Yes, nature doesn't need us, quite the opposite. Apart from desertification we really should leave it to it's own devices (unless we are fixing our own fukup's of course).
That sounds good on paper, but North America has a poaching epidemic. In this case, I mean tree poaching of course. Lands allowed to go through their natural growing phases are often targeted by greedy individuals looking to make a profit. So even if you bought a national park sized plot of land to invest into sustainable harvesting, you would need to constantly keep vigil over your land for various intruders and have the authorities watch over your investment. You also need to make profit from your land in order to have the finances to maintain it, as well as to pay your taxes. So companies buy massive chunks of land, clear cut it, sell what they can while waiting for their "crops" to mature, then reap their rewards and repeat.
@@jonathangauthier3549 So you need to solve your socio-economic problems. Saying "we can't do A because B, so we do nothing" isn't very smart, isn't it?
Why in the hell are we still using trees for paper when hemp is so much less intrusive. Oh, I forgot the timber industry is too invested and lobbied to even acknowledge hemp and it's potential.
@@marcelma Spruce goes in one place and hemp in another. I'd say that they are both low maintenance but don't have any real specific data. Hemp is sustainable with way less inputs overall it is a weed by nature remember.
The wood pulp industry is worth billions, and is the monopoly of billionaires. We can't have that money every year going to struggling family farmers! BTW, hemp produces a much higher quality paper than tree pulp.
My dad owned a timber company for many years. He had 3 big rules he drilled in my head, 1. never clear cut 2. never reseed 3. never disturb the land more than absolutely necessary. He told me that replanting was just asking for disease and that the trees left by not clear cutting would do the reseeding for us. Looks like he was right.
That works for places that have remaining trees. Volcanic Islands on the Pacific were originally seeded by birds bringing seeds from other places as there were no initial trees there because the islands formed from underwater volcanoes that accumulated lava over time. The bird would eat some seeds in one area, and defecate on the new island as they lay eggs. The output providing fertilizer for the seed. A cooling volcanic island that was a little bit warmer may have encouraged birds to lay their eggs there because they wouldn't have needed to cover the eggs so much. In a desert environment where whatever wood to be found was harvested long ago, the only option would be to introduce species from similar environments that could survive a dry environment like this.
Definitely going to disagree. And I actually know people who do that technique cuz they have their own private land. They just selectively cut when the prices are high. But I grew up in an area with Douglas firs. And Douglas firs love the sunlight. I mean once they hit their teenage faze they start growing two growth spurts a year on a good year. We're talking two or three feet per year. You just don't get that type of growth when you have a tree in the middle of a selectively cut or thinned forest. Not for nothing though if you have some champion level trees. A thin Forest is a good way to get some really good trees in the future. And selective cutting is the best way for a long-term live off the land forestry. But I guess it all depends on where you're living at. / Side note / they were places that I used to gather firewood at when I was a kid. That you can't even tell there's a road there now because of the way the growth has happened. Mountain Top views where once upon a time they did Tower logging and you could see all the way to Canada add up to the Olympics and the 101 towards Lake crescent. And now the view is completely submerged in trees. Time sure Fly's by.
@@skeletorrocks2452 the Japanese use the Bonzai technique to harvest timber from the tree without killing it. This technique has been introduced in some African countries.
@HepCatJack it seems feasible. Just pruning and using would especially if you're using say a rocket stove or something similar.. But I'd have to see more information on it to really believe it.
In the part of western Oregon where I live private companies are replanting with three to five species, following the recommendations of the Oregon State University School of Forestry. They're even doing the smaller clearcuts that are recommended. They're depending on improvements in technology for eventually cutting trees because the different species need to be harvested at different intervals. There is also at least one company that has committed to cutting at no intervals less than 80 years, and not clearcutting at all any longer.
Read a study...I think decades old...that mentioned Washington/Oregon where Orgeon has some large hemlock forests and favors them in many areas...but still have many douglas firs...where as Washington has a lot of hemlock but more favors large forests of douglas fir. So nature does do "monoculture" LOL xD...in a limited way of course. And of course the gypsy moth don't care if its douglas or hemlock :>)
@@Kevin-x4p4y there are always some trees that grow better than others. But in a natural forest you have different sizes of trees. So a fire may consume some of the lower trees while the bigger ones survive. There will even be more fires which clear much of the wood stockpile aka the fire can’t find so much fuel. What is happening now is what always happens to monocultures, natural or human made, they get destroyed. Why do bananas or oranges are in trouble now? Because they are lacking diversity. In a Natural environment a beetle will destroy a tree or two or ten but afterwards some birds etc. will go after these beetles. But they need different trees to nest on so you will not find them in monocultures. They constantly need food aka sick trees with the beetles that cause the illness, something you don’t want in monocultures. There you want to take out sick trees as soon as you spot them to safe the rest. Without sick trees there are no birds living on the beetles and so there is plenty of food for the beetles but no enemies. Monocultures just take a very small part of an ecosystem but they miss the part that is reducing the productivity of a natural system but is essential to keep it healthy.
I have worked in silviculture in western Canada and can tell you that this video is full of false statements. I have planted hundreds of thousands of trees in my lifetime. We always replant multiple species, sometimes up to five different species, to replicate the original forest cover. Not only are we trying to replicate the original distribution of species but saplings are created from seeds from the same forests that were logged. When replanting the seedlots have to match the cut blocks that they were grown for. The creator of this video has no clue of how cut blocks are replanted here; my guess is that he got his information from some woke and uninformed environmentalist.
@@philhey8847he's talking about the corporations that grow yellow pine after raping old growth trees then cut the yellow pine (junk tree) every 7 years
Seems people are not aware that trees EAT carbon dioxide and give us oxygen in return ESPECIALLY broadleaf trees. Thats why forests smell so good, the air is RICH with oxygen. Carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant as some claim, its PLANT FOOD so just plant more trees especially deciduous broad leaf that also make MUCH better furniture as they are all hardwoods.
The solution --> 1. Mix 50 different tree nuts and seeds into a crop duster. 2. Spray the landscape. 3. Let the trees compete in a free market, without government. 4. Thank me later.
Well just because something is better at competing in early stages dosent mean it will survive as long in that environment or be suitable to form an ecosystem
This report is simplistic. All trained foresters know about problems with monoculture tree planting, and a good effort is made to make forests as natural as possible. Some of the best managed forests are privately held by families who have expertly managed their forests for generations. Yes, Germany had a problem with monoculture, which resulted from ignorance in action, which is the usual culprit in a lot of human disasters.
@@gbrown9273 the OP is proud that his country let rich people have private forests that are maintained by paid foresters, the companies that are using trees are off to eastern Europe trafficking wood. In short "look how nice the forests are, don't mind the bloody logs on the truck he had to argue that eastern Europe has the right to have forests too , those uncivilized people wouldn't know how appreciate their forest anyways". TLDR: he's bragging how they didn't do shit about the corporations deforesting Europe, they just swept it under the rug and yapping about tradition(a thing that corporation don't give a single f about and they bribe people to not follow them)
From Canada. See evidence of mono culture planting everywhere. Making a point to the masses requires some simplicity else people abandon the problem to the "experts" who caused the problem in the first place.
@@ebradley2306 I have seen so "called experts" that just because they have a "degree" ( wonder where they got it) telling everyone what to do, they do not have PRACTICAL experience....they just read it in a book somewhere...which may or may not be correct...
My uncle owns only a 100 acres. It's mostly all pine. Every blue moon he will sell about 5 acres and let's it start growing again. And it'll be years before he'll sell another 5 acres. By then the last 5 acres are already growing back lush, thick and healthy. I love it there. It's so peaceful and the air and fragrance is so relaxing. It's been in his family for many generations
Paradoxically, America’s dying forests offer an opportunity for ecosystem regeneration. The dead trees provide nutrients to the soil, allowing new growth. This shows that nature has a powerful ability to heal and regenerate itself.
The decomposong dead tries are now a major source of GHGs, making a much smaller contribution in soil nutrients value than would have occurred had the trees been harvested live with a certain amount of residual left on the land. Everyone knows we should have started harvesting those trees as soon as we were aware of the pest infestation, to limit its spread, harvest the trees when they might have had some market value, and reduce the volume of dead trees that just become fuel for fires. Now that it is too late, we should be harvesting the dead fibre, and pyrolyzing the recovered waste to add some value (tho' less than we would have otherwise realized). But we have to make sure that the companies don't just show up eith heavy equipment and strip the dieing stands clear, which would lead to soil erosion, moisture loss and weed infestations that could block natural and managed tree and shrubs regeneration. The dead tree clearing has to be a well-planned and managed process. And maybe good work for now-out-of-work loggers who know what they are doing.
We live on property that was in a forest fire in 1996. What burned was mostly old growth spruce with many dead from the spruce bark beatle. Now we have birch about 20’ tall and quaking aspen 30’ tall. Also there is a lot of undergrowth that moose browse on.
Why when English settler's came to america were the forest's full of trees that were hundreds of feet tall? Old logging photos show entire towns worth of people standing on one stump of a freshly cut tree. (We're talking thirty to forty people standing on one stump with room left over). It's a paradox that's been solved. Do you have any idea how many times in human history the entire planet had been reforested?
natural wildfires extinguish themselves, or animals stomp it out etc, warthogs, elephants, buffalo, bears... all manage forrests and prevent widespread intense fires. but we killed them all... we dont maintain forrests, or resevours... so they burn vast areas and no one teaches us how to do the jobs the animals we killed off did... our own stupidity, on top of dew and greed is now coming full circle...
Is it "nature" that causes wild fires to burn in straight lines? Or burn a half of a house while the other half is untouched? Does lightning look like ⚡or like ☄️(lasers come in straight lines down)? California and Hawaii are two examples of suspicious wild fires followed by lots of rain and mudslides as if to contaminate evidence (just saying, not blaming one or many).
I was a sawmiller by profession for 10 years on the edge of the Australian outback. The particular tree I harvested the cypress pine was used in wooden house frames because it was termite resistant. It was amazing to see the number of saplings that grew from where trees were felled. If these trees were not felled fierce wild fires were the result..
Another Aussie here. Having lived through the 2020 bushfires, I would say that pines and natives are the worst trees for our country to plant. Our natives have evolved to burn and will, ferociously. Pines are not native and are a menace, burning like fireworks, exploding and spreading fire faster than can be contained. Our nation's capital, Canberra, learnt that the hard way. Although many Australian idealists would disagree, we would be better off planting northern hemisphere trees. Deciduous, broadleaved trees do not burn as easily, go dormant in droughts, grow well in our climate and provide the oxygen we need. There will always be enough stands of natives for our koalas to live, if the government listens and the acres and acres of monoculture pines can be a thing of the past. Just a thought from an old gardener.
I have a plan for this. I'm struggling to break it down into a short message though but I'll try: 1. Small (10 acres) farming homesteads as a business model. 2. Bamboo, hemp, jute and food forestry for said farms. 3. Building of swales for natural water flow on said farms with hugelkultur berms in some areas. 4. Atmospheric water generators running off solar energy (passive solar, not solar panels) and water storage within earth ship style homes/structures. 5. Main exports of these small farms are: Bamboo laminate flooring, cutting boards and lumber products (light duty), activated charcoal and BBQ pellets/briquettes; among other possibilities like toilet paper and napkins. Hemp linens, paper products and hempcrete mix; among multiple possibilities. Honey from apiaries specializing in meadow flowers (for sites that focus on meadows instead of forests). Mycelium cultures and gourmet mushroom products (for soil specialists focusing on farmland restoration). Saplings for arborist nurseries. Special focus is on ambient humidity studies that should go on year round for chosen sites prior to selection, as awg plays a larger role in the idea than groundwater and rainfall. The point is to actively collect what is already in the air as a potable water source and to store enough reserves to support a family there for a year before then utilizing excess production to support the land. There's more to this but this is already a long comment. I have a similar concept for correction of ocean acidification too.
Great job. Ive developed the same perspective. Ive designed an entire local community co-op for food supply and production. I hope society starts perceiving this way.
There is a plus and a minus to everything. Becareful what you wish for because you may find yourself under 100% percent government control if the Democrats somehow win this presidential election. It's not fear mongering it's a fact.
I heard a guy talk about making bread in a movie, Homegrown. Billy Bob Thornton. I don't know if you smoke but we have got to be the smartest most enlightened people with an education called "Refer Madness". After so long, these drunk's are going to be our slaves.❤😂🎉 We serve nature and nature is very rewarding to "IT'S" investors of truth and life. 🧬
Seriously thank you. Too many people look at our forests and think that they are healthy. They come down on people like me. Thank you for educating them. This is the best video that I have seen in years. Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
I've seen same thing happened in Germany. Trees that thrived at certain altitudes were planted en masse at the wrong altitude. Now the dead trees are being replaced with a more natural mixture of fast and slow growing trees. It costs more to go in and harvest the ones that matured first, but then the remaining trees grow like crazy and will be ready for harvest in the years to come.
Those pine forests they plant as a mono-crop, so that’s why one pest can attack the whole field. If they mix them up with different trees like nature would do they wouldn’t lose a whole field at once.
People love the fall colors when the leaves change. They don't understand different tree's leaves turn different colors. Some red, some yellow, some brown. Most think it's pretty but don't understand these are different trees all helping the other trees survive.
O.k. I like your channel and typically really interesting and accurate information. I am a forester and wildlife biologist, so regarding even aged monoculture stands I needed to chime in so that everyone does not think all plantations are ecological deserts. Not time or room to explain in detail but pure even aged stands do sometimes occur naturally and though stands like pine plantations are not typically optimal habitat, they are used , often to a large degree by wildlife. There are other negatives but you also need to understand some of the positives. For instance establishing vegetative cover on marginal sites that may be susceptible to erosion, or sites that do to soil quality will ( with current conditions) support diverse plant life or are fertile enough for agriculture. As foresters we know the world needs forest products and as biologist we want species richness and diversity. Therefore we try to grow high production stands on areas that will provide the most yield using the least acres. This allows us to save more land that can have increased species richness and quantity. Habitat management and resource management is a balancing act and the people working to preserve and improve things have a complicated task but I will tell you, overall if you take take to study and get a good understanding you will that in the US and Canada we do a pretty good job. Thanks and I like your channel.
If you are doing such a good job, then why are the pines trees in my state dying in HUGE numbers to the pine bark beetle? Mixed forests in my area ALL have these dying or dead skeleton trees, and suburban areas are even worse. Your “math” ain’t mathing-try a different spin. 🧐
The problem is more than just fire, we have a tree in the Northwest that, in the 1980's they found is useful for treating cancer but they were losing the source because none were being replanted after harvest.
Look up the carnivore diet to cure cancer - Ken D Berry MD , here on RUclips - eating meat is the natural way to eat - many plants now were hybridized to have too much sugar - we now have an epidemic of food based illness in the USA - such a morbid obesity and childhood cancer
Scientists discovered that the anti-cancer agent in Yew trees came from the bacteria living in the Yew trees. The bacteria has been cultured and is now providing the anti-cancer agent without harming the trees.
I lived in Fort Macmurry for six years and the Black Spruce around there are natural not replanted. Also they only grow in swampy areas so are naturally dominant with few if any other species of trees are there.
It's pretty crazy the temperature differences you can get in the same forest in winter. It gets nice and warm under the deciduous trees that lost their leaves, but stays 8-10 degrees cooler under the evergreens. Even 3 hours after the sun has set, you can feel the difference and see it on a thermal camera.
I was once laughed at because I grab seed pods or nuts from all kinds of plants and literally throw them around my yard, they will either thrive or die, the rest is up to them, granted I stick to species native to my area, but hey, I have a nice diverse forest behind my home now, so the joke is on them.
I purchased a property many years back and after I moved in I stopped mowing half of my grass and just let the forest slowly grow back. I now have easily over 40 oak trees, a dozen pines and some maple trees; sure they are still mostly small- but in another 10 years it's going to really start to look like a forest again in that section. There just was no reason to have such a huge yard, so I sized it to what is needed an nothing more. Many generations back my property was part of an old farm estate that got sub divided. and no one really thought about regrowing forest vs keeping all that grass...and I didn't plant a single seedling :)
The plantations in the US South are teeming with wildlife. 50 years ago we had very little deer in our area. Now we have deer, turkey, rabbits, squirrels, wildcats, birds everywhere. We have plantations but they are full of wildlife, they are not “deserts”. 4:44 10/8/24
This presentation is pretty misleading, The USFS did plant tree, these are not a monoculture, the trees are elevation banded with trees from the same area. Silviculture is a very well researched science.
US Government needs to be planting 2,000,0000 trees a day or more for 10 years or more to combat climate change ...and find predator for the beetles if comes to be an actual problem, but if they are just eating dead trees than no problem ...
I plant trees for a living in British Columbia, Canada. You're exactly right about this. People should be a lot more aware of what's going on. One thing I will say though, is trees don't exactly get planted in perfect rows like the images you put up earlier in the video. It's quite inefficient to do that typically. But that doesn't really matter. What I would be concerned about from the workers side of things is specifications and being able to make money and a fair wage. Tree planting is an incredibly difficult job. You get paid around 16-24 cents a tree depending on the specifications of the contract you're working on. Sometimes this is mono culture, more often than not we're planting 2 species though, pine and spruce are the most common. There are however more "proper" reforestation efforts where we do plant up to 4 different species at once. Typically pine, spruce, fir, and larch. These contract specifications are usually quite difficult, with each tree usually having to be planted with a specific density and ratio, with proper micro sites like high ground, wet ground, good sunlight, or shade specific to each tree, which takes a LOT more time, knowledge, thinking, planning, and speed while planting. Typically with these specifications it can be much harder to make a decent wage. I have been tree planting for a few years now, and I'm able to make sometimes $500-600 a day! That sounds great right? Well, that's not every day. The more specifications you add, the more complicated it gets, and the less trees you are able to plant in a day. And typically the wages don't exactly match the complexity of the contract. I can plant well over 3000 trees in a day, and you can do the math at say 18 cents a tree... The problem is, with say a 22 cent contract, where I'm only able to plant maybe 1000 trees in a day busting my ass. There's a lot of times I haven't been able to make minimum wage with some of the specifications we get. And I'm a good planter. There was a day this year we had a 30 cent contract, but I could only plant 300 trees with the types of specifications I was given. That's about $90 for a whole day. Which not only includes the time allotted to plant the trees, that also includes the long drive to the block we're planting on, and then in this case, the extremely long walk in to where we need to plant. We go to very remote places in the bush, sometimes not accessible by vehicles. And when you have a 5-6km walk in, that can take quite a bit of time from your day. In and out. Then the drive home to be back before dinner. Not to mention there's usually some unpaid work you usually have to do when you get home as well. Making $90 in a day busting your ass for 14 hours is not even legal really, but we let it slide. The industry is also very heavily reliant on newcomers who are just learning all of this. If a veteran planter can't make a decent wage planting, surely the new people will not be able to make minimum wage. I've seen it quite a bit before. It's a wonderful job, but the learning curve for your first year is insane! I'm still learning... And in an industry where workers rights are quite often violated, and taken advantage of, I would be slightly concerned about what a more "proper" reforestation project could mean for workers and our beloved job. At the end of the day it's all a money game. And unfortunately people want to pay as little as possible for something to get done. From my experience the wages won't end up matching the significant increase in difficulty for creating specifications to ensure proper reforestation projects. There are however small companies with low overhead and highly experienced, skilled and talented workers that I could see possible, but doing this at scale would be extremely difficult. Who's going to pay for it? Great video, I really appreciate people who are making an effort to get these messages out there. Just always remember, there's the people who plant the trees, and we need to make sure they're taken care of as well :)
Hi Steve! We have those beetles in our area, it is what killed the only pine tree we had. Thank you for the other information, that I didn't know! You have a great day and take care! Catch you on the next one!
Come on now ! They can make mosquitoes that harm humans but can't for beetle bugs, technology to fly to the moon but not kill beetles, and my name Eddie sausage head !
Ironically, if the forests had been more diverse & had an understood to speak of, enough of a mix of species would be flocking to that area for food that the beetles wouldn't be that big of an issue. Something else would be eating them to keep their populations low enough that this doesn't happen.
12,000 years ago, the last ice age receded in Central Europe. Central and Western Europe slowly greened up and became covered by a dense beech forest over the following centuries. Only in a few places did other ecosystems develop: e.g. in bogs, on the coasts, in alpine areas, etc. And only in a few places were there forest forms other than the beech forest. One of these places was the Hainich, where an oak/ hornbeam forest developed. Many thousands of years followed, and the forest grew and flourished. People from the neighboring communities were allowed to enter the forest to collect firewood, mushrooms or nuts from the ground and in autumn they could drive their pigs into the forest to feed on the acorns. However, it was forbidden to cut down trees. However, he was revered like a saint in neighboring villages. From then on, the forest was part of the commons, a system that was common throughout Europe at the time: The villages were surrounded by pastures, forests and lakes. These did not belong to anyone, they were not private. They were under the control and care of the local community, which met regularly to decide together who could graze how many animals, how many fish could be caught from the lakes and where trees could be felled for building purposes. For many centuries, people thus ensured a sustainable approach to nature. It was not until the transition to capitalism [?] that these areas were fenced off and privatized, forcing the population to work for wages. Centuries passed and people lived in a good relationship with the forest. From the 16th century onwards, bush regulations have been handed down, in which the sustainable management of the forest was recorded in writing. The surrounding communities met on fixed dates and agreed on the use of the wood, so-called Holzgedinge. From the 18th century onwards, the forest was probably divided into parts and distributed among the neighboring communities. This meant that each community was responsible for its own piece of forest. This was a decision that would shape the forest in the long term. When the so-called territorial reforms came about a hundred years later, the municipalities did not know exactly which parts of the forest would belong to them - which may have had a significant impact on the economical use of the forest as a result. Back in the present, the largest contiguous beech forest in Europe is one of the remnants of the huge primeval forests that once covered large parts of Central Europe. In the Hainich National Park, the primeval forest in the middle of Germany, 90 % of the forest is free from human intervention. _This forest “ages” naturally; trees are allowed to collapse, and the dead wood is left lying around - allowing a variety of new life to emerge. The Hainich National Park covers 7500 hectares - an area of forest that has become extremely rare today._ _There has never been an infestation of pests on this scale before. And again; all dead wood remains in the forest - panta rhei, everything flows, becomes and passes away, is all that takes place there. Without human influence, mixed beech forests would cover more than two thirds of Germany's land area._ I live at the foot of the Hainich - this last contiguous mixed beech forest. And when I die, after this fate, this forest will be my second womb. 🙏🌱💝🌱🙏 Yours sincerely, } ζicᾰdἒ_Διphφ { 🦉
Mono cultures are a BIG problem. When spruce or pine beetles invade , there is no diversity to slow the beetles down, and the tree produces incredible amounts of sap trying to "drown" the beetles...When the tree dies, and needles dry out, they are like a "roman candle," and when they burn, they burn with incredible heat. Adding to the problem is that governments "in their wisdom" have been spraying roundup to kill the leaf trees, which are quite fire resistant... Leaf trees actually slow down encroaching fires, making some fires more "containable " ..When everything is super dry, and when a fire goes through it is super hot and super fast...to add to this government "enhanced " problem, the spraying of the leaf trees and brush, removes the food moose eat, leaving them with little or no browse, and the government wonders why their numbers are dropping....
Pretty spot on but part of the problem is drought, where trees cannot produce enough sap to push the beetles out. In California, they are just coming out of a years long drought. Also, another cause is that the political climate has been contrary to good forest management not cutting down dead trees or replanting burnt areas with mixed varieties of natural forests.
@@desertdenizen6428 Here in non drought areas of the world, the bark beetle still killed "zillions" of trees, and the dead trees are full of sap.. and extremely flammable..
@@gbrown9273 Is it one species or are there different ones? I know around here they are referred to as Pine Bark Beetles. In the area I'm most familiar with, the pines are mixed with oak trees and the oaks seem to be unaffected. This area is located in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada. It's a mess anyway.
Your forgetting the most important part, the spores they carry cause mycelium to invade the parts they bore into and with say the oyster mushrooms mycelium is very aggressive to dead parts of trees, quickly spreading through the live tree by following the tunnel of the beetle helping kill the tree faster. Now you have a forest that's producing carbon dioxide instead of oxygen.
You didn't mention that fast grown wood is garbage for building anything because the growth rings, which give the wood its strength, are too far apart. The growth rings in a slow grown natural are tightly packed together, making it immensely strong.
Last summer bark beetles invaded an area where I do conservation work; they took out all but three of trees that had gotten old enough to produce cones and thus do their own seeding. So far this year there's been no sign of them, thankfully, and the dead standing trees aren't dense enough on the ground to be a real problem.
10:37 first not all of Germany wooden areas looked like this. Even though Germany is much smaller than US we have a fairly diverse landscape. The country stretches from the Baltic Sea to the Alps ranging through different altitudes, and therefore through different habitats for various species in both plants and animals. The forest that you showed had already become a monoculture before the end of the 19th century. The area is called Harz. The hills and forested area stretch over three federal states. It has since been proven that mining for copper started in the bronze age. In the middle age they found silver ore but first had trouble mining it due to the very hard rock surrounding it and due to the geology special to the region, which meant that they had to dug very deep. Mining started in earnest in the 16th century. Until the 19th century the majority of the silver minded Germany came from the Oberharz (that region). Before mining started, the hills were covered with the diverse vegetation, but fast growing wood was needed in order to rebuild the mining shafts. So they cut down the existing forest and planted spruce trees. These were fast growing and could be used in order to replace the beams and boards estate with away in the damp and cold mine shafts. Beams needed replacing every 10 years on average. The bark beetle has since destroyed most of the forest. I remember walking through it as a child. It looked like a scene straight out from a horror movie. At the time most people were very unhappy. But now that has changed. Ecologist managed to intervene and have the area declared a national park. You can see the natural forest slowly coming back. When I was there this summer I saw at least 10 different species of trees, most of them no taller than I am. Meadows are reforming. I hope to grow old enough to see the forest in the way it should have always been. If I do I will be among the first generations to see the resemblance of a proper forest for the first time in over 300 years.
I had a serious beetle issue in my mtn area when I bought my land. I had 5ac clear cut and left the stumps. Never reseeded. I let nature take its course. Now I 6:58 have full healthy woodland that I live on. I made a small enough clearing for my cabin. God takes care of the rest.
Lumber is the past , engineered structural composites are more popular, cost effective and more reliably graded, hemp and woodchips are useful for this, and whole forests are planted and harvested exclusively for pulp. Lots of factual inaccuracies.
@@grumpy3517 Wow. That's actually pretty clever. The same concept in architecture that lets us build complex structures using geometry and physics, being applied to the building material itself! Taking better advantage of less.
We "all" need to be caretakers of biodiversities, and be in awe of nature's magic. And bring an end to monocultures, and embrace the sustainable biodiversities! Excellent content, thank you and good effort WATOP, keep it up guys!
Trees don't grow in rows. They grow staggered so as to get more light and water. If they would use mules for logging, they get get into narrower and steeper areas. Then it would be feasible to harvest selectively. Mules produce valuable manure and have a working life of 20 years or more with generally good health. They can eat less expensive feed than horses.
Logging machines compact the soil and require many trees to be cleared just to enter a space. Mules or Mammoth donkeys do less damage. Inmates could be trained for the job so they can do it when released. The Amish aren't the only ones using mules or donkeys on difficult terrain. Horse Progress Days is an annual fair showing the latest mechanized equipment for eqiines. Many non-Amish also use equines. I am not a member of any association. I am just realistic about how to selectively harvest trees without compacting the soil and having to tear up excessive vegetation or access steep slopes. The forest service should hire Amishmen to teach prisoners and other interested people to learn how to use Mammoth donkeys and mules to remove dead trees in exchange for working a certain time period, starting at a low wage and increasing with skill level. Many forest fires could be prevented by removing dead trees and dry branches off the ground. Many steep areas are only accessible by mules and donkeys.
@@barbarabrooks4747 And what is the real-world operating cost to own enough mules plus hire workers to use them and keep them alive year round just to replace one large logging forwarder in comparison?
Paper industry is huge here in Finland and most of our trees are spruce / pine trees. I recently heard we have controlled forest fires here to keep the forests in balance and to prevent forest fires happening in general. I've never seen that being done but I think it makes sense because forest fires are quite rare here especially when you consider the fact how much trees this country has
It isn't the stink bugs that are at fault. Basically the trees are stressed because short of water, consequence of climate modification by 4 HAARP atmospheric heater installations on Guadeloupe that are being used to deflect weather systems northwards and deprive the US West Coastal areas of sufficient rainfall.
Very nice video. When i was young there was a crises of beetles attacking the trees all over south Norway. The main reason was that there was cut a lot trees and all braches was left on the ground, the areas then became more dry and that created a extremely ideal situation for these beetles that live from the wood and they became so many that it was a threat for all the forests of south Norway. Very interesting to learn more about how damaging it is to try substitite real forest with these green deserts that lack biodiversity.
I cut post and poles from lodgepole pines in eastern Idaho to thin them out, allowing the remaining trees to get to large size. Where I was there were some clear cut areas that caused erosion. Replacing the same species of trees seems like a good idea. None of the replanted trees were in rows. ☮️
Pine beetles aren’t just killing forests in the west… I live in Northern Ontario and I’ve witnessed the spruce and pine varieties of trees dying in masses being infected with these pests. This issue is clearly a problem across all of Canada and possibly all of Northern America.
Those beetle killed trees have value to the timber industry also. The wood is filled with worm holes and has a bluish gray striation that is actually quite beautiful when sliced into boards. Home depot & Lowes carry this wood which actually costs more than normal looking boards. I did the ceiling & trim with this wood in my cabin & it’s really beautiful.
Presumably everybody has heard of the "Interconnections'" between Trees in a mature Forrest and even the concept of "Mother Trees" mature trees that may have provided the seeds for many of the trees around it. Botanists' have witnessed these trees giving preferential though not exclusive support to their offspring. Currently when cutting down trees these mature specimens are the prime choice to be taken. From a Biodiversity point of view the vital subterranean wed of connections is most maturely established around these large trees. By leaving at least the single biggest tree (Per given Aria)you leave a healthy Simbiosis able to re-establish healthy growing conditions much more effectively. I would bet that the profits from one tree could not compare with those of a faster healthier regrowth of a whole new plantation if they could calculate it .
Evergreen needles being acidic is killing two 100+ year old oak trees on my mom's property, neighbor planted the evergreens on the property line too close together like 30 years ago
Yeah that's not a thing, too many other things to consider but acidity for old oaks isn't an issue. More likely heart wood rot and that has nothing to do with acidity that's like wrinkles with age. Changing the acidity is cheap and easy, but even the acidity from the needles only reaches 3 inches into the soil, so if the roots of the oak are being affected it's because the oak has shallow roots, also not a thing. I needed a new septic and drain field, we removed a ton of soil within 10 feet of my giant oak for 20 feet and put the drain field there. That was 25 years ago. How acidic do you think sewage is? The tree laughed, didn't blink we tore up ½ it's roots and flush it with too much water every day and rotting sewage. Acidity isn't the issue
He does this in all his videos (I think), I’ve often wonder why he doesn’t show his face. Probably worried about people stopping him in the streets and asking for an autograph or something. Pesky fans😊.
We have exactly the same problem in Poland. It was very visible in the Tatra National Park. Entire swaths of dead forest. As it turns out, however, it was not the natural forest that died. The natural forest was cut down at the end of the 19th century and replaced with artificially planted spruces. And this monoculture did not cope in our climate. You could just as well plant bananas or palm trees. The effect would be visible immediately and you would not have to wait 100 years. Fortunately, no one has been trying to fight it for years, and instead allowing natural forests to regenerate there.
Pine Bark Beetles typically only attack trees that are stressed or dying. It doesn’t matter if it’s a mono-culture or not. There are more than 600 species of bark beetles throughout the U.S. Bark beetles attack cedar, fir, pine and spruce trees. There are some beetles out there that go after arborvitae, cypress, elm, fruit, larch and redwood trees.
I always thought Monoculture forest was an upscale of monoculture farming (cept for crops you farm them for timber). So it will have the same weakenesess. Monoculture crop/trees means they are all vulnerable to the same bugs and diseases. That is why I always thought this was a bad idea. But I am glad people are actually realizing this.
You might have something here. California hires goat herders with their special trained goats to clear brush like Scots Broom. All you need is special trained birds that can be recalled for winter, or nightly. Seems farfetched? Where's our innovators.
@@thominaduncanson7596 I dont see why so much natuaral land is even allowed to be designated for industry. There is basically all the type of grown men in charge of it who can't even manage to do their own laundry while making the decisions that strip the planet of natural life. Apparently now one of the coolest looking birds is gonna disappear & that is pathetic to me. What kind of amateur really makes a species disappear to make their work days easier when there is plenty of jobs out there or even more sustainable methods for the same thing too. All it would take is a team member put in charge with some know how in forestry preservation. I just think it's kind of funny the way how now they would seriously need that species back after they themselves got rid of it accidentally & it would only be important after they realized they needed it. Like it would honestly help but its really that simple. It's like quit "picking the scab" in the same forests idiots. The devils in the details even the small ones like these. Honestly making something go extinct should put you in jail in my opinion since after all thats some cartoon supervillain stuff. But it will grow back when they stop and learn. It just takes a little effort to help nature itself the way people are supposed to & some time. At least maybe they learned by now with what this video says.
I 👍Your thinking. I wanted to highlight an aspect of Draining the Land. Of all the natural environments we impact "Wetlands" are by far the most impacted. From a Garden scale to entire regions the first thing man does is drain the land.(Obviously in wet conditions). Drained land is verry fertile least at first and tends to be flat and assessable once drained. Your forestry proposition strikes me as not confined in its benefits to those you present so well. Wetlands of every type are far grater Carbon Sequestrations' than forests and jungles probably second only to Marine Algae. In short massive wetland recreation is a Climate Mitigation Tool that can be achieved with little intervention and cost that brings us back to your comprehensive list of benefits.
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 It's above my pay grade, you need to check out why some tress are bad and some are good. I just know over all we need trees to give us life!
There is forest restoration and improvement in desert lands in Africa, the Middle East and in places like Arizona - we hope to use diversity and water management to help -= for now California is draining their rain water into the Pacific Ocean instead of using it to grow food and forest restoration - this must stop!
mono culture forrests could work if you added grids of different species, much like those tree lines around farms with either creeks or piled stone barriers. Those tree lines aren't wasted space, they have purpose for the farmland too. Having a veteran farmer to oversee those major mono plantations can fix this. Farm land is also a mono plantation. But they aren't just randomly planted. They are tended to and protected by those grids.
I am studying Ice Age conditions. I have a map of the extent of the glaciers greatest advance during the last one 30,000 to 12,000 years ago. A map of the Bark Beetle infestation came in the mail one day. The first thing I noticed is the 2 maps match! Mother Earth is clearing the land in preparation for the ICE!!!
This is a very incomplete and inaccurate correlation. There are a lot of factors to bark beetle susceptibility, and it has more to do with fire suppression than global climate change, albeit, fire suppression and the catastrophic burning of those forests is changing the micro climates of any given region.
During the 90's UK set up Community Forests funded by Forestry Commission, local councils and other organisations as well, they utilised local Groundwork Trusts to do the heavy lifting/ground prep and planted a mix of young trees/saplings in areas that had been left after industrial companies and processes had moved out, collieries slate mines etc, now some 30 to 40 years later we once again have healthy forests
You would think that they would only plant trees that are indigenous to that environment, Or at least mix it up a little. And wouldn't nature eventually adapt and evolve?
Logging companies in BC do NOT plant trees, they harvest the trees, silviculture companies plants trees. They get a contract where to plant and what sepsis to plant.
This is why biodiversity is important. If the newly planted forests are polycultural instead of monocultural, then they'd have a stable evolutionary process where the weaker trees die from the beetles while the stronger trees that are better at defending themselves from the beetles will survive & pass on their genes to the next generation.
As an arborist who owns a ranch and is working on Forest restoration I must say thank you. We have to get in there and cut these middle-aged trees down to make room for an oak or a meadow or some Aspen
True thing. I live in Vancouver BC at the mouth of the Fraser River. By August in many recent years Smoke from forest fires further north has come streaming down the Fraser Valley blotting out the sun for weeks at a time. Our towns are burning. This never used to happen. Now it's an anomaly year when it doesn't.
They didn’t blame it on climate-change, they blamed it on monoculture. The only thing they said about climate-change is that it increases the potential of fires occurring. However, the real reason is greed, money-driven greed!
This is so true. Walking through the rows of rubber tree farms in SE Asia, you find nothing living there, no grass, no birds, no animals. It’s not a habitat if only one type of tree exists there. No food, no cover, no resources for animals.
@14:41 How does this contain the infestation? Wouldn’t the falling of the tree and all the commotion prior to and after the tree being cut down cause the beetles to flee and most likely just move to other trees?
In essence it 1 clears the area from convenient vectors to spread the infestation. Cuts often include cutting even trees that are healthy but too close to source of infestation 2 disrupts the life cycle of the parasites as they need living tree of specific species to grow into full adult bug so many of the parasites do die off in larval stage without ever gaining opportunity to infect another tree.
US Government needs to be planting 2,000,0000 trees a day or more for 10 years or more to combat climate change ...and find predator for the beetles if comes to be an actual problem, but if they are just eating dead trees than no problem ...
The soil in Brazil isn't very good to begin with, but torrential rains wash away what little nutrients the soil has in deforested areas over two or three years, making the situation worse.
One very important thing that needs to be mentioned is that when you cut down and clearcut the trees from a forest, you remove the fertilizer that the next generation of trees will need. It is my understanding that in most cases, depending on the local conditions, you will only get 2 -3 crops of trees from one location. After that, it becomes a desert, and the soil will just wash and blow away without any roots to hold it together. Everyone knows that to have a harvest, you must fertilize. To my knowledge, logging companies are not taking this fact into consideration, at all!
@@somaday2595 Black spruce is the most glaring. Just google this species and learn yourself. But there is not even so much the problem with facts but with overall understanding -- facts taken out of completely different stories and mixed together into a surreal tale. Like draining swamps -- true, but has hardly anything to do with Fort Mac and Northern Alberta in general. Trees plantations and planted trees are not the same thing -- pictures shown from completely different areas than what is discussed. Or not understanding the difference between different forest zones and their composition and life cycle. Boreal forest, in this case. Anthropological influence since prehistoric times. Fun fact, for example- Jasper Park territory, in times of natives, had only 10 percent of the forest being overmature. Etc., etc. etc. The guy makes good videos. Why not spend as much time on sound research?
The market value of pine beetle-killed lumber can vary, but it's generally lower than that of healthy lumber. Beetle-killed logs can still yield about 10% to 20% of the value of healthy logs, depending on the extent of the damage However, due to the high demand for lumber, prices have been significantly higher in recent years, sometimes reaching up to $1,500 per 1,000 board feet. That's money for trees that wouldn't otherwise be allowed to be cut and sold in the first place. It's a racket.
I don't know much about the characteristics of the pests, but it would be a necessary invention to develop a bug vest that you could put on old specimens or create some kind of protective layer, or special pheromones that would deter the beetles from attacking the trees. -->>>>>>Or bait for beetles that use pheromones to attract the beetles and keep them away from the trees, where they then die from the poison.
Don't forget the beam tech, or arson, the kind that miraculously showed up to wipe out a hawaiin island that had unanimously said they didn't want to become a smart island... What a coincidence that mother nature destroyed an island the second it went against the globalists
The trees have chemical and metal exposure. Conifers struggle with this more than others. The Beetles show up as the clean up crew when the tree is already weak/sick.
I have been driving by a farm community for years now and have watched the beetles slowly take over. They had a forest fire years back but this year the first fire ripped through the whole valley and burned a significant portion of the housing. Insurance companies figured this out a couple years ago and started cancelling everyone's policies.
I’ve always felt like those monoculture forest had something “wrong” or “off”. Thank you for providing good explanations about this intuition
In Germany we let huge parts of the woods die.
It took a while, but now there is healthy natural wood growing 🤷🏼♂️
Let natures powers work ‼️
Yes, nature doesn't need us, quite the opposite. Apart from desertification we really should leave it to it's own devices (unless we are fixing our own fukup's of course).
That sounds good on paper, but North America has a poaching epidemic. In this case, I mean tree poaching of course.
Lands allowed to go through their natural growing phases are often targeted by greedy individuals looking to make a profit. So even if you bought a national park sized plot of land to invest into sustainable harvesting, you would need to constantly keep vigil over your land for various intruders and have the authorities watch over your investment. You also need to make profit from your land in order to have the finances to maintain it, as well as to pay your taxes.
So companies buy massive chunks of land, clear cut it, sell what they can while waiting for their "crops" to mature, then reap their rewards and repeat.
@@jonathangauthier3549 So you need to solve your socio-economic problems. Saying "we can't do A because B, so we do nothing" isn't very smart, isn't it?
@@AleaumeAndersno it is, it’s more than reasonable to say that if something doesn’t work in practice to try something else
@@minotaurmikeftwmike7712but we havent done it to know it doesnt work...
Why in the hell are we still using trees for paper when hemp is so much less intrusive. Oh, I forgot the timber industry is too invested and lobbied to even acknowledge hemp and it's potential.
you should google who owns all the timber companies and follow that money trail :)
Is there any substantial difference between a spruce plantage and a hemp plantage?
Just wait until everyone figures out about the farma industry
@@marcelma Spruce goes in one place and hemp in another. I'd say that they are both low maintenance but don't have any real specific data. Hemp is sustainable with way less inputs overall it is a weed by nature remember.
The wood pulp industry is worth billions, and is the monopoly of billionaires. We can't have that money every year going to struggling family farmers! BTW, hemp produces a much higher quality paper than tree pulp.
My dad owned a timber company for many years. He had 3 big rules he drilled in my head, 1. never clear cut 2. never reseed 3. never disturb the land more than absolutely necessary. He told me that replanting was just asking for disease and that the trees left by not clear cutting would do the reseeding for us. Looks like he was right.
That works for places that have remaining trees. Volcanic Islands on the Pacific were originally seeded by birds bringing seeds from other places as there were no initial trees there because the islands formed from underwater volcanoes that accumulated lava over time. The bird would eat some seeds in one area, and defecate on the new island as they lay eggs. The output providing fertilizer for the seed. A cooling volcanic island that was a little bit warmer may have encouraged birds to lay their eggs there because they wouldn't have needed to cover the eggs so much. In a desert environment where whatever wood to be found was harvested long ago, the only option would be to introduce species from similar environments that could survive a dry environment like this.
@@HepCatJackNot the same situation maybe,
Definitely going to disagree. And I actually know people who do that technique cuz they have their own private land. They just selectively cut when the prices are high.
But I grew up in an area with Douglas firs. And Douglas firs love the sunlight. I mean once they hit their teenage faze they start growing two growth spurts a year on a good year.
We're talking two or three feet per year.
You just don't get that type of growth when you have a tree in the middle of a selectively cut or thinned forest.
Not for nothing though if you have some champion level trees. A thin Forest is a good way to get some really good trees in the future. And selective cutting is the best way for a long-term live off the land forestry.
But I guess it all depends on where you're living at.
/ Side note / they were places that I used to gather firewood at when I was a kid. That you can't even tell there's a road there now because of the way the growth has happened.
Mountain Top views where once upon a time they did Tower logging and you could see all the way to Canada add up to the Olympics and the 101 towards Lake crescent.
And now the view is completely submerged in trees.
Time sure Fly's by.
@@skeletorrocks2452 the Japanese use the Bonzai technique to harvest timber from the tree without killing it. This technique has been introduced in some African countries.
@HepCatJack it seems feasible. Just pruning and using would especially if you're using say a rocket stove or something similar.. But I'd have to see more information on it to really believe it.
In the part of western Oregon where I live private companies are replanting with three to five species, following the recommendations of the Oregon State University School of Forestry. They're even doing the smaller clearcuts that are recommended.
They're depending on improvements in technology for eventually cutting trees because the different species need to be harvested at different intervals. There is also at least one company that has committed to cutting at no intervals less than 80 years, and not clearcutting at all any longer.
Read a study...I think decades old...that mentioned Washington/Oregon where Orgeon has some large hemlock forests and favors them in many areas...but still have many douglas firs...where as Washington has a lot of hemlock but more favors large forests of douglas fir. So nature does do "monoculture" LOL xD...in a limited way of course. And of course the gypsy moth don't care if its douglas or hemlock :>)
@@Kevin-x4p4y there are always some trees that grow better than others. But in a natural forest you have different sizes of trees. So a fire may consume some of the lower trees while the bigger ones survive. There will even be more fires which clear much of the wood stockpile aka the fire can’t find so much fuel.
What is happening now is what always happens to monocultures, natural or human made, they get destroyed. Why do bananas or oranges are in trouble now? Because they are lacking diversity. In a Natural environment a beetle will destroy a tree or two or ten but afterwards some birds etc. will go after these beetles. But they need different trees to nest on so you will not find them in monocultures. They constantly need food aka sick trees with the beetles that cause the illness, something you don’t want in monocultures. There you want to take out sick trees as soon as you spot them to safe the rest. Without sick trees there are no birds living on the beetles and so there is plenty of food for the beetles but no enemies.
Monocultures just take a very small part of an ecosystem but they miss the part that is reducing the productivity of a natural system but is essential to keep it healthy.
I have worked in silviculture in western Canada and can tell you that this video is full of false statements. I have planted hundreds of thousands of trees in my lifetime. We always replant multiple species, sometimes up to five different species, to replicate the original forest cover. Not only are we trying to replicate the original distribution of species but saplings are created from seeds from the same forests that were logged. When replanting the seedlots have to match the cut blocks that they were grown for. The creator of this video has no clue of how cut blocks are replanted here; my guess is that he got his information from some woke and uninformed environmentalist.
For what I have seen many mountain sides in Oregon are eviscerated....clear cut and leave the stomps...even after years nothing grows....
@@philhey8847he's talking about the corporations that grow yellow pine after raping old growth trees then cut the yellow pine (junk tree) every 7 years
Seems people are not aware that trees EAT carbon dioxide and give us oxygen in return ESPECIALLY broadleaf trees. Thats why forests smell so good, the air is RICH with oxygen. Carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant as some claim, its PLANT FOOD so just plant more trees especially deciduous broad leaf that also make MUCH better furniture as they are all hardwoods.
co2 isn’t a pollutant it’s what the co2 is carrying with it that is
And farmers pump See Ohhh Two into greenhouses to get better crops. We need more of it, not less.
@@alibali672 yes but we don’t need to do it on a planet wide scale
@@Slavicplayer251 We need to do this on a "planet-wide" scale.
@@paullowman9131 No we don't
The solution -->
1. Mix 50 different tree nuts and seeds into a crop duster.
2. Spray the landscape.
3. Let the trees compete in a free market, without government.
4. Thank me later.
Amen
Only 50? What if the pilots eat all the ones they like?
Well just because something is better at competing in early stages dosent mean it will survive as long in that environment or be suitable to form an ecosystem
Or maybe try out the Miyawaki method.
@@karmapolice247I'm googling it now 🤠
This report is simplistic. All trained foresters know about problems with monoculture tree planting, and a good effort is made to make forests as natural as possible. Some of the best managed forests are privately held by families who have expertly managed their forests for generations. Yes, Germany had a problem with monoculture, which resulted from ignorance in action, which is the usual culprit in a lot of human disasters.
We have "trained foresters" but they STILL plant mono culture...and aerial spray to kill the leaf trees....
@@gbrown9273 the OP is proud that his country let rich people have private forests that are maintained by paid foresters, the companies that are using trees are off to eastern Europe trafficking wood.
In short "look how nice the forests are, don't mind the bloody logs on the truck he had to argue that eastern Europe has the right to have forests too , those uncivilized people wouldn't know how appreciate their forest anyways".
TLDR: he's bragging how they didn't do shit about the corporations deforesting Europe, they just swept it under the rug and yapping about tradition(a thing that corporation don't give a single f about and they bribe people to not follow them)
From Canada. See evidence of mono culture planting everywhere. Making a point to the masses requires some simplicity else people abandon the problem to the "experts" who caused the problem in the first place.
@@ebradley2306 I have seen so "called experts" that just because they have a "degree" ( wonder where they got it) telling everyone what to do, they do not have PRACTICAL experience....they just read it in a book somewhere...which may or may not be correct...
My uncle owns only a 100 acres. It's mostly all pine. Every blue moon he will sell about 5 acres and let's it start growing again. And it'll be years before he'll sell another 5 acres. By then the last 5 acres are already growing back lush, thick and healthy. I love it there. It's so peaceful and the air and fragrance is so relaxing. It's been in his family for many generations
Paradoxically, America’s dying forests offer an opportunity for ecosystem regeneration. The dead trees provide nutrients to the soil, allowing new growth. This shows that nature has a powerful ability to heal and regenerate itself.
The decomposong dead tries are now a major source of GHGs, making a much smaller contribution in soil nutrients value than would have occurred had the trees been harvested live with a certain amount of residual left on the land. Everyone knows we should have started harvesting those trees as soon as we were aware of the pest infestation, to limit its spread, harvest the trees when they might have had some market value, and reduce the volume of dead trees that just become fuel for fires. Now that it is too late, we should be harvesting the dead fibre, and pyrolyzing the recovered waste to add some value (tho' less than we would have otherwise realized). But we have to make sure that the companies don't just show up eith heavy equipment and
strip the dieing stands clear, which would lead to soil erosion, moisture loss and weed infestations that could block natural and managed tree and shrubs regeneration. The dead tree clearing has to be a well-planned and managed process. And maybe good work for now-out-of-work loggers who know what they are doing.
We live on property that was in a forest fire in 1996. What burned was mostly old growth spruce with many dead from the spruce bark beatle. Now we have birch about 20’ tall and quaking aspen 30’ tall. Also there is a lot of undergrowth that moose browse on.
Why when English settler's came to america were the forest's full of trees that were hundreds of feet tall? Old logging photos show entire towns worth of people standing on one stump of a freshly cut tree. (We're talking thirty to forty people standing on one stump with room left over). It's a paradox that's been solved. Do you have any idea how many times in human history the entire planet had been reforested?
Yep...The Yellowstone fires of 1988 sure came back quick and even better than before.
Yeah old trees don't take in any carbon from the atmoshpere either.
We hate wildfires but thats because we are in the way. But its natures way of getting rid of things like this.
you're in luck then. We going to have a few of those. Just paint your roof blue ;)
natural wildfires extinguish themselves, or animals stomp it out etc, warthogs, elephants, buffalo, bears... all manage forrests and prevent widespread intense fires.
but we killed them all...
we dont maintain forrests, or resevours...
so they burn vast areas and no one teaches us how to do the jobs the animals we killed off did... our own stupidity, on top of dew and greed is now coming full circle...
Thanks for letting us know. Fuggin DEWS@@Kristoffceyssens
100% correct
Fire is both normal and necessary
Is it "nature" that causes wild fires to burn in straight lines? Or burn a half of a house while the other half is untouched? Does lightning look like ⚡or like ☄️(lasers come in straight lines down)? California and Hawaii are two examples of suspicious wild fires followed by lots of rain and mudslides as if to contaminate evidence (just saying, not blaming one or many).
I was a sawmiller by profession for 10 years on the edge of the Australian outback. The particular tree I harvested the cypress pine was used in wooden house frames because it was termite resistant. It was amazing to see the number of saplings that grew from where trees were felled. If these trees were not felled fierce wild fires were the result..
Another Aussie here. Having lived through the 2020 bushfires, I would say that pines and natives are the worst trees for our country to plant. Our natives have evolved to burn and will, ferociously. Pines are not native and are a menace, burning like fireworks, exploding and spreading fire faster than can be contained. Our nation's capital, Canberra, learnt that the hard way. Although many Australian idealists would disagree, we would be better off planting northern hemisphere trees. Deciduous, broadleaved trees do not burn as easily, go dormant in droughts, grow well in our climate and provide the oxygen we need. There will always be enough stands of natives for our koalas to live, if the government listens and the acres and acres of monoculture pines can be a thing of the past. Just a thought from an old gardener.
Here in Alaska, spruce bark beetles have decimated the spruce forests and a lot of it has come back as deciduous trees. The forest is changing.
I have a plan for this. I'm struggling to break it down into a short message though but I'll try:
1. Small (10 acres) farming homesteads as a business model.
2. Bamboo, hemp, jute and food forestry for said farms.
3. Building of swales for natural water flow on said farms with hugelkultur berms in some areas.
4. Atmospheric water generators running off solar energy (passive solar, not solar panels) and water storage within earth ship style homes/structures.
5. Main exports of these small farms are:
Bamboo laminate flooring, cutting boards and lumber products (light duty), activated charcoal and BBQ pellets/briquettes; among other possibilities like toilet paper and napkins.
Hemp linens, paper products and hempcrete mix; among multiple possibilities.
Honey from apiaries specializing in meadow flowers (for sites that focus on meadows instead of forests).
Mycelium cultures and gourmet mushroom products (for soil specialists focusing on farmland restoration).
Saplings for arborist nurseries.
Special focus is on ambient humidity studies that should go on year round for chosen sites prior to selection, as awg plays a larger role in the idea than groundwater and rainfall. The point is to actively collect what is already in the air as a potable water source and to store enough reserves to support a family there for a year before then utilizing excess production to support the land.
There's more to this but this is already a long comment. I have a similar concept for correction of ocean acidification too.
Great job. Ive developed the same perspective.
Ive designed an entire local community co-op for food supply and production.
I hope society starts perceiving this way.
There is a plus and a minus to everything. Becareful what you wish for because you may find yourself under 100% percent government control if the Democrats somehow win this presidential election. It's not fear mongering it's a fact.
permaculture 101
I heard a guy talk about making bread in a movie, Homegrown.
Billy Bob Thornton.
I don't know if you smoke but we have got to be the smartest most enlightened people with an education called "Refer Madness".
After so long, these drunk's are going to be our slaves.❤😂🎉
We serve nature and nature is very rewarding to "IT'S" investors of truth and life. 🧬
10 acres puts this out of reach for the vast majority of the population unfortunately
Seriously thank you. Too many people look at our forests and think that they are healthy. They come down on people like me. Thank you for educating them. This is the best video that I have seen in years. Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
I've seen same thing happened in Germany. Trees that thrived at certain altitudes were planted en masse at the wrong altitude. Now the dead trees are being replaced with a more natural mixture of fast and slow growing trees. It costs more to go in and harvest the ones that matured first, but then the remaining trees grow like crazy and will be ready for harvest in the years to come.
Hahaa😂...oxymoronic planting trees for harvest in years to come"
Contrary to popular belief, bark beetles don't... bark
Har har hardy Har
Do you know how to identify a Dogwood tree?
@@TepidJean How?
@@mrJety89 by the bark
@@TepidJean of course lol
Those pine forests they plant as a mono-crop, so that’s why one pest can attack the whole field. If they mix them up with different trees like nature would do they wouldn’t lose a whole field at once.
People love the fall colors when the leaves change. They don't understand different tree's leaves turn different colors. Some red, some yellow, some brown. Most think it's pretty but don't understand these are different trees all helping the other trees survive.
O.k. I like your channel and typically really interesting and accurate information. I am a forester and wildlife biologist, so regarding even aged monoculture stands I needed to chime in so that everyone does not think all plantations are ecological deserts. Not time or room to explain in detail but pure even aged stands do sometimes occur naturally and though stands like pine plantations are not typically optimal habitat, they are used , often to a large degree by wildlife. There are other negatives but you also need to understand some of the positives. For instance establishing vegetative cover on marginal sites that may be susceptible to erosion, or sites that do to soil quality will ( with current conditions) support diverse plant life or are fertile enough for agriculture. As foresters we know the world needs forest products and as biologist we want species richness and diversity. Therefore we try to grow high production stands on areas that will provide the most yield using the least acres. This allows us to save more land that can have increased species richness and quantity. Habitat management and resource management is a balancing act and the people working to preserve and improve things have a complicated task but I will tell you, overall if you take take to study and get a good understanding you will that in the US and Canada we do a pretty good job. Thanks and I like your channel.
If you are doing such a good job, then why are the pines trees in my state dying in HUGE numbers to the pine bark beetle? Mixed forests in my area ALL have these dying or dead skeleton trees, and suburban areas are even worse. Your “math” ain’t mathing-try a different spin. 🧐
Do u see the airplanes that spread the skies with chemical trails? They could also spread beetle eggs as well.
The problem is more than just fire, we have a tree in the Northwest that, in the 1980's they found is useful for treating cancer but they were losing the source because none were being replanted after harvest.
Look up the carnivore diet to cure cancer - Ken D Berry MD , here on RUclips - eating meat is the natural way to eat - many plants now were hybridized to have too much sugar - we now have an epidemic of food based illness in the USA - such a morbid obesity and childhood cancer
yew
Used to treat breast cancer but increases risk of uterine cancer
Scientists discovered that the anti-cancer agent in Yew trees came from the bacteria living in the Yew trees. The bacteria has been cultured and is now providing the anti-cancer agent without harming the trees.
@@geraldtakala1721Taxol is still used to treat cancer, but it is made semisynthetically from trimming hedges of related species in the UK.
Wow. You taught me something new i never thought of BUT it makes sense to me. Keep on keeping me aware and I'll keep sharing.
I lived in Fort Macmurry for six years and the Black Spruce around there are natural not replanted. Also they only grow in swampy areas so are naturally dominant with few if any other species of trees are there.
Dry swamps huh
0:48.. that's why fire's are good. You're showing an energy weapon in your thumbnail.
Exactly!
Yes
Control burns used to be a thing.
@robbymiller740 Controlled burns yes.
But thr Harp lasers are not good!
It's pretty crazy the temperature differences you can get in the same forest in winter. It gets nice and warm under the deciduous trees that lost their leaves, but stays 8-10 degrees cooler under the evergreens.
Even 3 hours after the sun has set, you can feel the difference and see it on a thermal camera.
I was once laughed at because I grab seed pods or nuts from all kinds of plants and literally throw them around my yard, they will either thrive or die, the rest is up to them, granted I stick to species native to my area, but hey, I have a nice diverse forest behind my home now, so the joke is on them.
I love the fact you do this! Do you have any academic experience with ecology?
I wish I had space to do the same. Good on you 👍
I just did the same thing this fall in my backyard. How fast did your plant seedlings grow after germinating?
I purchased a property many years back and after I moved in I stopped mowing half of my grass and just let the forest slowly grow back. I now have easily over 40 oak trees, a dozen pines and some maple trees; sure they are still mostly small- but in another 10 years it's going to really start to look like a forest again in that section. There just was no reason to have such a huge yard, so I sized it to what is needed an nothing more. Many generations back my property was part of an old farm estate that got sub divided. and no one really thought about regrowing forest vs keeping all that grass...and I didn't plant a single seedling :)
The plantations in the US South are teeming with wildlife. 50 years ago we had very little deer in our area. Now we have deer, turkey, rabbits, squirrels, wildcats, birds everywhere. We have plantations but they are full of wildlife, they are not “deserts”. 4:44 10/8/24
This presentation is pretty misleading, The USFS did plant tree, these are not a monoculture, the trees are elevation banded with trees from the same area. Silviculture is a very well researched science.
US Government needs to be planting 2,000,0000 trees a day or more for 10 years or more to combat climate change ...and find predator for the beetles if comes to be an actual problem, but if they are just eating dead trees than no problem ...
1:25 Nasty watery coffee and slurp
I plant trees for a living in British Columbia, Canada. You're exactly right about this. People should be a lot more aware of what's going on. One thing I will say though, is trees don't exactly get planted in perfect rows like the images you put up earlier in the video. It's quite inefficient to do that typically. But that doesn't really matter. What I would be concerned about from the workers side of things is specifications and being able to make money and a fair wage.
Tree planting is an incredibly difficult job. You get paid around 16-24 cents a tree depending on the specifications of the contract you're working on. Sometimes this is mono culture, more often than not we're planting 2 species though, pine and spruce are the most common. There are however more "proper" reforestation efforts where we do plant up to 4 different species at once. Typically pine, spruce, fir, and larch. These contract specifications are usually quite difficult, with each tree usually having to be planted with a specific density and ratio, with proper micro sites like high ground, wet ground, good sunlight, or shade specific to each tree, which takes a LOT more time, knowledge, thinking, planning, and speed while planting. Typically with these specifications it can be much harder to make a decent wage.
I have been tree planting for a few years now, and I'm able to make sometimes $500-600 a day! That sounds great right? Well, that's not every day. The more specifications you add, the more complicated it gets, and the less trees you are able to plant in a day. And typically the wages don't exactly match the complexity of the contract. I can plant well over 3000 trees in a day, and you can do the math at say 18 cents a tree... The problem is, with say a 22 cent contract, where I'm only able to plant maybe 1000 trees in a day busting my ass. There's a lot of times I haven't been able to make minimum wage with some of the specifications we get. And I'm a good planter. There was a day this year we had a 30 cent contract, but I could only plant 300 trees with the types of specifications I was given. That's about $90 for a whole day. Which not only includes the time allotted to plant the trees, that also includes the long drive to the block we're planting on, and then in this case, the extremely long walk in to where we need to plant. We go to very remote places in the bush, sometimes not accessible by vehicles. And when you have a 5-6km walk in, that can take quite a bit of time from your day. In and out. Then the drive home to be back before dinner. Not to mention there's usually some unpaid work you usually have to do when you get home as well. Making $90 in a day busting your ass for 14 hours is not even legal really, but we let it slide.
The industry is also very heavily reliant on newcomers who are just learning all of this. If a veteran planter can't make a decent wage planting, surely the new people will not be able to make minimum wage. I've seen it quite a bit before. It's a wonderful job, but the learning curve for your first year is insane! I'm still learning... And in an industry where workers rights are quite often violated, and taken advantage of, I would be slightly concerned about what a more "proper" reforestation project could mean for workers and our beloved job. At the end of the day it's all a money game. And unfortunately people want to pay as little as possible for something to get done.
From my experience the wages won't end up matching the significant increase in difficulty for creating specifications to ensure proper reforestation projects. There are however small companies with low overhead and highly experienced, skilled and talented workers that I could see possible, but doing this at scale would be extremely difficult. Who's going to pay for it?
Great video, I really appreciate people who are making an effort to get these messages out there. Just always remember, there's the people who plant the trees, and we need to make sure they're taken care of as well :)
Hi Steve! We have those beetles in our area, it is what killed the only pine tree we had. Thank you for the other information, that I didn't know! You have a great day and take care! Catch you on the next one!
Come on now ! They can make mosquitoes that harm humans but can't for beetle bugs, technology to fly to the moon but not kill beetles, and my name Eddie sausage head !
Actually they can. There has to be a reason to do the research. Better to prevent the monoculture in the first place.
Ironically, if the forests had been more diverse & had an understood to speak of, enough of a mix of species would be flocking to that area for food that the beetles wouldn't be that big of an issue. Something else would be eating them to keep their populations low enough that this doesn't happen.
Is that Summer or boiled Sausage?
We are preparing a video about Ottawa Canada, and we swear it's not that good news over there! LOL
12,000 years ago, the last ice age receded in Central Europe. Central and Western Europe slowly greened up and became covered by a dense beech forest over the following centuries.
Only in a few places did other ecosystems develop: e.g. in bogs, on the coasts, in alpine areas, etc. And only in a few places were there forest forms other than the beech forest. One of these places was the Hainich, where an oak/ hornbeam forest developed. Many thousands of years followed, and the forest grew and flourished.
People from the neighboring communities were allowed to enter the forest to collect firewood, mushrooms or nuts from the ground and in autumn they could drive their pigs into the forest to feed on the acorns. However, it was forbidden to cut down trees. However, he was revered like a saint in neighboring villages. From then on, the forest was part of the commons, a system that was common throughout Europe at the time:
The villages were surrounded by pastures, forests and lakes. These did not belong to anyone, they were not private. They were under the control and care of the local community, which met regularly to decide together who could graze how many animals, how many fish could be caught from the lakes and where trees could be felled for building purposes.
For many centuries, people thus ensured a sustainable approach to nature. It was not until the transition to capitalism [?] that these areas were fenced off and privatized, forcing the population to work for wages.
Centuries passed and people lived in a good relationship with the forest. From the 16th century onwards, bush regulations have been handed down, in which the sustainable management of the forest was recorded in writing. The surrounding communities met on fixed dates and agreed on the use of the wood, so-called Holzgedinge.
From the 18th century onwards, the forest was probably divided into parts and distributed among the neighboring communities. This meant that each community was responsible for its own piece of forest. This was a decision that would shape the forest in the long term.
When the so-called territorial reforms came about a hundred years later, the municipalities did not know exactly which parts of the forest would belong to them - which may have had a significant impact on the economical use of the forest as a result.
Back in the present, the largest contiguous beech forest in Europe is one of the remnants of the huge primeval forests that once covered large parts of Central Europe. In the Hainich National Park, the primeval forest in the middle of Germany, 90 % of the forest is free from human intervention.
_This forest “ages” naturally; trees are allowed to collapse, and the dead wood is left lying around - allowing a variety of new life to emerge. The Hainich National Park covers 7500 hectares - an area of forest that has become extremely rare today._
_There has never been an infestation of pests on this scale before. And again; all dead wood remains in the forest - panta rhei, everything flows, becomes and passes away, is all that takes place there. Without human influence, mixed beech forests would cover more than two thirds of Germany's land area._
I live at the foot of the Hainich - this last contiguous mixed beech forest. And when I die, after this fate, this forest will be my second womb. 🙏🌱💝🌱🙏
Yours sincerely,
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Mono cultures are a BIG problem. When spruce or pine beetles invade , there is no diversity to slow the beetles down, and the tree produces incredible amounts of sap trying to "drown" the beetles...When the tree dies, and needles dry out, they are like a "roman candle," and when they burn, they burn with incredible heat. Adding to the problem is that governments "in their wisdom" have been spraying roundup to kill the leaf trees, which are quite fire resistant... Leaf trees actually slow down encroaching fires, making some fires more "containable " ..When everything is super dry, and when a fire goes through it is super hot and super fast...to add to this government "enhanced " problem, the spraying of the leaf trees and brush, removes the food moose eat, leaving them with little or no browse, and the government wonders why their numbers are dropping....
Pretty spot on but part of the problem is drought, where trees cannot produce enough sap to push the beetles out. In California, they are just coming out of a years long drought. Also, another cause is that the political climate has been contrary to good forest management not cutting down dead trees or replanting burnt areas with mixed varieties of natural forests.
@@desertdenizen6428 Here in non drought areas of the world, the bark beetle still killed "zillions" of trees, and the dead trees are full of sap.. and extremely flammable..
@@gbrown9273 Is it one species or are there different ones? I know around here they are referred to as Pine Bark Beetles. In the area I'm most familiar with, the pines are mixed with oak trees and the oaks seem to be unaffected. This area is located in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada. It's a mess anyway.
@@desertdenizen6428 British Columbia, no oaks... Poplar, cottonwood, quaking aspen, fir, spruce, pine. and probably the same pine beetle..
And selective logging fell out of favour
This guy’s voice is great.
not really
Your forgetting the most important part, the spores they carry cause mycelium to invade the parts they bore into and with say the oyster mushrooms mycelium is very aggressive to dead parts of trees, quickly spreading through the live tree by following the tunnel of the beetle helping kill the tree faster. Now you have a forest that's producing carbon dioxide instead of oxygen.
You didn't mention that fast grown wood is garbage for building anything because the growth rings, which give the wood its strength, are too far apart. The growth rings in a slow grown natural are tightly packed together, making it immensely strong.
that's capitalism 😉
Those little critters are ravaging the alps too. Sometimes the only solution is clearcutting the area and planting different tree species
Last summer bark beetles invaded an area where I do conservation work; they took out all but three of trees that had gotten old enough to produce cones and thus do their own seeding. So far this year there's been no sign of them, thankfully, and the dead standing trees aren't dense enough on the ground to be a real problem.
WATOP Thanks for the valuable video team for the audience!!
It's insane this information hasn't been shown more. I'm sharing this everywhere.
It's another case of "Control" gone out of control
10:37 first not all of Germany wooden areas looked like this. Even though Germany is much smaller than US we have a fairly diverse landscape. The country stretches from the Baltic Sea to the Alps ranging through different altitudes, and therefore through different habitats for various species in both plants and animals. The forest that you showed had already become a monoculture before the end of the 19th century. The area is called Harz. The hills and forested area stretch over three federal states.
It has since been proven that mining for copper started in the bronze age. In the middle age they found silver ore but first had trouble mining it due to the very hard rock surrounding it and due to the geology special to the region, which meant that they had to dug very deep. Mining started in earnest in the 16th century. Until the 19th century the majority of the silver minded Germany came from the Oberharz (that region). Before mining started, the hills were covered with the diverse vegetation, but fast growing wood was needed in order to rebuild the mining shafts. So they cut down the existing forest and planted spruce trees. These were fast growing and could be used in order to replace the beams and boards estate with away in the damp and cold mine shafts. Beams needed replacing every 10 years on average. The bark beetle has since destroyed most of the forest. I remember walking through it as a child. It looked like a scene straight out from a horror movie. At the time most people were very unhappy. But now that has changed. Ecologist managed to intervene and have the area declared a national park. You can see the natural forest slowly coming back. When I was there this summer I saw at least 10 different species of trees, most of them no taller than I am. Meadows are reforming.
I hope to grow old enough to see the forest in the way it should have always been. If I do I will be among the first generations to see the resemblance of a proper forest for the first time in over 300 years.
I had a serious beetle issue in my mtn area when I bought my land. I had 5ac clear cut and left the stumps. Never reseeded. I let nature take its course. Now I 6:58 have full healthy woodland that I live on. I made a small enough clearing for my cabin. God takes care of the rest.
Hemp doesn't make very good lumber. Scraps from making lumber are used in paper mills.
Lumber is the past , engineered structural composites are more popular, cost effective and more reliably graded, hemp and woodchips are useful for this, and whole forests are planted and harvested exclusively for pulp. Lots of factual inaccuracies.
@@grumpy3517 Wow. That's actually pretty clever. The same concept in architecture that lets us build complex structures using geometry and physics, being applied to the building material itself! Taking better advantage of less.
@@grumpy3517 What are engineered structural composites? Fake wood? No thanks
We "all" need to be caretakers of biodiversities, and be in awe of nature's magic.
And bring an end to monocultures, and embrace the sustainable biodiversities!
Excellent content, thank you and good effort WATOP, keep it up guys!
Trees don't grow in rows. They grow staggered so as to get more light and water. If they would use mules for logging, they get get into narrower and steeper areas. Then it would be feasible to harvest selectively. Mules produce valuable manure and have a working life of 20 years or more with generally good health. They can eat less expensive feed than horses.
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@@Pengalen The Amish nod in your general direction.
Logging machines compact the soil and require many trees to be cleared just to enter a space. Mules or Mammoth donkeys do less damage. Inmates could be trained for the job so they can do it when released. The Amish aren't the only ones using mules or donkeys on difficult terrain. Horse Progress Days is an annual fair showing the latest mechanized equipment for eqiines. Many non-Amish also use equines. I am not a member of any association. I am just realistic about how to selectively harvest trees without compacting the soil and having to tear up excessive vegetation or access steep slopes. The forest service should hire Amishmen to teach prisoners and other interested people to learn how to use Mammoth donkeys and mules to remove dead trees in exchange for working a certain time period, starting at a low wage and increasing with skill level. Many forest fires could be prevented by removing dead trees and dry branches off the ground. Many steep areas are only accessible by mules and donkeys.
Mules are awesome. Glad to see they're finally getting their roses.
@@barbarabrooks4747 And what is the real-world operating cost to own enough mules plus hire workers to use them and keep them alive year round just to replace one large logging forwarder in comparison?
Paper industry is huge here in Finland and most of our trees are spruce / pine trees. I recently heard we have controlled forest fires here to keep the forests in balance and to prevent forest fires happening in general. I've never seen that being done but I think it makes sense because forest fires are quite rare here especially when you consider the fact how much trees this country has
It isn't the stink bugs that are at fault. Basically the trees are stressed because short of water, consequence of climate modification by 4 HAARP atmospheric heater installations on Guadeloupe that are being used to deflect weather systems northwards and deprive the US West Coastal areas of sufficient rainfall.
Don't take my word for it. Use Google Earth and search Guadalupe - you will find the antenna arrays..
You have done your research well.
Let me guess, you vote for Trump.
@@antoinevandamme6506 Independent of either party-both stink of corruption.
Very nice video. When i was young there was a crises of beetles attacking the trees all over south Norway. The main reason was that there was cut a lot trees and all braches was left on the ground, the areas then became more dry and that created a extremely ideal situation for these beetles that live from the wood and they became so many that it was a threat for all the forests of south Norway. Very interesting to learn more about how damaging it is to try substitite real forest with these green deserts that lack biodiversity.
it's absolutely beyond me how a country with centuries of experience in forrest management .. can mess up so big time ..
More like only a century of experience which is put every fire out you see no matter how small or far away which is biting the US in the butt
@@KILLKING110 are you talking about Germany?
The lumber companies are owned by foreign countries, so they do not care about damaging the environment, because it is not their home
I cut post and poles from lodgepole pines in eastern Idaho to thin them out, allowing the remaining trees to get to large size. Where I was there were some clear cut areas that caused erosion. Replacing the same species of trees seems like a good idea. None of the replanted trees were in rows. ☮️
Pine beetles aren’t just killing forests in the west… I live in Northern Ontario and I’ve witnessed the spruce and pine varieties of trees dying in masses being infected with these pests. This issue is clearly a problem across all of Canada and possibly all of Northern America.
Those beetle killed trees have value to the timber industry also. The wood is filled with worm holes and has a bluish gray striation that is actually quite beautiful when sliced into boards. Home depot & Lowes carry this wood which actually costs more than normal looking boards. I did the ceiling & trim with this wood in my cabin & it’s really beautiful.
Presumably everybody has heard of the "Interconnections'" between Trees in a mature Forrest and even the concept of "Mother Trees" mature trees that may have provided the seeds for many of the trees around it.
Botanists' have witnessed these trees giving preferential though not exclusive support to their offspring.
Currently when cutting down trees these mature specimens are the prime choice to be taken.
From a Biodiversity point of view the vital subterranean wed of connections is most maturely established around these large trees. By leaving at least the single biggest tree (Per given Aria)you leave a healthy Simbiosis able to re-establish healthy growing conditions much more effectively. I would bet that the profits from one tree could not compare with those of a faster healthier regrowth of a whole new plantation if they could calculate it .
This video perfectly demonstrates the phrase, “Missing the forest for the trees.”
Evergreen needles being acidic is killing two 100+ year old oak trees on my mom's property, neighbor planted the evergreens on the property line too close together like 30 years ago
Yeah that's not a thing, too many other things to consider but acidity for old oaks isn't an issue.
More likely heart wood rot and that has nothing to do with acidity that's like wrinkles with age.
Changing the acidity is cheap and easy, but even the acidity from the needles only reaches 3 inches into the soil, so if the roots of the oak are being affected it's because the oak has shallow roots, also not a thing.
I needed a new septic and drain field, we removed a ton of soil within 10 feet of my giant oak for 20 feet and put the drain field there. That was 25 years ago.
How acidic do you think sewage is?
The tree laughed, didn't blink we tore up ½ it's roots and flush it with too much water every day and rotting sewage.
Acidity isn't the issue
Few things more acidic than oak leaves-
Oak trees like acidic soil.
At that age...I'd be petrified xD
Thats related
The fact that science can be wrong doesn't necessarily mean it is. The ability to self-correct is a key advantage of scientific thinking.
Why cover your face while speaking of beetles?
DRAMA - I suspect - like maybe someone will be angry - you think?
He does this in all his videos (I think), I’ve often wonder why he doesn’t show his face. Probably worried about people stopping him in the streets and asking for an autograph or something. Pesky fans😊.
because hes lip syncing
So the beetles don't get in?
So Big Beatle doesn't know who he is
We have exactly the same problem in Poland. It was very visible in the Tatra National Park. Entire swaths of dead forest. As it turns out, however, it was not the natural forest that died. The natural forest was cut down at the end of the 19th century and replaced with artificially planted spruces. And this monoculture did not cope in our climate. You could just as well plant bananas or palm trees. The effect would be visible immediately and you would not have to wait 100 years. Fortunately, no one has been trying to fight it for years, and instead allowing natural forests to regenerate there.
I have done my duty and hit that like button
Pine Bark Beetles typically only attack trees that are stressed or dying.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a mono-culture or not. There are more than 600 species of bark beetles throughout the U.S. Bark beetles attack cedar, fir, pine and spruce trees. There are some beetles out there that go after arborvitae, cypress, elm, fruit, larch and redwood trees.
I live in Iowa. Instead of planting trees I'm putting in prairie plants native to the midwest.
Trees have their place but not where I live
I landscaped around my house using all native flowering prairie plants.
I always thought Monoculture forest was an upscale of monoculture farming (cept for crops you farm them for timber).
So it will have the same weakenesess. Monoculture crop/trees means they are all vulnerable to the same bugs and diseases.
That is why I always thought this was a bad idea. But I am glad people are actually realizing this.
Invest in woodpecker cloning I’m telling you!
You might have something here. California hires goat herders with their special trained goats to clear brush like Scots Broom. All you need is special trained birds that can be recalled for winter, or nightly. Seems farfetched? Where's our innovators.
Bring back the ivory billed woodpecker and THEN let’s talk.
@@thominaduncanson7596 I dont see why so much natuaral land is even allowed to be designated for industry. There is basically all the type of grown men in charge of it who can't even manage to do their own laundry while making the decisions that strip the planet of natural life. Apparently now one of the coolest looking birds is gonna disappear & that is pathetic to me. What kind of amateur really makes a species disappear to make their work days easier when there is plenty of jobs out there or even more sustainable methods for the same thing too. All it would take is a team member put in charge with some know how in forestry preservation. I just think it's kind of funny the way how now they would seriously need that species back after they themselves got rid of it accidentally & it would only be important after they realized they needed it. Like it would honestly help but its really that simple. It's like quit "picking the scab" in the same forests idiots. The devils in the details even the small ones like these. Honestly making something go extinct should put you in jail in my opinion since after all thats some cartoon supervillain stuff. But it will grow back when they stop and learn. It just takes a little effort to help nature itself the way people are supposed to & some time. At least maybe they learned by now with what this video says.
@@thominaduncanson7596 yeah, so much for college educated decision makers on both sides knowing that disasters are in the making and that birds lose .
I 👍Your thinking.
I wanted to highlight an aspect of Draining the Land. Of all the natural environments we impact "Wetlands" are by far the most impacted. From a Garden scale to entire regions the first thing man does is drain the land.(Obviously in wet conditions). Drained land is verry fertile least at first and tends to be flat and assessable once drained.
Your forestry proposition strikes me as not confined in its benefits to those you present so well.
Wetlands of every type are far grater Carbon Sequestrations' than forests and jungles probably second only to Marine Algae.
In short massive wetland recreation is a Climate Mitigation Tool that can be achieved with little intervention and cost that brings us back to your comprehensive list of benefits.
Dying Forests mean dying deserts. Trees means life and rain, desert means death and nothing grows.
NASA surveys show a 20% increase in recent plant growth, more in marginal desert areas
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 That' bad, trees provide life for the area they are around as well as the planet.
@@JoeyRay-fz1qe Why are more 20% more trees bad then??
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 It's above my pay grade, you need to check out why some tress are bad and some are good. I just know over all we need trees to give us life!
There is forest restoration and improvement in desert lands in Africa, the Middle East and in places like Arizona - we hope to use diversity and water management to help -= for now California is draining their rain water into the Pacific Ocean instead of using it to grow food and forest restoration - this must stop!
mono culture forrests could work if you added grids of different species, much like those tree lines around farms with either creeks or piled stone barriers. Those tree lines aren't wasted space, they have purpose for the farmland too. Having a veteran farmer to oversee those major mono plantations can fix this. Farm land is also a mono plantation. But they aren't just randomly planted. They are tended to and protected by those grids.
I am studying Ice Age conditions. I have a map of the extent of the glaciers greatest advance during the last one 30,000 to 12,000 years ago. A map of the Bark Beetle infestation came in the mail one day. The first thing I noticed is the 2 maps match! Mother Earth is clearing the land in preparation for the ICE!!!
This is a very incomplete and inaccurate correlation. There are a lot of factors to bark beetle susceptibility, and it has more to do with fire suppression than global climate change, albeit, fire suppression and the catastrophic burning of those forests is changing the micro climates of any given region.
google 10,000 year old map. Interesting
If you were truly studying the ice ages you would know we literally just ended an ice age.
During the 90's UK set up Community Forests funded by Forestry Commission, local councils and other organisations as well, they utilised local Groundwork Trusts to do the heavy lifting/ground prep and planted a mix of young trees/saplings in areas that had been left after industrial companies and processes had moved out, collieries slate mines etc, now some 30 to 40 years later we once again have healthy forests
You would think that they would only plant trees that are indigenous to that environment, Or at least mix it up a little.
And wouldn't nature eventually adapt and evolve?
You mean avoid monoculture..
Too expensive and hard work for logging companies
They plant what they want to harvest for lumber.
Logging companies in BC do NOT plant trees, they harvest the trees, silviculture companies plants trees. They get a contract where to plant and what sepsis to plant.
This is why biodiversity is important. If the newly planted forests are polycultural instead of monocultural, then they'd have a stable evolutionary process where the weaker trees die from the beetles while the stronger trees that are better at defending themselves from the beetles will survive & pass on their genes to the next generation.
Our government needs to leave all the planet alone,along with the people on it...
Not only the type of tree but also the row disposition acts like a furnace for the airflow that feeds the flames...
The reason why so many trees are dying in the US is from the aerosol injection program that Brennen admitted to.
As an arborist who owns a ranch and is working on Forest restoration I must say thank you. We have to get in there and cut these middle-aged trees down to make room for an oak or a meadow or some Aspen
EVERYONE needs to watch & pay attention!
Chinese Beatles 😂 hahaha
True thing. I live in Vancouver BC at the mouth of the Fraser River. By August in many recent years Smoke from forest fires further north has come streaming down the Fraser Valley blotting out the sun for weeks at a time. Our towns are burning. This never used to happen. Now it's an anomaly year when it doesn't.
*I just KNEW this would be blamed on “Climate Change.” SMH.*
They didn’t blame it on climate-change, they blamed it on monoculture. The only thing they said about climate-change is that it increases the potential of fires occurring. However, the real reason is greed, money-driven greed!
@@LSD209 Can we just have ONE Fu&*ING video without hearing from the Climate Cult hymn book?
Reply the video in a quiet place with SUBTITLES to hear better
That’s the spirit. Fingers in ears La La La’ing away while the waters lapping at your ankles. Denial the American way.
@@wolfeflambe Kiss Kamala for me…
You hit the nail on the head. Monoculture forests are prone to pests where’s natural forests are strong because they have many different species.
*pandemic ends*
Steve: I will not change my formula
This is so true. Walking through the rows of rubber tree farms in SE Asia, you find nothing living there, no grass, no birds, no animals. It’s not a habitat if only one type of tree exists there. No food, no cover, no resources for animals.
@14:41 How does this contain the infestation? Wouldn’t the falling of the tree and all the commotion prior to and after the tree being cut down cause the beetles to flee and most likely just move to other trees?
Sorta what I thought.
In essence it
1 clears the area from convenient vectors to spread the infestation. Cuts often include cutting even trees that are healthy but too close to source of infestation
2 disrupts the life cycle of the parasites as they need living tree of specific species to grow into full adult bug so many of the parasites do die off in larval stage without ever gaining opportunity to infect another tree.
US Government needs to be planting 2,000,0000 trees a day or more for 10 years or more to combat climate change ...and find predator for the beetles if comes to be an actual problem, but if they are just eating dead trees than no problem ...
Here in Brazil they steal wood to deforest and still sell it abroad with the government's approval"
The soil in Brazil isn't very good to begin with, but torrential rains wash away what little nutrients the soil has in deforested areas over two or three years, making the situation worse.
One very important thing that needs to be mentioned is that when you cut down and clearcut the trees from a forest, you remove the fertilizer that the next generation of trees will need. It is my understanding that in most cases, depending on the local conditions, you will only get 2 -3 crops of trees from one location. After that, it becomes a desert, and the soil will just wash and blow away without any roots to hold it together. Everyone knows that to have a harvest, you must fertilize. To my knowledge, logging companies are not taking this fact into consideration, at all!
Not to mention the growth in between and the smaller plants that support themselves on the trees
Force Feed these bugs to Bill Gates
Wtf does Bill Gates have to do with any of this??
Bill Gates sucks!
He11 yes.
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@@walkashanger 🤡
I just happen to be working in the forestry of Alberta.
What can I say -- Dude toooo many mistakes in your tale; just do better research next time.
He has the confident delivery down though-
Please enlighten us on even one or two of the most impactful oversights.
Tell us
@@somaday2595 Black spruce is the most glaring. Just google this species and learn yourself. But there is not even so much the problem with facts but with overall understanding -- facts taken out of completely different stories and mixed together into a surreal tale. Like draining swamps -- true, but has hardly anything to do with Fort Mac and Northern Alberta in general. Trees plantations and planted trees are not the same thing -- pictures shown from completely different areas than what is discussed. Or not understanding the difference between different forest zones and their composition and life cycle. Boreal forest, in this case. Anthropological influence since prehistoric times. Fun fact, for example- Jasper Park territory, in times of natives, had only 10 percent of the forest being overmature. Etc., etc. etc.
The guy makes good videos. Why not spend as much time on sound research?
I just happen to be a.....
Shut up.
If you know the correct information please educate us.
The market value of pine beetle-killed lumber can vary, but it's generally lower than that of healthy lumber. Beetle-killed logs can still yield about 10% to 20% of the value of healthy logs, depending on the extent of the damage However, due to the high demand for lumber, prices have been significantly higher in recent years, sometimes reaching up to $1,500 per 1,000 board feet. That's money for trees that wouldn't otherwise be allowed to be cut and sold in the first place. It's a racket.
your ninja outfit just made u way cooler
I don't know much about the characteristics of the pests, but it would be a necessary invention to develop a bug vest that you could put on old specimens or create some kind of protective layer, or special pheromones that would deter the beetles from attacking the trees.
-->>>>>>Or bait for beetles that use pheromones to attract the beetles and keep them away from the trees, where they then die from the poison.
Are you sure it is not Jewish lasers destroying our forest😆🤣
It's the turpenes in the pine resin that is so flammable. Makes for the best kindling in an emergency
Forests are dying because of Chemtrail spraying.
Aluminum getting into the soil is a big issue. It's messing with crops too.
Aluminum is deadly
Aluminum = lead
UVC cookin em from the top down as well....
Don't forget the beam tech, or arson, the kind that miraculously showed up to wipe out a hawaiin island that had unanimously said they didn't want to become a smart island... What a coincidence that mother nature destroyed an island the second it went against the globalists
The trees have chemical and metal exposure. Conifers struggle with this more than others.
The Beetles show up as the clean up crew when the tree is already weak/sick.
What would help is female trees produce more oxygen.
Female trees?
I have been driving by a farm community for years now and have watched the beetles slowly take over. They had a forest fire years back but this year the first fire ripped through the whole valley and burned a significant portion of the housing.
Insurance companies figured this out a couple years ago and started cancelling everyone's policies.
the pretend ninja narration is foolish in this otherwise quality content