My Grandfather owned this exact model Smith & Wesson .32 caliber rimfire. One Saturday we took it to the local pistol range and fired CIL Canuck copper cased .32 rimfire long cartridges on it. These were smokeless loads only and the revolver shot well. Accuracy was poor due to severe barrel pitting.
The dude who shot him in the back of the head was a straight up coward. I'm sure he wasn't looked on very kindly by many people after this dastardly deed. That was a great story.
@@jayhaisley2889 He was hung in December of that year. He was bragging around the wrong people and a Sheriff over heard him, I believe in South Dakota. I looked up this information on the internet, because I was curious myself.
@@fokkerd3red618 He was executed in the then capital of the Dakotas in Yankton (would later move to Pierre after some catastrophic flooding of Yankton as well as the simultaneous induction of statehood of both Dakotas) which is in South Dakota.
Probably. Majority of (Gen Z's) have never been to a museum. The ones who are interested can just watch about it for free on RUclips. Older generations haven't been able to go thanks to the government these last 2 years. They probably have no choice but to downsize. I know I haven't had the urge to go museum hopping in a lonnnng time.
The provenance of this pistol would have to be absolutely authenticated (by somebody other than RIAC) before I would even begin to believe that it was ever in his possession. If this is the same pistol that went to auction in 2013, the last owners got it as a "mysterious gift" in 1972 from the family that was at least the third party to allegedly gained possession of the gun from Hickok's effects. Curious how run of the mill pistols can acquire authentication when, in fact, chain of custody is sketchy at best, starting with the understanding that this pistol can't be attributed to Hickok other than by hearsay.
Very true. Its not like it's Pattons Smith and Wesson that had a specialized serial number. The idea of this one belonging to Bill, alone will demand a premium price.
What kind of 'records' are you hoping to find? A receipt from Acme Mercantile for a sale to "Bill" in Deadwood? A Pony Express delivery slip from Sears & Roebuck to Mr. Hickock's home address? You seek something that doesn't exist. I would argue that since the authenticity of this piece HAS NOT BEEN CHALLENGED IN OVER 50 YEARS speaks volumes. No other piece is in consideration. If there were several making claims, then, okay...but, to this day, there aren't any. That is why it sold at auction. Again.
@@mrfuriouser Somewhere, someone (say, S&W and the retail vendor who actually sold the pistol) has records that contain information such as serial number, point of sale, date of manufacture, the original owner, and shipping data. Receipts and letters can be used to identify change of ownership and custody of a firearm as well. That is how you establish provenance. Anything less than that is fairy tales and hokum. Unless this pistol has that kind of evidence to support the claim by the seller and RIA, I would certainly question its authenticity, and so should you.
@@boydgrandy5769 Hope in one hand, brother. This ain't fine art. This is a disposable item. I hope you find those records. I really do. But with fires, sloppy record-keeping et al., I don't think there's much chance, anymore. Certainly not with Hickock's name associated to a serial number. That never existed.
James Butler Hickok RIP. “I never insulted man or woman in my life, but if you knew what wholesome regard I have for damn liars and rascals, they would be liable to keep out of my way.” -Wild Bill
@@cliffordbowman6777Easy to talk about somebody whos boots ya never stood in, in a time you never lived in. Thing is what you say is just talk nothing more.
If I bought this gun I would give it to a great museum with a clause that says if they sell off their stock they must return it to me to then be placed in another museum...These pieces need to be shown and the stories told for generation..Not shoved in a drawer somewhere...The museum could keep it as long as they continue to tell the story.
I hope that the Americans will "carry the torch of the Wild West" for a longtime! In present times the History seems to be, for some people, only a motive of shame and guilt, and something to be wiped out. The story of Wild Bill is known worldwide now, thanks to the HBO's "Deadwood", and it is incredible to see the S&W Thant belonged to the REAL Wild Bill! Hope the gun will stay in the USA. Or in the CSA, in the future :) Greetings from Europe!
"Tell my wife I love her" was picked up by the paranormal group "Everyday Paranormal" on a digital voice recorder as an EVP. I totally believe what they recorded was truly unquestionable evidence of the after life.
The "Dead Man's Hand" is just a pair of aces and eights. The added detail of them being all black suites is an embellishment. It's possible that they could have been, but it's basically a telephone game to figure out that detail of the story.
Hmm, i wasn't aware that the provenence on this piece was considered to be that strong. As I understand it, it is traceable to Deadwood at the time but no firm evidence other than hearsay that places in Bill's possession; has new evidence come to light?
If this is the only known no.2 revolver attributed to Wild Bill during deadwood time, we can be pretty sure this is the one when he died, such a important revolver even back in the days, known to be Wild Bills revolver would have been saved and cherished, so the one he wore must be this one, otherwise it had been dokumented that there was two known to be in his ownership, THE revolver he wore would have been saved and talked about extensively at the time.
I don’t have doubts about the provenance of this pistol, but that not one but both of his Navy 36’s were auctioned off right after his death for 25 cents each, to try to cover his debts, shows how little his possessions mattered at the time and place.
Buffalo Bill Historical Center has two mismatched Colt M. 51’s, which were raffled off to pay to bury him! The S&W hideout gun is only a distraction IMHO!
Would have nice to have Ian *"Gun Jebus"* Mc Collum in this vid considering Wild Bill and He look so alike, I've always felt that the disgraceful murder by the coward mc call was motivated by people who didn't want Wild Bill around Deadwood, He was a Good Man, in a Hard Time (and vice versa!)
These old revolvers are the most beautiful weapons ever made. Something about them just clicks with me. If they werent so unreliable i would chose them today as my weapon of choice. If i lived in a country that allowed me to own one that is....i dont.
So someone paid 616K for that 1851 Navy, of course several publications (and the internet for whatever that’s worth) that Wild Bill had gone to a cylinder conversion a year before his death. It seems there is just as much evidence he carried the cylinder conversion as this S&W. Rock Island knows full well there are over a dozen accounts written going back decades supposedly documenting a certain firearm that was carried by Hickok when he was killed. I have a lot of respect for Rock Island but these Wild Bill stories just keep coming in. It’s like the stories of who shot Ringo or was it suicide!
I thought that cowboys generally played Faro and that Poker wasn’t popular until later. I wonder if there is any real evidence that he was playing poker.
My favorite revolver is still my first. 1980 Ruger old army. One off aluminum and brass shoulder stock. 45LC conversion cylinder. Have yet to shoot conversion.
Is there any documentation to prove this is the same gun? I see stories like this in the guitar world all the time but they almost never have proof it actually belonged to someone famous.
How common was this model pistol at the time of Hickok's death? This may be traceable to Deadwood at that time, but there may be another hundred same model revolvers that can be.
@@TeamZcan no they weren't anymore because they were converted to cartridges not caps so they were converted percussion revolvers if you want say that . But they were converted so no longer used caps but bullets Savvy
@@wadetaylor1299 Both of his 1851 Colts are well known, both are still percussion as issued, neither one is converted. Put your Bud Lite down and do a little research before looking any more ignorant.
@@TeamZcan you our a fool who has a keyboard name. Get educated he had his 51s converted before he had gone to deadwood like lot had or all the percussion models army converted . Do u know what it means even. Put your bush light and hot dogs down. Look into what a converted percussion handgun is or that Bill had his 51 navy's converted like i said tin horn.
Its funny to me how these people claim these weapons belonged to some famous person but there is no possible way to prove it since they didnt register serial numbers and nobody from that time is alive. Just made up "facts" out of greed.
He definitely carried 1851 Colt Navy revolvers earlier in his life. However, multiple respected authors on the topic state that Wild Bill did make a change in his later years.
@@RockIslandAuctionCompany I don't believe you know he was carrying this revolver that day 100 percent ! Who took it from his body ? Why wasn't it sold along with his Colts to help pay for his grave site ?
Musicis Garbage . You Dont Need It . I Need To see the Colt .Bill Had a Colt Dragoon . And Had 4 or 5 Loaded Cylinders. Had a belt made to carry them .
Do I believe items belonging to notable persons that supposedly magically appear with no firm provenance or chain of possession are real? If there is a large amount of money at stake, not really.
Because it didn't magically appear. It's a well-known and documented gun that can trace its ownership back to 1876. It's in almost every book that talks about the guns of Wild Bill Hickok. It has been thoroughly scrutinized by historians and authors.
i visited a few times. said thot dad said i may have been concieved in upstairs rooms for rent. shot photos for few local bands in bars near . spent few nites in same iron cage as got cot for pot. apon release an ol west photo studio partner visited black hills and we shot replicas of this gun, i thot. Me bad shot laid gun apon forearm to steady aim.. School nurse helped clean as got blood poison from powder burn. i visited bars site few years back for college reunion . ...
I love his youtube channel!
I didn't know Wild Bill had a youtube channel....
@@ericellquist7007 it is not very well known. Will Bill Hickok’s grandfather, now runs the RUclips channel, titled “Hickok45”
I highly recommend it.
I'm new, but I'm hooked now
My Grandfather owned this exact model Smith & Wesson .32 caliber rimfire. One Saturday we took it to the local pistol range and fired CIL Canuck copper cased .32 rimfire long cartridges on it. These were smokeless loads only and the revolver shot well. Accuracy was poor due to severe barrel pitting.
Fun fact: 110 dollars in 1876 is equivalent to a little over 3,000 dollars today..Not too shabby for a day at the poker table.
The dude who shot him in the back of the head was a straight up coward. I'm sure he wasn't looked on very kindly by many people after this dastardly deed. That was a great story.
Yes, good video. But I was awaiting the fate of the bastard that shot him. No such luck.
@@jayhaisley2889 He was hung in December of that year. He was bragging around the wrong people and a Sheriff over heard him, I believe in South Dakota. I looked up this information on the internet, because I was curious myself.
@@fokkerd3red618 Well, duh. Why didn't I think of that?
Jack Mcall sealed his own fate by blabbing about the murder while he was drunk...Yes indeed..They hung his ass.
@@fokkerd3red618 He was executed in the then capital of the Dakotas in Yankton (would later move to Pierre after some catastrophic flooding of Yankton as well as the simultaneous induction of statehood of both Dakotas) which is in South Dakota.
Is the Cody museum in financial trouble ? Selling off a key piece in their collection..
Did they own it, or was it just on loan from the actual owner?
Didnt they say EXACTLY so, that it was on display at Cody Museum ”on Loan”?
Probably a loan
They’re past due on rent
Probably. Majority of (Gen Z's) have never been to a museum. The ones who are interested can just watch about it for free on RUclips. Older generations haven't been able to go thanks to the government these last 2 years. They probably have no choice but to downsize. I know I haven't had the urge to go museum hopping in a lonnnng time.
Bravo 👏 👏 👏 👏
another tale well told by Joel
The provenance of this pistol would have to be absolutely authenticated (by somebody other than RIAC) before I would even begin to believe that it was ever in his possession.
If this is the same pistol that went to auction in 2013, the last owners got it as a "mysterious gift" in 1972 from the family that was at least the third party to allegedly gained possession of the gun from Hickok's effects. Curious how run of the mill pistols can acquire authentication when, in fact, chain of custody is sketchy at best, starting with the understanding that this pistol can't be attributed to Hickok other than by hearsay.
Very true.
Its not like it's Pattons Smith and Wesson that had a specialized serial number.
The idea of this one belonging to Bill, alone will demand a premium price.
Exactly, no real documentation.
What kind of 'records' are you hoping to find? A receipt from Acme Mercantile for a sale to "Bill" in Deadwood? A Pony Express delivery slip from Sears & Roebuck to Mr. Hickock's home address? You seek something that doesn't exist. I would argue that since the authenticity of this piece HAS NOT BEEN CHALLENGED IN OVER 50 YEARS speaks volumes. No other piece is in consideration. If there were several making claims, then, okay...but, to this day, there aren't any. That is why it sold at auction. Again.
@@mrfuriouser Somewhere, someone (say, S&W and the retail vendor who actually sold the pistol) has records that contain information such as serial number, point of sale, date of manufacture, the original owner, and shipping data. Receipts and letters can be used to identify change of ownership and custody of a firearm as well.
That is how you establish provenance. Anything less than that is fairy tales and hokum.
Unless this pistol has that kind of evidence to support the claim by the seller and RIA, I would certainly question its authenticity, and so should you.
@@boydgrandy5769 Hope in one hand, brother. This ain't fine art. This is a disposable item. I hope you find those records. I really do. But with fires, sloppy record-keeping et al., I don't think there's much chance, anymore. Certainly not with Hickock's name associated to a serial number. That never existed.
James Butler Hickok RIP. “I never insulted man or woman in my life, but if you knew what wholesome regard I have for damn liars and rascals, they would be liable to keep out of my way.” -Wild Bill
Kind of a bully sounds like. Anyway to kill all them people and always insisting it was “their fault” he had to kill them. ?
@@cliffordbowman6777Easy to talk about somebody whos boots ya never stood in, in a time you never lived in.
Thing is what you say is just talk nothing more.
If I bought this gun I would give it to a great museum with a clause that says if they sell off their stock they must return it to me to then be placed in another museum...These pieces need to be shown and the stories told for generation..Not shoved in a drawer somewhere...The museum could keep it as long as they continue to tell the story.
I hope that the Americans will "carry the torch of the Wild West" for a longtime!
In present times the History seems to be, for some people, only a motive of shame and guilt, and something to be wiped out.
The story of Wild Bill is known worldwide now, thanks to the HBO's "Deadwood", and it is incredible to see the S&W Thant belonged to the REAL Wild Bill!
Hope the gun will stay in the USA.
Or in the CSA, in the future :)
Greetings from Europe!
"Tell my wife I love her" was picked up by the paranormal group "Everyday Paranormal" on a digital voice recorder as an EVP. I totally believe what they recorded was truly unquestionable evidence of the after life.
What a nice piece,history and all behind it
Joel Kollander is by far the best narrator and storyteller RIAC has, by a long shot! Wonderful story, very cool gun, excellent presentation, 10/10.
@Joel Kolander Great content! Loved both the videos on Hickok's revolvers. Great presentation of information factual and mythological.
Very cool. Way out of my range, but I may well watch the auction live. Interesting presentation, thanks !
The "Dead Man's Hand" is just a pair of aces and eights. The added detail of them being all black suites is an embellishment. It's possible that they could have been, but it's basically a telephone game to figure out that detail of the story.
So awesome. Thank you.
This dude tells a great story
Cpt Crawford's poems hits me hard .
The letter WB wrote the day of his death to his wife was beautiful, never mind the spelling. 😉
Had to read it twice, i know i "say" this a lot but WOW , Cheers Joel 🖐
Thank you.
Beautifully done sir
I have one of these in great condition, excellent video, thanks for sharing
*Rock Island Auction Company* Very nice, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. God Bless.
Hmm, i wasn't aware that the provenence on this piece was considered to be that strong. As I understand it, it is traceable to Deadwood at the time but no firm evidence other than hearsay that places in Bill's possession; has new evidence come to light?
Kinda crazy to think it’s not rlly that long ago🤷🏻♂️
A brilliant. Narration. Thanks
Excellent video and well spoken information.
If I had the money I would pay up big time to have that piece of history as well
If this is the only known no.2 revolver attributed to Wild Bill during deadwood time, we can be pretty sure this is the one when he died, such a important revolver even back in the days, known to be Wild Bills revolver would have been saved and cherished, so the one he wore must be this one, otherwise it had been dokumented that there was two known to be in his ownership, THE revolver he wore would have been saved and talked about extensively at the time.
I don’t have doubts about the provenance of this pistol,
but that not one but both of his Navy 36’s were auctioned off right after his death for 25 cents each, to try to cover his debts,
shows how little his possessions mattered at the time and place.
Maybe sold to a friend at a cheap price
Buffalo Bill Historical Center has two mismatched Colt M. 51’s, which were raffled off to pay to bury him! The S&W hideout gun is only a distraction IMHO!
@@davekoenig9935 hi Dave!
Do you know if there’s any information on why the ‘36 pair isn’t numbers matched?
@@Daddy53751 nope! But there is a note to this effect. BBHC might send you their serial #’s, so you can research it further??
Would have nice to have Ian *"Gun Jebus"* Mc Collum in this vid considering Wild Bill and He look so alike,
I've always felt that the disgraceful murder by the coward mc call was motivated by people who didn't want Wild Bill around Deadwood, He was a Good Man, in a Hard Time (and vice versa!)
These old revolvers are the most beautiful weapons ever made. Something about them just clicks with me. If they werent so unreliable i would chose them today as my weapon of choice. If i lived in a country that allowed me to own one that is....i dont.
So someone paid 616K for that 1851 Navy, of course several publications (and the internet for whatever that’s worth) that Wild Bill had gone to a cylinder conversion a year before his death. It seems there is just as much evidence he carried the cylinder conversion as this S&W. Rock Island knows full well there are over a dozen accounts written going back decades supposedly documenting a certain firearm that was carried by Hickok when he was killed. I have a lot of respect for Rock Island but these Wild Bill stories just keep coming in. It’s like the stories of who shot Ringo or was it suicide!
Lol you guys zoomed in on north central North Dakota when you said “bound for the gold fields of the black hills” 😂😂
I've studied the Wild West since I was young, I'm 53, and I've NEVER heard anything about Wild Bill playing poker with Jack McCall.
Apparently Hickock and McCall played poker the day before, that is why McCall murdered Wild Bill.
I grew up in Deadwood and never heard of them playing poker either.
I thought that cowboys generally played Faro and that Poker wasn’t popular until later. I wonder if there is any real evidence that he was playing poker.
Can you tell us what it went for at Auction?
The music is terrible
A distance measured in feet...., as opposed to miles? Meters? Inches? Light years? Board feet?
The movie with Jeff bridges is awesome
My favorite revolver is still my first. 1980 Ruger old army. One off aluminum and brass shoulder stock. 45LC conversion cylinder. Have yet to shoot conversion.
Is there any documentation to prove this is the same gun? I see stories like this in the guitar world all the time but they almost never have proof it actually belonged to someone famous.
Its a compelling sales pitch for this nice old Smith. It will bring a high price which is the object I suspect.
Colorado Charlie Utter was actually from Niagara Falls,NY and died in Panama in 1915.
The 5th card was the 7 of diamonds.
How common was this model pistol at the time of Hickok's death? This may be traceable to Deadwood at that time, but there may be another hundred same model revolvers that can be.
7;00 provenance is virtually irrefutable; explained starting at the 7 minute mark. view it.
"Experts" opinions mean little, as they were not there or alive then.
True and they are just looking to make as much as they can . Not enough proof
I find it kinda shameful that such kinds of artifacts can even show up at auctions. They should be in a museum, accessible to the public!
Great video, but annoying music.
How much did it go for?
I tought Wild Bill used a pair of colt Navy 1851 when he was shot in Deadwood?
That letter is dated June of 1876, and it was sent from Nebraska… it says all of this on the actual letter.
Get your facts straight. You showed a map of North Dakota not South Dakota . The Black Hills are SD.
Can’t even finish the video bc of the god awful music.
Talk about a bad beat
He had his 51s converted to cartridge and wasn't just carrying the smiths
They are both still percussion
@@TeamZcan no they weren't anymore because they were converted to cartridges not caps so they were converted percussion revolvers if you want say that . But they were converted so no longer used caps but bullets Savvy
@@wadetaylor1299
Both of his 1851 Colts are well known, both are still percussion as issued, neither one is converted.
Put your Bud Lite down and do a little research before looking any more ignorant.
@@TeamZcan you our a fool who has a keyboard name. Get educated he had his 51s converted before he had gone to deadwood like lot had or all the percussion models army converted . Do u know what it means even. Put your bush light and hot dogs down. Look into what a converted percussion handgun is or that Bill had his 51 navy's converted like i said tin horn.
@@TeamZcan u must be team run my mouth not no what a converted percussion revolver is clearly
I thought he carried pearl handled pistols????
Cody museum is must c 4 any old west fans
😮😇😮 RIP Wild Bill
Why would you sell this?
Must been a very tough decision to make.
@@AIRRAID2 i couldnt picture it unless i was in danger.
Needing table stakes.
Greed, need the money
Guns don't pay bills.
It's always sad when a good man is murdered by a drunken coward.
So what happened to the guy that shot wild bill?
Got off in Deadwood court, went to Yankton South Dakota and bragged about it . Was Retried and found guilty and hung.
Cowardly way to kill someone
didn't he always carry pistols in pairs?
Money vs History, History generally loses, after all Money TALKS!!!
After being in a bar in the Philippine Island that was machinegunned, I always face the door, or I don't sit down.
The gesture was and is still an insult at the table
HIs eyesight was failing.
He Had Glaucoma...
@@jeffadams9807 The Latest I have heard is that it was not Glaucoma.
I'm not seeing this gun as provable it was his.
I was watching deadwood last night. I admire the s&w topbreak. But dam its not worth that much even if it was bills.....
But in detroit.. it's worth 50 bucks. Name the movie
°Trading PLaces ••••••• "Ooh, How Much For The Gun" .??? 😊
@@w.neuman finally LOL
@@uarbor70 :)
I thought he carried 36.cal navy revolver.
Earlier in his life he definitely did. 1851 Colt Navy. ruclips.net/video/aOcLABE5EcM/видео.html
Aces and eights...
Sounds like a curator needs some extra cash
To Bill...that was not a handsome woman but I'm sure you saw her inner beauty
Its funny to me how these people claim these weapons belonged to some famous person but there is no possible way to prove it since they didnt register serial numbers and nobody from that time is alive. Just made up "facts" out of greed.
He murdered his own deputy screwing around
A distant cousin of mine
Wonder when the wreckers will designate him 'racist' and cancel him out of history.
False, Wild Bill used 36 Cal. Colts. One came up missing at the time of his death.
He definitely carried 1851 Colt Navy revolvers earlier in his life. However, multiple respected authors on the topic state that Wild Bill did make a change in his later years.
@@RockIslandAuctionCompany Can you find out how much this one sold for ....please...??
Why the Fuck is it not in the Museum???
It was (on loan) at the Cody Museum.
why doesn't he look at the camera
How does that gun work if it has no trigger?
When the hammer is pulled back the trigger pops out
I belive wild bill was losing his eyesight due to glicoma
What about syphilis or other STD's?
@@joshuagibson2520 The film claims syphilis
They were psychopaths
Has it been swabbed for brain-matter?
I have a s&w # 2 handed down from my gp, like to sell don't know how to go about it, looks just like that picture.
You shouldn’t sell them. They must have some personal value for you family. best you can do is keep it your grandchildren/children
I have no realities left no family or kids, I am the last.
@@kennyporter8215Oh, I am sorry if I offended you,I don’t know
@@Evtim_25 I don't think he was offended . Just saying his story
So you're saying you don't know 100% if this is Wild Bill's gun!
On the contrary. We are stating this is Wild Bill's gun. Period.
@@RockIslandAuctionCompany I don't believe you know he was carrying this revolver that day 100 percent ! Who took it from his body ? Why wasn't it sold along with his Colts to help pay for his grave site ?
Musicis Garbage . You Dont Need It . I Need To see the Colt .Bill Had a Colt Dragoon . And Had 4 or 5 Loaded Cylinders. Had a belt made to carry them .
he was my momma's 6th cousin, her brother looks just like him same hair, I got the hair 🤓🗡️
Do I believe items belonging to notable persons that supposedly magically appear with no firm provenance or chain of possession are real? If there is a large amount of money at stake, not really.
Because it didn't magically appear. It's a well-known and documented gun that can trace its ownership back to 1876. It's in almost every book that talks about the guns of Wild Bill Hickok. It has been thoroughly scrutinized by historians and authors.
$5
i visited a few times. said thot dad said i may have been concieved in upstairs rooms for rent. shot photos for few local bands in bars near . spent few nites in same iron cage as got cot for pot. apon release an ol west photo studio partner visited black hills and we shot replicas of this gun, i thot. Me bad shot laid gun apon forearm to steady aim.. School nurse helped clean as got blood poison from powder burn. i visited bars site few years back for college reunion . ...
Nothing but speculation..I was falling asleep listening to a boring story teller
Maybe the facts presented are not quite accurate, Ok not only maybe, they are wrong.
Hustle
I’ll give you $500