HEY GUYS! HERE'S A LINK TO WHERE YOU CAN BUY THE BLADE AND ANVIL STYLE CUTTER TO SAFELY AND ACCURATELY CUT FUSE:www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037IX2BG/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0037IX2BG&linkId=7791654d02d310187e3867a28940f85a Here's a link to the best tape IMO: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LNYE4E/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000LNYE4E&linkId=166ef7a17803272643360dc7eabb3165
I had always used masking tape in the past and never had issues. I just did a test pre-show yesterday to try out my new firing system and thought I would "upgrade" to zip ties and had over a dozen mortars that didn't ignite out of 180 ( almost 10% failure). I think I will go back to tape for my 4th of July show so I don't have this issue in the future. I also did as you do with multiple volleys in a single 25 shot rack and I used foil sheets. I will say the really thin foil sheets used for food service (bought at Sam's ) don't make that much of a mess since they are so thin . Just wanted to share that. Thanks for this video, I will try the Brick and Mortar Green Masking tape on my second show.
Sounds like you and I had the exact same experience with the zip ties. I'm telling you, the green masking has never let me down! Good idea on the thin foil, makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to comment and good luck building your show!
I’ve used tape and zip ties. The first year I did a show the tape came off because of the humidity and moisture on the 4th. I then went to zip ties and had a few failures but overall worked. I tried some stuff over NYE and combined both tape and zip ties and it worked pretty good. But I just ordered a firing system so I won’t need to fuse much except for the shells, which i’ll do a sleeve of tape around the fuses and a zip tie or two around it, and that has always worked. Thanks for all the info! After the first year, i’d never go back to blue tape. I do use that aluminum foil tape over my shells though!
Good info, thanks for sharing and congrats on stepping up your game with the firing system. You're going to enjoy the show so much more with that it's ridiculous!
when linking det cord in the military the tried and true method was 6" of tape to tape contact using standard electrical tape. You could also try friction tape, but it's probably too expensive. Using the electrical tape, if after you stretch and adhere it you also adhere a few turns without stretching it, it won't unravel. I tried small zip ties this year, and they worked great, however, I also snipped the fuses (fish scale pattern) along the sides where the fuses were joined together, and made certain to put the snips facing each other so the loose powder was all touching. Another couple of other tips that have served me well from my time in the military is to always fuse items together by maintaining point of initiation coming from upstream. In other words, don't take fuse off of another fuse in a direction that faces away from the direction of travel the fuse is burning in. In high explosives this MATTERS. The shock wave will blow out the end of the det cord and you get a misfire. Bad Day. Just do it right. You should also put the initiating fuse beneath the secondary fuse so that the heat from the initiating fuse is forced UP and into the secondary fuse above it, as heat rises. Make certain to use a priming loop as well if possible. A priming loop is when you fold the first couple of inches of cord back onto itself so that you have twice as much heat and surface area as the initiating fuse begins to burn through the secondary fuse. Cover the entire priming loop with tape to tape contact. Start your measurement for timing after the secondary fuse splits off from the initiating fuse. So, in other words, if you need 24 inches of fuse to time your device, add 6 inches to that, and fold the last 6" over 3" long so you have a double priming loop. Lay that flat along the initiating fuse and tape it the entire length. Where this becomes difficult is when you are stuck working with the small green fuses that come pre-rammed into the device, and taking it out is more trouble than it is worth. I suppose you could carefully hand drill another hole into the cardboard tube, but to me it never seemed worth it. I just fish scale the fuses, use small zip ties on both ends, and then tape between the two ties. I have personally had good luck splitting the end of the secondary fuse about 3/8" and then overlaying the split over the initiating fuse, then zip tie-ing the tail off the opposite side so that it isn't really choking either fuse anywhere it could ever out the fire. I hope this helps!
Hello, I bought some batteries from you, the firework has two wicks. 1 Starter, second spare. If you attach a second battery to the spare wick, will it work? Or what's the best way to do it? Thank you)
Just do a google search, there are plenty of places that will ship right to your door. Overstockcentralfireworks.com or Fireworksplus.com, there are plenty of other places you can check out.
Actually I believe that the green high adhesion tape you're referring to is green lacquer tape excellent stuff it's very high adhesion almost has a 100% moisture barrier it is what they use in auto body shops and high end residential painters like me use it too although it is a bit pricey but you get what you pay for...
Any tips on transitioning from a faster fuse to a slower fuse? I seem to keep having my fuse stop in the middle of shows. Seems like it happens when going from pink hobby fuse to green cannon fuse. Thanks
A nether way is to build separate holders so they are not next to each other if you do it out of aluminum it would be light weight and it will last longer than wood. I would look in your area for used aluminum it would be much cheaper
No secret but they can be tough to find ever since the biggest producer of them in China stopped making it. I get mine at a local fireworks store and that's usually the best option as everything except cannon fuse is really hard to find online.
Have you set up your fused show and lit it during rain? Wondering if the show will go or what's your solution for rain on show day? Thanks for any info
Sure thing, here ya go: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LNYE4E/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000LNYE4E&linkId=166ef7a17803272643360dc7eabb3165
I've used duct tape for many years with no problems until about 2 years ago. I started fusing a show about 2 months early and was storing the boards in storage buildings during the summer with very high humidity. When we started moving the boards to the field on shoot night, I noticed dozens and dozens of connections were unraveling. It turned out not to be a major problem. Ended up using a little extra pieces of duct tape here and there and everything fired just fine, but I didn't like what I saw. This upcoming Labor Day will be the first show I've fused since then. I've been using duct tape first, then zip ties at each end of the tape. I've done a lot of testing with the zip ties after taping. I've done several tests with getting the zip ties as tight as possible and had no failures. I'm a firm believer that tape connections contain that fire and help with pass fire. I wouldn't recommend using zip ties as tight as you can, but just pointing out they don't normally stop pass fire if the fuses are contained within tape.
I typically fire 1.3 commercially so our finale’ chains are pre-matched with quick match. Personally I’ve had good success with 1.4 with zip ties but yes, you have to have a real good “feel” for tensioning them. Otherwise they have some reliability issues. Ultimately experience will solve everything!
I used zips and all kinds of tape. This year I used duct tape. It is now my favorite. The only thing is it's to wide and sloppy. So I would rip a piece off 3-4 inches long then rip that long ways into 3 strips. It has maximum holding strength.
HEY GUYS! HERE'S A LINK TO WHERE YOU CAN BUY THE BLADE AND ANVIL STYLE CUTTER TO SAFELY AND ACCURATELY CUT FUSE:www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037IX2BG/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0037IX2BG&linkId=7791654d02d310187e3867a28940f85a Here's a link to the best tape IMO: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LNYE4E/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000LNYE4E&linkId=166ef7a17803272643360dc7eabb3165
I bought 2000 worth of fireworks and this was helpful so I could light once and watch
I am so glad i watched this video before I went to buy zip ties. I found the green tape and used it to fuse. I worked perfectly.
thanks.
I had always used masking tape in the past and never had issues. I just did a test pre-show yesterday to try out my new firing system and thought I would "upgrade" to zip ties and had over a dozen mortars that didn't ignite out of 180 ( almost 10% failure). I think I will go back to tape for my 4th of July show so I don't have this issue in the future. I also did as you do with multiple volleys in a single 25 shot rack and I used foil sheets. I will say the really thin foil sheets used for food service (bought at Sam's ) don't make that much of a mess since they are so thin . Just wanted to share that. Thanks for this video, I will try the Brick and Mortar Green Masking tape on my second show.
Sounds like you and I had the exact same experience with the zip ties. I'm telling you, the green masking has never let me down! Good idea on the thin foil, makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to comment and good luck building your show!
So yall are saying put the foil over the pipes and cover the hole. This year will be the first time I use a mortar rack and make sure it's right
I’ve been doing this for over 20 years packing tape from uhaul by far the best tape you can use never had anything that didn’t ignite
Same
I’ve used tape and zip ties. The first year I did a show the tape came off because of the humidity and moisture on the 4th. I then went to zip ties and had a few failures but overall worked. I tried some stuff over NYE and combined both tape and zip ties and it worked pretty good. But I just ordered a firing system so I won’t need to fuse much except for the shells, which i’ll do a sleeve of tape around the fuses and a zip tie or two around it, and that has always worked. Thanks for all the info! After the first year, i’d never go back to blue tape. I do use that aluminum foil tape over my shells though!
Good info, thanks for sharing and congrats on stepping up your game with the firing system. You're going to enjoy the show so much more with that it's ridiculous!
when linking det cord in the military the tried and true method was 6" of tape to tape contact using standard electrical tape. You could also try friction tape, but it's probably too expensive. Using the electrical tape, if after you stretch and adhere it you also adhere a few turns without stretching it, it won't unravel. I tried small zip ties this year, and they worked great, however, I also snipped the fuses (fish scale pattern) along the sides where the fuses were joined together, and made certain to put the snips facing each other so the loose powder was all touching. Another couple of other tips that have served me well from my time in the military is to always fuse items together by maintaining point of initiation coming from upstream. In other words, don't take fuse off of another fuse in a direction that faces away from the direction of travel the fuse is burning in. In high explosives this MATTERS. The shock wave will blow out the end of the det cord and you get a misfire. Bad Day. Just do it right. You should also put the initiating fuse beneath the secondary fuse so that the heat from the initiating fuse is forced UP and into the secondary fuse above it, as heat rises. Make certain to use a priming loop as well if possible. A priming loop is when you fold the first couple of inches of cord back onto itself so that you have twice as much heat and surface area as the initiating fuse begins to burn through the secondary fuse. Cover the entire priming loop with tape to tape contact. Start your measurement for timing after the secondary fuse splits off from the initiating fuse. So, in other words, if you need 24 inches of fuse to time your device, add 6 inches to that, and fold the last 6" over 3" long so you have a double priming loop. Lay that flat along the initiating fuse and tape it the entire length. Where this becomes difficult is when you are stuck working with the small green fuses that come pre-rammed into the device, and taking it out is more trouble than it is worth. I suppose you could carefully hand drill another hole into the cardboard tube, but to me it never seemed worth it. I just fish scale the fuses, use small zip ties on both ends, and then tape between the two ties. I have personally had good luck splitting the end of the secondary fuse about 3/8" and then overlaying the split over the initiating fuse, then zip tie-ing the tail off the opposite side so that it isn't really choking either fuse anywhere it could ever out the fire. I hope this helps!
Hello, I bought some batteries from you, the firework has two wicks. 1 Starter, second spare. If you attach a second battery to the spare wick, will it work? Or what's the best way to do it? Thank you)
Where do you buy your fireworks? I’m looking for a place that doesn’t sell them at retail and I can buy a ton of them.
Just do a google search, there are plenty of places that will ship right to your door. Overstockcentralfireworks.com or Fireworksplus.com, there are plenty of other places you can check out.
What electronic ignition system do you use?
I find all those options work better when joining sticky side to sticky side. No rolling over onto non sticky side. That side is not meant to stick
Actually I believe that the green high adhesion tape you're referring to is green lacquer tape excellent stuff it's very high adhesion almost has a 100% moisture barrier it is what they use in auto body shops and high end residential painters like me use it too although it is a bit pricey but you get what you pay for...
Any tips on transitioning from a faster fuse to a slower fuse? I seem to keep having my fuse stop in the middle of shows. Seems like it happens when going from pink hobby fuse to green cannon fuse. Thanks
A nether way is to build separate holders so they are not next to each other if you do it out of aluminum it would be light weight and it will last longer than wood. I would look in your area for used aluminum it would be much cheaper
Hi. Is it a secret where to get the different types of fuses or is that a legally tricky question to answer? Please advise. Thanks
No secret but they can be tough to find ever since the biggest producer of them in China stopped making it. I get mine at a local fireworks store and that's usually the best option as everything except cannon fuse is really hard to find online.
Have you set up your fused show and lit it during rain? Wondering if the show will go or what's your solution for rain on show day? Thanks for any info
Interesting.. I'll definitely look in to this. I've had the issue of tape not sticking at times when I fuse it
Are you putting up any firework video’s this year? Always look forward to your stash/ set up videos.
I love tape...but in the summer w/ humidity...it often loses its stickiness due to all the moisture in the air and sweat on my hands.
Where are you getting your fuse from?
Can you provide the specific model number of the tape? There are many 3M Scotch tapes.
Sure thing, here ya go: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LNYE4E/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=trialnerror-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000LNYE4E&linkId=166ef7a17803272643360dc7eabb3165
I've used duct tape for many years with no problems until about 2 years ago. I started fusing a show about 2 months early and was storing the boards in storage buildings during the summer with very high humidity. When we started moving the boards to the field on shoot night, I noticed dozens and dozens of connections were unraveling. It turned out not to be a major problem. Ended up using a little extra pieces of duct tape here and there and everything fired just fine, but I didn't like what I saw.
This upcoming Labor Day will be the first show I've fused since then. I've been using duct tape first, then zip ties at each end of the tape. I've done a lot of testing with the zip ties after taping. I've done several tests with getting the zip ties as tight as possible and had no failures. I'm a firm believer that tape connections contain that fire and help with pass fire. I wouldn't recommend using zip ties as tight as you can, but just pointing out they don't normally stop pass fire if the fuses are contained within tape.
What about green frog tape??
Has anyone used electrical tape before that's what I was planning on using for mine tomorrow kinda nervous tho on if it work properly
I've used it and it will work but you run the risk of stopping the fuse if it's wrapped too tight since it's hard to burn it can snuff out the fuse.
I typically fire 1.3 commercially so our finale’ chains are pre-matched with quick match. Personally I’ve had good success with 1.4 with zip ties but yes, you have to have a real good “feel” for tensioning them. Otherwise they have some reliability issues. Ultimately experience will solve everything!
Plug me in with 1.3 cakes
@@Srt_Sayha lol… I would love to but those require the certs!
How come fireworks stores don’t sell rolls of fuse anymore?
There's a huge shortage on fuse. BIG stopped producing it last year and no one is really filling in the void.
Trial N' ERROR ohhh that’s why, I went to 6 different places and couldnt find any
Maybe they dont want people manufacturing their own fireworks both for safety and economy
Nice demonstration!👍🏾
You took 7 minutes and didn’t show how you connect the fuses together.
The art of saying a lot, but not saying anything.
you my friend are my Obi-Wan Kenobi...
I use foil tape. Contains the fire very well. Never had a fail using it.
@@Trialnerror Seems to be the drawback with most all fireworks & fusing. Leaves a lot of debris no matter what.
@@Trialnerror exactly
Years of trial and error I only use masking tape nowadays. I had a lot of errors with zips
I used zips and all kinds of tape. This year I used duct tape. It is now my favorite. The only thing is it's to wide and sloppy. So I would rip a piece off 3-4 inches long then rip that long ways into 3 strips. It has maximum holding strength.
Clothespins work if you need to do a fast reload
Never thought of that but what a damn good idea!
Great information, thanks
didn't know you could get fireworks moist at all.
U-haul paper tape
Anyone else use aluminum tape? Sticks great
Semi knowledgeable... lol jk thanks man, new years will be awesome!
Zip ties is the way in 2022
gr8 vid appreciate the tips.. subb ya