Justinny it works, i mean fortnite did the same. They said that the bushes were OP, but then they added wearable bushes and now everyone notice bushes. The same thing is gonna be with lion
Ubisoft: How do we get rid of hackers? Employee: Lets add an operator who can see the enemies perfect outline through walls. Ubisoft: Amazing idea, Worker #225152.
The Cosa nostra creed sure just let me stand completely still in a game all about staying mobile because you could be killed in less than a second. I'm sure that'll work is bullets start flying at you if you get spotted, you might get killed, but at least the drone didn't spot you.
Sniff but bro it last for a few seconds just be behind some cover and you will be alright plus it’s a countdown just get behind something you can stand aim down sight and lean and shoot just don’t move your feet it’s not op or anything
I love how when they are talking about Finka they give side effects "such as elevated heart rate" 1:24, then in the end the narrator says "Ask your teammates if Finka is right for you." Playing on medication commercials. 1:52
That would mean one of his jammers is dedicated to an un-barricaded window. As soon s spawn-peeking stops being a viable option, you've got a jammer that's totally pointless, and can't be moved without risk of death.
Emiliano Jurado Every operator looks op but than is a throw away pick one the update comes, Cav, Jackal, Dokk I remember everyone crying about how op they were but they're barely used.
When they showed vigil they said op. Yet he's literally one of the worst defenders. They said zophia would make ash useless. They were wrong. Smart players no its not op because of the counters
Ethan Hill actually no he isn't, as a cav main all I need to do is pulse activate my ability to counter Jackel's scans. Therefore it being easy for me to bait you into a tight room and engage you.
people crying that it is like wallhacks .. srsly they even told you how to counter it. All that is happening is that spawnpeeking gets less annoying and mute is gonna be played more while roamers have to take a slower approach instead of running around like a hamster on crack
Arty Theta the moment youre on the same floor against a player with good aim, youve been 2 shot down by a caveira. Being inside the building in basically all siege maps is “appreciable” range
Tanguay Not really, hallways are a thing. Take bank as an example, cav is effective in the basement but in most other places she needs to use her primary or sneak up closer. Her luison isnt the incredibly strong gun you are making it up to be. Rogue9 researched the gun's damage dropoff (it's bad)
Lion + Twitch. Imagine twitch chasing you around while Lion has his ability activated. Guaranteed the defender will move. Good thing she only has 10 zaps now.
These operators abilities sound questionable. I'll have to wait and see what it's like to actually play with them, but this video makes them seem incredibly overpowered.
Heisenberg well i mean, only lyion seems op this other girl with weird name is actually ok she us the medic for the attaker team that should have been brom the beginning.
Agent Diego yus if they has babies they can get more health and benefits and there penises will be lmg's and there ears will hold glass shields to make them invincible
People already ignore rook armor, and forget about OBJ countdown timers, what makes you think they'd notice a little blip in the center of their screen?
whaddup_goose patch two for Lion: Lion will now be 3 armor but will have access to HAMR and will be able to levitate for 5 seconds and will have 1 drone that scans for 2 min
not happen the idea of leon drone is it not worth to destroy it (only an idiot who try to get outside and try to shoot the drone that fly somewhere on the sky) and his ability can be counter by camper only. if you look carefully his ability is a phone hack + heartbeat scan except it tracking only moving people.
The problem is that Lion's drone scans even in areas without any outside electronics, meaning that Vigil's Diminished Reality device won't work on it as it relies on electronics VISUALLY seeing him within the device's AOE, which Lion's drone is consistently out of.
Wait, adrenal surge drastically lowers the effect of grzmot mines and concussion grenades, but zofia already has a natural resistance to it, so zofia on adrenal surge is just immune to concussions?
HurlyBurly Gaming dude you have no idea i just bought a half oz of some girl scout cookie and you have no idea how much how blown my mind is ( I'm not saying weed is a drug )
I think the point of lion is to reduce spawn peeking and roamers potency. If you have a character that completely counters that then lion becomes so much worse. Also I main vigil on defence
How exactly would he be immune? His device hacks camera feeds, but Lion's drone uses motion detectors, which have nothing to do with cameras. Besides, the drone is flying so far up that his device would not even work, since it has an effective radius of 12 meters.
You know what he meant, using Cav the right way requires a little skill. Downing an opponent and making sure someone isn't simply going to shoot you the second you start the interrogation that leaves you completely exposed is completely different from Lion's ability that leaves you essentially fucked as a roamer to no cost of the user, how about either Lion becomes a 3 armor character or his ability gets nerfed?
lion is kinda like having a caveria on the attacking team except there is no latina woman speaking gibberish before she stabs you in the neck and instead a russian man with a lvl 3 backpack that forces you not to move
How come Finka dies more quickly when using adrenal surge in Smoke's smoke when she's wearing a gas mask? The gas mask should clearly be able to filter the smoke for her faster rate of breathing
Elas gonna be worthless in the next patch... way more recoil, reduced damage, and no more impact grenades. That in combination with the introduction of finka, makes her useless now. basically jager with a shittier gun.
Elijah Cedeno I'm actually thinking they're gonna release 2 defenders at a later date of the outbreak, since it's such a big event and there could be something like "they've advanced, we need to make a defensive retreat" and bring in two more specialists
Yeah, but the wall hack is kinda OP...it would have made more sense if the scan detected sound. And rather than a clear silhouette it's more distorted based on the amount of sound emitted. That way caveira can still avoid it, mute can block it, and it can be used tactically, so anyone roaming (bandit, ela, jager) can't move or at least not much.
I love how Finka's weaknesses actually make sense. Increased heartbeat and breathing would get you killed faster by Pulse and Smoke irl, so I like the attention to detail.
22king _gd22 then that means he can't be tracked at all and still move. The whole point of the ability is to distract the defending ops and prepare for a rush. For example, making then not want to move so then your team can drone them out or rush. And also it's useful because then it temporarily stops roamers from moving preventing flanks and if you're standing in a mute jammer radius you can still move as long as you're in the radius AND you can communicate with your team and prepare to ambush the enemy while not moving. Try all the solutions and counter attacks they clearly and briefly presented to you before you start whining for a nerf.
22king _gd22 Meh operator seems situational the operator gives more reason to be an anqour instead of roaming finka Looks useless honestly both combined is 40 health per teammate plus the gun selection doesn’t look like any pluses so r4 And f2 Still for the win.
chilicockoff I'm pretty sure that lions drone detracts people by heat signatures. And vigil can only become invisible to cameras but not heat signatures
we already got a hacker lady, and she looks like she thinks she's superior to everyone else, which she isn't, because Tachanka exists, with his mate Kapkan to funnel the attackers down to his lmg that is both mounted and loaded.
Actually i can stay with the ping but they should reverse the duration bc now it feel really lackluster and sound like a baby lion before it strikes fear and it’s like an earthquake.
sort of trick for lion i just thought up: save at least one drone scan during bomb and secure area, because if you're securing you can use it to see where the enemies are coming from, and if they stop it'll drain more time
Jackal will work really well with Lion. If you're on someone's trail with Jackal and Lion uses his ability, the defender will have to choose between staying stationary and being seen with Jackal's ping or moving and being seen by Lion's. Either way they're pretty screwed
Jackal lion combo will be op affff. Literally no counter. They move from jackal ping they get tracked. If they aren't tracked then u know they are on jackal ping.
Not to mention twitch harassing people that are stading still , IQ spotting people on jammers, Dokkaebi to pinpoint their location through sound and cams. And to think People thought Blackbeard was OP. LOL
FrostedChild I’m fairly certain it’s bc 1. The gas can cause damage on contact, not necessarily just by inhaling it and 2. Everyone’s gas mask likely isn’t designed to filter out his smoke, smoke is the only one that isn’t harmed and you can see he has a more intricate filtration system
JRpainX - You are wrong actually. She stopped moving the moment the scan went live and if you focus on the left side of the screen you can see that Caveira starts to move and gets the red outline. EDIT: Some people maybe do not understand this, but you can move as much as you want while the 3 seconds warning is on. You only can't move when the 4 seconds scan is live.
Not gonna lie these operators sound really dope, I love how you have taken other operators abilities into account in order to provide a fair playing field and not caused a situation with two juggernaut operators who would otherwise wreck shop :) Love the smoke logic the most!
These actually look pretty balanced, For lion, he can be countered by literally not moving. For finka, she has almost too many counters, including Yokai’d, gu’d, being seen from longer ranges by pulse, and dying faster in smokes vape god
Ubisoft HQ:
How do we fix the hacker problem
- lets add wall hacks into the game
Justinny it works, i mean fortnite did the same. They said that the bushes were OP, but then they added wearable bushes and now everyone notice bushes. The same thing is gonna be with lion
If you have ever played blacklight retribution, they put in wallhacks in the game before this even got in this game
Now we can counter the hackers with weaker hacks nice
Justinny xD I hope that Lions ability needs much time to refill
Nicely said haha
the rage quit in this game is gonna increase drastically
Finks ability "New Five Gum-Stimulate Your Senses"
Robert Williams nice one
Can we have a moment and remember how broken Lion was?
😂👌🏽
Year 3 was truly the best of siege 😢
And look where our boy is now 😂
Actually this Lion would save the game 🫠
Ubisoft: How do we get rid of hackers?
Employee: Lets add an operator who can see the enemies perfect outline through walls.
Ubisoft: Amazing idea, Worker #225152.
Nighty when everyone is a wallhacker nobody is
Nighty just don't move when its activated not that hard
The Cosa nostra creed sure just let me stand completely still in a game all about staying mobile because you could be killed in less than a second. I'm sure that'll work is bullets start flying at you if you get spotted, you might get killed, but at least the drone didn't spot you.
Sniff but bro it last for a few seconds just be behind some cover and you will be alright plus it’s a countdown just get behind something you can stand aim down sight and lean and shoot just don’t move your feet it’s not op or anything
Defenders R.I.P.
-радуга
For real R.I.P 😂😂😂
kermit yea oook
Nah
Mute will fix this
Who needs wallhacks now xD
I love how when they are talking about Finka they give side effects "such as elevated heart rate" 1:24, then in the end the narrator says "Ask your teammates if Finka is right for you." Playing on medication commercials. 1:52
TehNoobSlayer i didnt notice that! Wow! So crazy
Have you or any of your loved ones been affected by Adrenal Surge? You may be entitled to legal compensation!
My mom says that i should not take drugs from strangers.
Can you go into vans that say free candy?
Noah Isham i dont want candy i want free wi-fi.
When you’re being shot by a terrorist or something I don’t think that will be your top priority
I dont want to be high i want to be happy
damn smoke is gonne be lit asf
CoG LynX imagine the attackers charging the room buffed up then detonate the gas 😆
JM W RIP attackers
CoG LynX same for pulse
Don’t forget mute
Finally, smoke kills things
imagine u are being called by dokkebi, tracked by lion and jackal, and a twitch drone and blitz are chasing u down. Doesnt it sound fun?
Falconite 001 that sounds amazing
Nope, it sound like you dead already
Chaotic Cactus for the attacking team maybe
Falconite 001 I once was being tracked by jackal, my phone was ringing, and I had no ammo. I somehow survived and killed the jackal lmfao
That sounds amazing. Imagine the coordination you can pull off with the attacking team. So much fun.
Mute just went from an A tier operator to a triple fucking S tier operator
ImaCompleteCyclePath yep
If only people besides me would ever actually use him
I've mained him since I got the game, now I actually have to rush to pick him on the selection screen, interesting.
I play Mute a lot
Wait wait wait, so you're saying that we literally get NANOMACHINES, SON?
This deserves more likes
I will make a ton of fake accounts for you. Your comment deserve respect
We’re all SONS OF THE PATRIOTS NOW BOY!
I played college ball ya know
YES THEY HARDEN IN RESPONSE TO PHYSICAL TRAUMA..THE DEFENDER CANT HURT US
*Spawn peeks with mute jammer*
all jager mains ^^^
EasyEscape lol
That would mean one of his jammers is dedicated to an un-barricaded window. As soon s spawn-peeking stops being a viable option, you've got a jammer that's totally pointless, and can't be moved without risk of death.
BrickBuster2552 that don't matter. Them jäger and ela mains would do anything for a spawnpeek kill
Tell me more about Jäger and Ela's ability to *place Mute jammers.*
I feel like wall hackers will choose Lion just to say they weren’t hacking
lmfao, genius.
They can see the scan being initiated but lol thats gonna be a fire excuse
You know when you're about to be and are being scannned....
Pulse was the choice of hackers for a while for this very reason.
did u even watch the video....
Vigil should be immune to Lion's ability
i agree
It honestly makes no sense that he isnt
he's immune, they just forgot to tell u guys
That would make sense
Makes sense, and I can guess why you brought that up.
Roamers are screwed, imagine Jackal and Lion together!
And Dokkaebi :'(
Jackle scans every 5 sec, lion scans for only 3 ish
Lets Stew It op team
And IQ...
Lets Stew It Don't worry, I'll be jäger and rekt lion
*YOU GET A WALLBANG*
*YOU GET A WALLBANG*
*EVERYONE GETS A WALLBANG*
whaddup_goose true
Lion gonna be hacker new fav operator
Wallbang are gonna get so damn common!
Lion is gonna get nerfed harder than Blackbeard
kitso mangolele Doubt it. if you have a mute or more than 2 braincells Lion's ability is quite useless
CerberusBH but his gunnnns
Lesion has great guns I dont see many people using him for it even though his ability is useful too
What's wrong with him
Lesion is popular right now, idk what your talking about.
Ubisoft: hey hackers you dont need to use cheats anymore we'll just give you them for free
Tomek Machala the new ops aren’t free, you need either 600 credits, 25,000 renown, or the season pass
the hack is, not the OP he said
Frostbite282 why so serious.
Tomek Machala lol rip battle eye
25k renown only of who already have previous 2 season pass.
*Lion and Jackal working together is too OP*
AND DOKKABEI.
How? Lion scan lasts 3ish sec, while jackal only scans every 5. Also dokkebi’s gadget is countered by standing still and turning it off anyway
Dokkebi counter is mute. Period. You spend near 5 secs trying to turn it off with music to your ears and no sight is not a counter.
Lion: *INHALES* UAV INCOMING
Arie_ I was literally thinking the same thing
Arie_ More like Orbital VSAT or Advanced UAV.
I dunno man i stopped playing cod at mw3
I love that they look op but they have a lot counters
Emiliano Jurado
Every operator looks op but than is a throw away pick one the update comes, Cav, Jackal, Dokk I remember everyone crying about how op they were but they're barely used.
When they showed vigil they said op. Yet he's literally one of the worst defenders. They said zophia would make ash useless. They were wrong. Smart players no its not op because of the counters
MegaFallout3Fan That c7e is pretty op though
MegaFallout3Fan I don't know who u are playing with but cav and jackal are used many times this season
Baiting attackers is a good one.
Rip cav mains
Nope just stop moving when the drone is scanning
Jackal is still a stronger counter than lion to cav
Ethan Hill actually no he isn't, as a cav main all I need to do is pulse activate my ability to counter Jackel's scans. Therefore it being easy for me to bait you into a tight room and engage you.
Yep being a cav main is over
attackmaster555 ikr
people crying that it is like wallhacks .. srsly they even told you how to counter it. All that is happening is that spawnpeeking gets less annoying and mute is gonna be played more while roamers have to take a slower approach instead of running around like a hamster on crack
Xiu123 I think people forget about Caveira, Pulse, Jackal, Dokk. Its just funny.
Lol hamster on crack
Xiu123 more like a hamster on steroids
Mute can be a strong spawn peek XD
Ryan Nguyen ye
Pulse meets lion
Pulse: Who are you?
Lion: I am you, but better.
Viktor Tomasik
Picture this: Cav meets Lion.
Cav: who are you?
Lion: I’m you, but slightly better.
I’ll leave.:(
Jordan Hirst buuut hes an attacker so they are still better fir def
Not true...just stand still what's so hard lmao
Andy Ly getting shot at
Pulse meets Finka.
Pulse: Who are you?
Finka: I am your baff.
you hear that? Its the Cries of Caviera Mains.
Filthy McFuze you hear that? * the pistol still 2 shot downs*
it does not 2 shot down. not at any appreciable range/against hvy armours
Arty Theta the moment youre on the same floor against a player with good aim, youve been 2 shot down by a caveira. Being inside the building in basically all siege maps is “appreciable” range
Tanguay
Not really, hallways are a thing. Take bank as an example, cav is effective in the basement but in most other places she needs to use her primary or sneak up closer. Her luison isnt the incredibly strong gun you are making it up to be.
Rogue9 researched the gun's damage dropoff (it's bad)
What if her silent step cancels out the drone detection? It is based on movement
Rip to the last man standing that gets droned out while Lion's ability is active.
or just dont move during the scan lol
666nataS He means that once he gets droned out they know where he is and if hr tries to relocate they will still know where he is.
Lion + Twitch.
Imagine twitch chasing you around while Lion has his ability activated. Guaranteed the defender will move. Good thing she only has 10 zaps now.
Mr Botan she only has 5
he means a total of 10
R.i.P caveria and vigil
Jyn Erso yep
WavesOnWhite Sand elas getting a big nerf
Ikr lol
Now vigil counters it :D
Lion legit has wall hacks and final is the next level doc
quanzer the toxic one XDDD
quanzer finka*
Doc 2.0
Rip autocorrect
Final. Heh.
I like how Everytime there's new operators they look op but once they are released everyone is like "meh.."
Lmao
madiane exactly
Remember how much people spoke about vigil and his op long range shotgun, now when you see a guy picking it you know he will be useless
In blood orchid they thought ela was meh and ying was op but turns out the table has flipped.
madiane it really depends on how you use them.
These operators abilities sound questionable. I'll have to wait and see what it's like to actually play with them, but this video makes them seem incredibly overpowered.
Heisenberg well i mean, only lyion seems op this other girl with weird name is actually ok she us the medic for the attaker team that should have been brom the beginning.
It was the same way with Dokkaebi and Vigil but in the end they're slightly above average
Hiraeth well vigil is pretty OP on that of being really bad, you know, he is friends with the lord also his weapon is... uuhh.
Yo no quiero Ver el mundo arder She can revive a team mate and she doesn't even need to be in the same room. A little op.
Wayne 007 yep, Finka seems very overpowered, I don't know how she'll turn out
Back to the days when siege was a good game
Finally Doc gets a girlfriend
Agent Diego if you look in her bio she flirts with the only lord tachanka
BeastTheCrapPoster oh so finally lord tachanka gets a bae
Agent Diego yus if they has babies they can get more health and benefits and there penises will be lmg's and there ears will hold glass shields to make them invincible
BeastTheCrapPoster and finka trains with Kapkan...
BeastTheCrapPoster XD just thinking about It I wonder how OP Will theyre children be
When people say defense is too easy
Bryce Roberts ahahahahahah
Ugh
Bryce Roberts it is
Rip defense 2018
I think whenever Caviera is in silent step during Lion's scan, she can't be spotted
Good idea people should up vote this idea. My idea is to make Lion a 3 armor character to balance him out with 2 charges.
Vigil, too
I don’t caviera all ready counters jackel there is no real counter to cav therefore lion should still be able to counter her
Yep. I agree. Vigil should also be able to disrupt Lion scans.
Not disrupt but be immune to :D
Hello everyone I am now an official Lion main nice to meet you
Hypervice, be the lion king
Hypervice I'm a Official Finka Main
hi Hypervice, welcome to the wall hackers addicted, nice to meet you!
Agreed good sir
Everyone saying Lion is OP but Finka is ridiculous?
Why do I have a feeling people will call out wall hacks on Lion despite a gadget icon showing
LaX this community isn't like COD we're smarter than that
elchucofried r u sure about that?
People already ignore rook armor, and forget about OBJ countdown timers, what makes you think they'd notice a little blip in the center of their screen?
LaX what could happen is someone wall hacking and making the icon appear
LaX SO TRUE
I've always wanted a doc on attack
Lucian Parra wait so who is the doc on attack Lion or Finka I didn’t get it right
Bryant Hernandez Finka
Lucian Parra a op doc
Oh so cool Lion and Finka.
Now, buff Blackbeard. He's becoming Bitchbeard.
his dmr makes him really strong now
1:54 did they just advertise Finka like a medication?
Gabriel Comer yes
lmao it sounds exactly like something you would see on TV for some stupid pills
I'm honestly impressed.
Gabriel Comer funny
Well done rainbow six
*everyone buys operators*
Next patch: Lion’s drone can be destroyed, gets only one drone scan per match and only scans for 2 seconds lmao
PLZ
whaddup_goose patch two for Lion: Lion will now be 3 armor but will have access to HAMR and will be able to levitate for 5 seconds and will have 1 drone that scans for 2 min
Stop giving them ideas
Operation Health 2.0
Ruboduxk 25K
Vigil should be able to counter Lion's drone. Would be a nice counter to him
Franco ElGorila and it would make vigil’s gadget not a piece of horse manure
He cencors his face from cameras , doesnt quite add up
cameras and drones
not happen the idea of leon drone is it not worth to destroy it (only an idiot who try to get outside and try to shoot the drone that fly somewhere on the sky) and his ability can be counter by camper only. if you look carefully his ability is a phone hack + heartbeat scan except it tracking only moving people.
The problem is that Lion's drone scans even in areas without any outside electronics, meaning that Vigil's Diminished Reality device won't work on it as it relies on electronics VISUALLY seeing him within the device's AOE, which Lion's drone is consistently out of.
Wait, adrenal surge drastically lowers the effect of grzmot mines and concussion grenades, but zofia already has a natural resistance to it, so zofia on adrenal surge is just immune to concussions?
Op! I just found an underrated comment!
Good thinking mate!
did they SERIOUSLY do a "brain on drugs" joke? I love Ubi sometimes
And the whole 'TV medication ad' thing was actually pretty fun, too
HurlyBurly Gaming dude you have no idea i just bought a half oz of some girl scout cookie and you have no idea how much how blown my mind is ( I'm not saying weed is a drug )
Too bad Bandit can't have any.
Emphasis on "Sometimes".
I'm just gonna be tbagging behind protective walls so the attackers can see me😂😂
Gonzalez0122 if you teabag they still can't see you cuz you can change your stance
Matthew Hall Teabag while moving lol
You'll need to move then start tbagging xD
This is your recoil .. This is your recoil on crack !! 😂👏👏👏👏
dammit dabb gaming lol
Shouldn't it be worse since, your all twitching and breathing like crazy..?
Max Lam yeah but since you cant choose if getting the buff it's ok
Yeah these operators are going to ruin the game
dammit dabb gaming pissing myself
Please make Vigil immune to Lions ability, upvote this please.
Why is your profile picture a political compass?
100%
I think the point of lion is to reduce spawn peeking and roamers potency. If you have a character that completely counters that then lion becomes so much worse. Also I main vigil on defence
How exactly would he be immune? His device hacks camera feeds, but Lion's drone uses motion detectors, which have nothing to do with cameras. Besides, the drone is flying so far up that his device would not even work, since it has an effective radius of 12 meters.
Lu Austin MAKE IT SO HIS GHOST MODE MAKES HIM IVISIBLE... SUCH A GOOD IDEA
Lion a counter to caveria and vigil
Ephraim Bemah both if them are a counter to caveria
and spawn killers
TheEngineeringGamer how is finka a counter to caveria
fink can revive you if you get down
*finka
Ok but wheres
my buff ubisoft?
The LORD Tachanka you don’t need one. Your already a god
My lord,it is coming soon
Chanka is rumoured to get a re-work so stay patient for now my friend
U are getting reworked, my lord.
CHAOTIC GAMING Gonzalez His shield is so easy to break now. But is ubisoft really gonna rework him?
So we got hacks
*cough cough* Caveira *cough cough*
kermit nope it’s wall hacks
Yes. For 5 seconds just like caveira hacks
IHateKidsWithAnimeProfilePics caveira doesn’t hold down a button on a downed enemy to see through walls?
You know what he meant, using Cav the right way requires a little skill. Downing an opponent and making sure someone isn't simply going to shoot you the second you start the interrogation that leaves you completely exposed is completely different from Lion's ability that leaves you essentially fucked as a roamer to no cost of the user, how about either Lion becomes a 3 armor character or his ability gets nerfed?
As a wise man once said- "I'm on everyone's blind spot"
lion is op-
*LMG MOUNTED AND READY*
*T H O T S P O T T E D*
LOL
This is the revival of tachanka (not really)
*T H O T T E D*
officalkake lmflaoaoaoao
lion is kinda like having a caveria on the attacking team except there is no latina woman speaking gibberish before she stabs you in the neck and instead a russian man with a lvl 3 backpack that forces you not to move
He's french tho. Finka's the russian one.
aaaah gotchu
I came here to correct you but I’m too late
Caveira is in big trouble....
Seto Mulyadi rip caveira :*(
Seto Mulyadi not really
not really
People said the same thing when jackal was revealed
LHunter101 Yea but jackal only pings them, he doesn't see them in real time like lion and finka
How come Finka dies more quickly when using adrenal surge in Smoke's smoke when she's wearing a gas mask?
The gas mask should clearly be able to filter the smoke for her faster rate of breathing
FrostedChild that would be too op if she didnt have a countet
FrostedChild Balancing man. It’s weird i know
Sledge thatcher and mute all have mask and they can’t breathe it either
they only wear gas mask while Smoke wears a special suit as you can see a kind of filter in his back
Depends on what gas mask she has. Many of them wont work cause it would not be able to filter it out
yall better put more maps in the ranked rotation I swear to jesus.
Put every map back in and LET. US. CHOOSE.
Take every map out and only house
Damn imagin a smoke take out all 5 attackers with finka's boost when they push the OBJ
Buff Doc's gadget and make Vigil immune to the tagging
Dylan Wong vigil is already immune
Schawinx As of now he can't counter Lion's gadget, it makes no sense and would be an appropriate buff for him.
oh, my bad. i still think that that buff is gonna come sooner or later since it wouldnt make sense for vigil not to be able to stay hidden
If mute is a direct counter to LION, So is vigil
Doc doesn't need a buff
Is WatchMojo behind these ideas?
aamake547 sounds like it
@TrolleyXLakers - Jordansexual stopper true
TrolleyXLakers - Club Shay Shay manager this was before para vellum
dummy
Lion may allow the acog back on Jager and Bandit 😂😂😂
Arthur Syval true xD
I hope so
OMG YAS DADDY
Arthur Syval that should be a legit rule in the game
Arthur Syval DONT forget the smg11
People who think its op probably play ela lmao
The Casual Hamburger looks like caveira and ela are about to meet their match 😆
JM W Caviera?
Elas gonna be worthless in the next patch... way more recoil, reduced damage, and no more impact grenades. That in combination with the introduction of finka, makes her useless now. basically jager with a shittier gun.
POLSKA !!!
Eduardo Lima because finka can globally heal, downed teammates will get healed before cav can interrogate
Finka: Caviera, you have no power here
Crashicle cause getting 2 shot downed is powerless 🤔
Tanguay it is WHEN THEY SEE YOU THROUGH WALLS
That sneaky ninja then all defenders are singled out and powerless 👌🏼
Tanguay YOU DARE DISRESPECT THEE LORD?
Tanguay but yea, they're all screw with lion and jackel
3:28 “getting tagged isn’t a death sentence yeah it was in 2018
God. The uneven ratio of attackers to defenders is going to make my OCD go berzerk.
Elijah Cedeno Right now their balanced... until the ops release that is
Same
Elijah Cedeno so you didn’t have ocd during blood orchid?
Elijah Cedeno I'm actually thinking they're gonna release 2 defenders at a later date of the outbreak, since it's such a big event and there could be something like "they've advanced, we need to make a defensive retreat" and bring in two more specialists
Lmao you’re acting like caveria and Jagers spawnpeeking isn’t annoying for attacker’s
At least finka doesnt sound to op. she has lots of counters so thats good.
Yeah, but the wall hack is kinda OP...it would have made more sense if the scan detected sound. And rather than a clear silhouette it's more distorted based on the amount of sound emitted. That way caveira can still avoid it, mute can block it, and it can be used tactically, so anyone roaming (bandit, ela, jager) can't move or at least not much.
Dave Gunner i guarantee Lion will get nerfed like ela did not long after her release
Hope so... it really sounds lame to Wall-Hack, especially because it is so unrealistic.
its pretty easy to counter tho, just stand still. He also only has two charges.
Yeah, the fact that she makes Echo, Lesion and Smoke better makes her really interesting.
I think that lion should be the only person to see the players which allows more communication within the team
I totally agree with this, or he will be just like Ela's gun before nerf lol
Yes, just like pulse
Makes sense👍🏻
or he is the first guy who get teamkilled because every body want to use him. r6 tradition !
I agree
Loin: wears a whole bucket
Ubisoft: let’s make em a 2 speed
You said loin like pork loin
Lion is hella thicc
He dummy thicc!
Gtfo
Koyo Akizuki that's gay
Julian Sanchez not as long as balls don't touch
And Yet he has 2 Armor lol
I love how Finka's weaknesses actually make sense. Increased heartbeat and breathing would get you killed faster by Pulse and Smoke irl, so I like the attention to detail.
*he gets 3 WHATS?*
Patrick Star that profile picture fits perfectly with your comment my good man
Patrick Star Plus wallhacks that make him better than Pulse and Jackal
Lion should get only 2 EE-ONE-D'S but last for 10-15 seconds. It should also not be affective to Vigil. (Idk I'm dumb)
We gave our new attacker, Lion, the ability to locate all enemies wherever they are
*YOU WHAT?!*
Icey Dash I doubt your rank is higher than gold
LORD 'CHANKAAA!!!!!!!
outlier 07 got tht from cartoonz?
Mikey Doe from every siege player in existence
Cringe
Lion is going to be a overpowered operator at least have vigil not being tag by lion Gadgets when vigil activate his ability who agree???
22king _gd22 then that means he can't be tracked at all and still move. The whole point of the ability is to distract the defending ops and prepare for a rush. For example, making then not want to move so then your team can drone them out or rush. And also it's useful because then it temporarily stops roamers from moving preventing flanks and if you're standing in a mute jammer radius you can still move as long as you're in the radius AND you can communicate with your team and prepare to ambush the enemy while not moving. Try all the solutions and counter attacks they clearly and briefly presented to you before you start whining for a nerf.
Da Kurlz so you just want vigil to be useless then? It sounds like you just want Lion to have zero counters.
22king _gd22 that doesn’t make sense because vigils ability make cameras not see him not a radar that scans the area
oh yes I agree 4732890758093285093428509%
22king _gd22 Meh operator seems situational the operator gives more reason to be an anqour instead of roaming finka Looks useless honestly both combined is 40 health per teammate plus the gun selection doesn’t look like any pluses so r4 And f2 Still for the win.
Im surprised and disappointed that vigil doesnt counter lion
chilicockoff IKR
He really should, so stupid.
Vigil counters cameras? It'd make no sense.
chilicockoff True!!!
chilicockoff I'm pretty sure that lions drone detracts people by heat signatures. And vigil can only become invisible to cameras but not heat signatures
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Oh my god he did!
SOMTHING?????????????
where
DarkEclipse remember when they said who's gonna be in the outbreak they mentioned the recruit
Yeah that they would be playable in the zombies mode, that’s all. You noob. ;)
I remember when little kids cried about standing still.
Sooooo the girl is a drug dealer and the guy is a hacker hmm seems fair
XxZoomxX 316 they need switched
we already got a hacker lady, and she looks like she thinks she's superior to everyone else, which she isn't, because Tachanka exists, with his mate Kapkan to funnel the attackers down to his lmg that is both mounted and loaded.
XxZoomxX 316 lol finka is bandits sister
So lion is a wall hacker and finka is bandits sister cuz she has drugs...seems legit👌
XxZoomxX 316 😂😂😂
Yeah that's all cool and all but the question is....
Where's the Tachanka buff?
FrostedChild indirect tachanka buff when lion uses his gadget tachanka the lord doesn’t move while on his turret so he’s fine
He’s getting reworked, sadly
The real question is
What's in the canister?
Dank_ Drugs
Dank_ fookin lasah sights
Lion= Until Dawn simulator.
Red I was think the same thing
Red That is so accurate.
They should have kept lion’s ability being able to outline enemies
That was literal wall hacks.
No
Actually i can stay with the ping but they should reverse the duration bc now it feel really lackluster and sound like a baby lion before it strikes fear and it’s like an earthquake.
@@muhummadkhan5787 tell that to cav the defender.
Now you can see how powerfull vodka it is...
AduyCP16 for mother Russia
i just say...F2 without recoil
C8-SFW with no recoil
sort of trick for lion i just thought up: save at least one drone scan during bomb and secure area, because if you're securing you can use it to see where the enemies are coming from, and if they stop it'll drain more time
Thats the point
ChrisHoostin they literally said that at 2:33
ChrisHoostin actually really good idea
It only lasts for 5 seconds.
That's 5 important seconds
Watch them get nerfed in a week lol
*2 weeks until they're out
@Uni like he said, a week.
yea, lol xD
Jackal will work really well with Lion. If you're on someone's trail with Jackal and Lion uses his ability, the defender will have to choose between staying stationary and being seen with Jackal's ping or moving and being seen by Lion's. Either way they're pretty screwed
I CANT WAIT!! To get team killed for choosing the new operators! :'')))
Flying V rip same
I feel you.
Of course
Same
Flying V They barely do that nowadays
Jackal lion combo will be op affff. Literally no counter. They move from jackal ping they get tracked. If they aren't tracked then u know they are on jackal ping.
Doom DnSkY also fuze
Not to mention twitch harassing people that are stading still , IQ spotting people on jammers, Dokkaebi to pinpoint their location through sound and cams. And to think People thought Blackbeard was OP. LOL
Yeah Lion is going to be crazy OP. My guess is he's going to get heavily nerfed.
Sheep That would require a lot of teamwork, which is something a lot of players will have a hard time pulling off.
R4NKEDNUB teamwork makes the dream work
I wonder what would happen if Finka used her ability during an interrogation🤔
Would definitely wanna see that actually.
The downed attacker punches cav in the face hopefully
Will Stevenson no, they just eat the knife
Adam Nelson you cant, just like how you can't activate a breach charge while being interrogated
Adam Nelson hmmmmmmmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
What's next? An operator with a jetpack? An operator that can go invisible? An operator with a rocket laucher?
betrayed honestly a jetpack would be rly rly cool imo !
Overlongful But realistic and probably OP.
An operator with ottoman slap
betrayed vigil can already go invisible
Andrew Mornes-Jones To drones
*4 speed no hit box swole Ash with wall hacks and no recoil💀*
Ik it doesn’t increase speed directly, just tying the make a joke*
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Frost still work xD
RZheng 02 hahaha
3 speed with hit box ash
there is no speed buff.
The power of the Vodka is strong in Finka!!!
no it's the lord's blood
BanditoDorito Obviously! Lord's blood is Vodka!
*stronk
People with wall hacks will blame it on Lion
The drone only works for a few seconds also you won't be detected if you're not moving so you can identify a hacker if you see one
The entire map knows when the scan is active, and you know when you're detected, so...no.
It's no more an excuse than it would be with Jackal.
Arcane thank you
“Ask your (doctor) teammates to find out if (insert medicine here) Finka, is right for you”
Nice, Narrator.
Lion Is A Makeup for Jackal basically
[TeKoN Sp33d] not really
[TeKoN Sp33d] no
Rip jackal nobody is going to play him anymore
Lmao barely even close to jackal wtf
A better jackal with a worse gun I’m guessing
How does Finka die from the smoke IF she's wearing a gas mask??? X_X
FrostedChild How do Sledge and Thatcher die?
its... its ughhhh... Suuuuuper Gas
We don't know what's in the canister, that's why
SolarFlash underrated comment
FrostedChild I’m fairly certain it’s bc 1. The gas can cause damage on contact, not necessarily just by inhaling it and 2. Everyone’s gas mask likely isn’t designed to filter out his smoke, smoke is the only one that isn’t harmed and you can see he has a more intricate filtration system
what even is the point in jackal now
i think i saw a caveira moving while lion activites his gadget, and caveira was not detected sooo yeah... 3:24
prob she was near mutes gadget
JRpainX - You are wrong actually. She stopped moving the moment the scan went live and if you focus on the left side of the screen you can see that Caveira starts to move and gets the red outline.
EDIT:
Some people maybe do not understand this, but you can move as much as you want while the 3 seconds warning is on. You only can't move when the 4 seconds scan is live.
The lord gets useful
FUG Clan buff tachanka
Imagine Tachanka gets a buff where they add wheels to his torrent
Green Guy why is that so funny to imagine?! 😂😂😂 just rolling down the hallways screaming and firing
Finka a Russian who juices huh
Craytonex OOoooo
Well played sir
Well,Played
He gonna get banned
LOL 😂😂
Craytonex finka jucices tachanka
Too much Vodka.
Not gonna lie these operators sound really dope, I love how you have taken other operators abilities into account in order to provide a fair playing field and not caused a situation with two juggernaut operators who would otherwise wreck shop :) Love the smoke logic the most!
My Smoke-runs are gonna be so dope.
Lego AnimeLTD Exactly.
Marcel Salas Garcia I completely agree!
Marcel Salas Garcia its THERMAL. THERMAL. So Vigil being immune to it makes no sense. Hes not immune to THERMAL
kjfd fs4 No it’s a motion detector
Nerf incoming!
right about that
how? there are not even out yet lol
These actually look pretty balanced, For lion, he can be countered by literally not moving. For finka, she has almost too many counters, including Yokai’d, gu’d, being seen from longer ranges by pulse, and dying faster in smokes vape god
It’s Bucky Well you can't always just not move
Just don't move
Lion is so amazing. It can be used to not only see people through walls, but to stop enemies in their tracks and buy time to rush in.