DISCLAIMER: This video and other videos on this channel (Jonas Marcinko) are for entertainment purposes only. All flight activities presented are performed in accordance with FAA regulations. Some flight activities shown and associated actions and statements by the pilot and copilot are ACTED out for entertainment and some scenes may be presented in a dramatic manner that may appear to be hazardous but are actually performed in a controlled safe manner.
watched a crop duster pilot do this once when I was driving a nurse rig. I'll never forget that radio call. my boss asked if the pilot was ok and I told him "yeah, but he broke his toe when he took his helmet off and kicked it."
@@seahippies crop duster pilots are the best. Low and loaded hard maneuvering every dam day. You idiot dont know what is to crash and not your fault.. Shut up bichttttt
Was given a ride in a Kitfox years ago. Engine died at about the same point as yours but we were up about 100' Pilot stalled it into a pond and we swam out of it. Airframe, prop and motor were totaled. When I got home, I signed up for flying lessons (I was sure I could do better than that experience). I soloed a week later. I say "Any landing you can swim away from is a good landing."
Do you mind me asking was it expensive for lessons? Living in Ireland I know there will be a difference in price. But I was hoping to get a general price of what it should cost. I wanted to fly since I was a child but just couldn't afford it. Now I'm nearly 40 it's now or never. I have great respect for you swimming away from a crash and then going getting a licence. Most people would have run a mile. Good on you buddy.
@@kevinkeating9090 I was in a flying club many years ago where as co-owner of the planes, the costs of planes and instructors were the lowest. Where there is a will there is a way.
@@kevinkeating9090 you should look into untralights. I dont know how it works in Ireland but in America no lisence required. Training in ultralights is cheaper as well
The problem with vapor locks on Rotax engines, particularly with the constant carb heat system that it looks like you have, is a problem. In 2005 in my then new StingSport my son and I found our engine sputtering after taking off on a hot day from Chandler Airport (CHD) in AZ. Fortunately, we had enough altitude and partial power to land safely. The Rotax is a combination liquid and air-cooled engine. If you don't get enough fresh airflow over the engine you can have vapor lock. The fix for the Sting was adding a baffle under the engine, before the firewall and behind the radiator, to create negative air pressure to help draw more fresh air over the engine and through the radiator. By the way, when you finally started your takeoff run, post accident, it sure looked like you had a lot of "runway' behind you!
oh c'mon, I was expecting you to spend the night carving out a new prop out of some of that driftwood with a small camping axe... sort of a Bear Grylls/MacGyver/Marcinko mashup? maybe for a future video?
Awesome. Glad to see Part II, you back in the air, and issue resolved. You have great group of flying buddies, and an amazing attitude. Thanks for sharing.
@Zeksteve Ah, if they do, then they can get away with it...also, I found out from some pilot buddies that as it's experimental, they don't have to do a complete tear down as one would with a 'regular' plane.
I had a similar thought. Maybe because the engine had quit before the flip and subsequent prop strike he figured there was unlikely to be any internal damage? Seemed pretty ballsy to fly it right out of there to me. But what other option did he have anyway lol backcountry at its best. Gotta be able to pull off a fierce rescue
A note for *future reference*.. hehe... If you didn't do it off camera, always pull the plugs and crank first to blow out any potential oil in the cylinders on an engine that has been upset like that. In the event that crankcase oil leaks past the rings and into the combustion chamber while it's upside-down or sideways, you could potentially bend and/or break stuff from a hydro-lock condition... not applicable for 2-stroke types of course
it wasnt a hydro lock mister expert, if it was the engine would NOT have started and ran. although you should turn mags off and rotate prop a few engine revolutions.
@@cgosgosney4869 I think you completely missed what he was trying to say. When you have an engine that's really hot, and you turn it upside down, everything is so expanded (and the oil is thinner because it's hot), the oil will seep past the rings and into the combustion chamber. So you pull out the plugs and crank the engine to ensure that any excess oil gets thrown out of the cylinders to prevent a hydro-lock.
@@funkyzero well the comment kind of leads on like thats why the situation happened. it clearly wasnt any of us who have been around engines knows this much. my comment was an add on not trying to be sarcastic with the mister expert line although it may have seemed that way
Sorry about that mishap but you guys got it together and flew it out. Great job!! You all deserved the party that evening too. You guys do the kind of flying I wish I did. I've been flying for 40 years now and owned my Hawk XP for 36 but of course I have a runway queen. But thanks for sharing the kind of flying you guys do and I enjoy the video's. Best regards, Lisa
Nice video. I'm not a young man anymore. Over the years I've known many a young man who died by low and slow flying. Low and slow can bite you very hard unless you are fully cognizant of and manage the added risks. Wishing you a long and happy flying career.
That did not seem like a very extensive post crash inspection prior to the next flight. No fuel line or filter inspections. No checks of the engine mounts for hidden cracks from the impact. No checks to see if the airframe and vertical fin were still true. Not many checks of any kind unless there was some extensive work done off camera. If we even get a chip light in the bush we are grounded until an engineer is flown out to inspect it and the metal is sent away for analysis. Glad it worked out.
I certainly wouldn't have flown it without checking it more thoroughly myself. Even if the rules state that no inspection is necessary, it's still a smart thing to do.
@Chris Richardson It's fine. If they had more beer, he could have flown it home with the broken prop. Another reminder to always have enough beer with you when going bush flying.
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@@totilsom Big bouncy tires. Easier to land off the runway. Also side note: No part of the airport environment is called the tarmac, nor is it made with tarmac (anymore). Hasn't been for decades.
Thanks for posting this. It’s actually really great content for people getting into aviation and being able to see when things go wrong. Good chance you’ll save lives because of people now changing out bad parts they might have. Can’t wait for the next video!
FYI the only way to vapor lock a liquid pump is to generate vapor before the pump, if the liquid pump picks up liquid it will pump it providing it mechanically functions any vapor after the pump will be pushed thru the carb vent and give an slight over rich condition at operating RPM, look for heating of the fuel line before the pump, shield or re-route to ensure liquid to the pump, hope this may help someone. The expansion from liquid to vapor is several hundreds times of displaced space so vapor generated before the pump can travel back in the direction of the tank and the liquid pump will not pump vapor.
Not too many people can walk away from an airplane crashing...glad to see you were o.k., if this isn't the best ad for this plane I don't know what is. Good video. Love the idea of these STOL aircrafts,,,came by these videos by watching commercial airlines crash recreations. Glad I did. Is a nice welcomed sight to see the pilot be ok after a crash.
Hey brother I just found your channel, it looks exactly like what I have been dreaming of doing. (except for the upside down part) I'm working on my PPL right now and hopefully will be getting a Kitfox within a year. Really looking forward to this lifestyle! I live in the Sedona area so lots of wide open landing choices here!
Yup, enjoyed the vid! I had a vap lock couple times and ended up putting an electric pump on for takeoffs and haven't had problem since that. Sure gives you a rush after you have one though eh.shaky legs after you get out! You were lucky could have ended in the water face down bud....not very nice! minor damage that is a plus! Take care out there, Murphy is watching you!
That's why I will only ever fly RC and not step foot in a god damn plane. Long Trek FPV's give me that satisfaction without the minute risk of catastrophic failure. I can walk away from an incident like this on an LR-FPV on an RC but only 1 fleshy body. Props to all the aviators included my Pa out there. But I will never set foot on a plane unless crossing the oceans. Even then I need to be sedated heavily to avoid a ruckus. I think I know why so many people are drunkards while on planes.
Captain Haphazard! This the second one of your vids I have watched. The first one, you need to bring portable landing skis, snow shoes, cross country skis, and possibly a kite sail with regular downhill skis to get back to safety. In this one you need to bring extra propeller blades, and quick patching material for wings.
Great video. Sold my hatz two years ago but this makes me want to start flying again. And if I could be 20 years younger and fearless... these guys know how to have fun. Bush planes, beer and camping. More power to ya.
Quick and intelligent judgement in such a small amount of time... Glad everything turned out ok. You didn't really have any choices in that situation. It was either that, or possibly drown. Even your airplane was fine :) always remember.. "If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you can use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing." -Chuck Yeager
I had a old bush plane and my friend wanted to fly in his with me. We raced a few times till my engine died to.my friend went to land his plane then waited for me until he saw me gliding he said he freaked and called 911 just in case.I crash landed and I lost my wing and hit my head hard. A few minutes later the cops showed up saying an ambulance was coming and I was like “oh wow I’m fine” then we just kept the plane and repaired it. Till this day I’ve never crashed it and this video reminded me. BTW fun fact: I just got this phone and watched RUclips. It was my cousins,and he never deleted his stuff
dude, you should have watched that guy land on the snow on top of a mountain. He almost couldn't get his plane off from there. You could have learned from his experience.
Looks like the Good life here! Just set up camp after a crash and fly away the next day Must be sooo much fun to fly your own plane around this Area! Good to see the damage isn’t too much..!
Aviation gas rarely vapor locks. However, from personal experience, when running car gas there were two obvious problems I noticed: the mixture control always had to be set richer to obtain the same power as aviation gas which indicated that car gas isn't as dense as aviation gas. The other problem was that after landing the engine has to be allowed to cool or there would be a vapor lock problem if the engine was restarted too soon. What happened was we had landed at Marysville Airport in California to eat at the airport restaurant one hot summer day. There was a for sale sign on the closesd restaurant door. We jumped back into the plane, taxied out, and took off. Two things happened simultaneously upon passing the end of the runway: the engine started sputtering, and a wasp came buzzing into the cockpit from the right air vent. What else could go wrong? After about 15 seconds the engine cleared, power resumed, and my wife smashed the wasp with a Kleenex. It was an interesting flight. After that I only took off on the tank with aviation gas.
@@douglasrodrigues9329 the difference in av gas and auto gas is octane.... then governor Davis came along and his brother got contacts to dump toxic waste into gasoline they passed laws requiring ethanol and in that law other things were allowed to be dumped .....cars and trucks (they dumped toxics into diesel too) started breaking down in excessive masses and only in Calif they still dump toxic waste into gas .....corruption in Calif is terrible...... because of demon rats..... it used to be a gasoline Coleman stove burned clean now they plug up terribly..... but still vapor lock is almost always what people blame on what they don't know...... you'r aircraft must likely did not stutter from vapour lock ..... more likely was detonation from over heating.... vapor lock and carburetors are the things that non mechanics blame stuttering engines on.....carburetors do not vapor lock they are designed not to.... if an engine stutters its because of timing or primary electrical system 90 percent of the time..... in an aircraft application altitude will cause rich mixture which can cause flooding if not adjusted.....I don't think many pilots can explain how mixture should be adjusted for their aircraft..... if v you run lean your engine will heat and if head temps exceed recommended you will likely experience loss of power from detonation if to rich you will lose power from the extra fuel using space for air and also causing hydraulic action because its liquid and not a gas and the excess fuel drowns spark shorting it to ground just as if you touch a screwdriver to the top of the plug erratically ..... you're stutter was probably caused by the engine heating causing intake air to be heated thinner and so you were running rich .... anyway vapor lock is the excuse given by those that do not know engines and those that think they do... no offense intended just education..... most describe vapor lock just like this guy that crashed that's not what happens vapor lock is the fuel in the float bowl boiling and vaporizing the block has to be extremely hot for this to happen..... now if you have a fuel line with a pin hole in it you can get air in the system which will cause a fuel pump to not properly function .....a fuel pump is a hydraulic pump....air bubbles in hydraulic systems cause failure..... gasoline will boil at between 100 and 400 degrees depends on octane and other additives
hopefully the word travels around to others with the same plane about the fuel pump and the return line you added (brilliant)! I learn a lot about my Jeep on Jeep forum. You should share this on a Kitfox forum! My wife is a student pilot right now so it's fun to watch your crazy antics. She is yelling at you from the other room. LOL. I'm late to the party here but I'll probably catch up and binge watch all your videos in the next few days! Peace Out!
Thank you for sharing your misadventures. Great resiliency. I really like the tech issues... vapor lock and the fix. Keep up the good work and I'll "like" the videos. Keep them short. I prefer 10 to 14minute. Jeff T.
Either turn the speech level UP, or the musical noise DOWN! My volume level is being wound up and down like a yoyo on elastic to keep the speaker cones inside the cabinets!
That's one tough little KF. Glad to see her fly out of there! That type of flying, it was bound to happen someday.. good thing it won't happen for the same reason again. Nice handling of the situation, considering...
I've watched a couple videos, he landed on the grass beside the runway, and the other one, he took off from the apron... Is this all okay in aviation?... (obviously he also went on the road and to a gas station... but I'm asking within the aerodrome procedures) Are these actions cool with the other aerodrome users and owners?
Ask Mike Patey his opinion on non-runway departures. He ground-looped Draco trying to take off in a crosswind on the active runway when he literally could've taken off in the width of the runway into the headwind. That was at a controlled airport, though. From a legality perspective, helicopters and ultralights frequently depart and land off-runway at small, uncontrolled airports. FAR 91.13 and 91.119 are gonna the be "gotcha" for things like that. If you don't overfly people/property at low altitude and you don't create any hazards or otherwise recklessly operate your plane, then I don't think there's any issues. My personal opinion is that a few of the on-road landings have been in less than ideal locations, and the apron departure was perceptibly unprofessional, yet ostensibly safer than ground looping it on the runway. The Draco crash probably played into the decision making on that which makes it very understandable. Perhaps he got some pressure from the FAA and that's why he ditched the Kitfox a year ago?
...guess how I found out that a Suzuki Samurai has a filter between the fuel tank and the fuel pump...that's right...vapor lock...a pump pulling against a plugged filter will do it every time...
WELL THEN, I HOPE YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON!!! Never leave the hangar without 2 rolls of Ductape and a Fishing pole! If it won't fly,... then you haven't used enough Ductape yet😁
Hey, that sounds a lot like motorcycles off road!! The "Standard Off Road Toolkit" was 2 rolls of duct tape, 1 roll of bailing wire, a pair of Vise-Grips. ( and nowadays, a Leatherman multi-tool) Extra tools could be added to accommodate your last excursion. ;^)
I have to agree with all these people on here that have zero flight time in that type, or any type actually, that you crashed. You have a great attitude and I really enjoy these videos. HOWEVER......the fact that you are enjoying yourself so much and not giving in to the proper levels of paranoia they think you don't possess leads me to believe that you were in fact ON SCENE, and fully capable of assessing the damage IN PERSON. I am also keeping in mind that YOU BUILT THE DAMN THING, and know it like the back of your hand. All speculation of course, since I wasn't there. I sure hope you shared some of that Corona with the sand bar, it's loose rock was a lot more forgiving than cement would have been.($$$) Great videos, thanks for sharing.
I think everyone is mad because you weren't visibly infuriated, terrified, or shook up. Just because they didn't see how they would react in you they think you thought nothing of the incident. In my opinion, you handled it very well and very safe. You knew your airplane and who better to trust with your butt than yourself? I've subbed and I'm hoping to see more content from you! (hopefully not more crashes!)
Sorry you had a crash, Was nice to see how you handled it. I think keeping your cool is the trick. I'm sure that take off after the crash was terrifying but you didn't show it. thanks for sharing this experience sir.
The return line you put on “looks” like it goes back into the suction line to the pump? If so that is doing absolutely nothing, all that will do is circulate the vapor back to pump, not clearing anything , the return line needs to go back to a tank. I fly in 40+’c temps done properly you won’t have vapour locks
That new prop looks beautiful, I keep meaning to read up on the evolution of props from the Wright Bros onwards because I'm sure its a fascinating subject.
It was only a service bulletin (from Rotax), not an AD (which is issued by the gov't.), so there is no way for them to force you to do it. But the return line is THE thing that will help, by circulating cooler fuel up by the engine; I would have run it back to a tank. Some old "dead headed" fuel injection systems also suffered from vapor lock.
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Crashes plane
“No no this was all on purpose for entertainment purposes”
Yeah yeah, sure sure 😆🤙
watched a crop duster pilot do this once when I was driving a nurse rig. I'll never forget that radio call. my boss asked if the pilot was ok and I told him "yeah, but he broke his toe when he took his helmet off and kicked it."
*anti climax*
that's what happens when ya act like an hysterical bitch....
@@seahippies crop duster pilots are the best. Low and loaded hard maneuvering every dam day. You idiot dont know what is to crash and not your fault.. Shut up bichttttt
I guess he was angry after being safe after the crash and having an injury for a dumb reason
5feetgoaround fullflapsC150 hahaha your a whiny bitch too!!! It takes all kinds
Now im no expert on plane landings, but im pretty sure the wheels go on the bottom?
I had to google it and all the plane had wheels on the bottom, so you might be right
You cann copy thtss conntrol you fliyiing
Lolll
Needs one of those bumper stickers that says "if you can read this flip over"
Keep the dirty side down and the sky side up... Be it Plane, Drone or Car.. They work better that way...
Was given a ride in a Kitfox years ago. Engine died at about the same point as yours but we were up about 100' Pilot stalled it into a pond and we swam out of it. Airframe, prop and motor were totaled. When I got home, I signed up for flying lessons (I was sure I could do better than that experience). I soloed a week later.
I say "Any landing you can swim away from is a good landing."
Wily Coyote you soloed a week into your training? Lol
Do you mind me asking was it expensive for lessons? Living in Ireland I know there will be a difference in price. But I was hoping to get a general price of what it should cost.
I wanted to fly since I was a child but just couldn't afford it. Now I'm nearly 40 it's now or never.
I have great respect for you swimming away from a crash and then going getting a licence. Most people would have run a mile. Good on you buddy.
@@kevinkeating9090 I was in a flying club many years ago where as co-owner of the planes, the costs of planes and instructors were the lowest. Where there is a will there is a way.
@@wilycoyote5360 I sure do hope I can make it too. Biggest dream I ever had was to fly.
@@kevinkeating9090 you should look into untralights. I dont know how it works in Ireland but in America no lisence required. Training in ultralights is cheaper as well
That Pump killed my friend Jack, glad you made it through. AD's are serious.
Can you give some more information about this? Sometimes i fly a Rotax 912 powered machine, does this still apply?
As a CFI: "I don't know what an AD is.." scares the crap out of me. Especially coming from an aircraft owner.
@@rubberbrush that's not what he said though. He didn't know what AD stands for, not what they are.
The problem with vapor locks on Rotax engines, particularly with the constant carb heat system that it looks like you have, is a problem. In 2005 in my then new StingSport my son and I found our engine sputtering after taking off on a hot day from Chandler Airport (CHD) in AZ. Fortunately, we had enough altitude and partial power to land safely. The Rotax is a combination liquid and air-cooled engine. If you don't get enough fresh airflow over the engine you can have vapor lock. The fix for the Sting was adding a baffle under the engine, before the firewall and behind the radiator, to create negative air pressure to help draw more fresh air over the engine and through the radiator. By the way, when you finally started your takeoff run, post accident, it sure looked like you had a lot of "runway' behind you!
oh c'mon, I was expecting you to spend the night carving out a new prop out of some of that driftwood with a small camping axe... sort of a Bear Grylls/MacGyver/Marcinko mashup? maybe for a future video?
Omg 😂😂😂😂 just like vietnam war
First you crash your plane, then you crash your drone ... maybe you should look into boats
No.... maybe you should consider a bicycle! Give pilots a bad name.
Tanks
or a Party 😁
AMG Black bicycles are reeeeeally dangerous tho.
Hopefully not a speedboat just joking are not ,maybe he turned over a new Leaf of good luck hopefully I've watched two videos of his bad luck and both
Awesome. Glad to see Part II, you back in the air, and issue resolved. You have great group of flying buddies, and an amazing attitude.
Thanks for sharing.
Experimental must be nice... Any prop strike/impact on my Cessna requires full rebuild. Nice job handling it.
Not quite. You have to take it apart and inspect it. Not rebuild it. Ask me how I know.
@Zeksteve Ah, if they do, then they can get away with it...also, I found out from some pilot buddies that as it's experimental, they don't have to do a complete tear down as one would with a 'regular' plane.
I had a similar thought. Maybe because the engine had quit before the flip and subsequent prop strike he figured there was unlikely to be any internal damage? Seemed pretty ballsy to fly it right out of there to me. But what other option did he have anyway lol backcountry at its best. Gotta be able to pull off a fierce rescue
Super impressed with how you kept your composure through this incident. Well done Dude!
A note for *future reference*.. hehe...
If you didn't do it off camera, always pull the plugs and crank first to blow out any potential oil in the cylinders on an engine that has been upset like that. In the event that crankcase oil leaks past the rings and into the combustion chamber while it's upside-down or sideways, you could potentially bend and/or break stuff from a hydro-lock condition... not applicable for 2-stroke types of course
it wasnt a hydro lock mister expert, if it was the engine would NOT have started and ran. although you should turn mags off and rotate prop a few engine revolutions.
@@cgosgosney4869
no shit, Sherlock. The whole point of my post was advice to check first and make sure before you start cranking on it, Einstein.
@@cgosgosney4869 I think you completely missed what he was trying to say. When you have an engine that's really hot, and you turn it upside down, everything is so expanded (and the oil is thinner because it's hot), the oil will seep past the rings and into the combustion chamber. So you pull out the plugs and crank the engine to ensure that any excess oil gets thrown out of the cylinders to prevent a hydro-lock.
@@funkyzero well the comment kind of leads on like thats why the situation happened. it clearly wasnt any of us who have been around engines knows this much. my comment was an add on not trying to be sarcastic with the mister expert line although it may have seemed that way
@@ChaseB1896 probably i thought he meant that thats why the failure happened
Vapor lock can usually be mitigated by mindful fuel line routing. Heat protection where appropriate and avoiding loops in the line.
And stop using vacuum pumps.
Nice to see you got out safe with minimal damage to your airframe. Keep on flying buddy 😛
Sorry about that mishap but you guys got it together and flew it out. Great job!! You all deserved the party that evening too. You guys do the kind of flying I wish I did. I've been flying for 40 years now and owned my Hawk XP for 36 but of course I have a runway queen. But thanks for sharing the kind of flying you guys do and I enjoy the video's. Best regards, Lisa
after fixing the few things broke should install a ankor on the bottom for those needed fast stops.lol glad you and your plan are okay
Thanks for the update. Glad your were able to fly it out.
Nice video.
I'm not a young man anymore.
Over the years I've known many a young man who died by low and slow flying.
Low and slow can bite you very hard unless you are fully cognizant of and manage the added risks.
Wishing you a long and happy flying career.
Not much for an alternative when you're taking off.
Dude it was totally your day, you walked away from the crash and found your drone! count the blessings my mam...
It must be hard to share an event like this. I appreciate it though; learning without doing is always a good thing!
imagine crashing Draco and sharing that!!
I just hope that never happens to me. You were brave enough to calm it record it. Thanks for sharing it
That did not seem like a very extensive post crash inspection prior to the next flight. No fuel line or filter inspections. No checks of the engine mounts for hidden cracks from the impact. No checks to see if the airframe and vertical fin were still true. Not many checks of any kind unless there was some extensive work done off camera. If we even get a chip light in the bush we are grounded until an engineer is flown out to inspect it and the metal is sent away for analysis. Glad it worked out.
GA rules don't apply for Experimental. New prop, kick the tyres light the fires... 😉
I certainly wouldn't have flown it without checking it more thoroughly myself. Even if the rules state that no inspection is necessary, it's still a smart thing to do.
Also AD's are put out for a reason...
@Chris Richardson It's fine. If they had more beer, he could have flown it home with the broken prop. Another reminder to always have enough beer with you when going bush flying.
@@realitycheck3363 8hrs bottle to throttle and yer all gud!
Plane and a drone... damn dude haha. Good times, sometimes you win sometimes you dont haha. Another great vid. Keep em comin🤙
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Why don't you have slow flyer (stacked wings ?) ..It's much safer to do landing and take off from rough places I suppose ...
man i would of shit my pants
@@TheDepreys I suspect your sphincter wouldn't have time to react, but if you did, inverted... it doesn't even bear thinking about.
Question: when you returned you had a tarmac runway but you landed on dirt. Why??
@@totilsom Big bouncy tires. Easier to land off the runway. Also side note: No part of the airport environment is called the tarmac, nor is it made with tarmac (anymore). Hasn't been for decades.
Ouch, glad you ok, thanks for sharing your experience with us👍
So glad you’re ok man. It was painful to watch that prop strike in slowmo 😅
I was told by my instructor that any landing that you can walk away from is a good one. Good landing!
I dont know. If you kept crashing my planes and walking away I think I would let you keep walking and not come back.
That's one crazy tough plane! Thanks for posting Jonas. Also like that you kept your cool throughout the whole thing. Nice job sir!
Enjoy your videos, watching people enjoying life. Glad you came out of it ok. And your beautiful plane too!
You guys knew WAY to quick ( @ 1:34 ), how to fix this problem - LOL!
Awesome video!
I hope if I ever crash a plane, it's exactly like this. I think you did the best possible given the circumstances.
Really glad you were not injured and that your back flying. " Experience is what you get when you were expecting something else"
Thanks for posting this. It’s actually really great content for people getting into aviation and being able to see when things go wrong. Good chance you’ll save lives because of people now changing out bad parts they might have. Can’t wait for the next video!
Does the saying "any landing that you walk away from is a good landing" still apply here?
Dan Murphy it wasn’t a landing.
@@clwomble a crash Landing.
Dan Murphy yepp good landing.. could have ended up flipping over in the water.. plane looks fine so there’s that too
Any takeoff you can walk away from isn’t a takeoff.
Yes.
FYI the only way to vapor lock a liquid pump is to generate vapor before the pump, if the liquid pump picks up liquid it will pump it providing it mechanically functions any vapor after the pump will be pushed thru the carb vent and give an slight over rich condition at operating RPM, look for heating of the fuel line before the pump, shield or re-route to ensure liquid to the pump, hope this may help someone. The expansion from liquid to vapor is several hundreds times of displaced space so vapor generated before the pump can travel back in the direction of the tank and the liquid pump will not pump vapor.
I love that you always have people to help!!! Cool adventures!
Not too many people can walk away from an airplane crashing...glad to see you were o.k., if this isn't the best ad for this plane I don't know what is. Good video. Love the idea of these STOL aircrafts,,,came by these videos by watching commercial airlines crash recreations. Glad I did. Is a nice welcomed sight to see the pilot be ok after a crash.
Hey brother I just found your channel, it looks exactly like what I have been dreaming of doing. (except for the upside down part) I'm working on my PPL right now and hopefully will be getting a Kitfox within a year. Really looking forward to this lifestyle! I live in the Sedona area so lots of wide open landing choices here!
the advantage of bush planes.....low speed take offs mean you don't end up a paraplegic with vapor lock.
I love how he has 2 crashes in one day and still had an up beat attitude, props! Hahaha
Glad you're ok man, could've been a lot worse. Keep up the great work, enjoy the videos!
LOL, You crack me up, first the plane then the drone. O man...SMH
He's going to left, He's going to the right, He's going over there! Hilarious!!
Great video, and great recovery, (not into the water,) so you could fix and fly.
Well done.
My buddy flies a WILGA and I love his videos of all the back woods flying and landings... So jealous!
Yup, enjoyed the vid!
I had a vap lock couple times and ended up putting an electric pump on for takeoffs and haven't had problem since that. Sure gives you a rush after you have one though eh.shaky legs after you get out! You were lucky could have ended in the water face down bud....not very nice! minor damage that is a plus!
Take care out there, Murphy is watching you!
I think ill add a electric pump also! thanks!
Twin electric pumps with return is the way to go. Impossible to vapour lock flowing fuel. Twin because it’s an airplane!
Since I watch this video I have got 5 ads for funeral homes, 3 ads for caskets shaped like a tail dragger, and only 1 ad for flying lessons. 😂
That's why I will only ever fly RC and not step foot in a god damn plane. Long Trek FPV's give me that satisfaction without the minute risk of catastrophic failure.
I can walk away from an incident like this on an LR-FPV on an RC but only 1 fleshy body.
Props to all the aviators included my Pa out there. But I will never set foot on a plane unless crossing the oceans. Even then I need to be sedated heavily to avoid a ruckus.
I think I know why so many people are drunkards while on planes.
Captain Haphazard! This the second one of your vids I have watched. The first one, you need to bring portable landing skis, snow shoes, cross country skis, and possibly a kite sail with regular downhill skis to get back to safety. In this one you need to bring extra propeller blades, and quick patching material for wings.
This is genius! Good you guys are all ok! Glad this came in my recoment list.
Great video. Sold my hatz two years ago but this makes me want to start flying again. And if I could be 20 years younger and fearless... these guys know how to have fun. Bush planes, beer and camping. More power to ya.
You seem more concerned about your drone! LOL
haha, nice comment. Made me laugh!
Glad you were ok that could have been bad tough little planes thanks for sharing your experience.
WOW!!! So glad you were ok, loving your channel too btw.
"Because I was inverted."
after plain hits the dust, ...lets get drone shots :D gnarley my duuude
This video earned you a new subscriber- happy to see it was a minor incident. lucky not to turn over in the water too, happy youre safe!
That is about the coolest way to crash and recover ever. Glad you are ok and flying again. Kitfox looks like fun!
Quick and intelligent judgement in such a small amount of time... Glad everything turned out ok. You didn't really have any choices in that situation. It was either that, or possibly drown.
Even your airplane was fine :) always remember..
"If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you can use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing."
-Chuck Yeager
I had a old bush plane and my friend wanted to fly in his with me. We raced a few times till my engine died to.my friend went to land his plane then waited for me until he saw me gliding he said he freaked and called 911 just in case.I crash landed and I lost my wing and hit my head hard. A few minutes later the cops showed up saying an ambulance was coming and I was like “oh wow I’m fine” then we just kept the plane and repaired it. Till this day I’ve never crashed it and this video reminded me. BTW fun fact: I just got this phone and watched RUclips. It was my cousins,and he never deleted his stuff
Glad you made it out safe and are back in the air.
"...any landing you can walk away from..." Love your videos,Bro.
dude, you should have watched that guy land on the snow on top of a mountain. He almost couldn't get his plane off from there. You could have learned from his experience.
haha yeah that's the same dude
Smart ass 😂😂😂😂
A drone and an airplane crash in the same video. You have 1 point left on your licence.
Thanks for sharing. Sorry it happened. Looks like a beautiful plane. I am sure you will get it patched up nicely.
I may start to fly bush planes again in a Kitfox, seeing how you did all that, thanks for showing
Looks like the Good life here!
Just set up camp after a crash and fly away the next day
Must be sooo much fun to fly your own plane around this Area!
Good to see the damage isn’t too much..!
Please tell us that when you got home you pulled off the prop and gearbox and indicated the crank and inspected the gearbox housing...
Yes, of course I did! all checked out.
He should have whittled a new prop out of that driftwood. Now that's back country fellas.
av8r3400 Of course it checked out fine because it wasn’t a true prop strike. 😁👍🏼
I wouldn't have even bothered. Prop was fully stopped when it touched the ground. I MIGHT have put a run-out gauge on the output shaft, but that's it.
@@nightwaves3203 through the gearbox
Lucky man. You kept your cool. Fly safe.
Glad you’re okay man! Way to keep your wits about you and take care of business! Also shout out to your homies for helping you out! Y’all are bad ass!
Hey guy you are good at crashing !
I drove an old VW bug. I'm familiar with vapor lock.
Aviation gas rarely vapor locks. However, from personal experience, when running car gas there were two obvious problems I noticed: the mixture control always had to be set richer to obtain the same power as aviation gas which indicated that car gas isn't as dense as aviation gas. The other problem was that after landing the engine has to be allowed to cool or there would be a vapor lock problem if the engine was restarted too soon. What happened was we had landed at Marysville Airport in California to eat at the airport restaurant one hot summer day. There was a for sale sign on the closesd restaurant door. We jumped back into the plane, taxied out, and took off. Two things happened simultaneously upon passing the end of the runway: the engine started sputtering, and a wasp came buzzing into the cockpit from the right air vent. What else could go wrong? After about 15 seconds the engine cleared, power resumed, and my wife smashed the wasp with a Kleenex. It was an interesting flight. After that I only took off on the tank with aviation gas.
I drove an old vw karmanghia and a bug they never vapor locked.....vapor lock is an excuse for ignorance this guy is dangerous af
@@douglasrodrigues9329 the difference in av gas and auto gas is octane.... then governor Davis came along and his brother got contacts to dump toxic waste into gasoline they passed laws requiring ethanol and in that law other things were allowed to be dumped .....cars and trucks (they dumped toxics into diesel too) started breaking down in excessive masses and only in Calif they still dump toxic waste into gas .....corruption in Calif is terrible...... because of demon rats..... it used to be a gasoline Coleman stove burned clean now they plug up terribly..... but still vapor lock is almost always what people blame on what they don't know...... you'r aircraft must likely did not stutter from vapour lock ..... more likely was detonation from over heating.... vapor lock and carburetors are the things that non mechanics blame stuttering engines on.....carburetors do not vapor lock they are designed not to.... if an engine stutters its because of timing or primary electrical system 90 percent of the time..... in an aircraft application altitude will cause rich mixture which can cause flooding if not adjusted.....I don't think many pilots can explain how mixture should be adjusted for their aircraft..... if v you run lean your engine will heat and if head temps exceed recommended you will likely experience loss of power from detonation if to rich you will lose power from the extra fuel using space for air and also causing hydraulic action because its liquid and not a gas and the excess fuel drowns spark shorting it to ground just as if you touch a screwdriver to the top of the plug erratically ..... you're stutter was probably caused by the engine heating causing intake air to be heated thinner and so you were running rich .... anyway vapor lock is the excuse given by those that do not know engines and those that think they do... no offense intended just education..... most describe vapor lock just like this guy that crashed that's not what happens vapor lock is the fuel in the float bowl boiling and vaporizing the block has to be extremely hot for this to happen..... now if you have a fuel line with a pin hole in it you can get air in the system which will cause a fuel pump to not properly function .....a fuel pump is a hydraulic pump....air bubbles in hydraulic systems cause failure..... gasoline will boil at between 100 and 400 degrees depends on octane and other additives
@@jolllyroger1 it was vaporlock you fuck.
@Phil M Clothes pins on the fuel line seemed to help too.
hopefully the word travels around to others with the same plane about the fuel pump and the return line you added (brilliant)! I learn a lot about my Jeep on Jeep forum. You should share this on a Kitfox forum! My wife is a student pilot right now so it's fun to watch your crazy antics. She is yelling at you from the other room. LOL. I'm late to the party here but I'll probably catch up and binge watch all your videos in the next few days! Peace Out!
Amazing the airframe wasn't pulled apart & inspected ! New prop fly away.....crazy!!!!
Ok my first plan will be one of these.
Thanks for the AD info. Sorry that happened. Glad you got down okay and came out alright 😊👍🏿
Thank you for sharing your misadventures. Great resiliency. I really like the tech issues... vapor lock and the fix. Keep up the good work and I'll "like" the videos. Keep them short. I prefer 10 to 14minute. Jeff T.
Invest in a good luck charm, maybe have everything blessed ? :)
that new pump!
Either turn the speech level UP, or the musical noise DOWN! My volume level is being wound up and down like a yoyo on elastic to keep the speaker cones inside the cabinets!
I like how you have the DJI Mavic Pro 2 drone! Got the same exact one myself! Love it!!
That's one tough little KF. Glad to see her fly out of there! That type of flying, it was bound to happen someday.. good thing it won't happen for the same reason again. Nice handling of the situation, considering...
Damn this made my Wallet cry
I've watched a couple videos, he landed on the grass beside the runway, and the other one, he took off from the apron... Is this all okay in aviation?... (obviously he also went on the road and to a gas station... but I'm asking within the aerodrome procedures) Are these actions cool with the other aerodrome users and owners?
Ask Mike Patey his opinion on non-runway departures. He ground-looped Draco trying to take off in a crosswind on the active runway when he literally could've taken off in the width of the runway into the headwind. That was at a controlled airport, though.
From a legality perspective, helicopters and ultralights frequently depart and land off-runway at small, uncontrolled airports. FAR 91.13 and 91.119 are gonna the be "gotcha" for things like that. If you don't overfly people/property at low altitude and you don't create any hazards or otherwise recklessly operate your plane, then I don't think there's any issues.
My personal opinion is that a few of the on-road landings have been in less than ideal locations, and the apron departure was perceptibly unprofessional, yet ostensibly safer than ground looping it on the runway. The Draco crash probably played into the decision making on that which makes it very understandable.
Perhaps he got some pressure from the FAA and that's why he ditched the Kitfox a year ago?
Damn, that's heartbreaking, thank GOD you were not injured!
First the bush then the drone. Textbook bad day! Glad to see you got her up in the air again.
...guess how I found out that a Suzuki Samurai has a filter between the fuel tank and the fuel pump...that's right...vapor lock...a pump pulling against a plugged filter will do it every time...
Suzuki Samurai 4ever!!!!
@@totilsom ...I agree...
WELL THEN, I HOPE YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON!!! Never leave the hangar without 2 rolls of Ductape and a Fishing pole! If it won't fly,... then you haven't used enough Ductape yet😁
🙌👌
Hey, that sounds a lot like motorcycles off road!! The "Standard Off Road Toolkit" was 2 rolls of duct tape, 1 roll of bailing wire, a pair of Vise-Grips. ( and nowadays, a Leatherman multi-tool) Extra tools could be added to accommodate your last excursion. ;^)
glad your safe. thanks for sharing.
Good information to have , thanks!!!
I have to agree with all these people on here that have zero flight time in that type, or any type actually, that you crashed. You have a great attitude and I really enjoy these videos. HOWEVER......the fact that you are enjoying yourself so much and not giving in to the proper levels of paranoia they think you don't possess leads me to believe that you were in fact ON SCENE, and fully capable of assessing the damage IN PERSON. I am also keeping in mind that YOU BUILT THE DAMN THING, and know it like the back of your hand. All speculation of course, since I wasn't there.
I sure hope you shared some of that Corona with the sand bar, it's loose rock was a lot more forgiving than cement would have been.($$$)
Great videos, thanks for sharing.
kingofcastlechaos you’re the man. Thanks for the comment.
I think everyone is mad because you weren't visibly infuriated, terrified, or shook up. Just because they didn't see how they would react in you they think you thought nothing of the incident. In my opinion, you handled it very well and very safe. You knew your airplane and who better to trust with your butt than yourself? I've subbed and I'm hoping to see more content from you! (hopefully not more crashes!)
My brother taught me not to get excited when this happens, just focus on safety and fixing the situation and feel bad about what happened later
Sorry you had a crash, Was nice to see how you handled it. I think keeping your cool is the trick. I'm sure that take off after the crash was terrifying but you didn't show it. thanks for sharing this experience sir.
love your crash & camping show!
The return line you put on “looks” like it goes back into the suction line to the pump? If so that is doing absolutely nothing, all that will do is circulate the vapor back to pump, not clearing anything , the return line needs to go back to a tank.
I fly in 40+’c temps done properly you won’t have vapour locks
He blamed this on vapor lock ....vapor lock should never happen..... it's an excuse for ignorance
@@jolllyroger1 what happened then? I'm curious to know
That new prop looks beautiful, I keep meaning to read up on the evolution of props from the Wright Bros onwards because I'm sure its a fascinating subject.
@Phil M Almost is an understatement
the cool music stops at the right time.....hahahaha
ALWAYS carry a spare propeller.
I liked that you didn't get hurt and how it turn out but sad to see the bird flip! Be safe
It was only a service bulletin (from Rotax), not an AD (which is issued by the gov't.), so there is no way for them to force you to do it. But the return line is THE thing that will help, by circulating cooler fuel up by the engine; I would have run it back to a tank. Some old "dead headed" fuel injection systems also suffered from vapor lock.
I noticed after I published the video. thank you for clarifying.
Damn!! Duct tape is just not for dating anymore...😉 🥂✌😎
What a sturdy little plane. So little apparent damage. Stay safe Jonas. Like your vids!
Thanks!
You Danger Dogs are going to love this one. Best quote of the day: "Said my prayer".