank you so much for your the video! Tomorrow my daughter will have the first skating class, I will follow your instructions to keep her be safe! Your video is very helpful!
Thank you so much for the video! Can you please share your feelings while skating on Edeas being so loose! I lace my edeas crasily tight! How can you land a jump when your ankle wabbles around? I know about "Your ankle should be tight and what's above should be loose." But do they mean that loose? Thanks in advance of you answer!))))
Personally, I can't skate with loose skates. It'll cause my ankles to be Injured.
Yes, the same, i try to lace my Edeas up very tightly. Only then I feel comfortable. If not, I can twist my ankles..
If you are finding yourself needing to lace your Edeas crazy tightly, you need to change your laces much more often. When you tie them tight, you are going to cause the sides of the boots to flex with your ankle when you bend, instead of remaining stable like they’re meant to. And, unlike traditional leather boots that are meant to act like a stronger second skin and move with your ankle when you flex, Edea boots have plastic reinforcements inside between the outer leather, and interior memory foam and lining, which is meant to hold it’s form and if you continue to tie them tighter, you will eventually break that plastic and destroy your boots, like what happened to Evgenia Medvedeva, forcing her to withdraw from the European Championships.
I love it. I woukd go back and forth how to lace my jacsons. Tha k younfor giving me a definite best way to have confortable skating. At least the lacing, now I need to see the bottom.at my feet. It gets tired fast.
6:43, you did not tie a “square knot”. The knot you tied can come loose very easily. This is absolutely crucial and was taught to me by a skate technician many years ago. The knot should be tied backwards from how you have it, the opposite lace goes under. A square knot will never come loose.
Just got Jackson’s and this was so helpful thanks!
Very enlightening unfortunately I am finding this video after much foot pain and a fall or five, but thank you very much for the information.
I was searching a video like this since so lonng😭thank you so much🔥
Thanks so much for this!❤
Thank you for the video, just wondering can I use the way lacing EDEA to lace Jackson boots? I always find it is quite difficult to bend knees when lacing the boot too tight on the top.
You mean leaving enough space on top of the skates that allows you to bend?
NO. Edea are made just for that and still manage to give you support. The other brands also use that part to hold you in.
It could be that your shoe is too hard for you/your skill level.
If that is not the case... you could tie it slightly less tight (just slightly), it should still give you plenty support.
Another option is this: Its the way it was explained to me at the pro-shop i got them. Do everything as she said for the Jackson, but dont go over-under, but go under-over (like you would tie eg hiking boots)
That way it allows for a bit more movenent. I deliberately use it that way, and after wearing them for over a season, they are starting to get softer, so if i feel like they are too soft i can switch to the over-under.
The difference between the 2 ways is how firm it holds it... so it makes sense that if your skills are a bit lower in the beginning and the new shoe really firm, you can (and maybe should) allow for more movement in the laces. Later when you get better and the shoe gets softer, switch to the other one to keep your foot secure and stay safe and comfortable.
I am a new adult skater, and this video has been super helpful ⛸
Thank you so much, such a better fit!
Nice video! I like the boot comparisons.
Hello! My name is Pedro. I am loving your RUclips Chanel ! I am from Brazil and here we don’t have ice rinks 😞. I fell really sad because I never had the opportunity to practice figure skating. I complete love the pairs and the ice dance competition. Now I decided to buy the artistic inline frame by Roll Line Linea. I am really exited about it because I can simulate the ice skating using this frame at least. I already have 36 years old but I hope to learn at least double jumps.
But I am confused about the boots. I bought an Risport RF3 pro black size 290. But this boot looks very open at the top. Is this normal? I am confused if I bought the right size. I sent an video with the boots moving from left to
right. Is normal this type of moviment? Or the boot is not supporting my foot properly?
Sorry for so many questions. I hope to decide about boot size very soon and mount my new skate to practice your teachings . Thank you very much for your attention .
Pedro - hope you see this message !! - this is awesome! Inline skatinh is so much fun! But wheels are different ;) ... When our rink collapsed in the snow and never rebuilt, I had to skate. Somehow i had to skate.. i missed the smell of the ice ! But when Olympic Gold Dorothy Hamill was living close to me in Palm Springs California (that is the desert - no water) she began roller blading. I thought I could too. I bought a German brand skate (precision and they were fast & SMOOTH). Took them to the beach...Venice Beach California. Look it it up. Fun place! I loved skating at the beach. I learned very quickly. It will be good skating where you are. You will love it because your ❤ is there.. I began inline skating at age 45. Do it! Never give up! Wear your gear at first. Get your quads nice and strong then skate ⛸ 🏖. Follow your heart. And have fun!
From your friend! an American girl. We are loving people here in the States...not like news. 💕 Hope by now you are a champion! 🥇 :)
An American girl
@@missygee531 I live in Idaho, but I grew up in Venice, California and used to roller skate there.
@@lisabaltzer4190awwwhhhh Venice Beach! My daughter used to live there. You're so lucky you got out of Calif. Ive thought so much about moving to Boise or Couer d'laine... Visited friends in Boise (Nampa) a few years ago and didn't want to come home it was so lovely. You probably are happier now that you've moved out of state?? Calif is a dump and Los Angeles was ruined by Gascon. So sad bc it was one a great place to live, as you well know. One of my other gf (from Venice Beach!) left last year for Florida and loves it down there. I wanna be happy where I live and Southern Calif now has 6 months of Summer which I'm not a fan of.. Not to mention the traffic!!! LOL . Do wish you the best tho ! Enjoy your new home! 🌹 blessings!
@@missygee531 Thank you for your kind words. I graduated from Venice High School. I moved to Coeur D’Alene in 2004. My husband and I took a vacation here in 2003 and decided that we had enough of Los Angeles and sold our business and house and moved up here. We have never regretted it for one day. I am happy that my husband spent his last years here in this beautiful place. Unfortunately, house prices have gone into the ozone layer in the last 3 years and prices have actually doubled in most neighborhoods making it hard for a first time home owner to even consider buying here. There are almost no houses under $500k, even if they are a falling down dump.
Thank you for this great video👌🏻❤️
Thanks!!! Realy good video!
Thank you ❤
Thanks it helped so much! 🐥🐥🐥
Thank you so so much, my ice skates ⛸ just arrived today and I was wearing them for the first time ever and lacing them for the first time whilst watching this, it was very useful, and less complicated than the other video I watched where it said to put your skates in the oven!
Should you tie it so that at the tongue at the top it is not very tight but instead room where you can fit your finger in it? Would that help being able to bend your knees? I always thought the top shouldn’t be very tight, is that correct?
Thanks! Is it true that if you live Edeas too tight they will break quicker? I’m not comfortable having them “loose” since I just switched from Jackson’s for 10 years and used to be extremely tight
Yes, there is plastic reinforcements in Edeas that are meant to stay rigid in place and not move with your ankle when you bend, like traditional leather skates. If you tie your Edeas too tight, you will force the sides of the boot to move with your ankle when you bend, causing that plastic to deform or break. If you feel you need more support in your Edeas, you need to change your laces more often. When I wore Ice Fly, I had to change laces every 6 weeks or so. I could tell it was time because I would feel the need to retie them during my sessions. Ultimately, though, Edeas are not for me, as I have very skinny, weak ankles and miss the feeling of the traditional leather boots tied snugly around my ankles and supporting me as I flex. Edeas are great for a lot of skaters but you must have perfect alignment when taking off and landing jumps, making sure to always keep your hips, knees, ankles and toes aligned so you flex straight forward, with the heal locked in, without relying on the sides of the boot
Very good & helpful video… but the whole time I just wanted her to put on her guards
Very good, thank you!😊
for edea, the way to tie is OUT-IN, if you don't know this very bad professional. Only need to read the card that is provided with the boots or in Edea Web Side...
YES! I can’t believe they don’t know this!
How long are figure skates supposed to last. I've had my Jackson's for almost four years now and lately I've had to double rap my laces around the prongs so they don't get lose. When should I get new skates?
How long they last depends on what skills you're doing and how often you skate. Four years is a long time. Your coach should tell you when it is time to buy new ones, but having to constantly fix your laces is one sign. You may also notice less ankle support. Sounds like you are long over due for new skates.
@@ACL7211 I’m only still on the basic levels. I’m on basic 6. But I’m competing in basic 4 in September. Could I wait to buy new skates after my competition?
get new skates like right now
@@maxb4403 I got new skates for Christmas but unfortunately they don’t really fit. They’re OBX Classics. They’re a little too big. My ankles are still getting lose and my toes don’t go all the way up to the top of the boots. I feel fine in them but obviously they don’t support me very well. Our skating director told me she’s getting some old Jackson Mystiques from her other students that she’d be giving to me. But is that a good idea to have a pair of old skates as my new pair?
@@kkstar1297 generally it is ok to have an old pair as a first, but new is always better and the key thing is that they fit well and support ur ankles. Also make sure they arent too old and wore away cos they might rub.
I am a very new person to ice skating , and I have Graf 500 ice skates and I don’t know of I’ve laced them properly. Whenever I tend to lean my shin forwards the top makes a creaking noise? I haven’t seen any tutorials on them and I’ve tried to tie them like the Jackson’s. 😅😅 great video though
Hi!! I just got new boots and the middle section of my foot (your second section after the toe box) cramps horribly when I skate to where I can only skate 15 minutes. I tie that middle section super tight...is that my error? Because when my feet are in the boot but not tied, I don't have that pain. Can you please advise me?
Hi Sounds like you could be over tightening, and squashing the tendons across the top of your foot.
Try lacing from outside to inside ( lace goes through the lace holes from the outside of the lace holes to the inside. ) this will allow you to tighten firmly and hold without over tightening.
Also it depends on the fitting in the boots you have, if the length and width are correct.
Try re lacing and not over tightening first. ⛸
@@clareupton2025 thanks for this and Light for the question. I am a new skater and I'm having similar issues - a lot of pain in my feet. I think it's very likely that I am also overtightening my laces :)
Could you show how to lace up Graf skates
is it normal that tongue in jackson's skates kinda break?? crack?? it isn't stiff at all, is it because of bad lacing up?
I personally have never had a problem with It and I have had 3 pairs of Jackson skates. I’m not sure what the problem is, but I would definitely recommend looking into it.
What can i do if the tingue of my boot is not as "deep" inside the boot/against the leg? I think my leg is a bit wider so the tongue barley touches against the sides of the boot. Is that bad?
I am interested in information indicating whether Risport Electra Light might be suitable for relatively wide feet with circumference of 23-24 cm .
Idk about risport, but other brands (Graf and i think jackson as well) have different shoes for foot width, so maybe getting the wide one would be an option. Or if its just a tiiiiny bit too tight you can have them stretched out in the front/widened at the skates shop.
Risport Electra Light are for children. Adults can’t rely on the support ratings, and should go for the higher mid-range to top of the line models, in every brand. You would want to look at Risport Royal Pro.
I have tiny feet. I was looking on eBay to see if I could get a pair of decent ice skates for a good price. Up pops a pair of brand new, never had blades mounted, pair of Klingbeil SA 3 boots for a starting bid of $66.00. Nobody but me bid on them and I got them for $66.49. I suppose some child outgrew them before they got the boot order filled and they sat in the closet for a few years, because those boots are no longer made. Not many skaters today would even know about that brand, so that is probably why I was the only bidder.
Wow you got a great deal! Klingbeils were custom made for the skater though, so a lot of people won’t want to take the risk and if SA 3 means size 3 A, that’s a tiny, narrow foot. You will probably always be able to find amazing deals on skates if that is your size!
@@lisazitzmann920 SA3 means it is the top model. It is a stiffness rating. I wear a 4 A . The boots were a perfect fit. I also got a great deal recently on a pair of Avanta boots that I will use for my inline roller skates. Avanta is a Klingbeil clone. I get good skate deals, but if I want a pair of heels to wear with a dress, I am SOL , unless I special order them online. People where I live are Sasquatches 😆. I did however get a screaming deal on a pair of Sponge Bob shoes here in town 😁. P.S. Seemingly, I wear the size that kids wear when they give up skating to do something else. I have seen many good deals on eBay in my size.
Yep 4A, lucky you! I’m a size 9 shoe, narrow but now I’m older, I need split width. I’m wearing a pair of Risport Royal Primes newest model, I got almost new off eBay for 60! They had been temp mounted and worn once. I love them for coaching but I’m getting custom Avantas for my own skating. It’s $2000 now 😬
thinking of buying the 2nd cheapest in line of Rondo's. but i roller skate? can i sue my old Snyder plates for this type of boot or do i need that brand to use? i' m on a budget, i don't compete anymore i retired 26 years ago i only skate for the exercise but i 'm picky and like the feel of a figure boot. i 've been skating over 40 years? but need new boots, i don't like cheap plates of my newer skates
Thanksss❤️❤️❤️
Hi, I saw you wear a size 5 in Jacksons. Could you plese tell me the corresponding size in EDEA and Risport? Is it a 240 or 245? Thanks!
Hi, in this video I had a Jackson 5, Edea 235 and Electra 240 but it was just a quick demonstration. I would not use this as a size guide x
My Jackson Classique 5B took some heat molding to fit my feet right (initially it was too tight.) I have a pair of Jackson Artiste 5.5 B, which feels a bit too long for my feet (230mm long.) In Edea Chorus and Ice Fly I take size 240C. I also have a pair of Risport RF3 Pro 235C, which is just a bit too short. They press my big toe, so next time I get a pair of Risport I'll get a size 240C. This information may or may not help you. In my experience sometimes it may feel all right off ice, but once I use them on ice I get pressure points or even pain when I do certain moves. Good luck finding your best fit skates.
Thanks, my foot is almost exactly the same size and this is useful information
@@chiutwan hi! my feet are the same length as yours. can I know your feet width? i wanted to get risprot electra in size 240 too but I'm concerned about my feet width
@@yenirohmalinda My feet are wide in the ball part, but quite thin overall. I'm not sure which part to measure for the "width" information you're seeking. I go with the C width for Risport skates and find them comfortable. I hope this helps.
Which skates better Jackson Elle or Edea overture I’m confused !
elles
I have risport Electra and every time I land a jump my ankle bends to the side making me fall out of it and I tied it just like how you did idk what’s wrong with it
Are you an adult? Or teenager? I wouldn’t put anyone older than 10-11 with size 225 or smaller in Electra. They don’t have enough support in the bigger sizes for bigger, stronger skaters. You are going to badly injure your ankles and never be able to jump again if you don’t upgrade
do you think disport tongue is a lot stiffer than the other two?
from personal experience, there doesn’t seem to be any significant experience between the stiffness of edea, jackson, and risport tongues. however, i really love risport tongues since they’re thicker with more padding so that deep knee bends are a lot more comfortable.
Yes, The Risports tougue on the Electra VS Overture and Artiste is stiffer x
Здравствуйте, подскажите пожалуйста, нам на примере edea показали как правильно они выглядят на ноге? Или на оборот что они слишком слобо затянуты? Обьесните мне пожалуйста этот момент с edea, просто мне не очень понятно
Edea and Risport should be laced from the outside, in. I can’t believe you’re putting out this entire video with the boots laced incorrectly. I’m glad i watched the entire thing before continuing to recommend this video to parents. What a shame, because it would be a great resource, otherwise. Is there a reason you don’t follow Edea’s recommendations for lacing, or was this just an oversight?
Ive been ice skating and in lessons for a few years but never really researched about it and light bulbs are going off in my head watching this realising how many things ive been doing wrong😭
My skates are utterly fit but when I lace them tighter my feet get hurt what should I do?
About how long does it take to receive the Risport skates? I just ordered mine today :) nice video too!
Why didn't you ask that question when you ordered them?
@@scifigrl23 i ordered them in person, she told me 7-10 days but i feel like they are gonna take longer than that seeing that i have competition in a few weeks. i just didn’t know so i went around asking other people on their videos.
The Edea Overture is laced incorrectly. Please refer to Edea's manual for how to insert the laces and how to lace the skates.
The tongue of the boot bites right at my inner ankle and my bunions are growing it's very painful 😖, I'm DIY-ing my own padding but I'm still figuring out the best setup that won't be so bulky.
I totally recommend getting Bunga Pads Lace Bite sleeve! They help a ton :) and if you're having issues with ankle pain (or even if you're not specifically struggling with it) the Bunga Pads gel sleeves make wearing new boots very comfortable!
Although I know some solutions to lace bite and ankle pain, my bunions are definitely still begging for help😭 if you find a padding that works for your bunions, please let me in on the secret! 🥰
My issue is that if i don't pull them super tight it feels too wiggly when skating and not stable enough on my foot. But my feet hurt like crazy within like 10 minutes when i tighten them so they don't feel wiggly...
The portion of the skate lacing that needs to be properly snug is at the flexion on your ankle, about where she did the anchoring half-knot, and the lowest/first hook. The higher hooks should be snug enough to hold the boot on, but they don't have to be tight and really should not be cranked tightly. You need to be able to flex your ankles when you bend your knees.
The crossed lacing over the mid-foot and the toes does not have to be tight and should definitely not be so tight that it causes foot cramping or pain. There is an artery on the top of your foot that provides blood flow to your forefoot. Lacing over the mid-foot needs to hold the skate on your foot, without impeding the circulation.
You should not be able to slide your foot around in the skate, even if the lacing is loose over your toes. If so, the skates are probably the wrong size length or width for your foot. Skates should generally be about a size smaller than street shoes. The boot should be like a glove or a sock over the foot, not loose and not pinchy-tight. Best thing is to have an experienced skate fitter find the right skates for you, if you can, and have them adjust the boots as needed (punch out for a bunion, for example).
If you use orthotics in your street shoes, you should use similar orthotics in your skate boots. That definitely improves skating technique and comfort.
HTH
@SNCNJCsMom the part around the ankle and about 1-2 eyelets on lower is probably where i tie them too much. It either hurts after a few minutes or it goes completely numb. Problem is when i did a class 10years ago the trainer tied the skates tight all the way so i couldn't really bend in the skate at all. It hurt too but i kinda got used to the "stability " and have problems balancing when the skates are a bit more loose. Other than that i think the fit of the boot is fine. I can wiggle my toes a bit bit other than that the boot is snug
I want to go back to britten
what do i do if i have no lace left to tie a bow?…
I would recommend trying to buy new skate laces that are longer and relacing your skates. Its a little bit of a pain to do, but it is worth it.
man i hate how Edeas left my ankles super loose and collapsing on outside edges, it's like you have no good option, you either leave the top loose to have a nice knee bent and be on top of the ball of your foot but feel like you ankle are wobbly as hell or you tight it up enough to feel that your ankles are supported but them you have no knee action what so ever and feel like you're being pushed to you heels -_- that's why i switched to Risports
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I think I made a mistake buying Edea skates 😅
No guards 🤔