Hello David Newman. Im an RN and I cared for your uncle, Emil, in Woodland Hills (MPH) during the summer of the Olympics, so that would be 1984. I lived in Woodland Hills then, but I’m from New Haven, CT. (I’m back living in CT now) I think Emil was your uncle. He told me that he was from New Haven, and we both are Jewish. Idk if that’s why he liked me, but I sure liked him! He was a lovely gentle man/ gentleman This, of course, was many years ago, and I’ve cared for hundreds, thousands-of patients since. I’ve never forgotten Mr Emil Newman. He was very special. May his memory be a blessing. ❤
One thing that always baffled me was that the "Twentieth Century Fox Fanfare and CInemaScope Extension" (the official published title of the piece) was created by Alfred Newman *specifically* for the new CinemaScope, wide-screen process which people don't realize was a monumental shift in the way movies would forever hence would be shot by filmmakers and viewed by audiences -- the square-ish 1.37:1 aspect ratio or "Academy" ratio was gone for ever. So if the music was written for that CinemaScope additional frame, why did Fox NOT use it for THE ROBE (1953), which was their monumental opening of the first picture in the CinemaScope process which was hyped for months and with theatres even shutting down for a week to install the necessary equipment. That logo and the in CinemaScope frame does not appear on Fox's very first CInemaScope picture. To be accurate, THE ROBE was the first film *released* in CinemaScope, but HOW TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE was the first to be shot in CinemaScope before production started on THE ROBE, but that said, HTMAM (also 1953) does not have the new logo either. That new logo with the music extension to cover the "A CinemaScope Picture" additional second frame didn't appear until RIVER OF NO RETURN in 1954, which most would consider to be not much more than a "B" picture. So the question is, why didn't Darryl Zanuck, who staked his reputation and was totally committed to the studio's new wide screen process (with 3.1 surround stereo sound, no less) insist that the premiere opening of the first CinemaScope picture carry the new logo? After all, CinemaScope was incredibly important to the studio -- if you look at the movie posters and the newspaper ads, the word "CinemaScope" appears ABOVE the names of the stars and even above the title of the film itself! Why THE ROBE and HTMAM didn't get the new Fox logo remains a mystery.
I just to want to correct David. Darryl left Warner Bros. in 1933 to open his new company 20th Century Pictures in 1933 to produce The Bowery, he later became the new head of 20th Century Fox when it was merged and founded in 1935. The logo was actually created in 1933 when Darryl started 20th Century Pictures. The fanfare also came in 1933, an recomposed version was done by Alfred in 1935 for two movies, Lés Misérables and Call of The Wild (both 1935) with the more familiar 1935 fanfate making its first appearance in 20th Century Fox's first movie Metropolitan. When Fox Film merged with 20th Century to become 20th Century Fox (now called 20th Century Studios since 2020). The logo was redesign to replace "Pictures, Inc" with "FOX" in 1935. Everything he said was true and correct.
Let me add to this correction that the first appearance of the extention of the logo fanfare was not in 56 for Cinerama but in 1953 in the movie 'How to Marry a Millionaire'. The extension was written for the introduction of the new CinemaScope technology (which weirdly enough debuted with The Robe which did not include this extended version of the logo)
Both David and Thomas Newman seem like such great guys. I've always wanted to meet them to ask two questions. First is sort of a personal question, but I'm curious as to what it was like to grow up with Alfred as a father. Was he tough on them forcing them into a musical career? Or, was he an effesvesent father who encouraged the kids to pursue other interests? Second, ln all the years I've watched 20th Century-Fox movies, I've noticed the times when the Fox Fanfare was NOT used over the logo. I've often wondered was this at the request of the particular director, composer or Darryl Zanuck because he wanted the picture to be singled ot as an important picture for Oscar consideration. For examples, the fanfare was not used for either "Gentleman's Agreement" or "All About Eve" (both Best Picture winners) or "Decision Before Dawn," "The Robe" or "Peyton Place "(all Best Picture nominees). To go a step further, neither the fanfare nor any music over th logo was used for "The Diary of Anne Frank,: There was just silence. In the case of that film, it was well known that directed George Stevens HATED CinemaScope and was angry that Spiros Skouras forced the photo system on him, especially for a claustrophobic film. To accentuate the point further. "Diary's" main rival fore Best Picture in 1959 (and eventual winner), "Ben-Hur" had a request from director William Wyler that Leo the Lion NOT roar to open up the film because the film was a "special" film. So, all we had was Miklos Rosza's magnficent Oscar-winning music over Leo and the MGM logo. To take finally this one step further (Sorry for the wordiness.), I have noticed that both Bernard Herrmann or Franz Waxman rarely used the Fox fanfare to open their scores. Their decision, or the director or the studio head?
Another notable example of the Alfred Newman Fanfare not being employed at the beginning of a 20th Century Fox film is in his own score for "Twelve O'clock High" (1949), which immediately starts with a strikingly dramatic motif (including a chord played on piano) the moment the Fox logo appears, then segueing into the lyrical Main Title theme.
@@AJNorthAlso another example of the Fox fanfare not being used is one of my favorite films The French Connection (1971) making way for the great Don Ellis opening score through the opening credits.
@williamsnyder5616 Argo also had a request from director Ben Affleck to use the 70s-era WB logo (used during the Warner Communications era) because the movie is set in 1979. Another BP nominee, American Hustle used the late 70s Columbia logo because the film is set in 1977. Speaking of those, Oscar Best Actor winning Marty (1955) used the hexagonal United Artists logo (which itself debuted in 1930, right before Transamerica brought UA in 1967). Another Oscar UA picture Rocky used a "Blue Light" version of the UA logo (the one where the text is outlined by five blue lights, then the words revealed in orange and The Transamerica T and byline appears) in 1976.
If TCF/S had its own biopic movie or TV series, i would freak out in the TCF fanfare creation scene. Not just the fanfare, the logo too. Actually, 5 scenes that i would be excited to see: The creation of the studio, the logo and the fanfare How Star Wars got made The purchase by Disney And plus: classics like Home Alone and Predator and the creation of other Fox divisions.
Same thing with Warner Bros, if Warner Bros. had its own biopic movie, i would freak out on how the WB Shield, 7Arts, Kinney and the Saul Bass logos got made.
Hello David Newman.
Im an RN and I cared for your uncle, Emil, in Woodland Hills (MPH) during the summer of the Olympics, so that would be 1984.
I lived in Woodland Hills then, but I’m from New Haven, CT. (I’m back living in CT now)
I think Emil was your uncle.
He told me that he was from New Haven, and we both are Jewish.
Idk if that’s why he liked me, but I sure liked him!
He was a lovely gentle man/ gentleman
This, of course, was many years ago, and I’ve cared for hundreds, thousands-of patients since.
I’ve never forgotten Mr Emil Newman.
He was very special.
May his memory be a blessing. ❤
The logo community needs to see this!
That's true
I will definitely keep this in my Liked videos.
One thing that always baffled me was that the "Twentieth Century Fox Fanfare and CInemaScope Extension" (the official published title of the piece) was created by Alfred Newman *specifically* for the new CinemaScope, wide-screen process which people don't realize was a monumental shift in the way movies would forever hence would be shot by filmmakers and viewed by audiences -- the square-ish 1.37:1 aspect ratio or "Academy" ratio was gone for ever. So if the music was written for that CinemaScope additional frame, why did Fox NOT use it for THE ROBE (1953), which was their monumental opening of the first picture in the CinemaScope process which was hyped for months and with theatres even shutting down for a week to install the necessary equipment. That logo and the in CinemaScope frame does not appear on Fox's very first CInemaScope picture.
To be accurate, THE ROBE was the first film *released* in CinemaScope, but HOW TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE was the first to be shot in CinemaScope before production started on THE ROBE, but that said, HTMAM (also 1953) does not have the new logo either. That new logo with the music extension to cover the "A CinemaScope Picture" additional second frame didn't appear until RIVER OF NO RETURN in 1954, which most would consider to be not much more than a "B" picture. So the question is, why didn't Darryl Zanuck, who staked his reputation and was totally committed to the studio's new wide screen process (with 3.1 surround stereo sound, no less) insist that the premiere opening of the first CinemaScope picture carry the new logo? After all, CinemaScope was incredibly important to the studio -- if you look at the movie posters and the newspaper ads, the word "CinemaScope" appears ABOVE the names of the stars and even above the title of the film itself! Why THE ROBE and HTMAM didn't get the new Fox logo remains a mystery.
I just to want to correct David. Darryl left Warner Bros. in 1933 to open his new company 20th Century Pictures in 1933 to produce The Bowery, he later became the new head of 20th Century Fox when it was merged and founded in 1935. The logo was actually created in 1933 when Darryl started 20th Century Pictures. The fanfare also came in 1933, an recomposed version was done by Alfred in 1935 for two movies, Lés Misérables and Call of The Wild (both 1935) with the more familiar 1935 fanfate making its first appearance in 20th Century Fox's first movie Metropolitan. When Fox Film merged with 20th Century to become 20th Century Fox (now called 20th Century Studios since 2020). The logo was redesign to replace "Pictures, Inc" with "FOX" in 1935. Everything he said was true and correct.
Let me add to this correction that the first appearance of the extention of the logo fanfare was not in 56 for Cinerama but in 1953 in the movie 'How to Marry a Millionaire'. The extension was written for the introduction of the new CinemaScope technology (which weirdly enough debuted with The Robe which did not include this extended version of the logo)
Both David and Thomas Newman seem like such great guys. I've always wanted to meet them to ask two questions. First is sort of a personal question, but I'm curious as to what it was like to grow up with Alfred as a father. Was he tough on them forcing them into a musical career? Or, was he an effesvesent father who encouraged the kids to pursue other interests? Second, ln all the years I've watched 20th Century-Fox movies, I've noticed the times when the Fox Fanfare was NOT used over the logo. I've often wondered was this at the request of the particular director, composer or Darryl Zanuck because he wanted the picture to be singled ot as an important picture for Oscar consideration. For examples, the fanfare was not used for either "Gentleman's Agreement" or "All About Eve" (both Best Picture winners) or "Decision Before Dawn," "The Robe" or "Peyton Place "(all Best Picture nominees). To go a step further, neither the fanfare nor any music over th logo was used for "The Diary of Anne Frank,: There was just silence. In the case of that film, it was well known that directed George Stevens HATED CinemaScope and was angry that Spiros Skouras forced the photo system on him, especially for a claustrophobic film. To accentuate the point further. "Diary's" main rival fore Best Picture in 1959 (and eventual winner), "Ben-Hur" had a request from director William Wyler that Leo the Lion NOT roar to open up the film because the film was a "special" film. So, all we had was Miklos Rosza's magnficent Oscar-winning music over Leo and the MGM logo. To take finally this one step further (Sorry for the wordiness.), I have noticed that both Bernard Herrmann or Franz Waxman rarely used the Fox fanfare to open their scores. Their decision, or the director or the studio head?
I only know that he wasn't tough on them at least, he wasn't pressuring them to take the mantle or anything.
Another notable example of the Alfred Newman Fanfare not being employed at the beginning of a 20th Century Fox film is in his own score for "Twelve O'clock High" (1949), which immediately starts with a strikingly dramatic motif (including a chord played on piano) the moment the Fox logo appears, then segueing into the lyrical Main Title theme.
@@AJNorthAlso another example of the Fox fanfare not being used is one of my favorite films The French Connection (1971) making way for the great Don Ellis opening score through the opening credits.
@williamsnyder5616 Argo also had a request from director Ben Affleck to use the 70s-era WB logo (used during the Warner Communications era) because the movie is set in 1979. Another BP nominee, American Hustle used the late 70s Columbia logo because the film is set in 1977. Speaking of those, Oscar Best Actor winning Marty (1955) used the hexagonal United Artists logo (which itself debuted in 1930, right before Transamerica brought UA in 1967). Another Oscar UA picture Rocky used a "Blue Light" version of the UA logo (the one where the text is outlined by five blue lights, then the words revealed in orange and The Transamerica T and byline appears) in 1976.
David Newman composed Anastasia and the original Ice Age
If TCF/S had its own biopic movie or TV series, i would freak out in the TCF fanfare creation scene. Not just the fanfare, the logo too. Actually, 5 scenes that i would be excited to see:
The creation of the studio, the logo and the fanfare
How Star Wars got made
The purchase by Disney
And plus: classics like Home Alone and Predator and the creation of other Fox divisions.
Same thing with Warner Bros, if Warner Bros. had its own biopic movie, i would freak out on how the WB Shield, 7Arts, Kinney and the Saul Bass logos got made.
@@joshpritt2146 freak out like, scream?
@@nicolasribeirodossantos6082 get excited 😆😊
I'm with you. The fanfare is my cell ringtone.
Fascinating. S’wonderful. Thank you for posting. The Newman née Nemorfsky family are a National Treasure. 🎶🎺🎶
The fanfare is still used the logo still has the monument and searchlights but it's just not the same without Fox.
Kinda curious, didn't David Newman *LIKED* Bruce Broughton's recording of the fanfare before they asked David Newman to re-record the fanfare or what?