Horten Twin 80mm EDF German secret weapon WW2 Fighter
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Hallo RC Fans . Our Club mate Peter finished his full composite HORTON
Twin EDF80mm. Powered by 2x80mm fans running on 6s each side. The design is an experimental from the year 1943 by the Germans in WW2.
Especially the model suffers from the fact that the rudder underneath the fuselage is very small which can give you a real hard time to fly this rare RC plane. Enjoy and please watch until the end since we filmed 2 flights.Let us know what you think , comment like and subscribe.
Sorry for the blurry footage taken from a mobile phone, you still get an idea how he was fighting to not loose it.
Ein von Peter hervorragendes seltenes Modell zur Voillendung gebracht. Es zu fliegen ist nicht nur Herausfordernd sondern wirklich nicht einfach süeziell weil das Seitenruder unter dem Rumpf sehr klein ist. Schaut auch das ganze Video an wir haben 2 Flüge gefilmt. Repekt an Peter hast du super gemeistert.
Sorry das Video ist leider immer etwas verschwommen weil der Autofokus am Mobiltelefon nicht so richtig wollte. Viel Spass , abonniert und Daumen hoch würde uns freuen.
Love this design!
Flying wings are tricky to adjust though!
Hey thanks , yes they look amazing in the air.
My friend did sone changes and we will do it again. There are different sizes from aerotetris foam construction I might get one 🙄😁
Wow the HO-229, my favorite plane, I really wish we could buy this plane in PnP. I'm looking forward to the next flight. Greetings from Belgium!
Yes we wish we could get it PNP too. I was not really interested until i saw how many really fly perfect and sucessful. There is hope aerotetris makes one in foam. Im really tempted to build one since the price is affordable and exiting to see it it flies well. Cant wait to see my friend fly his Horton again. Keep you informed.
Very Nice! A guy named Keith Shaw who really promoted electric flight in the 80's built a Horton Twin EDF with two Astroflight .035 Cobalt motors. He did a bungee launch but once it was up the performance was pretty amazing considering it was powered with brushed motors and nicad batteries. Keith also built a number of other scale electric models including a GeeBee R1 and I think a DeHavalind Mosquito. Glad to see your plane, it looks very well engineered.
Thanks for the information .- Unbelievable how many people are interested in this aircraft_ I will have another video up soon. Another friend figured some problems out and it flies perfect like Keith´s Hoten
What a wild ride,,, now I want to fly a full size electric 229 commuters plane
The concept design has, after about 90 yrs, returned (figuratively speaking) to where it originated, as a proof of concept model. It seems the German public schools were providing career-focusing "clubs" as extensions of regular curriculum. My Dad was president of his high school's radio club for the 3 of his 4 yrs. in that club. -Afterward he pursued electrical tech. and a related professional career. So I think such "clubs" are worth it. Recalling what I read about the Hortons and their school's model aircraft club, the adult mentor-director of the club related to the young club members, the greatest problem or challenges to aviation at the time, was in reducing control surfaces to absolute minimum for fuel and possible other maximum efficiencies. I think their idea won acclaim and recognition, such that a "pilotable" glider was built to test controllability and handling. The test pilots gave it low scores in that regard, with some noting that, at least as a glider, it was quite difficult! Thus the German aircraft industry lost interest in moving forward with producing full scale powered Hortons, until Germany reached the desperate circumstances of WW2 where everything had to be optimized, minimized etc.. I don't think the Hortons "copied" the idea. It's just a matter of a wing being about as far as one can go in minimizing, in order to maximize.
Thanks Carl for the explanation and detailed information. Im still suprised that so many people are interested in this unique aircraft
Horten!!
Come on, dude!!🤦♂🤦♂
It was designed to carry a nuclear payload over a set required flight range, it never actually accomplished its mission, however saying a proof of concept is a understatement
Did anyone notice that this aircraft was almost if not completely invisible at times during flight? This would have been a nightmare for Allied Forces if the plane got into major production. Talk about stealth! The thing just vanishes from sight!
Youre absolut right. But there was also one issue and that was that the turbines at that time were more then not realiable.But from the development perspective way ahead.
Wonderful model of an fantastic aircraft!
yes exactly thanks for your comment
The HO-229 was the fighter version, the bomber version had 6 jet motors and could carry a payload of around 4000 kg of bombs with a range of about 5000 km. If these planes had come earlier in the war it would have been disasterous for the Allies and Russians.
Fact, the engines had maybe a ten hour life. This would of been disastrous for a long range bomber.
@@danapicray9040 youre right they were way to early with this concept. But still a cool aircraft
@@danapicray9040 more like 25 hours
@@danapicray9040 That was only because Germany lost control of the chromium mines in turkey which resulted in the inability to create better more heat resistant alloys that would have massively increased the durability of the engines.
We should be glad the Germans did not have a couple of hundred of these things in 1943. FWIW - the plane was made of plywood over a steel center frame. Also the 30mm cannon could have fired anti tank shells.
Beautiful plane and well flown
Thx we have 2 guys who built one. Will upload another videos this days. Flies beautiful without any bad habbits after some CG adjustments
Hammer Modell !!!! beim 2ten start ist mir die Pumpe gegangen!!!😨😨
tja war richtig spannend.Nach Schwerpunkt Anpassung fliegt das richtig brav 😍
oja !!Schwanzlastige Horten sind nervig!!😁
Sehr interessant, Danke.
During the time this craft was pattem designed, it was far ahead of its time, even surpassing the early 21st century, today it could be modified to dive in water, be a bomber, a fair size cargo & passanger ratio size airline, even a rocket carrier first stage, surpassing the issue, canister chem rockets face below the kamen.
Seems to still attract people to ask more abou tthis unique aircraft
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Excellent flying skills
Yes Peter is flying models along time. In the meantime we figured the CG and there is no hazzle with it anymore... thanks for watching
Incredible design for its time much like the Bugatti 100p, great recreation, fuselage seems to short for stable flight, perhaps it requires some updates
Hey thanks for your comment. Well its not easy to get it fly right as a model. There was quite a bit of testing with thrust angle and Center of Gravity. I also posted a second video of the designer (the white version, so no paint) Ot flies super stable. Thanks for watching the quality was not really the best. Greets Rico
@@TestFliteTV I appreciate the fact that you took time, money and effort to give it a go, It just seemed a shame to have such a result but I'm glad to hear you have had more success.
Super.
thx alot a new Video is coming up soon
Interesting
Totally cool model. Pure wings at model scale suffer more from Reynolds Analogy then conventional aircraft.
Well yes but the aerodynamik was way ahead of the time. The 2nd model which was built flies extremly well i will upload the video.
Very cool model! 💥🔥
Thx you all members on our field were really exited to see it fly
@@jetfan0815 😊👍
Hello Rico & Peter. I think if Carlsberg® were making a Flying Wing, you two guys would be on their short list for test pilots! @04:42 my body started to go in the foetal position but you grabbed it back like a Champ!
Seriously, do you think a larger scale, say 2x, 3x bigger would be easier to control?
Having said that, I heard that the F-117 couldn't fly without it's Fly by Wire computer..
But was amazed when I saw a scale model being flown without that luxury!
Respect!
Hey well bigger flies always better. In the meantime the guys really solved all the bad behavior flies like on rails. Will post a new video soon
@@TestFliteTVseams the CG is a bit off. It could be that the thrust line of the fans is not at the correct angle with the airfoil of the wing. If this is scratch built build one 1X bigger wich would make it fly better & wouldn't be so touchy ( squrly) to fly.
I would say that it is quite unstable, the geometry of the model will probably not be suitable for stability.
It was all about the CG it is solved and flies great ypu cab see ut on the second video the white model
Great job, new sub from northern Indiana.
Thx alot you got a sub too
@@TestFliteTV Thank you, I haven't made a video in years, lol and probably won't.
Talk about a plane that needs a gyro, this one definitely!
well I would say yes but that would make it alot easier.Check the 2nd video the white prototype flies eörellay nice
Not sure if this Horten 299 had the correct washout at the wing tips. This would increase stability a lot. The Horten's understood flyinh wing design better than anyone at the time. NASA has recently rediscovered the concept of (PRANDTL wing concept) proverse yaw. Those who have reproduced the Horten often overlook the changing angle of attack from root to wing tip.
I agree, he needs to re work dihedral and wash out from root to tip cord
As the "Stealth Fighter" of its day, it would have terrified the British radar operators, if the Germans had fielded such a craft, a little earlier. By the time they could have detected it, with the RADAR equipment of the day, the planes would have been in strike range, clearing the way, for more conventional prop planes, of the day.
I see this development way ahead of that times. Still the engines gave alot of problems , which didnt male them very reliable
Pretty wooden bird 😽
quite a challenge to fly but after some adjustments the whute one flew very good on the other Video 😁
@@TestFliteTV Oh, Enrico that sound!
I generally like plane.
Especially special planes.
I shall watch them.
Me I am just making a little hot air balloon in tissue paper.
It takes a lot of time but it’s fun.
Thomas from Belgium
Hello there , how much is the kit and air frame please?
Thanks
From Andrew
Hey there its full composite and I can supply pics if you want. Pls mail to testflitetv@gmail.com so Ocan send ypu details thx
Is the HORTON a hand built model or a full kit that you bought.
Its a full.molded versiön and one kit is available for sale
The original Horton 18 had 6 engines.
wow really didnt know that.Any link available for that ?
Can you share who is producing the kit?
Hey a friend of us and there is one kit available.Its around 1100$ plus shipoing.Let me know if youre interested.To.make things clear this is a very complex kit and not for beginmers 😁
How I Get One Like Yours?
Hey write to me on testflitetv@gmail.com greets Rico
nice but not sell on amazon damn i really one to pick up one
well i guess there wont ne many sold after this video... haha
Hi, is it possible to share the drawing? 😊
Hey sorry I dont think so.I just know it was built from a wood kit and after that a mold was done.I can ask for the wood kit info if you want.I also have a composite kit available to sell.
@@TestFliteTV ok, pls let me know more
Interessante Flügelsteuerung, hab ich so nie gesehen.
Sie flog extrem unruhig, vielleicht sind 50% weniger Ausschlag und 65% Expo besser ???
So wie bei mir eingestellt,
ruclips.net/video/FkpskHuqJYE/видео.html
Fliegergruß 🤩
Hallo danke für deinen Input wor haben inzwischen vieles oprimiert ubd fliegt jetzt wie am 2.Video allerdings in weiss also anderes Modell.Danke dir für dein Video
stealth fighter-bomber..2 turbojet Junkers Jumo 004 B ... Cannons 2 MK 108 caliber 30 mm ... Max speed 1 000 km / h at 6 100 m ... in the queue swastika sign...
Not stealth
In reality Stealth Bomber /B 2 is some clone of Horten.
Thats how L see it also.Its so amazing to see how early they cane up with that conceot oth the flying wing.
@@TestFliteTV Germany was way ahead of its time when it comes with Aircraft Technology / Engineering and Rocket Science. Very fascinating.
Is this a kit or scratch built?
Hey a ful composite kit but still some work. Sometimes they make 3 to 5 of them in groups. the kit is around 1k. greet Rico
@@TestFliteTV Could this be made in into a jet powered kit maybe?
@@flfun1684 Yes im sure you could do that. You might choose the Xicoy miniature turbines since the diameter is limited . You also need to make sure to have the right tailpipes to get the heat safly out of the fuse.
I think it's spelled "Horten"
Yes thanks will change that
Horton's design is also quite interesting, but very different from that one.
In flight video was really bad. Hope you don't do this for a living.
you ar plinnc ditel me
Fighter, not bomber.
Thx will change it
camera work is awful!
youre absolut right.I like your channel by the way 😁😁
Fix your audio levels. :/
Horten*
or Gotha
"Horton"...
🤦♂🤦♂🤣🤣