thanks very much to explain your strategie to beat leviathan and tie dagger , with the tie dagger i lost lot of cristals since more 3WEEKS, you're great!!
I really like the video. good job. Just one thing that could be improved (for me) is when i would see the buttons you click. Helps me understand the counter better.
I've been running this counter for a long time both in Arena and GAC. In GAC I swap out MK6 for Biggs and it seems to work just as well to deal with Leviathans. I've only lost twice, and it frees up my other key fleets for dealing with other tough battles. I have noticed that post-Dagger buff they seem to favor stunning Falcon over Outrider, but that may just be my local RNG playing. Do you notice one being favored over the other? Also, I run Tie Bomber as my final ship instead of Cass' U-wing because then in Arena if I came across the random Prof I could easily deal with them without swapping my roster. Do you find Cass to be a better RI after Phantom? I would always RI with Phantom then Ghost because the mass dispell and AOE seemed to help in those rare cases where I was running low on ships going into the ult. Some situations they managed to destroy Y-wing before ult and then bring out MK6 to one shot either Falcon or Outrider so the AOE seemed to do a better job clearing off the enemies and work out a win.
Yes, after the P1 and Dorito changes, I feel like there's something odd, now Levi calls MK6 and nuke Falcon. This never ever happened to me so counter isn't as good as it was before, there's more RNG now. Weird.
Using wiggle with falcon is nice as long as outrider stun gets cleared, but there is a chance he stays stunned with two debuffs and skips a turn which is auto loss, while stunned falcon is less impactful
I originally was planning to take my profundity to 7 stars the slow and crystal free way. Thanks to this video I'm taking Profundity straight to 7 stars and not looking back!
@@Bitdynasty I tried it yesterday and again today. What can I say? Won 6 out of 6. Seems like your threat to look into this intimidated RNGsus. 😅 Thanks for the support, Bit
A little late here, but have used this a lot in arena testing and in GAC. It’s a coin flip counter just like the mirror. If you don’t get enough crits, you lose. And there’s just so many ways to not crit. Including dodges. :/
This doesn't seem to work anymore, Levi is not calling reinforcement on 2nd turn, it's using the other special, and my Prof first turn doesn't have call reinforcement available. Then they mass kill Outrider and it's over. Are you still using this reliably, or is it possilbe they made a change to AI defense?
Hiding falcon before levi reinforces is better because outrider cleanses itself from the stun. I’ve been climbing against levis with profundity for months now
this has an RNG aspect depending on the correct number of Assist to get ultimate first - there is a failure rate against high relic fleets ( pilots R7 and R8 ) - i see about a 65% win rate
I've been climbing in fleet arena with this comp for a couple of days now and it works great. GAC is going to be another story though. Neutering my Lev fleet to beat a Lev fleet seems counter productive.
@ yes my Leviathan was beaten in GAC by someone who doesn’t have Leviathan themselves and used this counter (based on their GAC history from last week), so I was wondering if there’s a way to protect against it
well depends what you do with Leviathan. for example if you use this Profundity vs Leviathan, you can use your Leviathan without MK6 to easily counter everything else :)
I failed with this counter multiple times against one of the fleets in my shard. Maybe its high relic marauder or just bad rng. Hardly any crits and they always get to ultimate or kill my fleet. Worked against most other opponents.
I must have one of the most unlucky prof. fleet. All I get is doge non assist and if then no crits feels like a 50/50 counter. Sometimes even get isolate on falcon
Meh. I think falcon needs to wiggle or else it will be dazed, vulnerable to enemy attacks, and can lose assist chances and die before coming back -- meaning profundity will miss the ult race. Getting in one dazed basic doesn't feel worth it and enemy RIs can bring in a lot of stuns and pain and foresight...
Won like 70% of my battles usually. The past 8 in a row have been fails. Something must have been chanhed in the recent patch cause 8 in a row is just ridiculous odds.
Honestly, this only works maybe 50% of the time for me, and I used to run Home One to get #1 in my shard back in the day! So my Profundity fleet *should* be top-notch! No idea what's going on - are they *too* fast maybe? So they keep taking turns and losing their tenacity up? PS. 0/4 so far today 🤯
@@dimanemchenko1047 ah I see now, at 01:39 you used the 'stealth' ability with Profundity, that is wrong. you had daze on Falcon, so should use the 'cleanse call to assist' ability with Profundity to cleanse daze from Falcon
@Bitdynasty yes, could be. I'm trying to hide my falcon and outrider from the enemy Mk6 that's about to come out, but maybe it's better to just race to the ult.
Hey man, "We have examined the match-ups of Profundity fleets vs. Leviathan fleets in Fleet Arena... not working as intended..... we will be.....". Bruh
Ugh, have to neuter your Levi fleet, and spend a full meta fleet to take this fleet out? Expensive. I guess you can still put the gimpy Leviathan on defense.
Just tried it...worked like a charm...thanks! Those mirror matches were killing me
nice!
Works a treat, thank you. I've been struggling, hit and miss for a while. This technique now works well.
Glad it helped
thanks very much to explain your strategie to beat leviathan and tie dagger , with the tie dagger i lost lot of cristals since more 3WEEKS, you're great!!
Glad I could help
I love the reactions to dodge while you’re filming these. It’s like looking in a mirror whenever I’m climbing fleets. “Oh, they dodged… again….”
yeah the dodges do happen unfortunately...
You are the people’s champion, BD! Thank you!!
welcome!
I really like the video. good job. Just one thing that could be improved (for me) is when i would see the buttons you click. Helps me understand the counter better.
sure thing!
Thank you so much for making this. I don't have leviathan and couldn't climb at all. This has already saved at like 600 crystals tysm
Nice work!
Thanks
Wow, thanks so much 🙏
I've been running this counter for a long time both in Arena and GAC. In GAC I swap out MK6 for Biggs and it seems to work just as well to deal with Leviathans. I've only lost twice, and it frees up my other key fleets for dealing with other tough battles.
I have noticed that post-Dagger buff they seem to favor stunning Falcon over Outrider, but that may just be my local RNG playing. Do you notice one being favored over the other?
Also, I run Tie Bomber as my final ship instead of Cass' U-wing because then in Arena if I came across the random Prof I could easily deal with them without swapping my roster. Do you find Cass to be a better RI after Phantom? I would always RI with Phantom then Ghost because the mass dispell and AOE seemed to help in those rare cases where I was running low on ships going into the ult. Some situations they managed to destroy Y-wing before ult and then bring out MK6 to one shot either Falcon or Outrider so the AOE seemed to do a better job clearing off the enemies and work out a win.
For me personally usually they stun Outrider, but just when I was recording they kept going after Falcon...
Yes, after the P1 and Dorito changes, I feel like there's something odd, now Levi calls MK6 and nuke Falcon. This never ever happened to me so counter isn't as good as it was before, there's more RNG now. Weird.
Thank you - you are simply the best.
Thanks!
great videos... shows options on what to do....much easier than mirror matches
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for this video. I found if the opponent only have Scimitar as reinforcement, Leviathan would get to ult before Profundity.
try bringing Scimitar as 1st reinforcement :)
Thank you! After losing the coin flip 8 times in a row I was at my wits end
Welcome!
Using wiggle with falcon is nice as long as outrider stun gets cleared, but there is a chance he stays stunned with two debuffs and skips a turn which is auto loss, while stunned falcon is less impactful
Interesting 🤔
@@Bitdynasty i've tried five times and my falcon never cleanses the daze on outrider. i've lost every time.
Wow... this just helped me win my GAC. I am still working towards Leviathan and my 5* Mark VI was more than enough to easily win.
congrats!
Any other ships bring tenacity up? In GAC I can’t use this.. so what do you do? Any suggestions?
I use it in GAC all the time, it is the only ship that give Tenacity Up to ALL allies, Star fortress ONLY gives it to Resistance allies
why not bring in the Ebon Hawk instead of MK6 Bomber? doesn't Chaff keep debuffs off whole squad for 3 turns? plus it's more of a LS ship than MK6.
Ebon Hawk only stops target locks, while Mk6 applies Tenacity Up which stops all debuffs.
I originally was planning to take my profundity to 7 stars the slow and crystal free way.
Thanks to this video I'm taking Profundity straight to 7 stars and not looking back!
Yeah if you need a reliable Levi counter, 7 star Profundity seems to be the most consistent for now
Did they change something? Since a week or so I won't get to my ultimate in time. My win rate dropped to around 30 %.
still works well for me every day, if you share a video of your loss I can investigate :)
@@Bitdynasty I tried it yesterday and again today. What can I say? Won 6 out of 6. Seems like your threat to look into this intimidated RNGsus. 😅 Thanks for the support, Bit
Does it work against any Levi composition? Like for example Levi with sith assassin instead of dagger or mk6 instead of bomber at the start
Should do yes I think 🤔
Yes, it works fine against the sith fighter fleets. I've not lost against either levi line up.
Followed exactly, got completely slaughtered.
You have to pay attention to foresight and crit damage immunity
A little late here, but have used this a lot in arena testing and in GAC. It’s a coin flip counter just like the mirror. If you don’t get enough crits, you lose. And there’s just so many ways to not crit. Including dodges. :/
not a coin flip for me, about 90% win rate
Will it work with 6 star Profundity.... Didn't have time to get it to 7 stars last go around
someone in the comments mentioned they did make it work with 6* but not sure how reliable it is...
@@backdoc2529 yeah 6* works. Instead of using basic at the beginning, use the 2nd special to put outrider under stealth
This doesn't seem to work anymore, Levi is not calling reinforcement on 2nd turn, it's using the other special, and my Prof first turn doesn't have call reinforcement available. Then they mass kill Outrider and it's over. Are you still using this reliably, or is it possilbe they made a change to AI defense?
yes, either way it works, not matter whether they reinforce on disable yours
Hiding falcon before levi reinforces is better because outrider cleanses itself from the stun. I’ve been climbing against levis with profundity for months now
cool, seems like it... yeah nothing new I showed this like 3 months ago already... just a reminder that buffed Dagger doesn't stop it from working :)
is this possible with lower star profundities?
Most likely not, need that basic ability maxed out
Thank you again
Always welcome
this has an RNG aspect depending on the correct number of Assist to get ultimate first - there is a failure rate against high relic fleets ( pilots R7 and R8 ) - i see about a 65% win rate
personally I lost only 1 time in about 30 attempts, so been near perfect for me
I've been climbing in fleet arena with this comp for a couple of days now and it works great. GAC is going to be another story though. Neutering my Lev fleet to beat a Lev fleet seems counter productive.
yeah I have been climbing with this for a week now, yet to lose... but yeah GAC is another matter :)
Did you get the link?
Which link? Didn't see anything?
Dang it, now I might need to actually push for a 7* profundity. Just unlocked it more to slow farm now than rush it later
it would be nice to have for sure!
Is there any way to defend against this?
defend against?
@ yes my Leviathan was beaten in GAC by someone who doesn’t have Leviathan themselves and used this counter (based on their GAC history from last week), so I was wondering if there’s a way to protect against it
@@alaunushawk4727 not sure to be honest, Profundity beats all Levi lineups the same from my experience
@ 😭 thank you though!
Win every time? Followed exactly in grand arena, lost, they got ult first
yes I lost only 1 time in about 50 battles now. did you look out for foresight and crit damage immunity?
Sounds good but in grand arena we can't use this because it Will break up the leviathan line up
well depends what you do with Leviathan. for example if you use this Profundity vs Leviathan, you can use your Leviathan without MK6 to easily counter everything else :)
@Bitdynasty oh ok thanks
I get 1-2/5 wins with this. Nerfed?
Still working for me, just did it in GAC no problem
I'm finding this counter much more consistant than the Levi+Mk6 mirror, I think I'll use this to climb then switch out.
Yep what I have been doing for the past 10 days
I failed with this counter multiple times against one of the fleets in my shard. Maybe its high relic marauder or just bad rng. Hardly any crits and they always get to ultimate or kill my fleet. Worked against most other opponents.
I guess it can fail occasionally but for the most part pretty consistent
I must have one of the most unlucky prof. fleet. All I get is doge non assist and if then no crits feels like a 50/50 counter. Sometimes even get isolate on falcon
isolate on Falcon should not happen, need to use Ywing special on it's first turn to get taunt up
nice, thx
Welcome
6 star profundity does work, but obviously 7 makes it much easier
really? cool!
I love that popping amount of counters to the new CG's unnecessary Levi buff, CG will never prevail! 😃
Fingers crossed!
Doesn’t work. I try exactly the same thing for 10 times 🤷🏻♂️
Then must be doing something wrong. Is your Profundity 7 stars?
Meh. I think falcon needs to wiggle or else it will be dazed, vulnerable to enemy attacks, and can lose assist chances and die before coming back -- meaning profundity will miss the ult race.
Getting in one dazed basic doesn't feel worth it and enemy RIs can bring in a lot of stuns and pain and foresight...
Sure 😁
Won like 70% of my battles usually. The past 8 in a row have been fails. Something must have been chanhed in the recent patch cause 8 in a row is just ridiculous odds.
What reinforcement do they bring
Honestly, this only works maybe 50% of the time for me, and I used to run Home One to get #1 in my shard back in the day! So my Profundity fleet *should* be top-notch! No idea what's going on - are they *too* fast maybe? So they keep taking turns and losing their tenacity up? PS. 0/4 so far today 🤯
I would like to see a video as I find it hard to believe you can lose 4 straight...
0/7 today 🤯 I'll see about making a recording...
@@Bitdynasty , this is fairly typically how they play out :( Let me know if you see where I am messing up!..
ruclips.net/video/BB_8lO-2LUk/видео.html
@@dimanemchenko1047 ah I see now, at 01:39 you used the 'stealth' ability with Profundity, that is wrong. you had daze on Falcon, so should use the 'cleanse call to assist' ability with Profundity to cleanse daze from Falcon
@Bitdynasty yes, could be. I'm trying to hide my falcon and outrider from the enemy Mk6 that's about to come out, but maybe it's better to just race to the ult.
I hate the game right now. I was trying this counter but milf never assists! I end at 94-98% in profundity and leviathan takes control of it next turn
yeah it can happen that Falcon refuses to assists sometimes... :(
Ditto. This worked perfectly the first two times I tried it. Last three in GAC, it failed. They manage to RI Mk VI before I hit ult then it’s a swipe.
I played 4 battles, won 2 and lost 2
Normal? I followed all the steps, I swear :(
I would say not normal, at least for me personally I lost only 1 battle out of 30 so far
Things I don't have a 7 star prof
yeah that is a requirement for consistent wins unfortunately
Ugh this sucks. My outrider just got blown up before first rei. 2 straight losses
that is very strange...
@Bitdynasty user error
Don't post this they will nerf it
oops. too late!
Hey man, "We have examined the match-ups of Profundity fleets vs. Leviathan fleets in Fleet Arena... not working as intended..... we will be.....". Bruh
Oh is that official from CG?
@Bitdynasty no but thats probably totally not cg next announcement. I pray to the lord dude. They are going to f us up no matter what mate
I still got wrecked, I can’t wait for this meta to change, made it miserable
Profundity works reasonably well, half of my shard is using it to climb every day!
Ugh, have to neuter your Levi fleet, and spend a full meta fleet to take this fleet out? Expensive. I guess you can still put the gimpy Leviathan on defense.
or bring Levi on offense also?
Well its up to you. Nothing is pleasing the players anyway
Are you gonna give the original creator credit?
I showed this counter like 3 months ago - ruclips.net/video/hfYsyaxcKe8/видео.html&si=Zch9MZqmDEJTLbuq ... so no need to give myself credit I guess :)
Already uninstalled the game 😂
That was quick 😁
What is up with this new meta. Absolute crap. The quicker they revert back the better.
Yeah I wouldn't count on them reverting anything 😅