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I think a lot of people do not realise that Parramatta has significant early historical significance of European colonisation of Australia. I've grown up in the Parramatta area since the early 1990s and even now the change within the town centre is huge. It is good to see that Parramatta municipality is taking its history more seriously in trying to preserve (although Willowbank move is controversial). St Patrick's Cemetary for instance in the 1990s was not fenced and left to be in disrepair with headstones vandalised and kicked over. Just a little thing. The North Parramatta Bunnings site no longer exists. They moved to Redbank Avenue. They picture in the video is of the new site. The building foundation is there but Bunnings moved a while ago. I knew some of the history but your video is very good, well done. Thanks for making it!
Truly impressed with what you have to say, and just hope that you will be an inspiration for others to make equally valid comments. Keep watching coming shortly, “ Discovering Historic Parramatta,” which is based on, the link between what is still standing and Parramatta’s past. This is simply a call to anyone who knows a friendly Facebook Site, that might have viewers that are interested in what we are producing, particularly the above. Thanks once again
My family owned homes with moats, cellars where convicts were chained and shackled.. these have all been demolished. The way our NSW government has disrespected Parramatta makes me very angry
@@Jenb0854 The govt is not your friend no matter the persuasion. Just take a look out your window and ask yourself do you identify with those people inhabiting our heritage sites.
@@Jenb0854 Its been destroyed for a long time. This started way back when they got rid of the white Australia policy which was i no way racist, it was just a policy that recognized the strength of a homogenized society. This is exactly why they say diversity is a strength, because its not.
Great video guys. I love Parramatta. It has the same sort of textures and architectural “vocabulary” of Sydney that it sometimes feels like a specially constructed Australiana pioneer village. Parramatta Park is like Centennial Park, with the added bonus of having its own river.
Another glorious few words Mr. Batfinder, which just about sum up, what a revelation discovering Parramatta has been for our creator. As the man with the steak knives said, “there’s more to come.” Overwhelmed with information, but more than anything what is still standing that is a living time capsule in Parramatta. Give us a few more weeks and the more substantial and longer video “Discovering Historic Parramatta,” will be revealed. If I understand the Creator, it will be a tour of your “ specially constructed Australiana pioneer village.” The only difference however is that Phillip, aboriginal people, convicts, indeed humanity, down through the ages, have gazed upon the same landscape and what mankind has placed upon it , as we are privileged to do today. Surely we can do this without being distracted by fireworks or light shows? Good to hear from you again.
We know it is ten months since you made the comment, but we would just like to say how pleased we are at the numbers of viewers out two videos on Parramatta have received, particularly the one which is focused on history, as history in itself with other videos has been less than successful.
A very enjoyable and interesting video. Parramatta has changed so much over the years. I truly hope that the government retains a lot of the history that remains there.
Thanks for your encouraging comment. We share your hope that whichever government is in power, they will recognise the value heritage building have both culturally and something which binds us together as community as we delight in reflecting on our past. Having, as I’m sure you know, produced two videos largely based on the history of Parramatta, I feel I should say how pleased we are with the number of views they have had, be you residents, former residents, workers in the city of Parramatta or someone who shops, or visits, we thank you for your interest, and hope it makes your time in Parramatta more rewarding emotionally. Given your name, I think I should tell you that the creator is the woman’s voice on the videos. One of our hopes, not that we have been aware of so far, is that people in Suburban Sydney, might become more creative, regarding the use of history. By that we mean creating short or long stories, plays, poetry verse, and film. Thanks once again.
We are more than pleasantly surprised with the number of views this video has generated in just a few days. What we are interested in is why it should be so? I personally have very fond memories of taking my lunch, some twenty five years or so, in a park, where I could look upon the Lennox Bridge. In that I worked there, but didn’t reside in the area, is why I can still picture the pleasure in my head. On the 12th of June 1872, the Rev. Stanley Howard, after only three days in the colony wrote in his letter to his family in England: “we started off to the 11o’clock steam boat to go up the river, Parramatta, to a town of that name some ten miles away. There were numerous bays and inlets with islands occasionally, all covered with trees and underwood. Many beautiful houses peeped out from these lovely spots, in the gardens of which were orange trees and bananas……we chose the Woolpack Hotel for lunch, as we thought it the most likely to have a garden with oranges….we went out into the garden, where to our delight there was an orange tree covered with fruit, just like a well filled apple tree at home……I shall never forget picking my first from the tree.”
A recommendation for those who return to a specific video searching for a particular point of interest. Use “precise seeking” use your finger, stylus or cursor to drag the red line at the bottom left of your screen to the right. You should then see small but very clear pictures of what is being played on the RUclips video. After finding the picture you want, play it, or use “pinch and zoom” on a touch screen to enlarge the image for more detail. This you do by spreading or contracting the distance between your thumb and index finger whilst touching the image on the screen.
Thanks for the history guys really interesting! Would love to see a old Toongabbie/ Toongabbie episode since it was the 3rd settlement Afterall but in saying that there's not much left anymore
The Creator after a brief search, seems to agree with your assessment, but we are obviously still open to being convinced otherwise. It looks like a vast area, with Old Toongabbie in one corner and today’s Toongabbie in another. It is not that Toongabbie is alone in having very little history left, there are large areas across the North Shore which have swiftly gone from being orchards to modern suburbia.Toongabbie had of course its orchards. We aren’t chasing numbers of views with our choice of suburbs on RUclips. I would hope people would be linking Haberfield, Daceyville and Carrs Park, not greatly populated but each have an element of idealism in their creation. Something that some may see as missing from this present age.Our viewers constantly surprise us with what they choose to watch or not watch. At present whilst hoping that certain videos we have an affection for might have more views, we are delighted with our growth in hours watched and subscribers. Keep watching, as I am sure you will. Thanks for the comment.
@@stpeterscooksriver1873 yeah I can totally understand that and I'll watch no matter what you put up, I only just found this channel and I really like it , thank you for doing such good research.
@@stpeterscooksriver1873 also is there a way to join the history group? I'm only 30 but love learning history especially in Australia but I just don't know where to find alot of old information maybe you can point me in the right direction. Thank you
@@GLOBAL-STRUGGLE Thanks for your interest. The Creator spent this morning searching for pictures of Toongabbie. There are truly a vast number of pictures,(not just photographs) and of course there is a very early and full report on Toongabbie and the Vinegar Hill rebellion. You are so right in suggesting that nothing of the past remains, for when we started to look at modern Toongabbie all we seemed to get was real estate adverts. Could you have another look and tell us this is not so? We have recently been made aware by RUclips Analytics that the most popular sections of our video take in the period 1900-1975. We suspect this takes in the period from grandfather to grandchild. According to Analytics our viewers are 80% male, and substantially all over forty five. So you are indeed young. We have videos on specific items, houses, industry, James Cook, churches, graveyard, churches, which have few viewers, and the reason may well be that they are set in the period 1830- 1900. As for joining our group, we are but two people working together who tried when we first got the idea to have others from History Societies to join us but all were too busy. We are not adverse to joining with others for specific tasks. Our “Voice in the Graveyard,” featuring in an audio video theatrical form how some people met their deaths and are buried in St. Peters Cooks River is one of such instance. To listen to visit our website. The other problem is that we are close to being monetised by RUclips, which to us the money side is of no great value at all. However there are both challenges and opportunities which we some time will have to confront. One big one is getting closer to our audience and allowing them to feel more of a community. Meanwhile, now that we see you are a person who seems to be on the ‘same page,’ and can see the challenges and the limitations we have as to where we are geographically in relation to the vast area that is suburban Sydney, can we ask you keep you eye open across your area, for suitable suburbs. It is such as you who encourage us.
A question for our viewers. Why have our most popular RUclips videos been on, Kingsgrove, Glebe, Parramatta’s an historical time line and discovering history, Manly, Ryde and Concord. We would like to hear your views, particularly if you are a resident, employed in the area, or were either of these in the past. Glebe and Parramatta have we suspect a great sense of identity. Having worked in Parramatta, a lunchtime stroll down to the Lennox bridge and to sit beside the river was one of life’s pleasures, but why we ask are you watching?
We would like to thank all our viewers of “Parramatta - an historic timeline,” it has made a remarkable start regarding the number of views. We would like to commend our companion video, “Discovering Historic Parramatta,” which we have just uploaded. We are hoping that not only the people of Parramatta, might enjoy it, but also, those who work in the area, who might have a little leisure or lunch time to enjoy a stroll around the area. The areas include, Parramatta and Prince Alfred Parks, George St., Church St., O’Connell St., and Marsden St. Accompanying maps of each area, with the position of each building or object pinpointed, will we hope add something to your awareness of this remarkable city. May we suggest to our few American viewers, that they should make an effort to see beyond Sydney Harbour and that one of their destinies should be Parramatta.
Parramatta was the capital of NSW for a while in the early 19th century. If things had gone a little differently, Australia’s biggest city and metro area, probably still having over 5 million people in this timeline, would have been called “Parramatta”. By now it would have long sprawled from the foot of the Blue Mountains to the coast, absorbing the lively and disreputable sea port of “Sydney” and the distant seaside resorts of Manly and Bondi.
Parramatta was considered by Captain Arthur Phillip as a possible site for the Colony capital, but it never happened. Government House, Parramatta was the country residence for ten Governors between 1800 and 1847. Possibly because it was a healthier environment.
I spoke to the Creator about your comment, she said she knew about it, but left it out, purely because she thought it was just outside the boundary of what she considered Parramatta. You are both of of virtually the same opinion, in agreeing that it’s on the edge. Thanks for your comment,we wish there were more like yours. I like to say how pleased we are at the number of views our two videos of Parramatta have. Particularly the second one devoted entirely to the history which is still with you. One can’t help but think that there is a great deal of civic pride in the city’s heritage among those who live, have lived or worked there. May whoever governs the city be made aware of it.
Thanks for prompting us to have a look at Dacyville as a potential video. The Creator has now a much greater grasp of the significance of the area. There are other factors to be taken into account, pictures to name but one, but in the meantime be assured it is under serious consideration. The Parramatta video, is the first of two, and is basically a brief overview and time line. “Discovering Historic Parramatta,” will be far more intensive and informative and will look at the history of, places and artefacts still standing in today’s Parramatta. Expect it a few weeks time. To return to Dacyville, we have noted how small and ageing the population is, this doesn’t in itself mean it can’t be of value or indeed be limited in its viewing. It is the nostalgia factor that in many instances drives our viewing. You have left us wondering whether you are someone who lived, and still lives with a past that has happy memories of Dacyville, if so you are just one of, we suspect a great number of our viewers. Thanks once again for your interest.
I find what is happening, has happened to Parramatta very sad. Growing up there, family business for decades, living in home built in 1938 now demolished for greed I hate the place..
In truth, we suspect Parramatta still retains a good deal more of its heritage than any comparable suburb we have made a video of as yet. That I suspect is because of people not only living in the suburb, but also identifying with it. We are very much aware of the loss of industrial heritage being obliterated by the demand for housing, particularly with water views, hospitals and University colleges taking over substantial areas within suburbs. This appears to result in not only a loss of buildings which housed in particular the working classes, but leaves but a remnant, who will identify with the area, throughout their life time, even though they no longer live there. It has been a particular delight of ours to receive comments from people, who fondly, remember the school they attended, the factories their parents or they worked in, the pub father drank in, the river they swam in or played on its banks. In closing, it is our hope that people might be stimulated into writing of their past not only of their family, but community. The Creator has recently read a novel, whose core revolves around a house in Victoria, now demolished. The book is “The Natural History of Love,” by Caroline Petit. Be inspired do something with your suburb!
And we gave up Parramatta without even a single shot fired to third world invaders. Now thats pathetic let alone sad. Would not have happened if media held corrupt politicians to account and people paid attention to politics a little more. Got what you voted for Aussies.
@@matton36 We may be inclined to agree with you. How our intention has from the beginning to allow people to make up their own minds as to what they see and hear on our videos. You will not find us telling you that: a building is beautiful or ugly, that a site that was a brick pit and is now a recreational park is a better use, whilst mentioning names, we shan’t mention whether they are the good, the bad or the ugly. Should the newspapers of the time have an opinion of any of these things we might share it with you. Our desire is that you should take from our videos what you want, and not have our opinion forced upon you. Our initial reason for creating the channel was for it to be the basis of a flowering of creativity within Suburban Sydney, in short or long story, plays one act etc, short films, all in some way grounded in the information we have presented.
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I think a lot of people do not realise that Parramatta has significant early historical significance of European colonisation of Australia. I've grown up in the Parramatta area since the early 1990s and even now the change within the town centre is huge. It is good to see that Parramatta municipality is taking its history more seriously in trying to preserve (although Willowbank move is controversial). St Patrick's Cemetary for instance in the 1990s was not fenced and left to be in disrepair with headstones vandalised and kicked over.
Just a little thing. The North Parramatta Bunnings site no longer exists. They moved to Redbank Avenue. They picture in the video is of the new site. The building foundation is there but Bunnings moved a while ago.
I knew some of the history but your video is very good, well done. Thanks for making it!
Truly impressed with what you have to say, and just hope that you will be an inspiration for others to make equally valid comments. Keep watching coming shortly, “ Discovering Historic Parramatta,” which is based on, the link between what is still standing and Parramatta’s past. This is simply a call to anyone who knows a friendly Facebook Site, that might have viewers that are interested in what we are producing, particularly the above. Thanks once again
My family owned homes with moats, cellars where convicts were chained and shackled.. these have all been demolished. The way our NSW government has disrespected Parramatta makes me very angry
@@Jenb0854 The govt is not your friend no matter the persuasion. Just take a look out your window and ask yourself do you identify with those people inhabiting our heritage sites.
@@matton36 no I do not our entire country is being destroyed
@@Jenb0854 Its been destroyed for a long time. This started way back when they got rid of the white Australia policy which was i no way racist, it was just a policy that recognized the strength of a homogenized society. This is exactly why they say diversity is a strength, because its not.
Great video guys. I love Parramatta. It has the same sort of textures and architectural “vocabulary” of Sydney that it sometimes feels like a specially constructed Australiana pioneer village. Parramatta Park is like Centennial Park, with the added bonus of having its own river.
Another glorious few words Mr. Batfinder, which just about sum up, what a revelation discovering Parramatta has been for our creator. As the man with the steak knives said, “there’s more to come.”
Overwhelmed with information, but more than anything what is still standing that is a living time capsule in Parramatta. Give us a few more weeks and the more substantial and longer video “Discovering Historic Parramatta,” will be revealed. If I understand the Creator, it will be a tour of your “ specially constructed Australiana pioneer village.” The only difference however is that Phillip, aboriginal people, convicts, indeed humanity, down through the ages, have gazed upon the same landscape and what mankind has placed upon it , as we are privileged to do today. Surely we can do this without being distracted by fireworks or light shows? Good to hear from you again.
Great video
We know it is ten months since you made the comment, but we would just like to say how pleased we are at the numbers of viewers out two videos on Parramatta have received, particularly the one which is focused on history, as history in itself with other videos has been less than successful.
A very enjoyable and interesting video. Parramatta has changed so much over the years. I truly hope that the government retains a lot of the history that remains there.
Thanks for your encouraging comment. We share your hope that whichever government is in power, they will recognise the value heritage building have both culturally and something which binds us together as community as we delight in reflecting on our past. Having, as I’m sure you know, produced two videos largely based on the history of Parramatta, I feel I should say how pleased we are with the number of views they have had, be you residents, former residents, workers in the city of Parramatta or someone who shops, or visits, we thank you for your interest, and hope it makes your time in Parramatta more rewarding emotionally. Given your name, I think I should tell you that the creator is the woman’s voice on the videos. One of our hopes, not that we have been aware of so far, is that people in Suburban Sydney, might become more creative, regarding the use of history. By that we mean creating short or long stories, plays, poetry verse, and film. Thanks once again.
We are more than pleasantly surprised with the number of views this video has generated in just a few days. What we are interested in is why it should be so? I personally have very fond memories of taking my lunch, some twenty five years or so, in a park, where I could look upon the Lennox Bridge. In that I worked there, but didn’t reside in the area, is why I can still picture the pleasure in my head.
On the 12th of June 1872, the Rev. Stanley Howard, after only three days in the colony wrote in his letter to his family in England: “we started off to the 11o’clock steam boat to go up the river, Parramatta, to a town of that name some ten miles away. There were numerous bays and inlets with islands occasionally, all covered with trees and underwood. Many beautiful houses peeped out from these lovely spots, in the gardens of which were orange trees and bananas……we chose the Woolpack Hotel for lunch, as we thought it the most likely to have a garden with oranges….we went out into the garden, where to our delight there was an orange tree covered with fruit, just like a well filled apple tree at home……I shall never forget picking my first from the tree.”
A recommendation for those who return to a specific video searching for a particular point of interest. Use “precise seeking” use your finger, stylus or cursor to drag the red line at the bottom left of your screen to the right. You should then see small but very clear pictures of what is being played on the RUclips video. After finding the picture you want, play it, or use “pinch and zoom” on a touch screen to enlarge the image for more detail. This you do by spreading or contracting the distance between your thumb and index finger whilst touching the image on the screen.
Thanks for the history guys really interesting! Would love to see a old Toongabbie/ Toongabbie episode since it was the 3rd settlement Afterall but in saying that there's not much left anymore
The Creator after a brief search, seems to agree with your assessment, but we are obviously still open to being convinced otherwise. It looks like a vast area, with Old Toongabbie in one corner and today’s Toongabbie in another. It is not that Toongabbie is alone in having very little history left, there are large areas across the North Shore which have swiftly gone from being orchards to modern suburbia.Toongabbie had of course its orchards. We aren’t chasing numbers of views with our choice of suburbs on RUclips. I would hope people would be linking Haberfield, Daceyville and Carrs Park, not greatly populated but each have an element of idealism in their creation. Something that some may see as missing from this present age.Our viewers constantly surprise us with what they choose to watch or not watch. At present whilst hoping that certain videos we have an affection for might have more views, we are delighted with our growth in hours watched and subscribers. Keep watching, as I am sure you will. Thanks for the comment.
@@stpeterscooksriver1873 yeah I can totally understand that and I'll watch no matter what you put up, I only just found this channel and I really like it , thank you for doing such good research.
@@stpeterscooksriver1873 also is there a way to join the history group? I'm only 30 but love learning history especially in Australia but I just don't know where to find alot of old information maybe you can point me in the right direction. Thank you
@@GLOBAL-STRUGGLE Thanks for your interest. The Creator spent this morning searching for pictures of Toongabbie. There are truly a vast number of pictures,(not just photographs) and of course there is a very early and full report on Toongabbie and the Vinegar Hill rebellion. You are so right in suggesting that nothing of the past remains, for when we started to look at modern Toongabbie all we seemed to get was real estate adverts. Could you have another look and tell us this is not so? We have recently been made aware by RUclips Analytics that the most popular sections of our video take in the period 1900-1975. We suspect this takes in the period from grandfather to grandchild. According to Analytics our viewers are 80% male, and substantially all over forty five. So you are indeed young. We have videos on specific items, houses, industry, James Cook, churches, graveyard, churches, which have few viewers, and the reason may well be that they are set in the period 1830- 1900. As for joining our group, we are but two people working together who tried when we first got the idea to have others from History Societies to join us but all were too busy. We are not adverse to joining with others for specific tasks. Our “Voice in the Graveyard,” featuring in an audio video theatrical form how some people met their deaths and are buried in St. Peters Cooks River is one of such instance. To listen to visit our website. The other problem is that we are close to being monetised by RUclips, which to us the money side is of no great value at all. However there are both challenges and opportunities which we some time will have to confront. One big one is getting closer to our audience and allowing them to feel more of a community. Meanwhile, now that we see you are a person who seems to be on the ‘same page,’ and can see the challenges and the limitations we have as to where we are geographically in relation to the vast area that is suburban Sydney, can we ask you keep you eye open across your area, for suitable suburbs. It is such as you who encourage us.
A question for our viewers. Why have our most popular RUclips videos been on, Kingsgrove, Glebe, Parramatta’s an historical time line and discovering history, Manly, Ryde and Concord.
We would like to hear your views, particularly if you are a resident, employed in the area, or were either of these in the past. Glebe and Parramatta have we suspect a great sense of identity. Having worked in Parramatta, a lunchtime stroll down to the Lennox bridge and to sit beside the river was one of life’s pleasures, but why we ask are you watching?
We would like to thank all our viewers of “Parramatta - an historic timeline,” it has made a remarkable start regarding the number of views. We would like to commend our companion video, “Discovering Historic Parramatta,” which we have just uploaded. We are hoping that not only the people of Parramatta, might enjoy it, but also, those who work in the area, who might have a little leisure or lunch time to enjoy a stroll around the area. The areas include, Parramatta and Prince Alfred Parks, George St., Church St., O’Connell St., and Marsden St. Accompanying maps of each area, with the position of each building or object pinpointed, will we hope add something to your awareness of this remarkable city. May we suggest to our few American viewers, that they should make an effort to see beyond Sydney Harbour and that one of their destinies should be Parramatta.
Parramatta was the capital of NSW for a while in the early 19th century. If things had gone a little differently, Australia’s biggest city and metro area, probably still having over 5 million people in this timeline, would have been called “Parramatta”. By now it would have long sprawled from the foot of the Blue Mountains to the coast, absorbing the lively and disreputable sea port of “Sydney” and the distant seaside resorts of Manly and Bondi.
Parramatta was considered by Captain Arthur Phillip as a possible site for the Colony capital, but it never happened. Government House, Parramatta was the country residence for ten Governors between 1800 and 1847. Possibly because it was a healthier environment.
On the edge of Parramatta is Westmead boys home , an important part of history .
I spoke to the Creator about your comment, she said she knew about it, but left it out, purely because she thought it was just outside the boundary of what she considered Parramatta. You are both of of virtually the same opinion, in agreeing that it’s on the edge. Thanks for your comment,we wish there were more like yours. I like to say how pleased we are at the number of views our two videos of Parramatta have. Particularly the second one devoted entirely to the history which is still with you. One can’t help but think that there is a great deal of civic pride in the city’s heritage among those who live, have lived or worked there. May whoever governs the city be made aware of it.
Can U please do dacyville
Thanks for prompting us to have a look at Dacyville as a potential video. The Creator has now a much greater grasp of the significance of the area. There are other factors to be taken into account, pictures to name but one, but in the meantime be assured it is under serious consideration. The Parramatta video, is the first of two, and is basically a brief overview and time line. “Discovering Historic Parramatta,” will be far more intensive and informative and will look at the history of, places and artefacts still standing in today’s Parramatta. Expect it a few weeks time. To return to Dacyville, we have noted how small and ageing the population is, this doesn’t in itself mean it can’t be of value or indeed be limited in its viewing. It is the nostalgia factor that in many instances drives our viewing. You have left us wondering whether you are someone who lived, and still lives with a past that has happy memories of Dacyville, if so you are just one of, we suspect a great number of our viewers. Thanks once again for your interest.
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner, but Daceyville is now up and running. The creator found it a fascinating area to research.
I find what is happening, has happened to Parramatta very sad.
Growing up there, family business for decades, living in home built in 1938 now demolished for greed I hate the place..
In truth, we suspect Parramatta still retains a good deal more of its heritage than any comparable suburb we have made a video of as yet. That I suspect is because of people not only living in the suburb, but also identifying with it. We are very much aware of the loss of industrial heritage being obliterated by the demand for housing, particularly with water views, hospitals and University colleges taking over substantial areas within suburbs. This appears to result in not only a loss of buildings which housed in particular the working classes, but leaves but a remnant, who will identify with the area, throughout their life time, even though they no longer live there. It has been a particular delight of ours to receive comments from people, who fondly, remember the school they attended, the factories their parents or they worked in, the pub father drank in, the river they swam in or played on its banks. In closing, it is our hope that people might be stimulated into writing of their past not only of their family, but community. The Creator has recently read a novel, whose core revolves around a house in Victoria, now demolished. The book is “The Natural History of Love,” by Caroline Petit. Be inspired do something with your suburb!
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And we gave up Parramatta without even a single shot fired to third world invaders. Now thats pathetic let alone sad. Would not have happened if media held corrupt politicians to account and people paid attention to politics a little more. Got what you voted for Aussies.
@@matton36 We may be inclined to agree with you. How our intention has from the beginning to allow people to make up their own minds as to what they see and hear on our videos. You will not find us telling you that: a building is beautiful or ugly, that a site that was a brick pit and is now a recreational park is a better use, whilst mentioning names, we shan’t mention whether they are the good, the bad or the ugly. Should the newspapers of the time have an opinion of any of these things we might share it with you. Our desire is that you should take from our videos what you want, and not have our opinion forced upon you. Our initial reason for creating the channel was for it to be the basis of a flowering of creativity within Suburban Sydney, in short or long story, plays one act etc, short films, all in some way grounded in the information we have presented.