It's funny that she talks about unconscious bias while displaying overt and direct bias. The hypocrisy is so thick you could touch it. Her lack of self awareness is staggering.
Yes, had he made fun of her voice, all hell would have been made. Had I been him I would have brought it to her attention how that could have been considered derogatory but yet, as always those kinds always think they are right but the first to complain about racism
I think you're taking her words out of context. She was not giving a blanket statement that all bias is wrong; she was specifically talking about unconscious bias as it pertains to race. Particularly, she was saying that white people tend to have an unconscious bias towards other white people (and against black people). I, like you, also do not think what she said is true, but I have a problem with your mischaracterization of her argument. You need to learn what she is saying before you throw around words like "hypocrisy". (Please understand that I am not trying to belittle you in any way; I am only saying this to help you not to make a mistake like this again.)
But... it isn't unconcious. I've seen people call Ben a member of the Alt Right. She is just riding a wave or a bandwagon if you will... and Ben disagrees with that waves narrative and therefore, to her consciously Ben is a man a with low voice whose every word is some form of mansplaining, racist narrative that is wrong because he is a white male.
You could say the same of the right, really. Accuse foreigners of invading your land and land taking your freedoms, then demand your armies invade other countries and destroy their governments.
@@jeramahia123 You may have some RINOs doing that, but I haven't experienced any of the legitimate Right constituency making those claims. Be carful not to too place too many of your MSM info eggs into your basket (i.e. CNN drone and drool). They clearly have a steering agenda.
Did you hear the way she said “Whites”? Then has the nerve to pose a question about OTHER peoples racism. Girl, look in the mirror a little more often. 🤨
I don’t think she was trying to be racist I believe that was the language barrier her being African decent raised in Britain terms are way different for us in America but I do agree she was most definitely on another agenda with the mocking him and I as a African American man honestly think he spoke very well and answered those questions better then anyone could
@Alpha Sancho I respect your thoughts on the matter but I respectfully disagree but then again neither of us know her but racist is used so loosely in this era I for 1 believe someone of anyone race including his own could have posed the same question and in that regard would it still be racist ? Or would you then say they are because he’s Jewish ? I think the term would be bias he’s a very intelligent man and people who aren’t as smart or disagree with him will be filled with some sort of anger or feeling that goes for anyone who can’t control those feelings and questions in a social or any setting
@Alpha Sancho I respect you’re views again but history tells a different story there were entrances and exits and separate places for people of different races also there’s division there among what you’re saying is white ? Because again facts are Irish, Russian,English, or whatever can acknowledge differences and too people from Certain groups had certain privileges ask your grandparents
@@CaliWaveno that is a cop out. She is a blatant racist and she knows it. The problem is these people are being taught that it’s Impossible to be racist towards Whites while being complete racist
member, leftist fancy themselves as the shining example of perfection and holiness. They really think they are the model to follow . Its quite a high opinion of themselves. And to question them is a show of what a racist, bigot, phobic hater you are. It is arrogance to the 9th degree.
her bias against shapiro? based on his previous statements and political positions? thats not the same as a bias against someone because of something as insignificant as their skin color obviously the whole point against racism is it is not based on content of character like MLK said the fact that you seem to think those biases are the same and have so many likes on your comment concerns me
These poor college kids get all amped up when they find out he's coming, spend weeks coming up with a question they believe will stump him, and..........wa, wa, wa.......everytime.
He was wrong, just bc you accept his explanation doesn't make it correct. Ghost hunting? That's false. I don't see this guy standing up to racism, as he claims he would, when it is clear that it exists.
@Kevin N well you may have to explain it slowly...First of all "racism" in its broadest term comes from all sides, no one doesn't occasionally prejudge people, it is human nature...if you aren't getting the job you want, look within and look to God, it may not be in God's plan and if you are on the right path, it will happen, you have to make things happen for yourself, Part of growing up is understanding this and stop being a pain in the butt
@@phyllisbarr4766 I recommend you be careful the burden you put on God. Especially in a debate with me. I'll have you questioning your beliefs before the day is out. On top of it, it seems you don't even understand your beliefs. Is it God's plan or is it mans will? Based on your comment you're not sure. Keep it moving
Liberals or leftists boast about their education compared to conservatives, but it's over bullshit that's not even true and they seemingly lack common sense compared to conservatives. They make the rules up as they go on base things on a whim that it's evil. Don't believe me? Try arguing with one. The self proclaimed "centrists" are some of the most left leaning and self righteous I've seen.
@Fuck RUclips Agree. They are the Most Vicious Group even in our own family they will rip your head off ! I don’t even care anymore I just listen to their rage & walk away or hang up. Not worth my time they’ll understand soon enough. If not they’ll live in their own hell.
"interesting" is code for "You are wrong sit down and shut up and listen to me waffle on and on with word salad because I am a virtue signalling twat. So there!"
@@Baman21 Science is not an entity to be obeyed or worshiped. It is a process of study to find ideas to be tested, and re tested, and re tested. Through science discoveries are made and minds are changed, then wait 10 years we find out we were wrong and minds are changed again. Science is a very fluid and dynamic learning process. What we "prove" today will most likely be "disproven" in less than a generation and vise versa. Furthermore, have you taken a single psychology class? Nobody agrees, they are always disproving each others ideas. This didn't start out as a lecture but I am so tired of people like you and in the media talking about "science" when you probably failed your highly indoctrinated public version in high school.
@@Baman21 Psychology is a very subjective science and you being in the "medical field" is vague at best. But since you are so well versed in the study of the mind, tell me. What psychologists theory's have stood the test of time? Freud, Carl Jung?
How condescending is the girl? "You can take a moment and collect your thoughts because my question was so amazingly structured and thought through" Pipe down love
Whatever I've seen from Shapiro so far he is always respectful when he's engaged in conversations. So I don't see any need to be condescending towards him or doing stupid impressions.
Ben is light years ahead of everyone else! He doesn’t ramble, doesn’t get flustered, and always gives a clear and concise answer to questions. Too bad our president isn’t anywhere near a third as cognitive.
Brilliantly put! This is what I feel is really going on. Just like the white fragility lady Diangelo, people who are racist will point out the racism in others so they do not feel so bad about their own issues. One of those "i'm not racist, but you are for agreeing with me" kind of things.
She is trying to sound so intelligent that she is blinded by her own intolerance of others. Ppl pointing their finger at others have 3 pointing back at themselves.
🤣 1) She didn't point at him - she was just using her finger to mark points of emphasis (something that people do all the time, and is no big deal - step over it, snowflake). 2) That you would get triggered over something so trivial is absolutely pathetic, imo. Grow up, kid.
@@ralphdavidson9542 😁🤔my "unconscious" bias observation is that she was ACTUALLY giving Shapiro subconsciously MORE respect, by using a more Bass in her vocal condescension, than say, the "whiny little boy" stereotype vocal inflection. But perhaps I'm overthinking.....
This is basically people of color assuming that another group of people all think the same based on the color of their skin. That is the exact definition of racism. "Unconscious bias" is a racist phrase.
Actually. Just assuming that all people of a group you categorise them to be in to have the same bias and thoughts is illogical pre-judgement aka prejudice. She's prejudiced CONSCIOUSLY as well as unconsciously biased and let's face it racist. And that hair. IS cultural appropriation.
People of color is an anti-white racial slur. Know that. You mean black. The people of color term is seen by many as an anti-white American racial slur that dehumanizes, separates and segregates white people, which is of course for many on the Left is the intention. It implies that all non-white races are together and united against the commonly unpopular white folk and that white people are different, strange and not at all like the rest of us.
Sadly western countries as a whole have celebrated victim hood status and now are dealing with an entire generation of “oppressed” victims. America is probably the most obvious but even in Brazil and Italy you hear these things now
This is normal for human beings: to try to get some privilege for doing absolutely nothing. They are either too lazy to work or too stupid to educate themselves and be able to provide valuable well payed service. This way they bring race, sex, whatever else empty as their life arguments to obtain a privilege to be payed for nothing.
Because it is easy money to play victimhood over race or gender etc. If the culture rewards “being a victim” you will have millions of them. Ironically those self-proclaimed victims will victimise everyone standing in their way.
I also think it’s very troubling that she pretty much implied racial or indeed any unconscious biases are unique to white people. That’s the root cause of the flaw in her argument. Unconscious biases are present in all of us. So it’s really a non- starter to pose it as a white people doing it to black people thing. 🤦🏾♀️
You just beautifully articulated that exact racism that has so much purchasing power in the US that millions of "white" people have to deal with constantly. Thank you.
From my life experiences, which I'm sure is very common to any non-black American, is that White people are not the biggest group of racist per racial group in America. Far from it in fact.
Indeed. Any negative comment about a group of people based on their skin color is racist, so she's proving she's (currently) racist against white people.
She's from North England/Midlands I think? This is not the Queen's English but still posh I guess. Edit: Based on the comments and listening to her accent again,I have come to the conclusion that she is not British at all, she is likely an American putting on a fake Queen's English accent. It is a pretty good fake but it is mixed with a bit of dialects from all over England which is super weird and hence why everyone in the comments cannot agree where she is from which is unusual. Thus, I'm 95% sure this is a made up accent and she's American.
KKK was liberals the union was for slave the south was actually against it cheap labor put them all in containers let China know we got child workers and adult slaves ready for the cargo ships orders start at 1.5 million per container
Ah yes, the “thought police”. I read about them in a book once, never thought I would see one in person. The world they live in is not one anyone should want.
“Ok, so that’s a really interesting response” roughly translates to “fuck, I’m asking nonsense questions about a nonsense subject to someone who is intellectually vastly superior to me, I’m out of my depth and everyone else here realised this way before I did”
@@landen99 Ben is fast when it comes to formulating logic and there is very little if any logic from the opposing side. Hence, why Ben shuts them down right away. Notice when she began to lose the argument she resorted to aggression. Thats how children act.
It doesn’t destroy her argument... the message is not the same as the messenger. They are, generally speaking, mutually exclusive. Someone being an asshole can still make a good point. That being said, she did belittle herself and, with his refusal to take offense or to retort in kind, just made him look that much better in contrast.
@@craigraboteau7024 It really does. You can not argue against bias but use mockery by mimicking the person opposite you without showing your own bias against that person.
You can help people change, it happens in medical professions etc. all the time, thing is you need them allowing you to help, you can not shove this kind of help down someone's throat. So in order for her to 'help' me, she first needs to convince me i need her help. I'll drop a little understatement here: so far she's found lacking any and all convincing powers.
Guaranteed that she didn't even bother to listen to his answer, much less ponder it. She just took the microphone so she could wow everyone with her shitty impression.
@@marcellusb5942 Trotting out her attempt of running a false narrative with the attendant false conclusions to trap Shapiro, who promptly deflated her racist posit-
@Focus Entertainment yes actually she did. Watch the video again. She totally put up her finger as a sign for him to ‘hold off’ on talking so she could better explain herself. lol! The coward deleted his comment 🤣
It’s amazing to see her anger towards Ben yet he’s not malicious towards her. Who has the bias?!? While mocking him for coming out to speak to everyone.
Oh, that gave me joy. I generally loathe Shapiro's propensity for semantic traps as a substitute for a valid rebuttal, but her indignation was on full display in her face.
Her anger? Angry sjw poc trope playing on your mind? I did not see any anger from either of them, I guess your concious bias led you to that conclusion? It's amazing they you viewed an intellectual debate were no body raised their voice, smiles from both participants and some how this in your mind equates to her anger? It's quite ironic considering the topic in question😂🤣😂🤣
@@thenet3d Guess you missed the point where she went on the defensive when and employed a mocking tone when he wouldn't validate her unsubstantiated claims?
I'd either be dead, or a lot of other people would be. Take your pick. Granted, acknowledging that we don't act on every thought also defeats the claim of manipulation through social media. Unless we take into account that most people don't actively control their behavior.
"You can take a minute to recollect your thoughts" The smugness these individuals bring to the table show you they've never had their ideas confronted before. They think their position is unbeatable.
Her mocking him showed her level of insecurity and ignorance. She knew she had already lost the argument and her questions were bogus. That is why she had to mock him it shows a level of ignorance above all she destroyed herself with this argument well done woman well done
peace minus: She did that because she's a toddler. It's astounding that she didn't understand that people had thoughts that they didn't act on all the time, and actually needed an example of one - more toddler behaviour (apologies toddlers). Employee to boss; You're an A hole. Boss; Don't call me that. Employee; Can I think it? Boss; Of course, I can't stop you thinking anything. Employee; OK, then I think you're an A hole.
She assumes that others have unconscious bias and Ben explains you can’t prove it and she stays stuck on her flawed concept anyway. People are so stubborn to the point of absurdity.
I do the same thing she does. Where did she get her view that others have unconscious bias? Her group told her, or a Professor she admires, or some book/study/television program she enjoyed. The point is, she accepts it for different reasons and doesn't do the research necessary to make sure it's factual. Who has the time? I'm guilty of the same thing she is, I've picked up nuggets of information along the way that made sense so I filed them under "truth" without making sure they really were the truth. And if someone confronts my view with the actual truth it better be a boatload of examples because it's really hard to change someones mind. It's just the way people are.
I really believe that's in part of what they are trying to accomplish through the media. Keep telling people something that they are NOT until it manifests outward & really does happen, obviously because We are only Human and People can only take so much. Then they can claim, I TOLD YOU SO. But in all Reality, those individuals that claim "white privilege" & "Racism" are the ones who are really Racist against Straight, White, Christian Americans. We all know what's really going on. We just need MORE Leaders not afraid to speak the truth and stand up for ALL Peoples. We need to organize like they do but Lawfully against this BS that will divide and destroy us ALL. I really do get what you said!
I agree with both of your points. Also, I believe more people are finding ways to keep to themselves outside the people they already know. I doubt many of the younger generation are aware of the Golden Rule. That rule seems to be lost in the translation today where people are now looking towards cultural appropriation rather than overall acceptance which is turning people universally into racists. They're just too stupid to see that because they all want to remain in their own echo chambers and point the finger and cancel anyone that might have a different opinion.
Sorry ... both, gently consider this ... *‼️They are the 666. Literally.* *In fact, persecution of ALL dissent* to the Marxist rule revealing itself is going to continue. It will expand to include the entire country. *Anyone who refuses the mark of the beast will not be allowed to buy and sell”.* The mark of the beast is NOT a chip. It simply means not resisting their rule. Prophecy being fulfilled. Trust and obey Jesus as best you can. We are in the tribs now. If you have any questions please ask. There’s a lot more to tell. But you can ask even just one little question if you prefer. This is my testimony. Praise God. Jesus is Lord. God bless you. ✝️💙🙂
Sad but true, the government controls the media and they want us to be fighting amongst ourselves while they crash our economy and Implement ways to enslave us. It's an old term that the government loves to push on its citizens called tribalism. When all the Indians are fighting against themselves the big bad government comes in and takes all their stuff.
Ah yes but she's a woman ya misogynist!!!1111!! Apparently. Yep, grinds my gears too that the likes of her can get away with anything that comes out of their mouths but if you hold her to her words then we are the bullies.
They do not occupy any moral high ground. They and their media allies only say that they do. In order to occupy a moral position, you must have consistent moral principles. I defy, anyone to show me where do the leftists in society has any?
A well spoken man who does not address the research directly, but dismisses it out of hand can fool many. If one does not hire those of color who have the same resume as a white person, then that bias is behavioral, Ben.
People who ask a question to someone they already disagree with can't give the attention or have the patience to listen to the response - since they already decided they didn't agree from the start. Hmm, well, isn't that unconscious bias right there? How ironic she did that. .
I was surprised when she thought he couldn't think of any examples of when someone might think something but not do it. A dozen examples popped into my mind within 5 seconds, and in 30 seconds I could have listed dozens more. She thought her brain was working, but it wasn't.
@@rowanaforrest9792 exactly. and not just because she is female, in terms of females more often acting without thinking, but more specifically young people acting without really thinking, and even even more specifically, millenials who actively manage to delude themselves into not even being willing to accept they are responsible for their actions, whether pre-thought or not. which is the insane double standard, where SJWs who don't believe in any of their own personal responsibility or agency, then expecting everyone else to have hyper responsibility over things they really can't (like unconcious bias...)
Going around with a level of narcissism that allows you to tell yourself that you somehow preemptively have the inside track on other people’s thoughts and future actions is definitely a “you” problem
Thoughts that cross your mind are extremely rare to be acted upon. Every person that has walked the planet has had thousands of " bad" thoughts in their life. Luckily as Ben says we judge people on their actions and not their thoughts.
Exactly. Every person on earth has thoughts that, if they acted on them, would land them in prison for the rest of their lives, yet 99.9% never act on those thoughts.
Unconscious bias does exist and can be measured but not in static terms only in dynamic situations which is what he is probably referring to as being difficult to measure. To say it doesn't exist as a psychological phenomenon is stretching the boundaries of truth but to say it doesn't exist in the way it is being promulgated by overly leftist societies is most likely very much in line with the truth. Ironically all this has very little to do with race, colour or appearance, the human subconscious can get over these things very quickly. They are a means of identification but without preconceived notions on how to interpret them place no barrier on how much of a connection you can have with a person. Instead it has much more to do with the lack of interaction during childhood due to the societal boundaries, perceptions and the fears handed down by parents. Some cultures are progressing faster than others but one trend is clear in all cases, that the only real change occurs with changing generations. Hence must be careful to not screw up our children any more than we already are. Anything that promotes lack of interaction between children due to hatred or pride must be eliminated even if this goes against political correctness.
I’ve always been a pretty moderate person, women like this are why I have never wanted to lean left. The smugness, the dismissivemess, the absolute self assured Stare after every question like he needs to explain himself..it’s so obnoxious
So true, i did that till i reached 40 and it kind of hit me like a ton of bricks and slapped me out of my stupidity. We have to realise that it's not other people standing in our way but what are we actually doing to better our lives???
@sayitlikeitis I always try be careful not to put the words "most" or "some" or "all" before making statements like that because we really don't know how most people think on every subject. It honestly just makes the commenter look ignorant.
The place I recently worked shall remain nameless, A black woman bullied most of the office staff, one had left previously and the other one was going to, she was in front of HR for the fourth time because of her bullying behaviour and they still did not sack her and she was terrible at her job and cost the company thousands.. Go figure....
my subconscious bias is telling me that she had a bone to pick with him for his opinions, and wanted to look smart for her tribe while attempting to corner ben with moot points about things that arent real.
Subconscious bias is a much better term and one that really exists and can be measured in dynamic situations. The only unfortunate thing is you cannot change subconscious bias in adults. If you are punished as a child for playing with a classmate of a certain race then you will grow up to have a subconscious bias towards that race and it will be very nearly impossible to change. The best you could hope for is to not pass it down to your own children.
If Ben would have done a British accent in response, she would have called him a racist. Yes, I realize that does not make sense, but it would have happened.
They know racism doesn’t exist on a large scale so they created the term because people immediately know if they are consciously racist. And most people aren’t so everybody will immediately deny it. So they are trying to trick people that they are unconsciously racist because if you are unconscious you can’t prove it. It’s just a way for them to migrate the fact racism doesn’t exist on any large scale and they know people believe everything they are told so they know some people will believe it. I’m a trauma surgeon so I just happen to know a thing or two about being people being unconscious. I’ve cut on hundreds of people and they have no memory of it. Normally you would say subconsciously but you can think back and see if you were subconsciously racist. Unconscious you can’t prove at all.
I think the term self control isn't proper 🤔... They want to stop a train of thoughts where you have no control over it... It's not wanting a slice of cake because it smells delicious but you have to control yourself because you have to loose weight 😜
Subconscious bias is a much better term and one that really exists and can be measured in dynamic situations. Classic example is when a store clerk greets people differently based on their ethnicity. Caucasian: gets the full smile. Asian looking: partial smile. African features: stone face. African features and wearing a hoodie: nervous grin. Any intelligent person living in any major city has witnessed this regardless whether they choose to acknowledge it or not. The unfortunate thing is you cannot change subconscious bias in adults. For example if as a child your parents would punish you for playing with a classmate of a certain race then you will grow up to have a subconscious bias towards that specific race. This has very little to do with differences in appearance. For example some parts of France even today are well known to treat the caucasian German tourists very differently than everyone else (although you wouldn't say they was much physical difference between them). A second unfortunate fact is that it is near impossible to change in adulthood. The best you could hope for is to not pass it down to your own children.
@@chrisdeep8417 You are equating thoughts with behavior. Did you watch this video? Ben explained it, but he talks too fast. I can take a stab at it- For example, I am an LSU alumn and yuge football fan. Would I hire a black Auburn fan over a white Alabama fan? My knee-jerk answer is ABSOLUTELY- not because the Auburn fan and I share common ground, but because I have a VERY MUCH CONSCIOUS bias (a thought) against Alabama. However, in the end, I would review the resumes carefully, then hire the more qualified candidate (a behavior). The point is the former does NOT always govern the latter - especially, for people with a lick of sense, where common ground transcends race every time. IF this "unconscious/subconscious bias" even exists, how can it be proven? By definition, it can't. Racial bias exists, sure, but it's very much a conscious thought. I suspect someone has taken the phenomenon of "in-group preference" and re-labled it just to promote division. More communist pseudo-academia (that brown, greasy finger paint of the left)
@@lsu1992 There are crucial holes in your argument and it seems to come from a misunderstanding about psychological processes. In your first example, your conscience won over your team bias because you wanted to be fair. It means your bias was not really threatened enough to go against your principles. Moreover, your bias manifested itself in thought and desire but never realized in external action. A bias has to do with something that you value greatly, because of this it must have a psychological imprint, as a learned reaction. You mentioned that racial bias is conscious bias? This cannot be, you are making things up. If racial bias is not in the unconscious or subconscious, then it doesn't exist at all because it will have no psychological root. Conscious bias is actually the manifested learned reaction either in thought or in external action.
@@philipsdeb I have to because though I think I'm mostly harmless the wokies know the infinite improbability that I have a heart of gold but rather the mouse sized mind of "Man" and it's irreparably dented by terillions of evil thoughts.
You can tell the first thought that Ben had was, "Yeah, I haven't walked down there and smacked the shit out of you". But he thought to change it around.
If you're manic depressive like me you can extend that by 1000° expansively. Now there's a real treat trying to process 657.30 frames per parsec as they flash through your mind. Having fUN N O W ! !
Thx BShapiro 💯🙏🏼 this women’s question is slanting racism upon white people solely upon unconscious bias. And then to make this more appalling, draw the correlation between a human psychological phenomenon to “white privilege” being proven by this psychological phenomenon.
This doesn't compute well at all with the "participation trophied millennials and centennials." They just simply want things to happen the way they want it (which usually is based on ignorance), but they don't want to do anything to achieve it. "No action talk only" virtue signaling generations.
He hit that one out of the park. Ben's super power is that he can cut through the BS, rephrase the question in a way that make sense, and then deal with it. Just awesome. Don't ever stop!
It was the tell that she's full of crap, you don't get to throw crap against the wall and then make everyone work off the premise that what you just said is true. She can state her opinion and debate if it's valid
@@tnoble You're missing the point. Unconscious bias is a real thing. Studies have shown this. It isn't up for debate. She adapted her question from "if this is true..." to "given that this is true..." to make that clear and prevent Ben from being able to use a dismissive response. I don't agree with Shapiro on a lot of issues but I think he's right here. Unconscious bias is real but given it's unconscious nature there isn't really much we can do about it, unless you want to get into dystopian thought policing.
Right? I mean. I would start right off by telling her that its not "GIVEN" to be true. That is the whole point of a debate isnt it? Young ppl are so stupid it actually makes me sick. lol Then is see some smart ones and think "Oh thank God."
That's because you agree with him. There are a lot of people that despise Shapiro because they disagree with his views. We would be better off as a species if we could put a damper on emotions and approach difficult topics with nothing but logic and reasoning. Viewpoints and opinions shift constantly but the truth is always true no matter how difficult that is to accept.
@@dracomaifoy7377 Very fair points, but I would argue that those people have not listened to him and given him a chance. I used to hate him based on social media groupthink and partisan hacks in the mainstream, but once I finally listened to a couple of his lectures, I realized that I had been severely misled. I disagree with him sometimes, but his logic is always airtight. Any smart person can at very least respect him for that.
It's closer than you think. Currently, from what I've read, there is this push to basically merge man and machine -- as here, AI. What they want to do is enable things like, you think about the lights in your house when you walk in, your Alexa, or some other AI machine, "hears" these thoughts electronically, flips on your lights via WiFi. The problem is, if you can send signals out, you can receive signals as well -- which means that someone, somewhere, would literally be monitoring your thoughts, which, I believe, will lead to the idea of the Thought Police being real.
Because they don't believe they are unqualified. It's extremely difficult to find people who honestly believe they're merely average or even below average. Everyone wants to believe they're above average in any category.
Thought police are a very bad idea. One of the things that makes humans better over time is the ability to recognize the thoughts in their heads and determine if they are going to act on them or reject them. Unconscious bias sets a dangerous precedent. Can you see the court case? Lawyer: "The defendent murdered the victim due to unconscious bias." That would never fly. The conscious mind overrides the unconscious mind all the time.
And that's exactly what all this "unconscious bias" BS is all about - an attempt by the thought police to find another back door to sneak into your life since all the ones they've been trying since the early 90's didn't work. No intelligent person is falling for their fallacy of false assumption BS.
@Krimsen King Apologies for my delay in responding to you. I have been researching the current widespread and ongoing human rights violations in China and determining how best to bring them to light so the victims will be helped. That said, I am unclear on your position/questions. Is it your position that this particular video was a discussion of unconscious bias on the part of police that results in violence towards people of color? I believe unconscious bias may have been brought up in court before, though I have no evidence of such. I can see how it could be brought up as a means of painting a character portrait of a person, but I don't think it would ever fly, even in that usage. To paraphrase Ben Shapiro, people cannot read minds. That being true, we cannot base anything factual on what may or may not happen in a person's unconscious or conscious thought process. To restate my position, conscious thought continually overrides unconscious thought. An idea MAY potentially begin in an unconscious fashion, but once it reaches the conscious mind, it is evaluated by the thinker and decisions of action or inaction are made about it. As an example, a person may reach for a certain cereal box in the morning out of habit, what some might refer to as unconscious bias, then realize that it's Saturday and they have time to make pancakes and eggs, which they would rather eat. What began as an "unconscious bias," if you will, is reevaluated and discarded in favor of something that is chosen by the conscious mind. I do not wish to make assumptions about your position, as that won't help any of us understand each other better. If I have misunderstood your point, please correct me and elaborate on your perspective.
That woman literally didn’t understand the answer. Ben’s response is not novel. Jordan Peterson says the exact same thing! Her follow up behavior is ridiculous ... unless she didn’t understand the answer.
She definitely didn’t understand the answer. Nor was she prepared to listen with an open mind. The root of this behaviour is pride and arrogance.....which has been seeded and stoked by academia along with their Marxist ideology woven into the education system. She will have to go through some hard knocks before she begins to ask questions, instead of regurgitating the marxist garbage. I feel really sorry for this and the past generation because they’ve been effectively brainwashed, plus not taught how to think critically. Other factors are at play......
You’d respect it if it was actually just asking a question. But it’s the smug attitude/ thinking she’s smart because of her accent / cocky impression that makes her a chump and pathetic
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She wasn’t even listening. She was just talking.
That's the modern leftist..good little robot..my view is valid yours is trash.
@Papa Greengo I know how to have a discussion 💁🏽♀️
It truly is amazing how some stop their brains from functioning when confronted with uncomfortable truth.
BOOM SHEMSH
@@billmackinaw9254 Not just "leftists", but collectivists, which can include "rightists".
It's funny that she talks about unconscious bias while displaying overt and direct bias.
The hypocrisy is so thick you could touch it. Her lack of self awareness is staggering.
Yes, had he made fun of her voice, all hell would have been made. Had I been him I would have brought it to her attention how that could have been considered derogatory but yet, as always those kinds always think they are right but the first to complain about racism
Amen
If leftists had self-awareness, they'd cease being leftists. Lies are the soil in which progressivism grows.
in other words she's the personification of a modern liberal.
I think you're taking her words out of context. She was not giving a blanket statement that all bias is wrong; she was specifically talking about unconscious bias as it pertains to race. Particularly, she was saying that white people tend to have an unconscious bias towards other white people (and against black people). I, like you, also do not think what she said is true, but I have a problem with your mischaracterization of her argument. You need to learn what she is saying before you throw around words like "hypocrisy".
(Please understand that I am not trying to belittle you in any way; I am only saying this to help you not to make a mistake like this again.)
I would like to see how this woman would have reacted to being mocked like she mocked Ben??? I think she needs to own up to her own “unconscious bias”
Good thought... let's invite her back and explore her unconscious biases emerging as Ben mocks her. That would be fun for my conscious biases!
These types of comments get a lot more traction when they don't include question marks at the end of a statement. That is pretty annoying.
Well ben did mention her voice is deeper than his, 😁😄😂
@@coreyg7364 Uh-oh! GrAmeR Nazi spoted!?! Gues wat, nobody gives a shit but you...have fun with those errors though if it triggers your OCD.
But... it isn't unconcious. I've seen people call Ben a member of the Alt Right. She is just riding a wave or a bandwagon if you will... and Ben disagrees with that waves narrative and therefore, to her consciously Ben is a man a with low voice whose every word is some form of mansplaining, racist narrative that is wrong because he is a white male.
She is the perfect example of the Left. Accuse others of that which you do yourself... consciously or unconsciously...
You could say the same of the right, really. Accuse foreigners of invading your land and land taking your freedoms, then demand your armies invade other countries and destroy their governments.
@@jeramahia123 You may have some RINOs doing that, but I haven't experienced any of the legitimate Right constituency making those claims. Be carful not to too place too many of your MSM info eggs into your basket (i.e. CNN drone and drool). They clearly have a steering agenda.
Did you hear the way she said “Whites”? Then has the nerve to pose a question about OTHER peoples racism. Girl, look in the mirror a little more often. 🤨
I don’t think she was trying to be racist I believe that was the language barrier her being African decent raised in Britain terms are way different for us in America but I do agree she was most definitely on another agenda with the mocking him and I as a African American man honestly think he spoke very well and answered those questions better then anyone could
@Alpha Sancho I respect your thoughts on the matter but I respectfully disagree but then again neither of us know her but racist is used so loosely in this era I for 1 believe someone of anyone race including his own could have posed the same question and in that regard would it still be racist ? Or would you then say they are because he’s Jewish ? I think the term would be bias he’s a very intelligent man and people who aren’t as smart or disagree with him will be filled with some sort of anger or feeling that goes for anyone who can’t control those feelings and questions in a social or any setting
@Alpha Sancho I respect you’re views again but history tells a different story there were entrances and exits and separate places for people of different races also there’s division there among what you’re saying is white ? Because again facts are Irish, Russian,English, or whatever can acknowledge differences and too people from
Certain groups had certain privileges ask your grandparents
It's her unconscious bias.
@@CaliWaveno that is a cop out. She is a blatant racist and she knows it. The problem is these people are being taught that it’s Impossible to be racist towards Whites while being complete racist
He should have asked her what she's doing about HER unconscious bias.
member, leftist fancy themselves as the shining example of perfection and holiness.
They really think they are the model to follow . Its quite a high opinion of themselves. And to question them is a show of what a racist, bigot, phobic hater you are. It is arrogance to the 9th degree.
@@yoyo762 true, that's why they're dangerous.
her bias against shapiro? based on his previous statements and political positions? thats not the same as a bias against someone because of something as insignificant as their skin color obviously the whole point against racism is it is not based on content of character like MLK said the fact that you seem to think those biases are the same and have so many likes on your comment concerns me
@@yoyo762 what makes you assume this lady is a “leftist”?
@@yeahyeah5609 cause she’s banging on about white privilege. A typical leftist cliche.
She asking about bias when she herself is a prime example of it.
Hers is called "concious bias" lol
Typical white privilege response.
@@Yulowirri For calling out hypocrisy?
@@Yulowirri had to to counteract her black privilege I am sure. 🤔🤪🤣🤣
@Sappho Nymph being highly intelligent is a privillage , but being intelligent doesnt make u bad .What matters is what u do with it.
This woman literally let 'Minority Report' go to her head.
These poor college kids get all amped up when they find out he's coming, spend weeks coming up with a question they believe will stump him, and..........wa, wa, wa.......everytime.
He was wrong, just bc you accept his explanation doesn't make it correct. Ghost hunting? That's false. I don't see this guy standing up to racism, as he claims he would, when it is clear that it exists.
@Kevin N well you may have to explain it slowly...First of all "racism" in its broadest term comes from all sides, no one doesn't occasionally prejudge people, it is human nature...if you aren't getting the job you want, look within and look to God, it may not be in God's plan and if you are on the right path, it will happen, you have to make things happen for yourself, Part of growing up is understanding this and stop being a pain in the butt
@@marcellusb5942 So you are admitting to a feeling and not fact? How do you know what ANYONE WILL do?
@Kevin N please explain it to me Kevin. I like to see idiots try
@@phyllisbarr4766 I recommend you be careful the burden you put on God. Especially in a debate with me. I'll have you questioning your beliefs before the day is out. On top of it, it seems you don't even understand your beliefs. Is it God's plan or is it mans will? Based on your comment you're not sure. Keep it moving
It’s amazing that Shapiro is considered “controversial” by some. What he talks about is basic common sense. I guess many people lack this.
Common sense is controversial because it is rare amongst humans.
👍
Liberals or leftists boast about their education compared to conservatives, but it's over bullshit that's not even true and they seemingly lack common sense compared to conservatives. They make the rules up as they go on base things on a whim that it's evil. Don't believe me? Try arguing with one. The self proclaimed "centrists" are some of the most left leaning and self righteous I've seen.
I find them to be constantly One Up on One another ! B o r i n g 🤮
@Fuck RUclips Agree. They are the Most Vicious Group even in our own family they will rip your head off ! I don’t even care anymore I just listen to their rage & walk away or hang up. Not worth my time they’ll understand soon enough. If not they’ll live in their own hell.
She sounds like she’s just looking for something to claim the racist card
@Big Balls Who’s them?
@@soleildujour4228 who ya think ,dork
@Kyle Lawns and brought no inventions to America
@Captain Bastard money in it for them, why stop
@@soleildujour4228 I don’t know?, why don’t you tell us who “them” is?
We’re all wondering.
Ben Shapiro isn’t driven by emotions. He’s driven by facts and knowledge. Love this guy!
He's actually "driven" by good debating tactics. He uses a lot of common sense and shallow pseudo research.
Oh yeah 👍
Absolutely dam right
If he's so "driven by facts", explain why he beLIEves in judiasm? 🤔
UNLESS, you're taking about Isreal's war crimes, then he gets Big mad and butt hurt.
She 100% didn't listen to anything he said in reply. And her saying " that is a really interesting response " was disingenuous
Because he didn't really say anything close to smart. He just spews 100 words per second to trample you, uts called gish galloping!
"interesting" is code for "You are wrong sit down and shut up and listen to me waffle on and on with word salad because I am a virtue signalling twat. So there!"
@@dominicsisinni75 these people that follow ben shapiro are idiots, you cant reason with them. They are just sheep's.
@@obeb787 no that’s the woke. Word soup springs to mind.
@Alien Biden when did I say that? Are you just making stuff up just because you can't articulate a proper argument?
I do have a conscious bias against anyone advocating for a thought police.
sounds biased
People need to read Orwell. 1984
@@Baman21 Science is not an entity to be obeyed or worshiped. It is a process of study to find ideas to be tested, and re tested, and re tested. Through science discoveries are made and minds are changed, then wait 10 years we find out we were wrong and minds are changed again. Science is a very fluid and dynamic learning process. What we "prove" today will most likely be "disproven" in less than a generation and vise versa. Furthermore, have you taken a single psychology class? Nobody agrees, they are always disproving each others ideas. This didn't start out as a lecture but I am so tired of people like you and in the media talking about "science" when you probably failed your highly indoctrinated public version in high school.
@@Baman21 Psychology is a very subjective science and you being in the "medical field" is vague at best. But since you are so well versed in the study of the mind, tell me. What psychologists theory's have stood the test of time? Freud, Carl Jung?
How condescending is the girl? "You can take a moment and collect your thoughts because my question was so amazingly structured and thought through"
Pipe down love
Haha he didnt even hear it hell i barely did
She‘s one of those „powerful women“...
She totally views herself as an intellectual based on her responses, but her clear lack of critical thought shines through to everyone.
😂😂😂
Whatever I've seen from Shapiro so far he is always respectful when he's engaged in conversations. So I don't see any need to be condescending towards him or doing stupid impressions.
Ben is light years ahead of everyone else! He doesn’t ramble, doesn’t get flustered, and always gives a clear and concise answer to questions. Too bad our president isn’t anywhere near a third as cognitive.
People like her are the problem. Not seeking truth...simply seeking validation for her own bias.
Perfectly put
Brilliantly put! This is what I feel is really going on. Just like the white fragility lady Diangelo, people who are racist will point out the racism in others so they do not feel so bad about their own issues. One of those "i'm not racist, but you are for agreeing with me" kind of things.
Numpty nonsense -
Good thing she wasn't asking questions of someone with opposing views........
Exactly
She is trying to sound so intelligent that she is blinded by her own intolerance of others. Ppl pointing their finger at others have 3 pointing back at themselves.
🤣 1) She didn't point at him - she was just using her finger to mark points of emphasis (something that people do all the time, and is no big deal - step over it, snowflake). 2) That you would get triggered over something so trivial is absolutely pathetic, imo. Grow up, kid.
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smh...
He was typing figuratively, and snowflakes are not Conservative.
@@sunnyjim1355 you don't know what figurative speak is, don't you?
@@sunnyjim1355 dam dude u that dense
@@sunnyjim1355 That's exactly what my mama taught me whenever I blamed one of my siblings for something I did.
Love the impression. If he did that to her imagine the indignation she would feign.
It wouldn’t be feigned. It’d be claws out hellcat, methinks!
Yeah, that's my main observation here. She did a moronic voice, but its apparently OK when its black on white.
@@ralphdavidson9542 😁🤔my "unconscious" bias observation is that she was ACTUALLY giving Shapiro subconsciously MORE respect, by using a more Bass in her vocal condescension, than say, the "whiny little boy" stereotype vocal inflection. But perhaps I'm overthinking.....
@@ralphdavidson9542 and when it's women over men.
As she tries to mock how he speaks. isn't that conscious bias on her ?
This is basically people of color assuming that another group of people all think the same based on the color of their skin. That is the exact definition of racism. "Unconscious bias" is a racist phrase.
Actually. Just assuming that all people of a group you categorise them to be in to have the same bias and thoughts is illogical pre-judgement aka prejudice.
She's prejudiced CONSCIOUSLY as well as unconsciously biased and let's face it racist.
And that hair. IS cultural appropriation.
People of color is an anti-white racial slur. Know that. You mean black. The people of color term is seen by many as an anti-white American racial slur that dehumanizes, separates and segregates white people, which is of course for many on the Left is the intention. It implies that all non-white races are together and united against the commonly unpopular white folk and that white people are different, strange and not at all like the rest of us.
Racism is a white invention, a white problem and white's need to acknowledge and resolve it - quickly! It's nothing to do with anyone else 🎖
@@superyachtchef racism in all cultures.... Blacks even make fun of other blacks for being too black or not dark enough!
They redefined racism 10 years ago to only apply to whites.
I am sick of everything being about race nowadays and how some people just want to be perpetual victims.
Sadly western countries as a whole have celebrated victim hood status and now are dealing with an entire generation of “oppressed” victims. America is probably the most obvious but even in Brazil and Italy you hear these things now
This is normal for human beings: to try to get some privilege for doing absolutely nothing. They are either too lazy to work or too stupid to educate themselves and be able to provide valuable well payed service. This way they bring race, sex, whatever else empty as their life arguments to obtain a privilege to be payed for nothing.
Because it is easy money to play victimhood over race or gender etc. If the culture rewards “being a victim” you will have millions of them. Ironically those self-proclaimed victims will victimise everyone standing in their way.
Communism has infiltrated big time. That's what we need to root out.
They are bored children ..
I also think it’s very troubling that she pretty much implied racial or indeed any unconscious biases are unique to white people. That’s the root cause of the flaw in her argument. Unconscious biases are present in all of us. So it’s really a non- starter to pose it as a white people doing it to black people thing. 🤦🏾♀️
Well spotted
You just beautifully articulated that exact racism that has so much purchasing power in the US that millions of "white" people have to deal with constantly. Thank you.
From my life experiences, which I'm sure is very common to any non-black American, is that White people are not the biggest group of racist per racial group in America. Far from it in fact.
Indeed. Any negative comment about a group of people based on their skin color is racist, so she's proving she's (currently) racist against white people.
It's an obvious example of her conscious biases.
Firstly, how can someone speak so eloquently about a topic that is thrown at you at random Secondly, yeah, what he said! Amazing
She fixed my unconscious bias where I thought people with posh British accents where intelligent.
Ha! Brilliant.
She’s open minded and having a conversation instead of yelling and not letting him speak. So I have to give her credit.
That accent stresses me out its like California upspeak were they talk down to you without knowing
She's from North England/Midlands I think? This is not the Queen's English but still posh I guess.
Edit: Based on the comments and listening to her accent again,I have come to the conclusion that she is not British at all, she is likely an American putting on a fake Queen's English accent. It is a pretty good fake but it is mixed with a bit of dialects from all over England which is super weird and hence why everyone in the comments cannot agree where she is from which is unusual. Thus, I'm 95% sure this is a made up accent and she's American.
Thought police?
Ironically, her crappy attempt at imitating Ben, combined with her "snooty" attitude, shows HER own "unconscious bias".
I think it shows her conscious bias as well.
Isn't that what people call "a hypocrite"?
Perhaps she has "unconscious bias" against Jews. If she does, she would never know! To the re-education camp she goes! :-)
I agree - she certainly had an attitude before he even spoke.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
When you have to mock someone, it shows such immaturity.
@Sappho Nymph he said he thought trump was a good president- there for he is a leftist? Your crazy bro
@Sappho Nymph u not makin sense my guy
@Sappho Nymph I donno if u crazy but u confusin me. Either way yea I guess I do talk to crazy people
For sure. That sort of behavior has no place in a civil debate and engaging in it only serves to debase one’s self
@Sappho Nymph god bless u😂
🤣 this chick was so confident 🤣 turns out her “bias” had her slip up despite how clever she thought she was with her wording 🤣
To find racism, look to the left.
Well put.
And to end racism, do as Morgan Freeman said and ignore it, look the opposite direction of the pointing out of race, look to The Right.
KKK was liberals the union was for slave the south was actually against it cheap labor put them all in containers let China know we got child workers and adult slaves ready for the cargo ships orders start at 1.5 million per container
@@JMObyx Yes. As I remeber, he said to the interviewer the following:-"Then stop calling it."
I took this literal and now I believe my window is racist.
She's telling you that it's her job to police the thoughts in your mind.
Just let that sink in
Ah yes, the “thought police”. I read about them in a book once, never thought I would see one in person. The world they live in is not one anyone should want.
Didn’t need much time for that to sink in. I can care less how she wants to use up the time on this earth. 🤯
“Ok, so that’s a really interesting response” roughly translates to “fuck, I’m asking nonsense questions about a nonsense subject to someone who is intellectually vastly superior to me, I’m out of my depth and everyone else here realised this way before I did”
You can tell she didn't even care about his response. It was let me get my recognition and then tune you out. lol
Her British accent barely makes her seem more reasonable.
Exactly right! She didn't listen to a word he said.
Yes so true , she was a proper clown
@Linc Colt Lol do you mean epitome?
Just like a Communist that can't wait to see Millions of people die in mass Graves! God Help America beat Communism again and again and again!
Shapiro's a genius with great patience and courage. Standing up to these nuts all of the time would drive me crazy.
When Ben Shapiro sips his water, he just buried another victim.
TRUTH 😂
DEVOURING LIBTARDS ONE GULP AT A TIME
Wetting his throat with liberal tears for the next victim.
Drinking their subconscious tears.😂
Never go up against Ben Shapiro in a debate!!!
Or if you do go up against Ben, then render proper respect and prepare to learn.
@@landen99 lol
Seriously, he debates for a living. Arrogant college kids lol
@@landen99 Ben is fast when it comes to formulating logic and there is very little if any logic from the opposing side. Hence, why Ben shuts them down right away. Notice when she began to lose the argument she resorted to aggression. Thats how children act.
Princess Bride " Never start a land war in Asia, and never go up against Ben Shapiro in a debate". :)
I literally could watch him speak all day. It's fascinating how quickly his brain works.
Same here
Same here
I was thinking the same 👍
? it happens when you focus your life on public speaking you become good at what you do it's no miracle
Same here!!
"you can take a minute and collect your thoughts to answer the question..." she really thought she had him stumbled.
That she mimics his voice so as to belittle him destroys her argument about bias.
It doesn’t destroy her argument... the message is not the same as the messenger. They are, generally speaking, mutually exclusive. Someone being an asshole can still make a good point.
That being said, she did belittle herself and, with his refusal to take offense or to retort in kind, just made him look that much better in contrast.
@@craigraboteau7024 It really does. You can not argue against bias but use mockery by mimicking the person opposite you without showing your own bias against that person.
@@simonewardle3742 absolutely and indeed
Shows her own bias and no class behavior
some people resort to ad hom attacks when they realize they are being out-witted
I was raised to understand, "You cannot change anyone but the person between your elbows." That statement has yet to be disproven.
Can you teach me this type of clinch?
@@FabioGhibli *Life lesson
The only way racism and biases will be eliminated is for each person to take responsibility for themselves.
I changed my wife... she is now very obedient!!
You can help people change, it happens in medical professions etc. all the time, thing is you need them allowing you to help, you can not shove this kind of help down someone's throat. So in order for her to 'help' me, she first needs to convince me i need her help. I'll drop a little understatement here: so far she's found lacking any and all convincing powers.
Guaranteed that she didn't even bother to listen to his answer, much less ponder it. She just took the microphone so she could wow everyone with her shitty impression.
Shapiro don't be a coward and debate Muhammad Hijab
@@hamzaelk9634 islam is from shytaan deal with it
@@halimak625 Christianity is paganism worshiping bunch of Gods
@@hamzaelk9634 name the bunch of gods...?
@@halimak625 1+1+1 = ?
I would love to have somebody like Shapiro as a friend, with whom I would love to discuss so many issues. He is really articulate and thoughtful.
If she hadn’t had the unconscious bias of strangling him she did after that. 🤣😂
But then it becomes conscious bias, which goes to prove his point 😅
Best part lol
I love that he doesn't suffer fools gladly--he nails them with logic and real thinking skills.
That smug look on her face says it all. She's not there for actual answers, she just thinks she can achieve that "gotcha" moment.
Yep, she's after a 'gotcha' moment. So sad for her it didn't work.
@@ajon6487 interesting point of view. Wrong. But definitely interesting. What should "we" listen to? Also I hope you're prepared to listen and learn.
She should pick a job nearer her own intellectual size next time-
@@horacerumpole6912 what job would that be?
@@marcellusb5942 Trotting out her attempt of running a false narrative with the attendant false conclusions to trap Shapiro, who promptly deflated her racist posit-
She lost my respect as soon as she lifted her finger to tell him to stop talking
Wow. If you get so butthurt over such a micro-aggressions then your life must suck.
@@sunnyjim1355 literally
@@sunnyjim1355 and you’re butthurt 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡
@Focus Entertainment yes actually she did. Watch the video again. She totally put up her finger as a sign for him to ‘hold off’ on talking so she could better explain herself.
lol! The coward deleted his comment 🤣
After reading the description of what this video was about, she never had my respect to begin with
See how quickly she gave up that microphone as soon as he called her out on her thoughts about strangling him. She knew she was done after that lol
It’s amazing to see her anger towards Ben yet he’s not malicious towards her. Who has the bias?!? While mocking him for coming out to speak to everyone.
Oh, that gave me joy. I generally loathe Shapiro's propensity for semantic traps as a substitute for a valid rebuttal, but her indignation was on full display in her face.
Facts
Her anger? Angry sjw poc trope playing on your mind? I did not see any anger from either of them, I guess your concious bias led you to that conclusion? It's amazing they you viewed an intellectual debate were no body raised their voice, smiles from both participants and some how this in your mind equates to her anger? It's quite ironic considering the topic in question😂🤣😂🤣
@@thenet3d You weren't paying attention, kid.
@@thenet3d Guess you missed the point where she went on the defensive when and employed a mocking tone when he wouldn't validate her unsubstantiated claims?
She lost the argument when she did his impressions.
She lost before that
She lost when she had the thought to ask her questions
She has an unconscious bias against listening to counterpoint.
Bullying to get your point across means you’ve lost your point. I agree
Long before that.
Its a good thing I don't act on every thought that enters my mind. I'd be on a never-ending slapping spree.
You'd eventually run out of lotion.
@@Mr.Ekshin lol 😆
I'd either be dead, or a lot of other people would be. Take your pick.
Granted, acknowledging that we don't act on every thought also defeats the claim of manipulation through social media.
Unless we take into account that most people don't actively control their behavior.
@@Mr.Ekshin I'll be there to back him up with the talcum powder!
Indeed, my ring hand would be severely bruised.
It is no different than prosecuting someone for thought crimes. She’s clueless.
"You can take a minute to recollect your thoughts"
The smugness these individuals bring to the table show you they've never had their ideas confronted before. They think their position is unbeatable.
The MOST biased people I have ever known are people like her.
@Krimsen King 99.9% of them. And the 0.1% remainder are more than likely just like her.
funny how she is a perfect example of the issue when she starts mocking him and trying to imitate how he talks lol
Can you imaging if he mimicked her?? OMG she would have totally lost what’s left of her mind
@@marielarosa7624 "what's left of her mind" lol She is certainly left-minded, eh?
Yeah so rude
Her mocking him showed her level of insecurity and ignorance. She knew she had already lost the argument and her questions were bogus. That is why she had to mock him it shows a level of ignorance above all she destroyed herself with this argument well done woman well done
peace minus: She did that because she's a toddler.
It's astounding that she didn't understand that people had thoughts that they didn't act on all the time, and actually needed an example of one - more toddler behaviour (apologies toddlers).
Employee to boss; You're an A hole.
Boss; Don't call me that.
Employee; Can I think it?
Boss; Of course, I can't stop you thinking anything.
Employee; OK, then I think you're an A hole.
She assumes that others have unconscious bias and Ben explains you can’t prove it and she stays stuck on her flawed concept anyway. People are so stubborn to the point of absurdity.
I do the same thing she does. Where did she get her view that others have unconscious bias? Her group told her, or a Professor she admires, or some book/study/television program she enjoyed. The point is, she accepts it for different reasons and doesn't do the research necessary to make sure it's factual. Who has the time? I'm guilty of the same thing she is, I've picked up nuggets of information along the way that made sense so I filed them under "truth" without making sure they really were the truth. And if someone confronts my view with the actual truth it better be a boatload of examples because it's really hard to change someones mind. It's just the way people are.
To paraphrase Dennis Prager, there's so little conscious bias this woman has to dig for unconscious bias!
I am hating more and more people now than ever before with people telling me I am a hater based on the colour of my skin.
I really believe that's in part of what they are trying to accomplish through the media. Keep telling people something that they are NOT until it manifests outward & really does happen, obviously because We are only Human and People can only take so much. Then they can claim, I TOLD YOU SO. But in all Reality, those individuals that claim "white privilege" & "Racism" are the ones who are really Racist against Straight, White, Christian Americans. We all know what's really going on. We just need MORE Leaders not afraid to speak the truth and stand up for ALL Peoples. We need to organize like they do but Lawfully against this BS that will divide and destroy us ALL. I really do get what you said!
I agree with both of your points. Also, I believe more people are finding ways to keep to themselves outside the people they already know. I doubt many of the younger generation are aware of the Golden Rule. That rule seems to be lost in the translation today where people are now looking towards cultural appropriation rather than overall acceptance which is turning people universally into racists. They're just too stupid to see that because they all want to remain in their own echo chambers and point the finger and cancel anyone that might have a different opinion.
Sorry ... both, gently consider this ...
*‼️They are the 666. Literally.*
*In fact, persecution of ALL dissent* to the Marxist rule revealing itself is going to continue. It will expand to include the entire country. *Anyone who refuses the mark of the beast will not be allowed to buy and sell”.*
The mark of the beast is NOT a chip. It simply means not resisting their rule.
Prophecy being fulfilled. Trust and obey Jesus as best you can.
We are in the tribs now.
If you have any questions please ask.
There’s a lot more to tell. But you can ask even just one little question if you prefer.
This is my testimony. Praise God.
Jesus is Lord. God bless you. ✝️💙🙂
Sad but true, the government controls the media and they want us to be fighting amongst ourselves while they crash our economy and Implement ways to enslave us. It's an old term that the government loves to push on its citizens called tribalism.
When all the Indians are fighting against themselves the big bad government comes in and takes all their stuff.
Fuck em they can call whatever they want the only thing that matters is that you know what you are
This is what shits me
The high moral ground that people,like her enjoy but never have to take responsibility for
Carol Baskins. Real Pandemic.
Ah yes but she's a woman ya misogynist!!!1111!! Apparently. Yep, grinds my gears too that the likes of her can get away with anything that comes out of their mouths but if you hold her to her words then we are the bullies.
They do not occupy any moral high ground. They and their media allies only say that they do. In order to occupy a moral position, you must have consistent moral principles. I defy, anyone to show me where do the leftists in society has any?
A well spoken man who does not address the research directly, but dismisses it out of hand can fool many.
If one does not hire those of color who have the same resume as a white person, then that bias is behavioral, Ben.
@@davidpeppers551 how does a well spoken man know what color a person is just from their resume ? Hmm?
People who ask a question to someone they already disagree with can't give the attention or have the patience to listen to the response - since they already decided they didn't agree from the start.
Hmm, well, isn't that unconscious bias right there? How ironic she did that.
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I love how she thinks her beliefs are ‘a given’.
yes . she demanded that unconscious bias was real and there was no way to deny it.
They think differently than we do..Blacks are so entitled.
That's called brainwashed. Lol
@@soulvaccination8679 the dumb ones do. The smart ones think like smart people of whatever race.
She doesnt understand the concept of not acting out your every single thought because she has so few of them.
she has many i think but she is not aware of them. she is too focused to push her "orchestrated bias theory"...
Plus, they seem to announce every thought. Sometimes it's better to just keep it inside where it belongs.
I was surprised when she thought he couldn't think of any examples of when someone might think something but not do it. A dozen examples popped into my mind within 5 seconds, and in 30 seconds I could have listed dozens more. She thought her brain was working, but it wasn't.
@@shawnc1016 More interesting "thoughts" have come out from my a$$. 😅
@@rowanaforrest9792 exactly. and not just because she is female, in terms of females more often acting without thinking, but more specifically young people acting without really thinking, and even even more specifically, millenials who actively manage to delude themselves into not even being willing to accept they are responsible for their actions, whether pre-thought or not. which is the insane double standard, where SJWs who don't believe in any of their own personal responsibility or agency, then expecting everyone else to have hyper responsibility over things they really can't (like unconcious bias...)
Going around with a level of narcissism that allows you to tell yourself that you somehow preemptively have the inside track on other people’s thoughts and future actions is definitely a “you” problem
Thoughts that cross your mind are extremely rare to be acted upon. Every person that has walked the planet has had thousands of " bad" thoughts in their life. Luckily as Ben says we judge people on their actions and not their thoughts.
Exactly. Every person on earth has thoughts that, if they acted on them, would land them in prison for the rest of their lives, yet 99.9% never act on those thoughts.
The worst thing she did to herself was to tell him "you can collect your thoughts". In that 2 second pause we knew he was going to destroy her.
Absolutely
Unconscious bias does exist and can be measured but not in static terms only in dynamic situations which is what he is probably referring to as being difficult to measure. To say it doesn't exist as a psychological phenomenon is stretching the boundaries of truth but to say it doesn't exist in the way it is being promulgated by overly leftist societies is most likely very much in line with the truth.
Ironically all this has very little to do with race, colour or appearance, the human subconscious can get over these things very quickly. They are a means of identification but without preconceived notions on how to interpret them place no barrier on how much of a connection you can have with a person. Instead it has much more to do with the lack of interaction during childhood due to the societal boundaries, perceptions and the fears handed down by parents. Some cultures are progressing faster than others but one trend is clear in all cases, that the only real change occurs with changing generations. Hence must be careful to not screw up our children any more than we already are. Anything that promotes lack of interaction between children due to hatred or pride must be eliminated even if this goes against political correctness.
@@chrisdeep8417 Who thinks about it this deeply other than people who are systemically flawed and themselves inherently racist?
2 seconds in Shapiro's head is like an eternity in SJW land...
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I’ve always been a pretty moderate person, women like this are why I have never wanted to lean left. The smugness, the dismissivemess, the absolute self assured Stare after every question like he needs to explain himself..it’s so obnoxious
I love watching him wipe the floor with smug people like her
She seems narcissistic in my opinion
@@chrisworkman9390 She is a bleating black racist, she needs to get a real life.
Why do you mention only women like this? Plenty of men are exactly the same.
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 because she is the individual acting this way in this situation.
- Blame anything, anyone, and everyone but yourself for the unhappiness and failures of your life -
Religion of the self
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"...religion of the self." A.K.A.: idol worship.
So true, i did that till i reached 40 and it kind of hit me like a ton of bricks and slapped me out of my stupidity.
We have to realise that it's not other people standing in our way but what are we actually doing to better our lives???
Happy little guy!!
@sayitlikeitis I always try be careful not to put the words "most" or "some" or "all" before making statements like that because we really don't know how most people think on every subject. It honestly just makes the commenter look ignorant.
The place I recently worked shall remain nameless, A black woman bullied most of the office staff, one had left previously and the other one was going to, she was in front of HR for the fourth time because of her bullying behaviour and they still did not sack her and she was terrible at her job and cost the company thousands.. Go figure....
my subconscious bias is telling me that she had a bone to pick with him for his opinions, and wanted to look smart for her tribe while attempting to corner ben with moot points about things that arent real.
She failed to look smart!
Perfectly said Jason
Yeah Jason. Good one 👍👍
This whY i THINK THAT THE TERM UNCONSCIOUS BIAS IS A WRONG TERM. SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED SUBCONSCIOUS BIAS.
Subconscious bias is a much better term and one that really exists and can be measured in dynamic situations.
The only unfortunate thing is you cannot change subconscious bias in adults. If you are punished as a child for playing with a classmate of a certain race then you will grow up to have a subconscious bias towards that race and it will be very nearly impossible to change. The best you could hope for is to not pass it down to your own children.
This gave me so much joy! I enjoy listening and speaking with intelligent people and I hope to meet Shapiro one day.
sounds awesome, I wish I could too
I would be one of those people that once in front of Shapiro , I would become tongue tied 🤭
@sayitlikeitis stereotypes are ignorant. I suggest you learn to look at people on an individual basis. Good day.
His whiney voice makes me daydream within seconds.
@@junkybabes you should concentrate harder.
She just showed her character, or lack thereof, with her idiotic impression. Move along, Goodbye
I was thinking the same thing.
Yes, that was extremely childish & condescending.
If Ben would have done a British accent in response, she would have called him a racist. Yes, I realize that does not make sense, but it would have happened.
@@testodude exactly.
@Natural Harmonia Gropius Word and for a female has a deeper voice than Ben while doing so..🤣
It takes years of formal classroom training, for a person to be that far out in the weeds, away from reality.
Yes Ben. The answer isn’t unconscious bias training, it is self control!
They know racism doesn’t exist on a large scale so they created the term because people immediately know if they are consciously racist. And most people aren’t so everybody will immediately deny it. So they are trying to trick people that they are unconsciously racist because if you are unconscious you can’t prove it. It’s just a way for them to migrate the fact racism doesn’t exist on any large scale and they know people believe everything they are told so they know some people will believe it. I’m a trauma surgeon so I just happen to know a thing or two about being people being unconscious. I’ve cut on hundreds of people and they have no memory of it. Normally you would say subconsciously but you can think back and see if you were subconsciously racist. Unconscious you can’t prove at all.
I think the term self control isn't proper 🤔...
They want to stop a train of thoughts where you have no control over it...
It's not wanting a slice of cake because it smells delicious but you have to control yourself because you have to loose weight 😜
Ehh, you can’t self-control if you are unaware that you are being controlled by thoughts and attitudes you aren’t aware of.
@@horatiosvengali4624 yeah... so how can you define that?? 🤔
And that’s biblical teaching! Love it! As the Bible also says you can’t teach reason to people who don’t want to be Taught reason!
This woman has no critical thinking skills at all. She thought she had a point. That’s frightening.
Just repeating her leftist professor's talking points.
She is a robot! NPC... Not AI cause AI can think intelligently
its amazing how he can remain poised and logical when answering questions like this
He’s brilliant, as always. Thank you Ben.
*She had to mention Trump,*
*Isn't that "unconscious bias"*
Yep!
She knows she hates Trump , so wouldn't you say that she has conscious bias ?
It Proves How Brainwashed the LEFT Democrats really are and how FAKE NEWS MEDIA has been demonized and weaponized to divide our nation.
You're confusing unconscious bias with trump derangement syndrome.
No, that’s conscious bias.
She wanted to speak when she raised her hand but waited until Ben was done. Literally an example of not acting on a thought.
The whole theory of unconscious bias is ridiculous.
Subconscious bias is a much better term and one that really exists and can be measured in dynamic situations. Classic example is when a store clerk greets people differently based on their ethnicity. Caucasian: gets the full smile.
Asian looking: partial smile.
African features: stone face.
African features and wearing a hoodie: nervous grin.
Any intelligent person living in any major city has witnessed this regardless whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.
The unfortunate thing is you cannot change subconscious bias in adults. For example if as a child your parents would punish you for playing with a classmate of a certain race then you will grow up to have a subconscious bias towards that specific race. This has very little to do with differences in appearance. For example some parts of France even today are well known to treat the caucasian German tourists very differently than everyone else (although you wouldn't say they was much physical difference between them).
A second unfortunate fact is that it is near impossible to change in adulthood. The best you could hope for is to not pass it down to your own children.
@@chrisdeep8417 You are equating thoughts with behavior. Did you watch this video? Ben explained it, but he talks too fast. I can take a stab at it-
For example, I am an LSU alumn and yuge football fan. Would I hire a black Auburn fan over a white Alabama fan? My knee-jerk answer is ABSOLUTELY- not because the Auburn fan and I share common ground, but because I have a VERY MUCH CONSCIOUS bias (a thought) against Alabama.
However, in the end, I would review the resumes carefully, then hire the more qualified candidate (a behavior). The point is the former does NOT always govern the latter - especially, for people with a lick of sense, where common ground transcends race every time.
IF this "unconscious/subconscious bias" even exists, how can it be proven? By definition, it can't. Racial bias exists, sure, but it's very much a conscious thought. I suspect someone has taken the phenomenon of "in-group preference" and re-labled it just to promote division. More communist pseudo-academia (that brown, greasy finger paint of the left)
@@lsu1992 There are crucial holes in your argument and it seems to come from a misunderstanding about psychological processes.
In your first example, your conscience won over your team bias because you wanted to be fair. It means your bias was not really threatened enough to go against your principles. Moreover, your bias manifested itself in thought and desire but never realized in external action.
A bias has to do with something that you value greatly, because of this it must have a psychological imprint, as a learned reaction.
You mentioned that racial bias is conscious bias? This cannot be, you are making things up. If racial bias is not in the unconscious or subconscious, then it doesn't exist at all because it will have no psychological root. Conscious bias is actually the manifested learned reaction either in thought or in external action.
@@chrisdeep8417 bullshit, i only smile at my future victims.
@@socjlm82 Lmao There are zero holes in his argument. Stay mad.
Yes! Thanks Ben
The beginning of any argument usually starts with someone claiming they know what you are thinking 😳😜😅
I know what you're thinking Helen, you do look great in your profile picture. If only I was 20 years younger and my wife wasn't looking.
You are do right lol
My feeling is that I know what you're thinking and you're thinking hurts my feelings...
@@philipsdeb I have to because though I think I'm mostly harmless the wokies know the infinite improbability that I have a heart of gold but rather the mouse sized mind of "Man" and it's irreparably dented by terillions of evil thoughts.
Did she really ask “Can you give me an example where a thought someone has doesn’t effect their behaviour?” ?😂😂
You can tell the first thought that Ben had was, "Yeah, I haven't walked down there and smacked the shit out of you". But he thought to change it around.
@@Mr.Ekshin Bravo! 👏👏👏
Spot on. We have 60000 thoughts a day, of course we’re not acting out on each of those.
If you're manic depressive like me you can extend that by 1000° expansively. Now there's a real treat trying to process 657.30 frames per parsec as they flash through your mind.
Having fUN N O W ! !
Jaw dropping, crazy intelligent, fastest talking young man ever!!! Love it!!
Thx BShapiro 💯🙏🏼 this women’s question is slanting racism upon white people solely upon unconscious bias. And then to make this more appalling, draw the correlation between a human psychological phenomenon to “white privilege” being proven by this psychological phenomenon.
"For instance, every thought that you have about walking up here and strangling me right now."
Soooo on point.
What my dad always says, "You only have control over what you do, so you have a responsibility to yourself and your actions and no one else's".
Smart dad
This doesn't compute well at all with the "participation trophied millennials and centennials." They just simply want things to happen the way they want it (which usually is based on ignorance), but they don't want to do anything to achieve it. "No action talk only" virtue signaling generations.
He is just so sharp. Amazing 😊
He hit that one out of the park. Ben's super power is that he can cut through the BS, rephrase the question in a way that make sense, and then deal with it. Just awesome. Don't ever stop!
I like how she said “if that is true” realizes she phrased it wrong then said “given that, that is true”
It was the tell that she's full of crap, you don't get to throw crap against the wall and then make everyone work off the premise that what you just said is true. She can state her opinion and debate if it's valid
@@tnoble You're missing the point. Unconscious bias is a real thing. Studies have shown this. It isn't up for debate. She adapted her question from "if this is true..." to "given that this is true..." to make that clear and prevent Ben from being able to use a dismissive response.
I don't agree with Shapiro on a lot of issues but I think he's right here. Unconscious bias is real but given it's unconscious nature there isn't really much we can do about it, unless you want to get into dystopian thought policing.
@@mosley3485 what am I thinking right now?
@@mayhemjr.803 It doesn't matter. I'm thinking you didn't understand my comment.
Right? I mean. I would start right off by telling her that its not "GIVEN" to be true. That is the whole point of a debate isnt it? Young ppl are so stupid it actually makes me sick. lol Then is see some smart ones and think "Oh thank God."
The look on her face when she's hit with FACTS...PRICELESS.
Well said!!
Love this guys' quick, articulate, intelligent views, responses, thinking, and much more
That's because you agree with him. There are a lot of people that despise Shapiro because they disagree with his views. We would be better off as a species if we could put a damper on emotions and approach difficult topics with nothing but logic and reasoning. Viewpoints and opinions shift constantly but the truth is always true no matter how difficult that is to accept.
@@dracomaifoy7377 Very fair points, but I would argue that those people have not listened to him and given him a chance. I used to hate him based on social media groupthink and partisan hacks in the mainstream, but once I finally listened to a couple of his lectures, I realized that I had been severely misled. I disagree with him sometimes, but his logic is always airtight. Any smart person can at very least respect him for that.
In other words...not a liberal.
She was automatically consciously biased against Ben with her condescending tone.
You CANNOT control what people think. Until somebody invents a mind reading machine, our thoughts are still our own and completely private.
It's closer than you think.
Currently, from what I've read, there is this push to basically merge man and machine -- as here, AI. What they want to do is enable things like, you think about the lights in your house when you walk in, your Alexa, or some other AI machine, "hears" these thoughts electronically, flips on your lights via WiFi.
The problem is, if you can send signals out, you can receive signals as well -- which means that someone, somewhere, would literally be monitoring your thoughts, which, I believe, will lead to the idea of the Thought Police being real.
They sure try though, repeat, repeat, works on soooo many, you know it.
He blows me away every time I hear him speak.Soo intelligent and articulate…
Why do extremely unqualified people even try to debate with BIG BEN🤩
Because they don't believe they are unqualified. It's extremely difficult to find people who honestly believe they're merely average or even below average. Everyone wants to believe they're above average in any category.
Thought police are a very bad idea. One of the things that makes humans better over time is the ability to recognize the thoughts in their heads and determine if they are going to act on them or reject them. Unconscious bias sets a dangerous precedent. Can you see the court case?
Lawyer: "The defendent murdered the victim due to unconscious bias."
That would never fly. The conscious mind overrides the unconscious mind all the time.
And that's exactly what all this "unconscious bias" BS is all about - an attempt by the thought police to find another back door to sneak into your life since all the ones they've been trying since the early 90's didn't work. No intelligent person is falling for their fallacy of false assumption BS.
@@jonroth9656 "No intelligent person is falling for their fallacy"
Well there's the problem.
@@vladivanov5500 Agreed.....the amount of stupidity today is unparalleled
@Krimsen King Are your questions directed to anyone in particular or are they open to anyone to respond?
@Krimsen King Apologies for my delay in responding to you. I have been researching the current widespread and ongoing human rights violations in China and determining how best to bring them to light so the victims will be helped.
That said, I am unclear on your position/questions.
Is it your position that this particular video was a discussion of unconscious bias on the part of police that results in violence towards people of color?
I believe unconscious bias may have been brought up in court before, though I have no evidence of such. I can see how it could be brought up as a means of painting a character portrait of a person, but I don't think it would ever fly, even in that usage.
To paraphrase Ben Shapiro, people cannot read minds. That being true, we cannot base anything factual on what may or may not happen in a person's unconscious or conscious thought process.
To restate my position, conscious thought continually overrides unconscious thought. An idea MAY potentially begin in an unconscious fashion, but once it reaches the conscious mind, it is evaluated by the thinker and decisions of action or inaction are made about it.
As an example, a person may reach for a certain cereal box in the morning out of habit, what some might refer to as unconscious bias, then realize that it's Saturday and they have time to make pancakes and eggs, which they would rather eat. What began as an "unconscious bias," if you will, is reevaluated and discarded in favor of something that is chosen by the conscious mind.
I do not wish to make assumptions about your position, as that won't help any of us understand each other better. If I have misunderstood your point, please correct me and elaborate on your perspective.
That woman literally didn’t understand the answer.
Ben’s response is not novel. Jordan Peterson says the exact same thing!
Her follow up behavior is ridiculous ... unless she didn’t understand the answer.
She definitely didn’t understand the answer. Nor was she prepared to listen with an open mind. The root of this behaviour is pride and arrogance.....which has been seeded and stoked by academia along with their Marxist ideology woven into the education system. She will have to go through some hard knocks before she begins to ask questions, instead of regurgitating the marxist garbage. I feel really sorry for this and the past generation because they’ve been effectively brainwashed, plus not taught how to think critically. Other factors are at play......
He and Candace Owens. They are so informed and so rational that you just can't argue...and still sound intelligent. I could listen to them all day.
“... unconscious bias, a ghost of a ghost...”
She was so surprised at how fast he responded does she not know who the f*** he is. Lmao love ben
That kid really thought she hit it out of the park.
Students usually think that. Students usually are young, and youth is all about not knowing what you don't know.
You’d respect it if it was actually just asking a question. But it’s the smug attitude/ thinking she’s smart because of her accent / cocky impression that makes her a chump and pathetic
I love how he clearly explains how MAJORITY% of people think but have a tough time calmly describing👍👍👍