Full Libertarian Debate: Sam Seder & Former Libertarian Presidential Candidate
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- In this Majority Report clip, former Libertarian Party presidential hopeful Darryl Perry joins the show to debate Sam Seder. It doesn't exactly go all that well, and it definitely ends badly.
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DAMNIT SAM! NOBODY HAS ALL THE ANSWERS TO HOW FREEDOM WORKS!
That was the best.
MrSporkster I swear they're all quacks
THAT'S WHY FREEDOM IS SO IMPORTANT.
neandrewthal BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS!
I ALSO LOVE FREEDOM! GO BACK TO NORTH VENEZUELA PSYCHO-SAM!
PSYCHO-SAM THE MADMAN!
everytime a libertarian gets questioned you can see they REALLY haven't thought this whole thing through
Just like Democrats and Republicans.
what party do you support?
Same with leftists and progressives.
That’s because their philosophy about economics is a sheer fantasy
It's buzzwords and ideology, like a cult or something basically. You can't disprove the bible with reason, you can't disprove libertarianism with reason, because neither are based on reason
"I don't know what time the sun will set on June 31, 2102!"
"You can look that up online"
Comedy gold.
I looked it up. It's 8:08 PM 😂
@@Titanvol91 June 31st doesn't exist
@@stealthpiglet1007 i looked up June 30th* 2102
mhesen2009 ohh gotcha
@@stealthpiglet1007 technically it's July 01
Sam: "Hey, so how would this work under your proposed system?"
Daryl: "How DARE you ask me to explain my system."
What an incredibly childish performance from Daryl.
Hey, who needs an explanation of his system; he has an IDEOLOGY!
That shit was certifiably hilarious....I have never heard such a half-assed diatribe of nonsensical cognitive dissonance as this...and this dude was a candidate for president??? WOW-
I don't know what party is more dumb, the republicans or the libertarians
Freedom is not not a 'system'
James Gambill the libs are dumb the republicans are evil corporate shills but then again so are the dems they just recognize that in order to maintain there safety they to have to appease the unwashed masses to a certain extent.
Sam: "Daryl"
Daryl: "Sam"
Sam: "Daryl"
Daryl: "Sam"
Sam: "Daryl"
Daryl: "Sam"
Sam: "Sam."
Darryl: "Darr- dammit!"
@@fds7476 heh Sam Seder Def has Bugs Bunny energy sometimes.
Jonathan!
Charlotte!
Jonathan!
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Jonathan!
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Jonathan!
Charlotte!
@@PR--un4ub underrated
@@katanaman444 Thank you.
History has shown the most effective way to piss off an idiot is to ask for details.
@thesparitan It is, however If I am not the first to think of this, I would not be surprised.
“Explain it for us”
THIS guy was a presidential candidate? He has the patience and attitude of an adolescent 14 year old who has no impulse control. This is really sad and disturbing.
You missed pathetic, but also sad.
more like 5 year old. i was a lot more restrained than this at 14.
Hence why he is not our nominee.
could you imagine this ass hat having the nuclear codes?!?! We'd be fucked as a country
LOL How are all of you feeling right about now with ol' Trump? Darryl sounds pretty intelligent right about now
Wow. This guy shouldn't be in charge of a lemonade stand.
lol SO TRUE....and this was a presidential candidate??? he can't even convince ONE person that his beliefs are valid. he just gets mad and leaves...yeah. real useful.
but its HIS own personal lemonade stand
Just think about this for a second. He was a presidential candidate so there absolutely MUST be someone that is even crazier. I can't wait to see the person that tops this guy.
+Nethr anyone can run. he received very few votes.
Mark hilgenberg
That just makes me wonder if the people that voted for him, however few they may be, are just as crazy as he is.
you can't force me to centrally plan liberty, Sam.
why do libertarians always over-pronounce random words?
That's not freedom, that's chaos.
@Shawn William I'M A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. AND I'M NOT EVEN REMOTELY INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING HOW I'D DO MY JOB!
Indeed we cannot
but liberty is still liberty, no matter how it's given. thought libertarians were all about hoarding liberty
"You can look that up online" Sam just ended this man's whole career
*FULL* Libertarian Debate
Time Length: *25 mins 11 secs*
This isn’t going to end well lol
"NOBODY HAS THE ANSWERS ON HOW FREEDOM WORKS!"
Especially you, dude.
WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM, SAM?
As a libertarian socialist i don´t see these right wing libertarians as real libertarians but as extreme capitalists and extreme liberals
+Ecléctico Iconoclasta you'd be correct. Libertarian socialist is actually a redundancy. Libertarians have historically been the anarchist socialist wing of socialism
+Ecléctico Iconoclasta That's the thing, they do care about liberty. They're just selective about who liberty is given to.
Nathan Payne
mainly to the richest people. For the rest they advocate taking us back to the 19th century or even to feudalism
Ecléctico Iconoclasta Exactly
These extremists libertarians are children. They're not mature enough to understand they have adult obligations.
@sorry mrgoogle Is this satire?
It's such a childish belief
"WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?"
Incredible. Straight from the crowd that complains the most about "PC culture," this guy just ends the interview because he feels offended at the answer to some obvious hypothetical scenario.
If you don't follow the laws you go in jail. Even a 5 year old understands that.
and everyone o0f you idiots would have the US still a colony because you are state worshipping cowards
modurhead Except for the fact that the founding fathers themselves were statists e.g. the whole point of them establishing the constitution as a replacement for the Articles of Confederation was to increase federal power. And actually, even the Articles of Confederation was a statist document. It simply had a weak central government while still having considerably powerful state governments.
You don't have to favor a monarchy over democracy (which, ironically I guess, is actually what AnCaps/libertarians are known for doing e.g. Hoppe) in order to be a statist. You can be a statist that favors one kind of state over another, especially one that involves a participatory government system where the general public gets a share of influence over policy.
"and everyone o0f you idiots would have the US still a colony because you are state worshipping cowards" This is what passes for intelligent discourse for libertarians and why debating them is a waste of time
Maybe it wasn't so hypothetical after all. For all we know, this winner is one of these goofy tax protestors who just hasn't been busted yet.
I can already tell you have he/him in your social media bios
The actual nerve to call you a despicable person when he believes people should be allowed to buy child sex slaves and businesses should be allowed to ban black people from entering. Irony doesn't even cover it.
Darryl: starts a little farmstead called Darrylstan where he can live in “perfect freedom”
Darryl when the lights don’t turn on: 😟
Darryl when me and my 5 buddies show up with AKs to enforce our property rights: 😱
If I had a dollar for every time Sam tried to get me to centrally plan liberty I could singlehandedly fund Medicare for All
Holy shit. That escalated quickly.
That guy needs to understand that challenging someone's ideas and trying to piss someone off are different things.
Someone should tell this to Sam Harris
@@TWFarr Wut?
I've never seen Sam Harris flip out like this.
He's normally the person criticizing or challenging things in a calm manner.
Wow. He threw a tantrum. That's the sound of logic falling off the edge of libertarian lunacy. He didn't have an answer to a logical question. That's why he had an outburst.
I am learning of the Legend of Sam after Crowder got real cold feet
sam seder casually demolishing libertarians is one of the longest running and most consistently entertaining rabbit holes of content on the internet lmao
Welcome
Ditto
Nice!
The coldest feet. Triple socks
"don't centrally plan me bro"
it totally harshes my buzz
I googled "Libertarianism is adult Dungeons and Dragons" and was not the least bit surprised to get numerous hits.
That's fucking ridiculous, DND has a well thought out functioning system.
@@pietzsche winner!!!
That’s unfair to D&D players.
This is legit what I experience most of the time debating libertarians: the second you back them into a corner they start trying to exert emotional control by getting rude and then they exit the conversation as soon as possible. Same thing with other libertarians like Stefan Molyneux. They just can't handle others opinions.
A fun question for libertarians is how they expect "competition" to get rid of monopolies if they end antitrust laws. I guess they have never heard of natural monopolies, either.
sorry mrgoogle So: if there’s one company that builds all the roads in a city and puts a toll on the roads, how do you get to work?
@sorry mrgoogle I don't think you understand what a monopoly is or how it impacts society and it's people.
@@wvu05 Another good one is to ask how they plan to deal with the tragedy of the commons without any entity to make sure people don't just straight up ruin the environment or whatever. That's another classic.
@@ChewyThomson The most ridiculous black hole I ever went down with one was finding out this was a special kind of stupid: the individual sovereign types who think that they should just be able to declare their private property to be its own country. I asked if he would need a passport to reenter the United States or pay tariffs for anything he ordered in the mail. He then got mad and sad that I was focusing on distractions. These are clearly people who never thought it through.
I don't understand - capitalism is about taking the fruits of other people's labour by paying them less than the value of that labour - it's called profit.
That was my very first thought when they started the debate. You don't like people talking from you the fruits of your labor, then you must really hate free market capitalism. He essentially uses the same bullshit argument that every capitalist uses and that's that the free market will somehow make everything magically work out for the best if it wasn't for pesky governmental regulations.
You need to have a consistent definition of value. The value in the market is realized in the exchange of goods and services as the negotiated price. There is a negotiated price, therefore, they are paid the value of their labor.
@@enjerth78
The money doesn't all go to the laborers, a lot goes to the owners.
@@help4343 If the laborers don't have the equipment to do what they want to do, they can find an employer who has it, and enter mutually beneficial arrangement. What's wrong with that?
@@help4343 lmaooo this has gotta be one of the most easily debunked Marxist ideas. It’s pretty fucking simple why laborers don’t have the full value of their labor. They don’t own the materials they are working with, they don’t own the production space, they don’t pay workers insurance etc.
oh this libertarian is the one who said (referring to drivers licenses)
"what's next? a license to make toast in your own damn toaster?"
@@meg1279
Nope. Safety activists would just request that the toaster is certified to be used safely by consumers. That's all. You're projecting.
It’s a slippery slope!
@@meg1279
also you operating a toaster in your own home and killing yourself with it, doesnt endanger anyone else.
you operating a vehicle without the most basic understanding on how to operate a vehicle(whish is the purpose of the exams for a drivers license) puts not just you at a huge risk, but EVERYONE else who is on the road while you're driving.....
do you think medics should be certified by a central authority that makes sure they know at least the basics of medicine?
what about electricians?
plumbers?
I'd feel a lot better if that guy had a license to use a toaster
An icon
This will go down as the most legendary debate of humankind. Not because it was insightful; it was like Sam was a Mortal Kombat character delivering a fatality on Darryl. It's just one of the funniest things I've ever witnessed.
" the most legendary debate of humankind?" C'mon sister...what you are smoking must be way more chronic than mine. But yeah, Seder sent this tool packing.
Go watch some Chomsky debates you youngster.
Not sure if you've listened to Sams conversations with Walter Block but they are pretty classic as well.
mmzen Thanks. But that's probably because I'm in a darkened room.
mmzen Ha! I'll run with that!
HOLD ON SAM! HOLD ON! YOU'RE ASKING ME TO EXPLAIN MYSELF, AND I AM NOT INTERESTED IN THAT SAM! YOU ARE A MAD MAN!
this guy reacts the same way some people do when you point out the plot holes in fight club, dark knight rises and ayn rand books
what are the plot holes on fight club?
there are no plot holes in fight club.
we dont talk about fight club!
fuck you!!!!
*breaks his own computer*
Are there plot holes in fight club?
I’m almost certain there are no plot holes in Fight Club. I’ve watched it several times now.
Hey there are no plot holes in The Dark Knight Rises you libtard. I'm not here to debate the plot of movies, I'm going to hang up now!!
Had to watch this after David Pakman put together "why the right are afraid to debate the left".
same lol
@@dexterkrammer1089 wtf r u talking about
@@rickymoen9482 Hannan probably sperged out and then claimed that he won the debate.
Rightoids are the pigeons the chess analogy mentions.
Reminds me of the Family Guy episode when Peter declared his property to be a separate nation called Petoria. Even in cartoons you can see how flawed their way of thinking is.
LOL he's so angry and keeps yelling and talking over Sam, so he mishears Sam, accuses him off saying things he didn't *because* he mishears him due to his own rudeness, and it's an hilarious positive feedback loop.
Classic.
This guy is genuinely out of his mind. A modern, technologically advanced society cannot cohesively function without some form of government and taxation.
Roads?
Schools?
Just PAY for them. What's that? Schools are how we fix poverty???
Well, not my problem
@@nukiradio To be fair to Libertarians, they dont want a modern society. They dont want a large country with millions or billions of people in it.
I honestly don't know how big of a country/society they would find acceptable, but what currently exists clearly isnt it.
@@sosarian Or you can come up with a reasonable solution to the problems you see in society.
Wow, Poor Daryyl, joins in with a battle of wits, and he came unarmed.
HOLD ON SAM. HOLD ON!
this is a great channel
I love Sam trying not to burst out laughing as Darryl starts to rage and threatens to drop the call. That was gold.
Hasn't this Libertarian ever heard of Ted Kaczinsky? He lived in the woods completely free of government.
LOL, Didn't get the chair in the end for sending nail bombs to da gubment?
When are you doing another video, by the way?
Ted Kaczynski aka the Unabomber is still alive and serving a life sentence in prison. Also, I wouldn't necessarily describe him as a libertarian. He was a radical environmentalist who believed that industrial society would inevitably destroy life on earth unless radical action was taken.
Ted Kaczincky violates the non-aggression principle. Ted Kaczinsky is not a Libertarian.
Dustin Hawk Ted Kazinsky is not a Libertarian. Plus progressives are becoming more socialist ands fascist. They have more of an entitlement mentality already. And name call those who disagrees with them or even get violent.
It looks like people are completely misunderstanding the original point: it's not that Kaczynski is a libertarian, but that he lived without governmental interference. I'm not sure if that is completely true. (If "Manhunt" is to be believed, he did use the public library.) Still, he did largely live a life of self-sufficiency.
I like how he's supposedly running for an office where he'll have to handle difficult, complex issues and can barely articulate his own philosophy. If he folds on the Majority Report, how can we expect him to stand up to Putin?
Well, it sounds like Sam find a libertarian who isn't an unhinged lunat-
13:43 Never mind.
Darryl yelling ‘you are a mad man Sam’ should be Sam Seder ring tone.
I want to replace government with government....
poo shoveler That doesn’t ask me to pay income tax. That’s it. This is the whole libertarianism.
HOLD ON SAM! DAMMIT SAM! LOL
Whenever I am having a bad day, I just pull this video up and I'm all smiles and laughs. The day always gets better after this.
Is Darryl interested in centrally planning liberty? I couldn't tell.
Hilarious ending, that dude was pretty darn passive-aggressive for someone who professes the virtues of non-aggression.
Good point there
Hahahahahaha how am I just finding this
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME THE SUN WILL SET ON JUNE 31ST OF 2102!!!!"
"You can look that up online."
Well you could if there were actually a June 31st. 😂
LMAO @ 17:20 "Darryl, Darryl, Darryl, Darryl, Darryl"
15:32 "...there would be some kind of coming together to try to figure out exactly who the owner is."
I'm pretty sure there's a word for that but i just can't seem to think of it. Ummm.......it starts with a G and i think it ends with uuhhh.......ummmm........ OVERNMENT?
"So you're asking me to centralize liberty?" No dude he's just asking for a solution to a problem. If you can't come up with a solution to that problem without centralization, then you're just admitting defeat.
Darryl Perry's plans would work at a time when our property and possessions consisted of a cave and a flint axe. This was just too damn funny.
20:59
Read: "Thank you for giving me a reason to feign outrage and escape this uncomfortable debate I can't make sense in."
Me at 13:00 mark: This is probably the toughest fight a Libertarian has put up so far. Calm, collected, giving straight answers, and not letting Seder control the framing of the argument.
14:00 mark: oh
Guy lost it the second they switched from abstract principles to real-life implementation.
Oh my god sams face when Darryl has his first outburst is fucking PRICELESS
Funny how these people think the laws, govts and rules we have were created for no real reason.
Majority Report Libertarian debates are like a public service to humanity
Lol his freakout at 13:43 comes completely out of nowhere
If you buy your own piece of land, you're still depending on the road network and defence force of the country it's located in. So you can't exactly claim to be independent.
Which is why we need the Scandinavian model lol
Free healthcare paid by taxes etc.
Exactly
And we all know what happened to small politically independent tribes sitting on valuable land with no “official” property deed set up (💀)
I know this is old, but it's golden! I wonder why the public haven't made him president?
The free state of Daryl is hilarious.
6 years and i still laugh this off like the very first time i watched this beautiful debate
Comedy gold to warm the heart of the most pesimistic liberal!
What's going to happen to disabled people that can't work? I guess in the libertarian utopia those people just die.
And fire brigades, ambulances and police work from the kindness of their heart.
Libertarian: I WANT YOU TO SAY THAT I BELONG IN JAIL BECAUSE I DONT PAY TAXES!
Sam: If you don’t pay to the U.S. government ultimately I think you belong in jail
Libertarian: Thank you for saying that Sam. You are a horrible, despicable person. Thank you for having me on your show.
Sam’s reaction when said that it’s priceless. Hahaha
Sam is a stronger man than I'll ever be for being able to hold in his laughter at 13:45
Literally same
I LOST it when Perry deepened his voice on the second "HOLD oN!"
I can’t believe how well these videos age. This is GOLD!
I really love how a voice snippet from this call has lived on in the intro to the "Fun Half" of the show.
June 31st, 2102 doesn't exist.
GundamFan89 Sure, it doesn’t now, but that will change because a truly free market will create a demand for it, and someone with ingenuity will make it, and then the price of days in June will fall for everyone because there will be more supply. So obvious!
He articulated the Marxist theory of property in such a poor way at 7:30.
WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM, SAM???
"I think you should exercise your freedom by calling him back" Oh Michael my brother you are sorely missed man 😭😭😭 fucking hilarious
wow shocker, a libertarian man child. who could’ve guessed
Sam: How would property rights get established in a libertarian society?
Darryl: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RUN YOUR LIFE!!!
I have a very simple way to establish property rights:
You have one dude and one gun
I have five dudes and five guns
Your property belongs to me
If you say that’s wrong, you’re violating my freedom because you were trespassing on my property
@@52flyingbicycles Sounds like utopia!
I know when the sun will set on June 31, 2022, without looking it up.
Never.
There are only 30 days in June.
Not in Daryl's Libertarian paradise, where there are no such rules as "months" and "numbers," because that would be central planning by the Big Calendar authority.
I think he said 21st.
@@SteveGellerMusic actually, there will be competing entities who will take care of that. Like Daryll said competing groups will provide it lollll
@@bigboy9661 nods.
David McWilliams he said 31st
So, first off really like the show. But, is this guy Darryl for real? Is this a comedy piece? He was very simple at best.
He was a Libertarian Party presidential candidate.
For being a proponent of the non aggression principle, Darryl got angry fast.
‘A principle of non-aggression’.... proceeds to lose his shit and gets aggressive. Classic. This is classic.
Dam... I miss Michael's commentary so much.
Do you think I can centrally plan an abstract concept?!? DO YOU!!!!??
Lol this got me
Apparently the Free State of Darryl has it's own calendar. June 31st 2102 is like saying you have a vacation home in Candy Land. But sunset will be about 8:16 pm on July 1 2102 (aka June 31 2102).
Sam: so I'm just trying to understand...
Guy on the phone: your pissing me off man by asking me questions
Libertarians are prone to abuse the right not to think deeply like this caller.
Sam: Could you please explain your ideology, the system of it and your presidential platform and how’d you implement it?
Daryl: DAMN IT SAM!! NO ONE HAS THESE ANSWERS!!! Hangs up….
13:43 lmao him holding in his laughin made me laugh even harder
Libertarism is just an appeal to selfishness. From whatever sources, I accumulated my assets (even if I likely used the government to obtain a bit in some fashion), but I don't want to share even the tiniest percent for both my on protection, maintenance of the structures I may use around me that could help others as well (schools, libraries, heath centers, city hall/government), and to leave me completely alone unless I NEED YOU (invasion by a stronger force). It's the dumbest thing ever.
"Darryl--"
"Sam--"
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Bro, the moment at 13:33 made me laugh my ass off. "HOLD ON SAM!!!! HOLD ON!!!! LET ME FINISH MY THOUGHT". If Sam had said, "Well, whose going to enforce that wish in your world?", I think I would've died laughing! The trigger level went through the roof
Sam “now now let’s have a talk”
Dan “NO YOUR NOT MY DAD!”
Another alleged libertarian who does not understand land as a pre existing asset by definition cannot be 'fruits of labour' therefor if anything is the legitimate function of government it is the establishment of this property right. Ironically were the economic rents of land taxed there would be little to no need for taxes on labour or capital, taxing land is as Adam Smith put it 'the natural source of Government revenue'.
if this guy couldn't take on a youtuber, what makes this guy fit for president of the fuckin United State?
I don’t think daryl ever recovered from this debate
Lmao “mental health heavyweight”
"Nobody has the right to force someone to do anything! Now listen to what I'm saying or I'll disconnect!"
For claiming to be such intellectual HeavyWeights, it is really amazing how these libertarians think that they would be able to, in a vacuum, work out property right disputes between two opposing parties with competing interests. Yet they can't have a calm, rational, & reasonable debate without having an eruption of unjustified rage.
"HOLD ON! HOLD ON SAM!!! Damn it Sam, NOBODY HAS ALL THE ANSWERS ON HOW FREEDOM WORKS! Thats why freedom is so important!"
-Daryl of House Daryl, from the State of Daryl, FORMER LIBERTARIAN ORESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE who, apparently REALLY loves freedom and, even more so, LOVES riding the RAGE TRAIN!
OMG HAHA, this guy is a true rage-A-Holic! He snaps over and over. A typicsl and out of control, "cool headed," Central Planner of Freedom and Liberty!
FINAL SCORE:
SAM: 126
LIBERTARIANS: 0
Walter Block: -75
Daryl is so typical of his kind, they all think they have all the answers, yet csn not move beyond mere theory into realistic applications.
Sam forgot that the libertarian guy is perfectly capable of owning himself. Whoops.
Dang, this guy’s system would lead to chaos and poor people absolutely screwed over.
This should really be turned into a stage play.
The flaw with most libertarians is they want a gentleman's anarchy. They don't see that anarchy doesn't work that way.
Outlawkk they mostly want to fund less pointless wars. The biggest expense, by far.
@@ryanlankford8634 Which is fine but that isnt a solely Libertarian position.
If there are other philosophies that can compete with the "no pointless wars" stance, then Libertarians will have to compete ideologically.
That means conflict and, regardless of their stance on aggression, they need to defend their points and values. Refusing to engage in ideological battle might make you the moral victor, but its a hollow and self-serving one.
I hope they realize that one day.
Compare to actual Anarchism, which depends on consensus decision making for mutual benefit. Both of which Darryl thinks are worse than Hitler.
he got so mad so fast at the smallest amount of pushback.
sam's face was priceless.
When he started yelling I legit thought this was a joke. I Googled his name and holy shit he's for real
He’s one of the crazier ones for sure.
Six years later, and they still haven’t come up with any answers to Sam’s questions 😂😂😂 that outburst just came out of nowhere lmaooo
Forgive my ignorance, but what Daryl describes sounds more like anarchy.
A Skeptical Human anarchy is free of hierarchy. Daryl is describing a world of oligarchs and feudalism.
Anarchy is the logical and political extrapolation of libertarianism
YOU ARE A MADMAN SAM! whats up from 2019
What's up from 2021! You won't believe what's been goin on, Popeye's chicken finally got nuggets, pretty wild right?