She's balanced around not powercreeping Shenhe in her own niche. They want Shenhe to retain being the flagship cryo carry buffer, while Citlali is the one you pair with hydro & pyro carries.
The hydro one is the most strange, with Citlali maybe you can actually run a forward melt team, but for freeze? Like you use her as solo cry and let the hydro characters do the job? (Aka neuvillette probably).
I really like her but the fact that she doesn't so ANYTHING for cryo instead buffs the top2 elements (which do not need anymore buffing) is a huge L. As an Ayaya main, this chara has shattered my hopes and dream 😭😭
HYV surely keeps anything related to Cryo buffing to Tsaritsa, just be patient fellow Ayaka's lover. Anyway, I think she will be a good alternative for ZL in Hu-Tao's team. I will get Citlali regardless as I still prefer her kits over too biased Mavuika's.
@@walnutlover6510yeah, i think Cyro related buff will be left for endgame. The problem is they will be added with new additional mechanic and not traditional cyro damage
All ten of us remaining Eula fans are malding that she wasn't the Superconduct buffer that early leaks had us believe. Maybe in Schneznaya r-right guys?
The only reason I can think of for why Hoyo didn't give her a Cryo res shred is because they'd know they'd be making Shenhe fully redundant if she had it. I know "Shenhe rerun never" and all of that, but I feel like they still want to play up the illusion of Shenhe being the go-to Cryo/Freeze Buffer.
I think Hoyoverse would rather make mo' money. And Shenhe doesn't make money, hence why she hasn't re-run. So I'm sure they'd happily powercreep in a heartbeat. But not with Citlali, who is another character in the current trend of "play with a select few other elements", that we've seen in quite a few recent characters, from the PECH dependent (Navia, Xilonen, Chasca) to the burn related (Emilie, Kinich) as well as ones that really want certain reactions (Mual, Ororon).
I’m hoping she gets cryo shred in the future betas. I have come to make an announcement I am stupid and forgot to watch the full video. On the other hand THEY NEED TO GIVE HER CRYO SHRED PLEASE. It’s so weird that she buffs freeze but there isn’t cryo shred in her kit. Also cryo needs the buffs
because she dont buff freeze, that clause is to say that she's playable on teams with hydro and cryo in plus of pyro, just like Kinich saying burning and burgeon and not burning only, this also helps for when you fight an enemy with an hydro shield so your buff doesnt turn off bc you cannot melt a permanent hydro shield, just for how Kinich dont get bricked against hydro shield bc burgeon also helps him to trigger his passive
as much as i agree, i dont see hoyo doing that because shenhe exists. that would make citlali buff cryo almost the same as shenhe (20% res shred + 40 dmg%) while having a sheild on top of that
She is NOT a melt-focused character. She’s meant to enable SOME melts on a VAPE-focused team. That’s why she reduces hydro res, not cryo res. And her cryo application once every 2 seconds is not enough for consistent forward melt, even with Arlecchino, who has slower pyro application. (She can still work in Freeze and Melt teams, but those don’t make full use of the buffs she gives.) She’s meant to be a buffer for vape Mavuika, Vape Arlecchino, or Vape Hu Tao. With Yelan or Xingqiu doing the hydro damage. Or forward Vape Mualani, as mentioned in the video. And her damage amp will be lower than Xilonen or Kazuha. She’s meant to be a sidegrade to Zhongli that can make use of cinder city artifact set. So you still have some defensive utility while getting MOST of the damage amps. Her teams won’t do as much as Kazuha or Xilonen, but the occasional melts will buff damage as well, and still make her a very solid option. And no, melt arelcchino with 2 cryo units will not be arlecchino’s best team. That’s still Arlecchino vape with Yelan, Kazuha/Xilonen, Bennett. She loses too much damage% by replacing yelan or Kazuha/Xilonen with rosaria or Kaeya. It can work for c6 arlecchino nuke teams, but for everyone else, sticking to vape is better.
The only issue with this is that Vapemelt doesn’t function against bosses as you can’t have a frozen aura and therefore unless you use a fast hydro applicator pyro aura is extremely likely to overtake. And even against freezable enemies currently double cryo enables perfect forward melts for both arle and mavuika which just outdamages most of their other team options while not getting gimped for bosses so I feel more comfortable recommending them
@@FliponYTfair enough. I don’t think the math adds up to actually make forward melt stronger than Vape over the course of an entire rotation due to all the damage% losses you’re taking by not having Kazuha/Xilonen and Yelan’s damage amp. But for shorter rotations and nuke comps, melt can work very well for them. Edit: Also, freezemelt doesn’t have to function against bosses for Citlali to be good in a vape team. She can trigger reverse-melt herself off the pyro aura to give the enemy hydro and pyro res shred. And since it lasts 12 seconds, you get that for most of your rotation. (Though this does suck a little for hydro main dps characters like neuvillette who won’t get cinder city buff against bosses if she can’t proc freeze reaction. Unless the cinder city buff still applies there, Idk for sure, I don’t have Neuvi.)
@@Zeke1460I’m confused as to how a team performing no reactions with only 20% res shred is out performing a standard vape or forward melt team. Citlali’s burst is good but it ain’t that good to make up for the damage lost against bosses.
@@knightofcarrion7358 Yeah the Furina and Xilonen core is broken and Citlali by herself can’t match that. Furina Xilonen would probably be Arle’s best comp if she didn’t literally work against Furina. I don’t know why people and hoyoverse keep trying to rate these vapemelt teams we have to stop coping it’s not gonna work. They should add the cryo res to her kit makee her shield better and add her C1 or C2 to her base kit.
she's INCREDIBLY funny, so glad she turned out the way she did i didn't expect to like her so much finally they're tryna do something with cryo 😭here's hoping she succeeds
Here i abandon my mavuika savings. The second I saw citlali in the archon quest, i forgot all about the archon herself and now citlali is my must pull.
PLEASE LET CHARLOTTE BE ON HER BANNER PLEASE LET CHARLOTTE BE ON HER BANNER AAASAUHDSUGDUFAEU I DONT EVEN KNOW ANYHTING ABOUT HER BUT I SAW HER GAMEPLAY AND MY GOSH HER SNIMATIONS ARE THE CUTEST EVER I DONT HAVE ENOUGH PRIMOS FOR CHARLOTTE AND CITLALI GUHHHSDHSBBFK
also i read her c2 and its like they mashed what makes diona, layla, and charlotte good together. 40% hydro/pyro shred, 250 em from shield, (though due to the weak shield this could be clunky), 48% atk buff from ttds, AND a 40% dmg buff from scroll, plus a good r1 weapon. (oh her c1 also provides dmg buffs based on her em) i think hoyo realized they make more money off of characters that are good at c0 and break the game with cons, rather than mid at c0 and becomes good with cons (im looking at you chiori and sigewinne.....)
3:15 if you put sac on her it'll be a 13k hp shield and you can refresh it if it runs out which you'd want to do anyway cause her artifact set buff lasts way less than 20 seconds so it would be double that which is 26k... that's almost zhongli level ..but it does require you to get lucky with sac proc Giving her fav instead seams unfair here
It bothers me how Hoyo is going out of their way to make physical worse, JUST MAKE CITLALI REDUCE PHYSICAL RES WHEN THERES ELECTRO PLEASE 😭 Give Eula and Freminet something
That would give Eula nothing. Eula has 2 issues. One is that too much damage comes from her burst, which has a 20s cooldown and takes 6s to charge up, 6s during which a lot can change. It's a burst with fundamental issues, and about the only way to somewhat mitigate that impact would be to give a Xilonen C2 Electro-like effect, where someone reduces the cooldown of bursts that do physical damage, while also providing energy. The second issue is superconduct, which pushes phys into cryo and electro. That, combined with poor elemental application, makes for bad shield breaking, and that hoses phys teams. This is part of why Furina is good for physical... she provides decent hydro app, which improves the shield breaking, in addition to doing non-physical damage and also buffing everyone. Basically, Eula is borked unless they specifically make a character to fix her (and have it designed by someone who actually understands physical's issues, not the person who made Mika), and phys is hosed unless they change what superconduct does, how physical interacts with elemental shields, and just add a bunch more physical characters. Which is pretty pointless, because physical is just an inferior geo.
@ they should still do it though, there’s literally no reason as to why they purposefully excluded superconduct, I get it, Eula sucks, but all I was asking for in my original comment was for Hoyo to not purposefully exclude physical
@@user-ot4ly9dp1c I know, I’m complaining about Citlali not buffing physical, I’m not saying she’d fix physical if she did buff it, a electro physical sub dps sounds really nice, let’s hope lol
word of advice; asking people to like and subscribe if they are entertained at any point during the video first thing out of the gate doesn't help when the video hasn't even started yet, and by the time people know whether or not they like the video concept they have already forgotten that you asked them to like the video in the first place.
why would you use fav on citlali, just use sac frags to get another 24 additional nightsoul points and an almost free burst every rotation, she has no incentive to run fav
I don't care what people says.. She is the first ever Cryo Support Catalyst that can hold tha Dragon slayer to buff a pyro DPS. that also applies cryo to enemies consistently. a shield is just a bonus.
Another stupid kit design by Hoyo. They should make both granny and grandson have some kind of synergy in her kit so there's a benefit in using both of them, and maybe they could add something that will buff superconduct.
I like how she buffs Cryo reactions but it's kinda sad that she helps with Melt and Freeze but not Superconduct??? It's not even that difficult and I don't understand why. I personally like how she focuses more on off-field damage and buffing rather than shielding so that she doesn't encroach as much on Layla's territory.
I do love her design, character and gameplay but from what I've seen it sounds like that she is too situational to even bother. It's a shame. If I don't use a Hydro or Pyro DPS there is no reason to pull her...
I feel like half the people say she's goated and the other half say she's bordering on standard banner character, feels like they will either nerf her so she becomes a true standard banner character or buff/change parts of her kit to fit her limited status more. If the former happens I'll uninstall the game.
You don't need to melt on your pyro DPS with citlali , she actually have nice sub DPS especially in her burst when melted , you can run mavuika Bennett citlali xilonen and melt citlali hits instead
i love this videos !! your guides are great, that said you want to pronounce her name more akin to its "supposed" to be pronounced, the first syllable isn't sea-tlali it's more sit-lali. there's an emphasis on the penultimate syllable
@@FliponYT feels like half of her passive desription is missing it should reduce cryo electro and phys as well and by a larger amount, this way she is incredibly nieche and just a buff to some of the strongest characters that already have really good options its the most boring thing in the world, for arle it will literally translate to 2 second faster clear time when we have characters in the game that absolutely have nothing and one good targeted support could halve their clear time. Like im getting c2r1 mavuika i am supposed to be the target audience but i feel like citlali is worthless to me, and on the other hand my eula still doesn't have a single good teamate let alone a full team
@@erronblack3462I agree about the cryo electro and pyhs shred if they were to increase her shred it probably be 10 percent as she has access to cinder city and a shield and Cryo application also eula is 10 feet under nothing can save her
She doesnt buff cryo? What the actual fck, I thought i would get a Shenhe replacement in Ayaka freeze cuz Shenhe aint getting a rerun anytime soon, so yeah she is mid in cryo main dps teams
Since citlali doesn't apply enough cryo to enable forward melt by herself , I could easily see them releasing a new 5 star cryo sub dps that has the same application as Rosaria but with alot more dmg like chiori. This new character + citlali would basically be a double cryo core that's especially strong for forward melt. Tho then again citlali doesn't shred cryo so idk...
I'm excited for her c2 buffing capabilities being as good or even better than c2 kazuha and c2 xilonen while being a shielder. Might be my Hutao's peak with c2 citlali, yelan, c6 furina. Heck she'll be so nice with Yoimiya, finally a strong shielder character while being a damage increase for her.
Idk what the hell happened to the artifact set we usually get on the x.3 patch, but she desperately needs it. Hopefully it'll at least come in 5.4 and she can use it
@starbiiy thing is artifact sets always leak when the beta goes live because its in the beta files. Everything is pointing towards no set in 5.3, but this patch has been so weird with no drip marketing and no artifact set in the first place that i wouldn't completely discount the possibility of them adding it in one of the beta updates or the actual patch.
Could I use Kazuha's cryo-infusion burst; with Citlali; to be able to melt Arlecchino attacks; without Rosaria? Also you forgot to mention that Arlecchino gets Cryo resonance; paired with Rosaria, and Citlali.
Not gonna lie, for a hydro main like me, thats actually interested, and once I tried doing a team for Klee with melt and didnt work, maybe if I do Klee + Charlotte + Citlali that could work, that also solve all the sustain issues, and I could finish with an anemo of a second pyro character
Klee has the fastest on field pyro application in the game. You cannot even reverse vape with klee without double hydro so double cryo for forward melt will not work with klee.
Seems like she didn’t save cryo, but rather, she saved herself from cryo. I was honestly looking forward to her more than Mavuika, even before leaks appeared
Gonna get citlali c1 full em gilded dream build for freeze. Furina, neuvillette, and mualani scroll set. I was hoping for mono hydro but....i dont mind it that much. I will pretend just like in avatar the last air bender. Water benders can control the temperature of water
You want to pull Granny because she’s cute. I wanna pull for Granny because she can be a Xilonen replacement for my Mualani so my Neuvillette will get Xilonen. We are not the same.
As a wrio main , previously ayaka main …I don’t know if I should be sad that my granny wifu will have no synergy with them …😭😭😭 what is that water coming out of my eyes!
@@dacarious8871 Baizhu's shield is thinner than his arm, it might as well not exist. They could just put a resistance to interruption somewhere in his kit and delete his shield and almost nothing will feel different
I know it's nto the main point of the video but It was SUPER DUPER funny to me how you got Itzpapa's name wrong and said Itzpapapa (3x pa) LIKE SODIJFOSDIJFDI ESPECIALLY AT 1:28 I LOVE HOW YOU SAID IT
I heard you say you respond to almost every single comment 👀 Whats up. I really like your videos because they make boring ass guides actually fun I really love citlali as a character, easily the best theyve written so far but these usecases seem a bit too niche and for characters i dont have Im already planning to pull xilonen on her rerun for neuvillette so there goes that usecase. I was hoping she'd be a viable shielder for my hu tao but no dice Everyone kept telling me kinich would be buffed when mavuika drops cuz shes gonna be a sub dps. WHY IS SHE A MAIN DPS
Thank you so much I’m glad! But yea Citlali is quite niche unfortunately for characters that aren’t Chasca, pyro dps or Neuv and Mualani, not a very generalist pull that someone like Furina Kazuha or Xilonen are. In regards to Kinich, Mavuika CAN be used as an off field dps in which she enables the best Kinich team currently if you have Emilie Kinich/Mavuika/Bennett/Emilie The only issue with this team is that you may struggle to apply scrol past the first rotation due to not being able to re proc burning. But besides that this is a very noticeable upgrade to Kinich teams over Xiangling currently which is great.
@@FliponYT Its kinda ironic how kinich mainly focuses on single target while the scroll reproc is a weakness his current best pyro support has, which is less of a problem in multitarget. Also I don't have emilie XD Another character to add to the list....
Honestly, at the moment she seems rather unappealing. Weak shield. 20% resist debuff, but conditional. Stuck between wanting EM to hit hard, but then you'd want crit stats. Another Natlan character that gets much of its value from the Scroll set. Beyond that, whale bait, because cons and her weapon.
Just for my peace of mind if citlali remains to have just Pyro and hydro shred she would be a good partner for c2 chasca in a team including her and citlali plus dehya/xilonen, furina/Charlotte and shenhe/bennet? Those all feel like they could succeed with citlalis freeze melt buffs
She’s a traitor for not shredding her own element, like what the fuck were they thinking? Instead she does for the two that do NOT need any more help.
I DONT GET IT
Emilie and Kinich are Pyro characters just like Citlali is, the color of your element dont determine your identity
@@WildspeakerYTOp meant their own cryo element. Citlali doesnt shred Cryo res, only pyro and hydro
She's balanced around not powercreeping Shenhe in her own niche. They want Shenhe to retain being the flagship cryo carry buffer, while Citlali is the one you pair with hydro & pyro carries.
The hydro one is the most strange, with Citlali maybe you can actually run a forward melt team, but for freeze? Like you use her as solo cry and let the hydro characters do the job? (Aka neuvillette probably).
Buff to cryo ❌
Buff to neuv, mualani, arlecchino, mavuika ✅
I really like her but the fact that she doesn't so ANYTHING for cryo instead buffs the top2 elements (which do not need anymore buffing) is a huge L.
As an Ayaya main, this chara has shattered my hopes and dream 😭😭
HYV surely keeps anything related to Cryo buffing to Tsaritsa, just be patient fellow Ayaka's lover. Anyway, I think she will be a good alternative for ZL in Hu-Tao's team. I will get Citlali regardless as I still prefer her kits over too biased Mavuika's.
@@walnutlover6510yeah, i think Cyro related buff will be left for endgame.
The problem is they will be added with new additional mechanic and not traditional cyro damage
All ten of us remaining Eula fans are malding that she wasn't the Superconduct buffer that early leaks had us believe. Maybe in Schneznaya r-right guys?
She may not be a superconduct buffer, but I am curious to see if any superconduct teams come from her just on the basis she is an em scaler
as one of the last surviving Eula mains, im still coping...
@@spice2688 that would be stupid. The superconduct reaction buff does nothing meta wise.
@@luckasneo2089 I never said it would meta, but there could be some viable teams to come from it that could be fun
I'm still coping
Time for Plunge Citlali cause she has that high jump mechanic
Cloud Retainer approves.
Oh imma be doing some plunging with Citlali alright 😏
(I need help unclogging my sink)
The only reason I can think of for why Hoyo didn't give her a Cryo res shred is because they'd know they'd be making Shenhe fully redundant if she had it. I know "Shenhe rerun never" and all of that, but I feel like they still want to play up the illusion of Shenhe being the go-to Cryo/Freeze Buffer.
I think Hoyoverse would rather make mo' money. And Shenhe doesn't make money, hence why she hasn't re-run. So I'm sure they'd happily powercreep in a heartbeat. But not with Citlali, who is another character in the current trend of "play with a select few other elements", that we've seen in quite a few recent characters, from the PECH dependent (Navia, Xilonen, Chasca) to the burn related (Emilie, Kinich) as well as ones that really want certain reactions (Mual, Ororon).
@Axterix That’s so BS when they literally reran characters that had more poor sales than Wriothesley
I'd say Wriothesley could use a support, but they have to release him first.
Mavuika is great for him
@FliponYT Praise be the Pyro Archon
Wriothesley ? Woah! Never heard of him before! Bet he's like a... Cryo main DPS! When does he come out ?/j
I’m hoping she gets cryo shred in the future betas.
I have come to make an announcement I am stupid and forgot to watch the full video. On the other hand THEY NEED TO GIVE HER CRYO SHRED PLEASE. It’s so weird that she buffs freeze but there isn’t cryo shred in her kit. Also cryo needs the buffs
because she dont buff freeze, that clause is to say that she's playable on teams with hydro and cryo in plus of pyro, just like Kinich saying burning and burgeon and not burning only, this also helps for when you fight an enemy with an hydro shield so your buff doesnt turn off bc you cannot melt a permanent hydro shield, just for how Kinich dont get bricked against hydro shield bc burgeon also helps him to trigger his passive
as much as i agree, i dont see hoyo doing that because shenhe exists. that would make citlali buff cryo almost the same as shenhe (20% res shred + 40 dmg%) while having a sheild on top of that
@@lmars12 she already hold scroll by existing, shut up ICANT her artifact set is already better than shenhe XD
@@lmars12 Yeah she "exists". Somewhere shut in behind the gates of rerun Cryo hell.
They don't want to obliterate Shenhe Xd. If Citlali lowers Cryo Res, then Shenhe would be absolutely useless.
Citloli is my most anticipated character since Dehya.
Hey at least your standards will be low
@toodled1340 What standards are low? They both fine as heck.
@@toodled1340who hurts you ?
I see what you did there.
She doesn’t save cryo , she saved herself from cryo 😂
Well if you think about it that's what Xilonen and Navia did too.
Hoyo hates cryo so much that they dont include cryo shred on cryo characters (also funny to think that cryo dmg is buffed on C6 which is scummy)
How can you call her the first elemental mastery shielder when Kachina is right there?
LMAOO
By that logic, Albedo is the first EM shielder. He even has an EM buff.
@@philkersonchong9848ningguang would be the OG
Thankfully she's a good support , she's by far my favourite character in natlan and i didn't want to bench her if she was average main DPS
She is NOT a melt-focused character. She’s meant to enable SOME melts on a VAPE-focused team. That’s why she reduces hydro res, not cryo res. And her cryo application once every 2 seconds is not enough for consistent forward melt, even with Arlecchino, who has slower pyro application.
(She can still work in Freeze and Melt teams, but those don’t make full use of the buffs she gives.)
She’s meant to be a buffer for vape Mavuika, Vape Arlecchino, or Vape Hu Tao. With Yelan or Xingqiu doing the hydro damage. Or forward Vape Mualani, as mentioned in the video.
And her damage amp will be lower than Xilonen or Kazuha. She’s meant to be a sidegrade to Zhongli that can make use of cinder city artifact set. So you still have some defensive utility while getting MOST of the damage amps. Her teams won’t do as much as Kazuha or Xilonen, but the occasional melts will buff damage as well, and still make her a very solid option.
And no, melt arelcchino with 2 cryo units will not be arlecchino’s best team. That’s still Arlecchino vape with Yelan, Kazuha/Xilonen, Bennett. She loses too much damage% by replacing yelan or Kazuha/Xilonen with rosaria or Kaeya. It can work for c6 arlecchino nuke teams, but for everyone else, sticking to vape is better.
The only issue with this is that Vapemelt doesn’t function against bosses as you can’t have a frozen aura and therefore unless you use a fast hydro applicator pyro aura is extremely likely to overtake.
And even against freezable enemies currently double cryo enables perfect forward melts for both arle and mavuika which just outdamages most of their other team options while not getting gimped for bosses so I feel more comfortable recommending them
@@FliponYTfair enough. I don’t think the math adds up to actually make forward melt stronger than Vape over the course of an entire rotation due to all the damage% losses you’re taking by not having Kazuha/Xilonen and Yelan’s damage amp. But for shorter rotations and nuke comps, melt can work very well for them.
Edit: Also, freezemelt doesn’t have to function against bosses for Citlali to be good in a vape team. She can trigger reverse-melt herself off the pyro aura to give the enemy hydro and pyro res shred. And since it lasts 12 seconds, you get that for most of your rotation. (Though this does suck a little for hydro main dps characters like neuvillette who won’t get cinder city buff against bosses if she can’t proc freeze reaction. Unless the cinder city buff still applies there, Idk for sure, I don’t have Neuvi.)
@@Zeke1460I’m confused as to how a team performing no reactions with only 20% res shred is out performing a standard vape or forward melt team. Citlali’s burst is good but it ain’t that good to make up for the damage lost against bosses.
@@knightofcarrion7358 Yeah the Furina and Xilonen core is broken and Citlali by herself can’t match that. Furina Xilonen would probably be Arle’s best comp if she didn’t literally work against Furina. I don’t know why people and hoyoverse keep trying to rate these vapemelt teams we have to stop coping it’s not gonna work. They should add the cryo res to her kit makee her shield better and add her C1 or C2 to her base kit.
@@Kukiseiisn't she running cinder city for the 40 percent damage buff
she's INCREDIBLY funny, so glad she turned out the way she did i didn't expect to like her so much
finally they're tryna do something with cryo 😭here's hoping she succeeds
"tryna do something with cryo" yeah... by buffing hydro and pyro without doing anything for her fellow cryo's
Here i abandon my mavuika savings. The second I saw citlali in the archon quest, i forgot all about the archon herself and now citlali is my must pull.
Cap
how irony is she is being Cryo but she doesn't buff cryo at all till C6. And that to at C6 its just 60% Cryo DMG bonus 😂😂😂.
PLEASE LET CHARLOTTE BE ON HER BANNER PLEASE LET CHARLOTTE BE ON HER BANNER AAASAUHDSUGDUFAEU
I DONT EVEN KNOW ANYHTING ABOUT HER BUT I SAW HER GAMEPLAY AND MY GOSH HER SNIMATIONS ARE THE CUTEST EVER I DONT HAVE ENOUGH PRIMOS FOR CHARLOTTE AND CITLALI GUHHHSDHSBBFK
CHARLOTTE IS THE GOAT YES
another neuvilette buff because he isnt strong enough and doesnt have 20+ supports 😀
Surely he'll be good now right
"the rich get richer" ahh meta
also i read her c2 and its like they mashed what makes diona, layla, and charlotte good together. 40% hydro/pyro shred, 250 em from shield, (though due to the weak shield this could be clunky), 48% atk buff from ttds, AND a 40% dmg buff from scroll, plus a good r1 weapon. (oh her c1 also provides dmg buffs based on her em)
i think hoyo realized they make more money off of characters that are good at c0 and break the game with cons, rather than mid at c0 and becomes good with cons (im looking at you chiori and sigewinne.....)
Yes her C2 is insane gonna talk about it more later
skipvuika and skiplali
please save the teyvat society goat-him-tano
I would like to see a scene where Citilali and Eula get drunk together. That could be hilarious.
And Faruzan, probably :D
But Eula is underage compared to Cit-loli ICANT
Wtf is the point of buffing hydro for freeze?!
10 Neuvillion more supports for Neuvillette
So she can buff Furina carry in an Ayaka support team.
Ayato was tired of catching strays or something
Watching this video like i wasn't gonna pull her just because i want my granny
didnt watch but shes the best character in the game
Real and true
After furina and fischl ofcourse
we all grabbed c0r1 for papitano iktr
3:15 if you put sac on her it'll be a 13k hp shield and you can refresh it if it runs out which you'd want to do anyway cause her artifact set buff lasts way less than 20 seconds so it would be double that which is 26k... that's almost zhongli level
..but it does require you to get lucky with sac proc
Giving her fav instead seams unfair here
i think the idea of giving her Fav is that shes likely to be solo cryo and needs the ER badly
He sounds exactly like juice, it’s scary
flip im starting to think that this citlali GILF bit isnt a joke anymore
Me and the other 9 Chasca mains are definitely looking forward to her.
It bothers me how Hoyo is going out of their way to make physical worse, JUST MAKE CITLALI REDUCE PHYSICAL RES WHEN THERES ELECTRO PLEASE 😭 Give Eula and Freminet something
That would give Eula nothing. Eula has 2 issues. One is that too much damage comes from her burst, which has a 20s cooldown and takes 6s to charge up, 6s during which a lot can change. It's a burst with fundamental issues, and about the only way to somewhat mitigate that impact would be to give a Xilonen C2 Electro-like effect, where someone reduces the cooldown of bursts that do physical damage, while also providing energy. The second issue is superconduct, which pushes phys into cryo and electro. That, combined with poor elemental application, makes for bad shield breaking, and that hoses phys teams. This is part of why Furina is good for physical... she provides decent hydro app, which improves the shield breaking, in addition to doing non-physical damage and also buffing everyone.
Basically, Eula is borked unless they specifically make a character to fix her (and have it designed by someone who actually understands physical's issues, not the person who made Mika), and phys is hosed unless they change what superconduct does, how physical interacts with elemental shields, and just add a bunch more physical characters. Which is pretty pointless, because physical is just an inferior geo.
@ they should still do it though, there’s literally no reason as to why they purposefully excluded superconduct, I get it, Eula sucks, but all I was asking for in my original comment was for Hoyo to not purposefully exclude physical
Physical doesn’t need res shred. It needs more team variety, like more sub DPS characters.
@@user-ot4ly9dp1c I know, I’m complaining about Citlali not buffing physical, I’m not saying she’d fix physical if she did buff it, a electro physical sub dps sounds really nice, let’s hope lol
word of advice; asking people to like and subscribe if they are entertained at any point during the video first thing out of the gate doesn't help when the video hasn't even started yet, and by the time people know whether or not they like the video concept they have already forgotten that you asked them to like the video in the first place.
Flip be honest did you wish you were Ororon when he got punched by her
I wish she would rip off my legs 🙏
@@FliponYT Haven’t heard of such fetish but ok
a 5 star version of C6 diona
Basically lmao
why would you use fav on citlali, just use sac frags to get another 24 additional nightsoul points and an almost free burst every rotation, she has no incentive to run fav
RAAAAAH I LOVE CRYO GILFS
Why the f she doesn't shred Cryo!?, Mihoyo really hate us.
Freeze in jail until Tsaritsa, fml.
I don't care what people says..
She is the first ever Cryo Support Catalyst that can hold tha Dragon slayer to buff a pyro DPS. that also applies cryo to enemies consistently.
a shield is just a bonus.
The fact that she doesn't work with superconduct makes me really sad
Another stupid kit design by Hoyo. They should make both granny and grandson have some kind of synergy in her kit so there's a benefit in using both of them, and maybe they could add something that will buff superconduct.
Can she shatter? Otherwise her EM is completely wasted on freeze no?
I like how she buffs Cryo reactions but it's kinda sad that she helps with Melt and Freeze but not Superconduct??? It's not even that difficult and I don't understand why.
I personally like how she focuses more on off-field damage and buffing rather than shielding so that she doesn't encroach as much on Layla's territory.
She does work with superconduct with her EM scaling for her shield and that weak reaction.
She should still buff cryo and maybe add C1 in her base kit.
I do love her design, character and gameplay but from what I've seen it sounds like that she is too situational to even bother.
It's a shame.
If I don't use a Hydro or Pyro DPS there is no reason to pull her...
yo my ngga is she op for mavuika or sum shi?
I feel like half the people say she's goated and the other half say she's bordering on standard banner character, feels like they will either nerf her so she becomes a true standard banner character or buff/change parts of her kit to fit her limited status more. If the former happens I'll uninstall the game.
You don't need to melt on your pyro DPS with citlali , she actually have nice sub DPS especially in her burst when melted , you can run mavuika Bennett citlali xilonen and melt citlali hits instead
No one talking bout that, Citlali burst it's actually wild. One of the best nukes in the game, best offielder nuke in the game tho.
i love this videos !! your guides are great, that said you want to pronounce her name more akin to its "supposed" to be pronounced, the first syllable isn't sea-tlali it's more sit-lali. there's an emphasis on the penultimate syllable
Thank you! I’ll try to pronounce it better in the next videos moving forward since I’m gonna talk about her alot.
Oh yeah? Well can she help my xingqiu quadvape? No? ok then idc, Citlayla, sausage fingers, drunk grandma, fraud, 5* diona
Get a load of this guy
personally I think shes very mid just kinda like zhongli but has a decent nuke downside is the shield is weaker and she only really goes on vap teams
Her melt teams look really nice too
her design is amazing too bad her is kit is the most dissapointing in years for me maybe ever
Why so?
@@FliponYT feels like half of her passive desription is missing it should reduce cryo electro and phys as well and by a larger amount, this way she is incredibly nieche and just a buff to some of the strongest characters that already have really good options its the most boring thing in the world, for arle it will literally translate to 2 second faster clear time when we have characters in the game that absolutely have nothing and one good targeted support could halve their clear time. Like im getting c2r1 mavuika i am supposed to be the target audience but i feel like citlali is worthless to me, and on the other hand my eula still doesn't have a single good teamate let alone a full team
@@erronblack3462I agree about the cryo electro and pyhs shred if they were to increase her shred it probably be 10 percent as she has access to cinder city and a shield and Cryo application also eula is 10 feet under nothing can save her
*Laughs in C6 Layla haver*
(Yes ik Layla can't match up to Citlali, but I am not about to let my efforts go to waste)
4:31 i didn tthink about building her for ayato but now i will i love ayato
She doesnt buff cryo? What the actual fck, I thought i would get a Shenhe replacement in Ayaka freeze cuz Shenhe aint getting a rerun anytime soon, so yeah she is mid in cryo main dps teams
Since citlali doesn't apply enough cryo to enable forward melt by herself , I could easily see them releasing a new 5 star cryo sub dps that has the same application as Rosaria but with alot more dmg like chiori. This new character + citlali would basically be a double cryo core that's especially strong for forward melt. Tho then again citlali doesn't shred cryo so idk...
I'm excited for her c2 buffing capabilities being as good or even better than c2 kazuha and c2 xilonen while being a shielder. Might be my Hutao's peak with c2 citlali, yelan, c6 furina. Heck she'll be so nice with Yoimiya, finally a strong shielder character while being a damage increase for her.
So what I'm hearing is skip mavuika and pull citlali for chasca
Do you know if her signature is an upgrade over Yanfei's other weps on vape teams?
It could not only be, but also an upgrade for Tankfei (if you can actually recharge her).
I’ll calculate it and get back to you, probably in my banner review video
Her normal attacks do fuck all LOL I SNORTED
I call it, Citlali’s stock will be Genshin bitcoin, buy now or cry for waste potential latter.
Mavuika will rerun in 4 patches anyway.
Idk what the hell happened to the artifact set we usually get on the x.3 patch, but she desperately needs it. Hopefully it'll at least come in 5.4 and she can use it
Maybe there is one and we’ll find out about it in the livestream??? Possibly I hope
@starbiiy thing is artifact sets always leak when the beta goes live because its in the beta files. Everything is pointing towards no set in 5.3, but this patch has been so weird with no drip marketing and no artifact set in the first place that i wouldn't completely discount the possibility of them adding it in one of the beta updates or the actual patch.
Im very excited for Chasca Shenhe Mavuika Citlali
Yet another Cryo shielder... we have enough of them to make a chair out if them.
They did Citlali dirty...
Could I use Kazuha's cryo-infusion burst; with Citlali; to be able to melt Arlecchino attacks; without Rosaria? Also you forgot to mention that Arlecchino gets Cryo resonance; paired with Rosaria, and Citlali.
Y does she have a 4star c6…
The best char in the archon patch is not the archon?!?!?!?!?
Itz-PAW-PAW-PAW
PAH PAH PAH🗣️
Not gonna lie, for a hydro main like me, thats actually interested, and once I tried doing a team for Klee with melt and didnt work, maybe if I do Klee + Charlotte + Citlali that could work, that also solve all the sustain issues, and I could finish with an anemo of a second pyro character
Klee has the fastest on field pyro application in the game. You cannot even reverse vape with klee without double hydro so double cryo for forward melt will not work with klee.
They fixed the bug on her burst animation😰😰😰😭
Citlali wont shred Cryo cuz Hoyo still wants to sell Shenhe...eventually
My Grandma can't be this cute...
Seems like she didn’t save cryo, but rather, she saved herself from cryo.
I was honestly looking forward to her more than Mavuika, even before leaks appeared
Gonna get citlali c1 full em gilded dream build for freeze. Furina, neuvillette, and mualani scroll set. I was hoping for mono hydro but....i dont mind it that much. I will pretend just like in avatar the last air bender. Water benders can control the temperature of water
“Longer than i would last” 😂
You want to pull Granny because she’s cute.
I wanna pull for Granny because she can be a Xilonen replacement for my Mualani so my Neuvillette will get Xilonen.
We are not the same.
As a wrio main , previously ayaka main …I don’t know if I should be sad that my granny wifu will have no synergy with them …😭😭😭 what is that water coming out of my eyes!
That 20 second you made where you cut yourself off kinda be cursed ngl mate
😭
Why you sound like the juice genshin RUclipsr(the way you start the video)😅
Low-key lol
0:02 A bit off topic but bro tell me why Flip sounds EXACTLY like "Juice" here when it comes to his tonation and choice of words lmfao
Guys stop praising her, they will nerf her....
Don’t worry I’m here to balance it out with my doomposting
Another Neuvillette support? Really?
I wonder could she work with wriothesely melt team?
Currently no due to no cryo shred
days where flip hasn't used sonic music in his video: 1
Bro😭
cryo every 2sec? that might be enough to enable gaming melt ?
honestly she doesnt even seem good. maybe at most a few percentage point gain over what we have previously.
FLOPTANS FLOP CHARACTERSS
I love older women 🗣🗣🗣🗣
Also its funny Citlali is our first 5 star shielder since, no joke, 1.1.
Its been far too long.
Baizhu crying in the corner
@@dacarious8871 Baizhu's shield is thinner than his arm, it might as well not exist. They could just put a resistance to interruption somewhere in his kit and delete his shield and almost nothing will feel different
we are living in a fever dream
I know it's nto the main point of the video but It was SUPER DUPER funny to me how you got Itzpapa's name wrong and said Itzpapapa (3x pa) LIKE SODIJFOSDIJFDI ESPECIALLY AT 1:28 I LOVE HOW YOU SAID IT
I heard you say you respond to almost every single comment 👀
Whats up. I really like your videos because they make boring ass guides actually fun
I really love citlali as a character, easily the best theyve written so far but these usecases seem a bit too niche and for characters i dont have
Im already planning to pull xilonen on her rerun for neuvillette so there goes that usecase. I was hoping she'd be a viable shielder for my hu tao but no dice
Everyone kept telling me kinich would be buffed when mavuika drops cuz shes gonna be a sub dps. WHY IS SHE A MAIN DPS
Thank you so much I’m glad!
But yea Citlali is quite niche unfortunately for characters that aren’t Chasca, pyro dps or Neuv and Mualani, not a very generalist pull that someone like Furina Kazuha or Xilonen are.
In regards to Kinich, Mavuika CAN be used as an off field dps in which she enables the best Kinich team currently if you have Emilie
Kinich/Mavuika/Bennett/Emilie
The only issue with this team is that you may struggle to apply scrol past the first rotation due to not being able to re proc burning. But besides that this is a very noticeable upgrade to Kinich teams over Xiangling currently which is great.
@@FliponYT Its kinda ironic how kinich mainly focuses on single target while the scroll reproc is a weakness his current best pyro support has, which is less of a problem in multitarget. Also I don't have emilie XD
Another character to add to the list....
Honestly, at the moment she seems rather unappealing. Weak shield. 20% resist debuff, but conditional. Stuck between wanting EM to hit hard, but then you'd want crit stats. Another Natlan character that gets much of its value from the Scroll set. Beyond that, whale bait, because cons and her weapon.
Obviously for forward melt teams which will run bennett anyway.
She’s cryo so will pull her before she vanishes until next region
LMAO
Is mavuika furina citlali and jean good
🤔 Should i use gilded set on her ?
What should I do with Citlali if I don't have 4.X and 5.X dps characters?
More like another way for them for say “we hate Ayaka lmao 🗣️” 💀🗿
I would be happy if her shield is as good as Zhongli or better.
Just for my peace of mind if citlali remains to have just Pyro and hydro shred she would be a good partner for c2 chasca in a team including her and citlali plus dehya/xilonen, furina/Charlotte and shenhe/bennet?
Those all feel like they could succeed with citlalis freeze melt buffs
Imo she should shred physical res, bc cryo alr has shenhe + she needs better shield
100 y/o? You are lowballing it 😭 😭