Dude! You're a life saver. I've been wracking my brain back to high school on how to do this to finish some quarter round trim on a really odd angle. This helped so much! :D
Better still create a mock up of a wall and pretend the task is to install baseboard molding . 8 pieces of 2x4 6 inches long and a scrap of drywall and an obtuse angle would bring it to life. Hated math because teacher never made it practical not so much trig but Calculus they butchered Calculus.
I SO wish I could have found this video a week ago when I was trying to learn about this very topic! I got it figured out but it was a painstaking effort as everyone else seemed to make it more difficult (at least for me). Thank you for your time and talent. Can you also do one on figuring out compound angle cuts that are not for crown molding but instead but joints?
Dude, just because you're a workshop dweller doesn't mean everything has to be rough and ready, just using whatever is to hand...you won't lose credibility if you actually go and get a blank sheet of drawing paper to illustrate your graphics on. A better camera angle would help too.
It's much easier to just draw both sides of the ruler to make tramlines. If you are doing it in situ you use the skirting etc and just draw your lines past where your cut would be.
your info was good but be more concise.. also when you were pointing out what you were going to do, your hand was blocking the view of the point of the discussion
Nicely done. I just put the wooden half of the bevel gauge against the edge of whatever I'm using to draw the arcs on, draw the line and carry on as you did, instead of lying it on top, that allows the possibility of inaccuracy because the metal blade isn't on the surface when you draw along it......if you know what I mean.
Top tip. I was taught slightly diff at college 2 yr ago. Draw your lines so they over cross and draw line from the meeting point , but thisnis actually jus as good if not better. Jus need a decent compass. Habenyih seen some prices ! I bought a sliding bevel bacho brand where the tightening nut wasnon the end so doesnt get in way. Keep vids coming boss
Thanks Andy, great video. I found it a good refresher and I would hammer the point about transcribing the angle on to paper or even a piece of wood scrap if you are taking it away. I have lost my angle a number of times early on and learnt the hard way to do this. Thanks again, Bob.
Hiya, how about folding the paper along the line? Saves you readjusting the bevel gauge. Alternatively, use masking tape, preferably a low tack one. Put two strips so they overlap at the angle. Remove and fold in half again. 😋
I found the whole video good. Great tips. Thanks. These things always look easy 'when' you know 'how'. if you don't then that's another piece of great information shared. 😉
Good explanation. Another method would be to use a ruler and a square to draw perpendicular lines to your lines, the same distance away from your apex; where the lines cross, you have your intersection that you can connect back to your apex to bisect the angle. This is basically the same method as shown in your video but is handy if you don't have a pair of compasses and do have a square (or a sheet of A4 paper).
At college i was shown a slightly different way for skirting simply take something straight and parallel and place against both walls mark the floor then draw a line from the intersection of the walls to the intersection of the lines
Hi I wonder if you might help me. I am in the throes of building a frame work besides a stream that runs through our garden with the intention of covering the the frame with decking. I am in my 60's and I am no carpenter! I also have Parkinson's. The old decking had been laid on the floor and is totally rotten so I decide to raise the framework by about 6 inches,. The area is about 60 foot long with bridges at either end. I am about half way through doing this task. The frame is hung from two parallel 4.8m x 3'' x 2'' batons. These batons are supported by 4''x4'' fencing posts which I have concreted in. My p. Scores to holdroblems come when I have used my mitre saw to cut 45' angles i then use 2'' screws. To be continued
Sorry about that it's my granddaughters' 4th birthday so I had to let chat with her nan! Any how to continue: I then have strengthened these frames by using my mitre saw to cut 50'' 2''x3'' with a 45' cut at each end of the batons these seem to work relatively well, my problems come when I endeavour to join each baton with smaller batons which I have run up the centre of the frame, I simply cannot get these central struts to go flush to the existing framework. How can I take readings with angle reader that will get a flush fit?
Great tip Andy, love the channel, recently discovered from Peter Millard Channel.Really like how most projects are related to jobs we can all tackle and relevant to the Uk.
Lovely video yet gain. Where is your accent from? I know a chap in Leicester that speaks exactly Iike you! Maybe it’s just the subtle stops in the words? Soothing though lol
Thanks for the informative information, was going to buy an angle finder today but it was £57 , I'm panelling hall stairs and landing , the stairs have tricky angles 👍
Neat trick... I was wondering after tracing the original angle if folding the paper on both lines would divide it and give you the angle also without using the compass.
Does that Bevel sit flush on the paper? I've been looking for one to do this with but I can't seem to find one that you can trace the angle with that sits flush. The blade seems to attach in the middle of the handle part. Any advice?
This method is also a good visual to understand how laying a bisecting cut angle works when cutting a sheet material into any triangular shape such as would be done when sheathing a bay window for example.
A divider doesnt have a pencil it has two sharp points and as "compass" its a pair of dividers, (2 legs) as its a pair of compasses. A compass is to find direction.
Learned to bisect angles in high school geometry class. By far the most useful class if your interested in building things. In reality it’s so much easier to use an angle finder but it’s nice to learn how to do it manually.
Top tip. Thanks. I've got an angle that is at 60° and I want to put a mitred joint where it meets as it is a moulding (Roman ogee) that I'm trying to fit. What's is the process for a combination mitred (45°) to get a 60° combination. I tried putting a 45°/30° combination and it didn't work. What am I doing wrong? This job has been waiting for 10yrs.
kooky flukes - I'm not sure if I completely understand the problem but this may help. woodgears.ca/miter/ Matthias Wandel has a lookup grid for splayed mitre angles
Yeah - I'm not sure either. Would really need to see a pic. If it's a 60 degree join you need two 30 degree mitres... but I might have the wrong end of the stick. 👍🛠
Thank you so much, Andy, for this tutorial. I live in LA but I'm from Stockton and I said to myself, 'trust a Geordie to make it simple to understand.' Great job! Now the missus is going to think I'm even smarter still when I'm building stuff around the house.
Thank you very much, and have a great and fantastic day!
Dude! You're a life saver. I've been wracking my brain back to high school on how to do this to finish some quarter round trim on a really odd angle. This helped so much! :D
👍🏿
Trace the angle onto paper, cut it out and then fold in half.
Yup - another method. 👍
Steve 1 The title is using old compass method! So he demonstrates using a compass not a folded piece of paper. Do try and keep up!
I’ll be showing this to my year 11 GCSE students. Love a bit of real world Maths
Great stuff! The 3,4,5 rule is another one I use all the time for getting big right angles - might do a vid on that at some point. 😀👍
Better still create a mock up of a wall and pretend the task is to install baseboard molding . 8 pieces of 2x4 6 inches long and a scrap of drywall and an obtuse angle would bring it to life. Hated math because teacher never made it practical not so much trig but Calculus they butchered Calculus.
Thank you dude...
Very helpful!!!.
I even liked my own comment😂
But seriously now. A total thumbs up to you👍🏻
The last part where you butted the top of the sliding bevel to the underside of the MDF pieces, and it fitted snug as a bug, was so satisfying!
I SO wish I could have found this video a week ago when I was trying to learn about this very topic! I got it figured out but it was a painstaking effort as everyone else seemed to make it more difficult (at least for me). Thank you for your time and talent. Can you also do one on figuring out compound angle cuts that are not for crown molding but instead but joints?
No worries! 👍
Dude, just because you're a workshop dweller doesn't mean everything has to be rough and ready, just using whatever is to hand...you won't lose credibility if you actually go and get a blank sheet of drawing paper to illustrate your graphics on. A better camera angle would help too.
No need for the compass if you draw 4 lines Two parallel at the first angle and then the other 2, join the corners and you have your division
Yes, this is the compass method though - will be covering other methods in a future vid. 👍
YES SIRR..
I Like it :-)
Its compasses (its got 2 legs) not compass. A compass is for finding direction.
Great tip. I wish I could see exactly what you were referring to at the 2:00 mark (camera angle). Figured it out as we went along. Thanks....
Math without using math, I love it.
Sometimes the old ways are the best ways.
It's much easier to just draw both sides of the ruler to make tramlines. If you are doing it in situ you use the skirting etc and just draw your lines past where your cut would be.
It's compasses, (not compass) because there are two legs as there are with dividers. (We dont call those divider!)
For me personally Very useful video.
thank you
Best regards from Israel..
I hope all of us will help each other always.
your info was good but be more concise.. also when you were pointing out what you were going to do, your hand was blocking the view of the point of the discussion
see! didnt have to pay attention in school after all! luckily youtube was invented! who gets the last laugh :p
I subscribed after you said "thingy". That's my kind of people.
Parallel piece of MDF is the quickest and easiest method of finding the angle.
Nicely done. I just put the wooden half of the bevel gauge against the edge of whatever I'm using to draw the arcs on, draw the line and carry on as you did, instead of lying it on top, that allows the possibility of inaccuracy because the metal blade isn't on the surface when you draw along it......if you know what I mean.
Good tip! Don't you then have to have the tip of the compass on the very edge of the piece of wood? If it works, it works! 👍😀
Yes, it works if you're careful, or if you don't fancy it finger scribe a line along the edge a couple of mill in.
Very interesting too bad my screen on my phone is broke I can't see your lines ha😅
Dang having flash backs of school.
great tip, Andy. as a beginner woodworker, this is exactly the type of information i find most useful! thanks
No worries - cheers! 👍😀
I just found your channel! Great stuff! Subscribed!
Welcome to the channel! 👍
Great video. As you explained it, I remembered using that technique in geometry class, but I had not used it in my shop.
It's a handy one to know - sometimes the only option! 😀👍
Top tip.
I was taught slightly diff at college 2 yr ago. Draw your lines so they over cross and draw line from the meeting point , but thisnis actually jus as good if not better. Jus need a decent compass. Habenyih seen some prices !
I bought a sliding bevel bacho brand where the tightening nut wasnon the end so doesnt get in way. Keep vids coming boss
Good one! Yeah, this is a Stanley bevel and it's about 40 yrs old. I still persevere with that nut getting in the road. 😂
Gosforth Handyman Put a washer underneath the clamping nut.👍
Thanks Andy, great video. I found it a good refresher and I would hammer the point about transcribing the angle on to paper or even a piece of wood scrap if you are taking it away. I have lost my angle a number of times early on and learnt the hard way to do this. Thanks again, Bob.
Cheers Bob! 👍🛠
Great tip. Divided no angles has caused me no end of pain lol ..thanks again 👍
No worries! 👍🛠
Great video dude! Thank you for the post. I have digital angle finder but it’s always good to know the basics.
You need a longer pen Eli so we can see what you’re pointing at.
Thank you. Installing baseboard up a staircase. This made it so much easier.
No, that didn’t help. I’m still confused.
Amazing video thanks pal. Just wondering, when you divided the angle, are the newer angles exactly half of the original one?
Because if I knew the angle I could just half it for the angle on the chop saw? I'm probably being incredibly stupid 🤣
My dad taught me this, back in the day. Good memory - thanks!
It's a handy one to just know - useful for a lot of stuff! 👍🛠
I SHOULD have remembered this from high school geometry.
Thanks for the great video.
How do you find the angle if the top is arched?
Hiya, how about folding the paper along the line? Saves you readjusting the bevel gauge.
Alternatively, use masking tape, preferably a low tack one. Put two strips so they overlap at the angle. Remove and fold in half again.
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Yup! Another method - I never find folding the paper as accurate but it's just what you're used to. 👍
I found the whole video good. Great tips. Thanks. These things always look easy 'when' you know 'how'. if you don't then that's another piece of great information shared. 😉
Cheers Mike! 👍🛠
Good explanation. Another method would be to use a ruler and a square to draw perpendicular lines to your lines, the same distance away from your apex; where the lines cross, you have your intersection that you can connect back to your apex to bisect the angle. This is basically the same method as shown in your video but is handy if you don't have a pair of compasses and do have a square (or a sheet of A4 paper).
Yup - covering that one in a future vid (or a similar method). 👍
I honestly owe a couple of pints
At college i was shown a slightly different way for skirting simply take something straight and parallel and place against both walls mark the floor then draw a line from the intersection of the walls to the intersection of the lines
Yes - going to cover that one in a future vid - it's a good quick method for skirting. 👍
Thanks very much for sharing, Enjoying the podcast with Peter M as well, so thanks v much for that too!
Cheers - glad you're enjoying it! 👍
Fantastic mate. God I needed this a few months ago.
Awesome information and it explains why I had so much trouble on my deck stair railings. Thank you
No probs and hope you get your railings sorted! 👍
Thanks… from an electrician🤩
Cheers doing dado friiday will give it a go
We think alike.. I said aloud "compi" (plural for compasses) moments before you.. was weird to hear you say it after. haha! Thanks for the video, man.
Thanks for the info but, PPP ffs.
Top Tip! ... Use a longer pencil or pointer so we can see what you're talking about on that drawing under your hands!!! :) :)
thanks Andy great video and tip. see you at the NEC next month
Cya at MC! 👍
Didn’t understand anything 👎
Hi I wonder if you might help me. I am in the throes of building a frame work besides a stream that runs through our garden with the intention of covering the the frame with decking. I am in my 60's and I am no carpenter! I also have Parkinson's. The old decking had been laid on the floor and is totally rotten so I decide to raise the framework by about 6 inches,. The area is about 60 foot long with bridges at either end. I am about half way through doing this task. The frame is hung from two parallel 4.8m x 3'' x 2'' batons. These batons are supported by 4''x4'' fencing posts which I have concreted in. My p. Scores to holdroblems come when I have used my mitre saw to cut 45' angles i then use 2'' screws. To be continued
On the Kapex this feature is build in, but it is always good to know how you can do it without the fancy tools. great video.
Never tried the Kapex - looks nifty! 👍😀
maybe you can try it out at your podcast buddy's shop 😉
Sorry about that it's my granddaughters' 4th birthday so I had to let chat with her nan! Any how to continue: I then have strengthened these frames by using my mitre saw to cut 50'' 2''x3'' with a 45' cut at each end of the batons these seem to work relatively well, my problems come when I endeavour to join each baton with smaller batons which I have run up the centre of the frame, I simply cannot get these central struts to go flush to the existing framework. How can I take readings with angle reader that will get a flush fit?
Great tip Andy, love the channel, recently discovered from Peter Millard Channel.Really like how most projects are related to jobs we can all tackle and relevant to the Uk.
Cheers for the kind words! 👍
Cheers for that Andy, as a DIY'er Thats come in very handy mate
Lovely video yet gain. Where is your accent from? I know a chap in Leicester that speaks exactly
Iike you! Maybe it’s just the subtle stops in the words? Soothing though lol
Brilliant, thank you for sharing your knowledge and skill, much appreciated,
regards, Chris.
Very good tip Andy!!
👍🛠
ian black ii
How did I get to my age without knowing that?
Thanks.
Ha - very handy to know! 👍🛠
Hi Andy, Im a handyman and enjoying learning from you. Can you film one of these doing skirting around a bay please. If you can. Regards. Paul Anthony
Thanks for the informative information, was going to buy an angle finder today but it was £57 , I'm panelling hall stairs and landing , the stairs have tricky angles 👍
Thanks man. Bit worrying you are ignoring the hand warning sign on the mitre saw though, we should all guard against over-confidence.
Neat trick... I was wondering after tracing the original angle if folding the paper on both lines would divide it and give you the angle also without using the compass.
Explain brilliant sir 👌⛑️
I wish I found this tutorial before cutting and ruining my project
thank you so much for simplifying it.
thanks, this was incredibly helpful
Does that Bevel sit flush on the paper? I've been looking for one to do this with but I can't seem to find one that you can trace the angle with that sits flush. The blade seems to attach in the middle of the handle part. Any advice?
This method is also a good visual to understand how laying a bisecting cut angle works when cutting a sheet material into any triangular shape such as would be done when sheathing a bay window for example.
That's what we called Construction Loci. Awesome application!
And that's why a compass is sometimes called a divider :-)
Really? Is that where the name comes from? Honestly didn't know that! 👍😀🛠
A divider doesnt have a pencil it has two sharp points and as "compass" its a pair of dividers, (2 legs) as its a pair of compasses. A compass is to find direction.
Just what I needed to know. Replaced roofing felt and old fascia boards on garden shed - thanks.
Perfect timing. I need this next week. Lol
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Gosforth Handyman try
Learned to bisect angles in high school geometry class. By far the most useful class if your interested in building things. In reality it’s so much easier to use an angle finder but it’s nice to learn how to do it manually.
really good tip and simple to follow cheers
Cheers - no worries! 👍
Very well explained! Thanks so much for sharing
Thanks for this watched other ways you made it simple as I am lol. But thanks.
Just bought a sliding bevel gauge and this is very useful. Thank you.
Very good and thurough
I found that really interesting and beautifully explained, thank you
Great video mush , yeah old taught me that . Easy but still a great view . Many thanks
Top tip. Thanks. I've got an angle that is at 60° and I want to put a mitred joint where it meets as it is a moulding (Roman ogee) that I'm trying to fit.
What's is the process for a combination mitred (45°) to get a 60° combination. I tried putting a 45°/30° combination and it didn't work. What am I doing wrong? This job has been waiting for 10yrs.
kooky flukes - I'm not sure if I completely understand the problem but this may help. woodgears.ca/miter/ Matthias Wandel has a lookup grid for splayed mitre angles
Yeah - I'm not sure either. Would really need to see a pic. If it's a 60 degree join you need two 30 degree mitres... but I might have the wrong end of the stick. 👍🛠
Soundslike you need to scribe it. Search scribe skirting board.
If it's A 60 degree angle you need to set the saw to 30 degrees
A 45degree mitre only works for a 90 degree joint
Another way to save your angle is glue and screw 2 scraps of wood to a piece of ply.
Angle finder thingy
wish I add seen this video first I could have saved myself 25 quid I bought a trend angle finder.
That was a superhero level explanation of how to do this! Thanks so much!
Thank you sir!!!
Can this method be used for cutting concrete cappings
Thank you so much, Andy, for this tutorial. I live in LA but I'm from Stockton and I said to myself, 'trust a Geordie to make it simple to understand.' Great job! Now the missus is going to think I'm even smarter still when I'm building stuff around the house.
Great listening to you mate. Thank you. 👍👍👍
Brilliant,! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍👍🇬🇧
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Thanks Andy, its good to watch a video like this to refresh the memory. Thanks for putting the video out!
Very helpful. Now I know how to cut the perfect angle!
hi thanks for that did not know this Thanks
No worries! 👍😀
Can this technique be used for ceiling coving?
COOL! Thx
I am carpenter and I very like the angle work on wood but I not know
Isn’t easier to just find the angle and divide it by 2?
Great video. Your a great teacher.
Cheers Chris! 👍🛠
Very informative video. Thanks.