Yesterday I change my clutch with a home made tool similar to yours and everything goes well. Thank you very much for sharing this video with us, it was very helpful for me. Greetings from Argentina
have to say BIG thank you,fitted new Barnett Kevlar extra plate kit today using 3inch pvc pipe coupling that you used,6mm flat bar and 20 mm pvc pipe and couldn't believe how well it worked ,I saved 190 dollars Australian by not getting proper tool,btw Barnett clutch works soooooooooo well,again thank you for video
Thanks for the idea. I had to double up on my scrap metal brace across the middle because it bent. Another issue everyone needs to be aware of is to use a screwdriver that fits the flat head of the adjuster perfectly. You end up holding that screw while wrenching the 3/4" nut and it's really easy to pecker up the adjuster bolt if you're using too thin of a flathead. I was successful in my clutch change though, so thanks!
The most important thing here is the transverse pressure plate with a hole. it must be strong, because if it is made of ordinary metal, then it bends easily when the nut is tightened on the rod.
i just did this earlier today. i made the pvc ring 7/8'' wide. had a thin 3/16 piece of steel to compress the spring, bent right away. used a 3/8'' piece, slightly bent but worked ok. for a buck fifty it saved me 50.00$$ nice help dude. = two liters of whiskey !!!
Thanks heaps mate! Just so happens I'm an engineer and install meal feed systems in South New Zealand. I had pvc feed pipe and steel available in my work truck, managed to get it all done in a couple of hours. Cheers 🍻 big help 😁👍
I just put a clutch in my 90 sportster, I got the barnett clutch kit and the heavy duty clutch spring, I even bought the tool to compress the spring. come to find out I got the wrong tool, then found out the clutch wasn't installed properly prior to me purchasing the bike. So in the end I ended up making a tool out of a 3 1/2" post cap from chain link fence and a few other pieces to make it work. I put the new clutch in so I could get rid of the spring plate and installed the new clutch spring. Repainted my primary cover and replaced the seals, O rings and gasket, and bob's your uncle now my clutch works. The only thing I can figure out is because mine is a 4 speed it has a different setup, the clutch friction disks and steels were the same. It really didn't need a clutch, someone had been in there before I bought the bike and put the outside spring seat in backwards so the clutch didn't have much grip. I was able to ride it home but didn't ride it again until after I repaired the clutch. As for what I spent on the tool, that really doesn't matter, being a mechanic I buy lots of tools and deduct them on my taxes every year. Even my socks are deducted on my taxes because I buy them from snap on.
I did the same thing many years ago using an old lawnmower blade for the crossbar. I cut the extra metal off the blade using a zip disk on an angle grinder. Mower blades are relatively wide and quite stiff in the short length used. In an emergency you could use an intact mower blade then reinstall it on your mower.
Just canceled my amazon order for the specialty tool and was able to get it in before it shipped. Thank you Brother. I hate spending cash that I dont have to. edit: folks dont go to blowes! Home Depot or local store all the way.
This was awesome! Already had a piece of steel pipe instead of the PVC, but this worked extremely well, and like others said. MUCH better than spending cash on a specialty tool. Thank you for posting this!
If I may suggest, go to the Harley store and get a HD 3/8 drive "end cap oil filter wrench" for under $12. It makes a PERFECT spring compression tool for 1984-1990 Sportsters where the stator is behind the clutch! It fits on my '86 XLH 1100 Sportster. Find a 3/8-24 nut and screw it onto the clutch adjusting screw. be sure to add a drop of oil to the threads. Use a 1/4" #2 flat head screwdriver to compress the spring. DON'T TURN THE NUT, just hold it with a wrench. I would post a picture of it if I could.
You mean this one? www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-1-2-Drive-2-Way-3-Claw-Leg-Jaw-Oil-Filter-Wrench-Remover-63-102mm-Tool-/371514677302?hash=item5680001836:g:2b4AAOxy8e9SVmbX&item=371514677302&vxp=mtr
I ran into the same problem with my scrap metal bending. Ran to Home Depot and bought a hard metal stake (was kept near rebar). Was 18in long and a 1/4 in thick cut it to size with a die grinder and it worked like a charm. Was less than $4
These tools are proven for MANY years and there are many variations. Angle iron is stiffer than flat bar so if you're digging up scrap on a weekend to make one keep that in mind if ya have no 3/16" flat bar but do have thinner angle iron.
just a thought to those making this tool.enough people said they were having bending issues with the strap use a one and a half by one and a half 3/16 mild steel angle .there is enough room to turn the nut even with the angle flange facing up.i've made them all the way back to iron heads.made a set of PVC 6 speed tools work great
You need to share a link to a video of you actually using this- because my snap rings are not loose at all, ive cranked the fuck outta this, and I don't wanna break shit.
Ended up getting the tool and doing the job in a few minutes. The homemade one was freakin me out too much as this was my first clutch. Didn't know what to expect.
Use whatever ya like to remove and install the snap rings. The tool is a proven design bikers have been making since that style clutch came out. I found the video so I could send it to a bro instead of typing a book.
@@HilltopZombieShop What turned out to be even more interesting was that there was also a marking on the spring ring, which is installed first, from below, along with the friction disc.😊
Someone show me a video of this design actually working. I used to pieces of steel at 3/16 width. They are bent to shit and my snap ring is no where near loose enough to come off
+Matt Wetzel I had to compress the spring for my '96 1200S all the way flat to clear the fingers that hold onto the locking ring. My setup is a bit different than what's shown in the video. I only have one snap ring and then a continuous locking ring that sits loose on the assembly to hold the clutch spring in place. I really had to wrench on that adjuster nut to get enough compression, which meant really holding on for dear life to the flathead screwdriver. Next time I'm buying a real clutch tool so I don't break anything. I installed an Energy One +15% spring.
Okay, I used the pvc ring. Okay... I ditched the Barnett idea and experimented. Boy, am I glad I did. I just fixed my old HD 2006 Sportster clutch and spring plate problem and my bike runs better and shifts better than ever. How did I do it? I removed the pack of plates, found the exploded spring plate took it apart and kept the two steel rings. I then lined the two up as perfect as possible. I offset the original holes for the brass fasteners leaving no see-through holes. I took my MIG welder and tacked the smaller of the holes on both sides with about 4-second bursts tacking the two steel plates together. I then took my angle grinder and dressed them. I filed the ears so that the plate would mount like the single steel plates nice and smooth. I filed the inside of the basket where the damage was left by the original plate making sure no plates would hang up on any of the damaged areas. I then installed new fibers with the old steels making sure that the welded pressure plate would be "past" the damaged area when installed. I then put it all back together and took it for a ride. WOW! It shifted smoother quieter and grabbed very well. It was a trial thing and am I glad I did it. The only size difference is the thin springs that were between the two steel rings are gone and it had no effect... except a GREAT shifting clutch now! I did soak my fibers for 3 days before installing. One more thing... I adjusted the clutch 1/2 turn instead of 1/4!
Very interesting. I like the idea of welding those plates. If you got the touch to join them solid without burning through, I bet that would work awesome.
I used my HF FCAW set on 3.5 at 3 or 4 seconds. If I cleaned them with the angle grinder so they would be flat or less. It is working great. The fiber plates are full ring fiber, not the segmented ones.
@@HilltopZombieShop question 95 road put new clutches in clutch plate clip ring. Adjusted primary clutch screw and clutch cable. Pulled the clutch cable and blew the clutch spring across the room. Blew the clip holders apart. Have you had anything like that.
I would have killed for this idea. I belong to a motorcycle club and I am the road captain. When we were out one night the president bike started acting up. So he gave it to me to figure out what was wrong. Sure enough it was the clutch. He asked me was this something I could fix and I said absolutely. It wasn't until the next morning when I went out to my garage to start working on and realize I didn't have a clue how to remove his clutch. His bike was an older dresser with the Evo engine and mine was the new one twin cam 88. And that was easy for me to take apart. Anybody who knows me knows that I don't have a problem even working on something I never have before. After breaking the ears off of the basket. Lucky enough bike shop that I deal with had the new basket and I was able to give one of the mechanics a couple dollars to put the clutch back in the basket for me. That's when I saw the tool he used. I think what you came up with is genius. The cheapest I have ever seen it is $30. I already have a piece of and this size. Now I'm just going to pick up a piece of scrap steel form my friend of mine who owns a welding shop. Thanks for the tip. By the way I put the same clutch that you used in his bike. The guys at the shop recommended that clutch.
@@bobgibb2781 in most clubs there's always seems to be someone in the club that knows how to work on bikes. As a road captain I have always felt it's my responsibility to make sure that everyone's it's kept up to running order. When we are at bike events you can find me over working on a different club members bike. I'm just fortunate enough to have a large garage and most of the right tools to fix about anything with an engine.
You saved me $70 today! Thank you sir!
Yesterday I change my clutch with a home made tool similar to yours and everything goes well. Thank you very much for sharing this video with us, it was very helpful for me. Greetings from Argentina
Mario Marrazzo de nada
have to say BIG thank you,fitted new Barnett Kevlar extra plate kit today using 3inch pvc pipe coupling that you used,6mm flat bar and 20 mm pvc pipe and couldn't believe how well it worked ,I saved 190 dollars Australian by not getting proper tool,btw Barnett clutch works soooooooooo well,again thank you for video
Thank you so much, this really helped with my 94 softail clutch disassembly!
Hey I just wanted to say thanks for makin the video. The tool u showed us how to make worked very well. & u saved me time & $$ with this.
This was a HUGE lifesaver, thank you!
Doing the lords work over here
Thanks for the idea. I had to double up on my scrap metal brace across the middle because it bent. Another issue everyone needs to be aware of is to use a screwdriver that fits the flat head of the adjuster perfectly. You end up holding that screw while wrenching the 3/4" nut and it's really easy to pecker up the adjuster bolt if you're using too thin of a flathead. I was successful in my clutch change though, so thanks!
The most important thing here is the transverse pressure plate with a hole. it must be strong, because if it is made of ordinary metal, then it bends easily when the nut is tightened on the rod.
Great video man, and nice job on the paint job!
i just did this earlier today. i made the pvc ring 7/8'' wide. had a thin 3/16 piece of steel to compress the spring, bent right away. used a 3/8'' piece, slightly bent but worked ok. for a buck fifty it saved me 50.00$$ nice help dude. = two liters of whiskey !!!
Thanks heaps mate! Just so happens I'm an engineer and install meal feed systems in South New Zealand. I had pvc feed pipe and steel available in my work truck, managed to get it all done in a couple of hours. Cheers 🍻 big help 😁👍
Glad to help. I met a couple from New Zealand while on holiday in Italy one time. Best people I met in that country.
I just put a clutch in my 90 sportster, I got the barnett clutch kit and the heavy duty clutch spring, I even bought the tool to compress the spring. come to find out I got the wrong tool, then found out the clutch wasn't installed properly prior to me purchasing the bike. So in the end I ended up making a tool out of a 3 1/2" post cap from chain link fence and a few other pieces to make it work. I put the new clutch in so I could get rid of the spring plate and installed the new clutch spring. Repainted my primary cover and replaced the seals, O rings and gasket, and bob's your uncle now my clutch works. The only thing I can figure out is because mine is a 4 speed it has a different setup, the clutch friction disks and steels were the same. It really didn't need a clutch, someone had been in there before I bought the bike and put the outside spring seat in backwards so the clutch didn't have much grip. I was able to ride it home but didn't ride it again until after I repaired the clutch.
As for what I spent on the tool, that really doesn't matter, being a mechanic I buy lots of tools and deduct them on my taxes every year. Even my socks are deducted on my taxes because I buy them from snap on.
I did the same thing many years ago using an old lawnmower blade for the crossbar. I cut the extra metal off the blade using a zip disk on an angle grinder. Mower blades are relatively wide and quite stiff in the short length used. In an emergency you could use an intact mower blade then reinstall it on your mower.
😂
Just canceled my amazon order for the specialty tool and was able to get it in before it shipped. Thank you Brother. I hate spending cash that I dont have to.
edit: folks dont go to blowes! Home Depot or local store all the way.
Glad it helped!
Tool worked pretty well, saved some serious $$. Thanks.
Fantastic thanks for sharing, really appreciate it.. 👍🏻
tool worked. for some reason i had to double up on the 3/16 steel strap and it still bowed. but it worked.
Great video. Thanks
This was a lifesaver! Bought a compression tool off of eBay and the damn Chinese steel bolt sheared off after two turns
For real? that totally sux cuzi just ordered one for 36 bucks....well, if it does then i got this as backup, thx for the heads-up.
Very good job on the video!
This was awesome! Already had a piece of steel pipe instead of the PVC, but this worked extremely well, and like others said. MUCH better than spending cash on a specialty tool. Thank you for posting this!
BRILLIANT ! Thanks !!
Worked like a charm. You should patent it!
You are one of a kind!! Thx
Great info mate 👍
Thanks.
If I may suggest, go to the Harley store and get a HD 3/8 drive "end cap oil filter wrench" for under $12. It makes a PERFECT spring compression tool for 1984-1990 Sportsters where the stator is behind the clutch! It fits on my '86 XLH 1100 Sportster. Find a 3/8-24 nut and screw it onto the clutch adjusting screw. be sure to add a drop of oil to the threads. Use a 1/4" #2 flat head screwdriver to compress the spring. DON'T TURN THE NUT, just hold it with a wrench. I would post a picture of it if I could.
You mean this one?
www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-1-2-Drive-2-Way-3-Claw-Leg-Jaw-Oil-Filter-Wrench-Remover-63-102mm-Tool-/371514677302?hash=item5680001836:g:2b4AAOxy8e9SVmbX&item=371514677302&vxp=mtr
Trainin Grim www.harley-davidson.com/store/end-cap-oil-filter-wrench?source_cd=SEM_Shop_PLA&_cr=pla|Google|94863-10_10737&gclid=Cj0KEQjw9IS-BRC4qZXagbLs6uMBEiQAYHBh--JuMuMsAwntgT5mWS2v55JhUHIcAY55rafkYsZQOpcaAtN_8P8HAQ
If I could only post a picture of it in use
oh, i missed the part of 1984-1990
mine is 1995
Thanks for the tip. I'm going to try this over the weekend!
I ran into the same problem with my scrap metal bending. Ran to Home Depot and bought a hard metal stake (was kept near rebar). Was 18in long and a 1/4 in thick cut it to size with a die grinder and it worked like a charm. Was less than $4
did u make a clip of u actually using this system?
Might try a piece of angle instead of the flat bar if you're having trouble with it bending.
Beautiful. Thank you for saving me $85
Nice solution bro 🤟😎
These tools are proven for MANY years and there are many variations.
Angle iron is stiffer than flat bar so if you're digging up scrap on a weekend to make one keep that in mind if ya have no 3/16" flat bar but do have thinner angle iron.
just a thought to those making this tool.enough people said they were having bending issues with the strap use a one and a half by one and a half 3/16 mild steel angle .there is enough room to turn the nut even with the angle flange facing up.i've made them all the way back to iron heads.made a set of PVC 6 speed tools work great
You got any pictures
Ok got it now like a right angle steal bar
Great idea...but when I tried it, the adjusting shaft pulled completely out. WTF? How do I fix that?
Thinking of doing mine is the Barnett better than the Screamin Eagle the Harley sells anybody got any opinions
hat work for me thx mate
A meaningful video ! Im impressed hue tube hasn't replaced it with a useless one ! Thankyou much bro !
What’s the tread of the bolt where you put your puller
You need to share a link to a video of you actually using this- because my snap rings are not loose at all, ive cranked the fuck outta this, and I don't wanna break shit.
genious!!! thanks
How do you keep the adjustment screw
from turning while tightening the nut?
steven wooden You use a flathead screwdriver through the center of the nut. Hold the screwdriver still and turn the nut with a wrench.
Ended up getting the tool and doing the job in a few minutes. The homemade one was freakin me out too much as this was my first clutch. Didn't know what to expect.
Perfect❤
Hey just so everyone knows This doesn’t work with a upgraded diaphragm spring . It works well with the stock D spring .
Great improvised tool but I'm not sure about reaching in there and removing the snap rings and I definitely wouldn't use a screwdriver .
Use whatever ya like to remove and install the snap rings. The tool is a proven design bikers have been making since that style clutch came out. I found the video so I could send it to a bro instead of typing a book.
What is the two blue square marks at diaphragm spring? Didn't see this on aftermarket spring but see now at my spring
I'm not sure. They didn't seem to matter based on the shape of the spring plate. Maybe they color code the strength of the plate?
@@HilltopZombieShop What turned out to be even more interesting was that there was also a marking on the spring ring, which is installed first, from below, along with the friction disc.😊
I am using a 3/8 peice of steel and its bent all to hell and i still cant get the damn thing off
My question is... what size hole did you drill in the flat bar for the adjuster bolt?
Don't remember. Just held drill bits up to it until I found the bit slightly wider than the shaft.
Someone show me a video of this design actually working. I used to pieces of steel at 3/16 width. They are bent to shit and my snap ring is no where near loose enough to come off
Not 3/16 wide. 3/16 thick!
Hey, what size is an adjustment screw thread?
Thanks!
5/16 fine thread is what I just used ..
@@hotrod1ish think that's the same on 2002 victory v92tc?
How tight did you guys have to tighten the nut? I keep bending the scrap steel
Matt Wetzel Mine wasn't hard to tighten. My diaphram spring compessed with only slight bowing of the steel.
+Matt Wetzel I had to compress the spring for my '96 1200S all the way flat to clear the fingers that hold onto the locking ring. My setup is a bit different than what's shown in the video. I only have one snap ring and then a continuous locking ring that sits loose on the assembly to hold the clutch spring in place. I really had to wrench on that adjuster nut to get enough compression, which meant really holding on for dear life to the flathead screwdriver. Next time I'm buying a real clutch tool so I don't break anything. I installed an Energy One +15% spring.
Okay, I used the pvc ring.
Okay... I ditched the Barnett idea and experimented. Boy, am I glad I did.
I just fixed my old HD 2006 Sportster clutch and spring plate problem and my bike runs better and shifts better than ever. How did I do it? I removed the pack of plates, found the exploded spring plate took it apart and kept the two steel rings. I then lined the two up as perfect as possible. I offset the original holes for the brass fasteners leaving no see-through holes. I took my MIG welder and tacked the smaller of the holes on both sides with about 4-second bursts tacking the two steel plates together. I then took my angle grinder and dressed them. I filed the ears so that the plate would mount like the single steel plates nice and smooth. I filed the inside of the basket where the damage was left by the original plate making sure no plates would hang up on any of the damaged areas. I then installed new fibers with the old steels making sure that the welded pressure plate would be "past" the damaged area when installed. I then put it all back together and took it for a ride. WOW! It shifted smoother quieter and grabbed very well. It was a trial thing and am I glad I did it. The only size difference is the thin springs that were between the two steel rings are gone and it had no effect... except a GREAT shifting clutch now! I did soak my fibers for 3 days before installing. One more thing... I adjusted the clutch 1/2 turn instead of 1/4!
Very interesting. I like the idea of welding those plates. If you got the touch to join them solid without burning through, I bet that would work awesome.
I used my HF FCAW set on 3.5 at 3 or 4 seconds. If I cleaned them with the angle grinder so they would be flat or less. It is working great. The fiber plates are full ring fiber, not the segmented ones.
I FALLOWED WHAT HE SAID..BUT FOUND OUT REATHER THEN USE SOFT STEEL...YOU NEED TO USE STAINLESS STEEL...THAT WORKED
If clutch is operated properly, it will last along time. I have a Heritage Softail that has 70,000 on its original clutch.
Mike Fox completely different design then the sportster it's a known sportster problem that Harley refuses to improve. Proper maintenance won't matter
I did that and is is normal to make a weard sound whale taking off in first gear
way would any one give this thumbs down thanks not ever one can afford a $70 tool
参考になりました。 ｂｙ japan
Thanks for saving me $.....
The compression tool is online for 25 bucks
Are you still online doing videos
Yeah.
@@HilltopZombieShop question 95 road put new clutches in clutch plate clip ring. Adjusted primary clutch screw and clutch cable. Pulled the clutch cable and blew the clutch spring across the room. Blew the clip holders apart. Have you had anything like that.
@@robl6570 No. Sounds like the ring was not seated in the groove properly.
man does the mike have to bein neutral or somthing
I would have killed for this idea. I belong to a motorcycle club and I am the road captain. When we were out one night the president bike started acting up. So he gave it to me to figure out what was wrong. Sure enough it was the clutch. He asked me was this something I could fix and I said absolutely. It wasn't until the next morning when I went out to my garage to start working on and realize I didn't have a clue how to remove his clutch. His bike was an older dresser with the Evo engine and mine was the new one twin cam 88. And that was easy for me to take apart. Anybody who knows me knows that I don't have a problem even working on something I never have before. After breaking the ears off of the basket. Lucky enough bike shop that I deal with had the new basket and I was able to give one of the mechanics a couple dollars to put the clutch back in the basket for me. That's when I saw the tool he used. I think what you came up with is genius. The cheapest I have ever seen it is $30. I already have a piece of and this size. Now I'm just going to pick up a piece of scrap steel form my friend of mine who owns a welding shop. Thanks for the tip. By the way I put the same clutch that you used in his bike. The guys at the shop recommended that clutch.
Glad to help!
The president of a bike club has minions to fix his bike ?
@@bobgibb2781 in most clubs there's always seems to be someone in the club that knows how to work on bikes. As a road captain I have always felt it's my responsibility to make sure that everyone's it's kept up to running order. When we are at bike events you can find me over working on a different club members bike. I'm just fortunate enough to have a large garage and most of the right tools to fix about anything with an engine.
Since you enjoyed talking so much and trying to give detail you think you would have said how big the hole had to be in that piece of Steel
Bigger than the threaded hole in the adjustment nut, Troll.
I fucked mine up
did u make a clip of u actually using this system?