The problem is with the writers. They have no morals. They are petty, envious, boring people. They don’t understand why people are inspired by superheroes. They think it’s the power they have. They write these stories as their own fantasies they have instead of writing about what the character would do.
Yea, they’ve absolutely no idea what a hero is, because their own morals & beliefs are that of a villain, so they’re incapable of writing stories about heroes.
@ Chuck Dixon came up with a term called “super hero atheist” and I think it applies here. Basically he’s saying that they don’t believe in these characters as these heroic legends and instead want to just write them to push their own agendas or bring them down to our level and just make them normal. Take everything special away from them.
Well in the ultimate’s universe unfortunately so far. But I can’t blame you for believing that. These writers just want our characters to be morally gray all the times
@@mayotango1317 I think it’s a mandate at Marvel. The classic superheroes are NOT to be heroes anymore. They want to confuse readers with ambiguous morality characters and no real villain or heroes. It’s a pretty corrupt world out there and Marvel wants their comic universe to be the same.
Whats with Marvel’s obsession of either making everything morally gray or that our heroes need to be well…no longer heroes and more villains. Also She Hulk looks like full power Zarbon
Some people are calling this their favorite book. Those people have no taste. I cannot fathom a world where people think this crap is any good. The big problem is how this isn’t satire. Camp and his editor think this is good comics.
That’s sad actually if that’s your first marvel read. Too bad this is nothing compared to the original Ultimates from the 2000s,I’d highly recommend for you.
@@jonguyxx4531 The Mark Millar stuff put me right of the Ultimates. I was gifted a Ultimate Xmen later. It was like a bad soap full of melodrama. I found older mainline stuff to get invested in. Trying out several characters and two teams.
@ yeah I can see that with Ultimate X-Men and if I remember right it was all that bad melodrama that eventually murked the original title right before Ultimatum came along and literary flushed away most of the original Ultimate titles. I did enjoy the early issues of Ultimate X-Men that were written by Mark Millar and were very different and entertaining. It’s a shame that the later writers couldn’t bring their A game after his run ended. But yeah the early 90s X-Men is a great place to start as it was also my introduction of the X-Men comics following the 90s cartoon series when it first aired. Matter of fact it was that era that green lit the 90s cartoon in the first place. But yeah I almost forgot about the late 90s Avengers run by George Perez and Kurt Busiek,that’s actually the best recommendation of classic Avengers of the past 30 years in my opinion next to West Coast Avengers from the 80s to mid 90s perhaps if you don’t mind Captain America and Thor not being in the roster.
@@zzodysseuszz Are you psychic? I am getting Weapon X today! Got me eye on Old Man Logan? Read some Wolverine (Patch) Essentials #1-24, Hearts of Darkness and Origins. Got another Wolverine Essentials in the backlog.
Sounds to me someone wants to be edgy and wants to do 'The Authority 2.0' from issue 13 on if I remember right. The part after Jenny Sparks died and the Authority meddled with entire countries. Just that the Ultimates here sound much, much worse.
These books make no sense. They are fighting in a world that doesn't know anything is wrong. Did they think about these books other than using the Ultimate moniker.
Seriously, no other title besides Ultimate Spider-Man has interested me because I see the same problems I see in 616 and I don't want any more of that. No more replacements, I don't want any more great heroes losing title for representation.
Heroism lost any meaning in modern Marvel, just look tot he X-Men in latest years,every hero even the most idealist need have shades of grey in these days. I never liked of the original Ultimates because they were murderous assholes and a complete bastardization of the original Avengers and this new version isn't better too. I blame these moderns wrtiers that don't undersrtand morality or the basic notion of heroism. I wonder what Stan Lee would think about modern Marvel.
I want to Like Deniz Camp’s Ultimates but it’s hard to, His writing is so inconsistent. One issue he does good, another maybe decent/okay and then it just becomes questionable/weird, It’s frustrating. I actually do think Deniz has some pretty good ideas in this series but his writing quality is what’s holding it back, we are currently seven issues into this series and I still find it to be a very mixed bag This is supposed to be The most Important book in this New Ultimate Universe as it ties into everything that goes on in the whole line. Marvel/Hickman have a problem which they need to address fast, I honestly think that they need to do a soft reset on this series which they can do as Tony said in issue one: “We have Time Machine.” and start from scratch with a new and better writer. Nothing against Camp but, he’s proven that he’s not qualified for the series, they need to get someone who is.
Guys, I’m STARTING to suspect that MAYBE… just MAYBE… Deniz Camp doesn’t know how to properly construct a story. The characters are no smarter than the writer.
Fauxultimate universe is so bad it makes ultimatum look like shakespear. BP is a boring as 616 BP. X-men.... I have ignored after 3 issues. Ultimates... either the writer wants to be super edgy or doesn't understand hero comics. Spider-man is married to MJ and have kids. only good thing about this universe. the comic itself is boring and slow.
She didn't kill them. She says " I m sure someone will be along to cut them out soon". Before you say "but logic" it's fantasy. If I hit someone hard enough to "knock them out" that is a concusion and possibly death...but fantasy allows it to be a non lethal way to move along the plot. This universe is the one where the Maker made sure heroes didn't exist and the villains have a cabal that run everything. So yes the villains have troops with high tech armor. Yes they have a weapons facility to supply their forces. But now Kingpin/Hydra/ Maestro etc run everything. So I d give a pass if a guard basically says "but why fight Hydra just keep your head down" and the "hero" says no. They also established that Hawkeye never killed anyone in the issue where he fought Steve. Also yes Jim Hammond is the embodiment of the "hello fellow kids" meme. So yes it does appear to be humorous including lines like "we are the same age" and " they don't say that anymore" "are you sure?" "No". Also the Marvel Universe usually has the mutants feeling hated and the Avengers beloved but in the universe the villains control the media so they portray the heroes as the fascist terrorists. Terrorists are sometimes just on the side the media is against. George Carlin did a routine about that. In this universe whatever is bad about US media is also now controlled by super villains. And it would suck for someone who wasn't a super hero and just became one. I believe Spider-man had his whole "becoming a super hero" being hated by the media and having people believe it until he started to prove otherwise. One person at a time.
you are 100& right and that makes it 100% worse! They want to be badass and over-the-top and then just handwave nobody was hurt! That is a total cop-out and shows that the writers have no care for the character. America could have teleported those guys anywhere she wanted to get them out of the way - instead she melts their armor! And I think you are missing another point, in an issue were most of the team is upset about being terrorists, America and Hawkeye are doing acts of terror, even if people actually live - plus it seemed to be set up as just "blowing off steam" because Tony is dead/not dead
I think when they created the concept of the Ultimate Marvel Comics Universe Version 2.0 (Earth-6160) they were supposed to make it a point to not make the same stupid mistakes that the Version 1.0 (Earth-1610) had made. This reincarnation isn't just supposed to be the Ultimates reborn. It's also supposed to be better than the first version because it actually brought back stories that are classic concepts of true good versus evil that are made perfectly clear. Somewhere between not making the heroes just as rugged as the villains and not making the women characters beautiful they seem to have forgotten that.
@andrewvideogames Soy woke S.J.W.s (like you) hate the male gaze. So they never draw hot super heroines. Hot chicks in comics will always sell and be popular. But then again, I don't expect commies and satanists who hate America, and capitalism to ever understand.
Isn’t the overall narrative to undermine and fight back against the Maker and his council? I think you guys are really over exaggerating how over the top the book is.
they are crying that they are looked at as terrorists! The overall narrative is to gather a team of heroes before the year runs out to take on the Maker
@@WeirdScienceComics Hank had some concerns but it’s not like that was the focus of the whole issue. Fighting the Maker and getting new recruits has been a pretty consistent narrative throughout the series. A single issue exploring where everyone is at after the Hulk fight isn’t gonna hurt that.
@@WeirdScienceComics I’d be hard pressed to agree that two panels make up an entire issue. Like I said, this issue just showcases where everyone is at after what happened the fight with Hulk.
Let be honest, we all like "The Watchmen" and "The Boys" because the truth is, and we'll probably find out sooner than later - Comicbooks have never stopped being a form of propaganda - sure it went through a golden period of MERIT EARNS SUCCESS of the 70's to the early Millennium - BUT when comics first came out there were a tool of propaganda, as taught by figures like Edward Barneys. And much like today, back then they were used to promote the military industrial complex that was emerging. Meaning a lot of the original heroes of the public domain were replaced by Corporate counterfit rip offs. Green Lama vs The Spectre? Batman is a composite of The Shadow, Nyclatope, and The Phantom, with the flare of Spring Heel Jack. People like to say Superman was the "First superhero" but he wasn't he was just the first "Godly" Superhero comparable to Hercules and Thor. Circling around, most of these comicbook properties are now own by corporate monopolies, some of whom have questionable ties to certain Clandestine intelligence organization who like to use birds for codenames. These characters today seem to represent this 'caste/class' of people who work for such clandestine organizations. These heroes no longer represent the people, they represent the people who are trying to control the people, and that's why people navigated to "The Watchmen", "Authority" and "The Boys" because it was an authentic presentation of such dynamics. Like I said before, Marvel's characters went from Monsters to heroes to Clandestine monsters. As soon as they made cartoons of Spiderman recruiting minors for SHIELD I was done. Modern Marvel and the MCU have gotten the audience to cheer for villains and heroes who are no longer heroes.
@ what Spider-Man cartoon has him working for SHIELD Hint - White Tiger Last I checked high school students are minors What kind of organization is SHIELD? Having Spider-Man work for Avengers controlled by SHIELD? erased 5 decades of Canon? Spider-Man fought for the people Fought legacy media propaganda Taught under privileged kids science He wasn’t a technocratic corporate oligarch working for the CIA
Do people understand why Captain America became NOMAD? And why USA agent was a problem? Do people remember why the CIVIL WAR divides happened? Do people understand why Spider-Man refused to work for Fury or the Avengers? Work with but never for? Do people remember why wolverine left department H? Do people remember when Spider-Man was absolutely disgusted by the conduct of wolverine and would never accept Deadpool or any sociopaths … yet today with all the gimmicky writing..
As much as Ultimates does not hold my interests at all and Camp's storytelling is odd to say the least. Having just read his Ultimate Universe #1 I have say he did a pretty good job of that one shot. I Liked the storytelling from Ultimate Nick Fury's point of view, everything moved well, and the twist at the end was fun and intriguing. Plus nice little homage to Jim Steranko's "gun in the holster" image from original Nick Fury run. Jim Hammond thing....nit picking. WTF20.
Superheroes have always been two things: - Ideological or political propaganda pieces, regardless of which side you're on, left or right. - Products to generate profits for publishers or large companies. This is not far from the western origins of heroes. In Ancient Greece, the hero's main objective was the search for Glory or lost Honor.
This isn’t true. Some comics were, but are you arguing the grinch is political propaganda because the creator was hired by the military to make war propaganda?
You guys are part of the problem. You keep buying, and reading this dog shit comic and when you make a vid about it you actually promote it. Marvel is criminally destroying their classic characters that’s for sure.
I can’t wait to get my iPad this Christmas. The marvel app is available in my country ( not the DC app, though 😢). I’m going to everything from the 60’s to the 90’s. But the ‘modern audience’ stuff? Nah🥱
The problem is with the writers. They have no morals. They are petty, envious, boring people. They don’t understand why people are inspired by superheroes. They think it’s the power they have. They write these stories as their own fantasies they have instead of writing about what the character would do.
Pin this.💯
PERFECT !! 👑
Yea, they’ve absolutely no idea what a hero is, because their own morals & beliefs are that of a villain, so they’re incapable of writing stories about heroes.
@ Chuck Dixon came up with a term called “super hero atheist” and I think it applies here. Basically he’s saying that they don’t believe in these characters as these heroic legends and instead want to just write them to push their own agendas or bring them down to our level and just make them normal. Take everything special away from them.
What do you expect from communists?
The Marvel Universe is full of jerks who never believe in heroism.
Well in the ultimate’s universe unfortunately so far. But I can’t blame you for believing that. These writers just want our characters to be morally gray all the times
@@mayotango1317 I think it’s a mandate at Marvel. The classic superheroes are NOT to be heroes anymore. They want to confuse readers with ambiguous morality characters and no real villain or heroes. It’s a pretty corrupt world out there and Marvel wants their comic universe to be the same.
Heroism died in Marvel in early 2000's. Every hero have shades of grey now. I hate it.
Welcome to Marvel everyone, where the heroes aren’t really heroes
That's what happens when Hollywood takes over, sadly. And they've had their toxic hooks deep since 2009.
Yes,what beautiful new generation of human beings.
Whats with Marvel’s obsession of either making everything morally gray or that our heroes need to be well…no longer heroes and more villains. Also She Hulk looks like full power Zarbon
Where's Vegeta when you need him?
At this point I stopped caring
I don’t see many of the heroes today written as heroes still, sadly.
Yes,this are making me leaving superheroes comics forever.
Now, Marvel, do eventually you plan to have some super heroes in your super hero comics?
How Dare You!!!
Some people are calling this their favorite book. Those people have no taste. I cannot fathom a world where people think this crap is any good. The big problem is how this isn’t satire. Camp and his editor think this is good comics.
It’s pretty rad. The avengers as insurgents
We have to remember that there are a lot of “readers“ who don’t think critically when they read their comic books.😢
Aunt May: Superheroes must solve all problems with love and compassion, Peter. Now, go kick %$# and take names.
Peter was never a pacifist
@@andrewvideogames Peter is a pacifist yes. This is one of main reasons of why he never killed any of your enemies in battle.
@@EvandroACruz That’s not what a pacifist is
@@andrewvideogames Spider-man is the most pacifistic Marvel superhero. This is true In-Universe.
@ He punches people everyday. I’m not saying he’s a bad guy, but he isn’t remotely against using violence to solve problems
Its like the writers dont really know heros
Or like them.
@AL-ws5yi truuuue
God we so gone, if they parody Kid Omega of all things, there like 2000 more deserving characters for references and screen time.
Ultimate Avengers was my first Marvel read. I was like WTF? These guys are all a-holes and most are villains.
That’s sad actually if that’s your first marvel read. Too bad this is nothing compared to the original Ultimates from the 2000s,I’d highly recommend for you.
@@jonguyxx4531 The Mark Millar stuff put me right of the Ultimates. I was gifted a Ultimate Xmen later. It was like a bad soap full of melodrama. I found older mainline stuff to get invested in. Trying out several characters and two teams.
@ yeah I can see that with Ultimate X-Men and if I remember right it was all that bad melodrama that eventually murked the original title right before Ultimatum came along and literary flushed away most of the original Ultimate titles. I did enjoy the early issues of Ultimate X-Men that were written by Mark Millar and were very different and entertaining. It’s a shame that the later writers couldn’t bring their A game after his run ended.
But yeah the early 90s X-Men is a great place to start as it was also my introduction of the X-Men comics following the 90s cartoon series when it first aired. Matter of fact it was that era that green lit the 90s cartoon in the first place. But yeah I almost forgot about the late 90s Avengers run by George Perez and Kurt Busiek,that’s actually the best recommendation of classic Avengers of the past 30 years in my opinion next to West Coast Avengers from the 80s to mid 90s perhaps if you don’t mind Captain America and Thor not being in the roster.
@@PrivateCitizen84read early wolverine comics like Barry Windsor-smith weapon X
@@zzodysseuszz Are you psychic? I am getting Weapon X today! Got me eye on Old Man Logan? Read some Wolverine (Patch) Essentials #1-24, Hearts of Darkness and Origins. Got another Wolverine Essentials in the backlog.
Sounds to me someone wants to be edgy and wants to do 'The Authority 2.0' from issue 13 on if I remember right. The part after Jenny Sparks died and the Authority meddled with entire countries. Just that the Ultimates here sound much, much worse.
She melts the helmets and armour to their skin??? WTF kind of superheroes are these???!!!
These books make no sense. They are fighting in a world that doesn't know anything is wrong. Did they think about these books other than using the Ultimate moniker.
Ultimate Moniker?
Jim, Krakoa isn't over, this is phase 2. This is getting sad and depressing. Why is She-Hulk given huge lips? What is Hollywood trying to say?
How morally bankrupt are these writers?
@@johnnycage112 very!!!
Yes, heroism has no meaning for these guys.
Seriously, no other title besides Ultimate Spider-Man has interested me because I see the same problems I see in 616 and I don't want any more of that. No more replacements, I don't want any more great heroes losing title for representation.
Great !! 👍
Heroism lost any meaning in modern Marvel, just look tot he X-Men in latest years,every hero even the most idealist need have shades of grey in these days. I never liked of the original Ultimates because they were murderous assholes and a complete bastardization of the original Avengers and this new version isn't better too. I blame these moderns wrtiers that don't undersrtand morality or the basic notion of heroism. I wonder what Stan Lee would think about modern Marvel.
I just realized something
When was the last time a new super power was invented ?
When was the last time we saw a hero or a villain with a new power ?
DC, just did so several months ago.
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 Which one besides making straight characters gay ?
@@namelesswhocares8648
Let's look at YOTV, where Lex used Perpetua's Totality to give several other villains more superpowers.
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 And what new owners were these ?
@@namelesswhocares8648
RUclips just deleted my comment what series did I just reference?
I'm sure it's what Stan Lee and Jack Kirby would have wanted.
I want to Like Deniz Camp’s Ultimates but it’s hard to, His writing is so inconsistent.
One issue he does good, another maybe decent/okay and then it just becomes questionable/weird, It’s frustrating.
I actually do think Deniz has some pretty good ideas in this series but his writing quality is what’s holding it back, we are currently seven issues into this series and I still find it to be a very mixed bag
This is supposed to be The most Important book in this New Ultimate Universe as it ties into everything that goes on in the whole line.
Marvel/Hickman have a problem which they need to address fast, I honestly think that they need to do a soft reset on this series which they can do as Tony said in issue one: “We have Time Machine.” and start from scratch with a new and better writer.
Nothing against Camp but, he’s proven that he’s not qualified for the series, they need to get someone who is.
No offence, but kinda late for “rebooting” thanks to Time Machine considering how little time left before Maker arrival
Guys, I’m STARTING to suspect that MAYBE… just MAYBE… Deniz Camp doesn’t know how to properly construct a story.
The characters are no smarter than the writer.
@@SparrowAaron you think?! It’s obvious he’s a fkn hack
Fauxultimate universe is so bad it makes ultimatum look like shakespear. BP is a boring as 616 BP. X-men.... I have ignored after 3 issues. Ultimates... either the writer wants to be super edgy or doesn't understand hero comics. Spider-man is married to MJ and have kids. only good thing about this universe. the comic itself is boring and slow.
What is edgy about the ultimates? If anything it’s getting too much praise for having politics that aren’t as radical as people make it out to be
Eager to here your take on Ultimate year one recap one-shot.
She didn't kill them. She says " I m sure someone will be along to cut them out soon". Before you say "but logic" it's fantasy. If I hit someone hard enough to "knock them out" that is a concusion and possibly death...but fantasy allows it to be a non lethal way to move along the plot. This universe is the one where the Maker made sure heroes didn't exist and the villains have a cabal that run everything. So yes the villains have troops with high tech armor. Yes they have a weapons facility to supply their forces. But now Kingpin/Hydra/ Maestro etc run everything. So I d give a pass if a guard basically says "but why fight Hydra just keep your head down" and the "hero" says no. They also established that Hawkeye never killed anyone in the issue where he fought Steve. Also yes Jim Hammond is the embodiment of the "hello fellow kids" meme. So yes it does appear to be humorous including lines like "we are the same age" and " they don't say that anymore" "are you sure?" "No". Also the Marvel Universe usually has the mutants feeling hated and the Avengers beloved but in the universe the villains control the media so they portray the heroes as the fascist terrorists. Terrorists are sometimes just on the side the media is against. George Carlin did a routine about that. In this universe whatever is bad about US media is also now controlled by super villains. And it would suck for someone who wasn't a super hero and just became one. I believe Spider-man had his whole "becoming a super hero" being hated by the media and having people believe it until he started to prove otherwise. One person at a time.
you are 100& right and that makes it 100% worse! They want to be badass and over-the-top and then just handwave nobody was hurt! That is a total cop-out and shows that the writers have no care for the character. America could have teleported those guys anywhere she wanted to get them out of the way - instead she melts their armor! And I think you are missing another point, in an issue were most of the team is upset about being terrorists, America and Hawkeye are doing acts of terror, even if people actually live - plus it seemed to be set up as just "blowing off steam" because Tony is dead/not dead
Remember what I said a few months ago about "mundane bullshit"?
Jim is the Dennis Miller of comics.
lol
I think when they created the concept of the Ultimate Marvel Comics Universe Version 2.0 (Earth-6160) they were supposed to make it a point to not make the same stupid mistakes that the Version 1.0 (Earth-1610) had made.
This reincarnation isn't just supposed to be the Ultimates reborn. It's also supposed to be better than the first version because it actually brought back stories that are classic concepts of true good versus evil that are made perfectly clear. Somewhere between not making the heroes just as rugged as the villains and not making the women characters beautiful they seem to have forgotten that.
Are there ugly women in this book? What is this critique lol?
@andrewvideogames Soy woke S.J.W.s (like you) hate the male gaze. So they never draw hot super heroines. Hot chicks in comics will always sell and be popular. But then again, I don't expect commies and satanists who hate America, and capitalism to ever understand.
I liked the ultimate spider-man e black panther, xmen a little bit, but these ultimates, what about heroism? Being a beacon of hope?
I think the book is hopeful. The odds are way more stacked against these avengers then the main line ones
Same can be said about Absolute Batman. Oh wait “Batman A.F.” 🤢🤮
Isn’t the overall narrative to undermine and fight back against the Maker and his council? I think you guys are really over exaggerating how over the top the book is.
They absolutely are hamming it up to try and farm engagement.
they are crying that they are looked at as terrorists! The overall narrative is to gather a team of heroes before the year runs out to take on the Maker
@@WeirdScienceComics Hank had some concerns but it’s not like that was the focus of the whole issue. Fighting the Maker and getting new recruits has been a pretty consistent narrative throughout the series. A single issue exploring where everyone is at after the Hulk fight isn’t gonna hurt that.
@ This issue is 100% to remind the reader that they are looked at as terrorists
@@WeirdScienceComics I’d be hard pressed to agree that two panels make up an entire issue. Like I said, this issue just showcases where everyone is at after what happened the fight with Hulk.
Let be honest, we all like "The Watchmen" and "The Boys" because the truth is, and we'll probably find out sooner than later - Comicbooks have never stopped being a form of propaganda - sure it went through a golden period of MERIT EARNS SUCCESS of the 70's to the early Millennium - BUT when comics first came out there were a tool of propaganda, as taught by figures like Edward Barneys. And much like today, back then they were used to promote the military industrial complex that was emerging. Meaning a lot of the original heroes of the public domain were replaced by Corporate counterfit rip offs.
Green Lama vs The Spectre?
Batman is a composite of The Shadow, Nyclatope, and The Phantom, with the flare of Spring Heel Jack.
People like to say Superman was the "First superhero" but he wasn't he was just the first "Godly" Superhero comparable to Hercules and Thor.
Circling around, most of these comicbook properties are now own by corporate monopolies, some of whom have questionable ties to certain Clandestine intelligence organization who like to use birds for codenames.
These characters today seem to represent this 'caste/class' of people who work for such clandestine organizations.
These heroes no longer represent the people, they represent the people who are trying to control the people, and that's why people navigated to "The Watchmen", "Authority" and "The Boys" because it was an authentic presentation of such dynamics.
Like I said before, Marvel's characters went from Monsters to heroes to Clandestine monsters. As soon as they made cartoons of Spiderman recruiting minors for SHIELD I was done.
Modern Marvel and the MCU have gotten the audience to cheer for villains and heroes who are no longer heroes.
Wait huh? What Spider-Man cartoon are you talking about?
@ what Spider-Man cartoon has him working for SHIELD
Hint - White Tiger
Last I checked high school students are minors
What kind of organization is SHIELD?
Having Spider-Man work for Avengers controlled by SHIELD?
erased 5 decades of Canon?
Spider-Man fought for the people
Fought legacy media propaganda
Taught under privileged kids science
He wasn’t a technocratic corporate oligarch working for the CIA
Master ! and incredible script ... Thank You
Do people understand why Captain America became NOMAD?
And why USA agent was a problem?
Do people remember why the CIVIL WAR divides happened?
Do people understand why Spider-Man refused to work for Fury or the Avengers?
Work with but never for?
Do people remember why wolverine left department H?
Do people remember when Spider-Man was absolutely disgusted by the conduct of wolverine and would never accept Deadpool or any sociopaths … yet today with all the gimmicky writing..
@Spoeism in the golden past ... Now the writers and young readers are corrupted by the darkness in their hearts
As much as Ultimates does not hold my interests at all and Camp's storytelling is odd to say the least. Having just read his Ultimate Universe #1 I have say he did a pretty good job of that one shot. I Liked the storytelling from Ultimate Nick Fury's point of view, everything moved well, and the twist at the end was fun and intriguing. Plus nice little homage to Jim Steranko's "gun in the holster" image from original Nick Fury run. Jim Hammond thing....nit picking. WTF20.
again i think you are insane - that one-shot was a total waste of paper
@@WeirdScienceComics Again your opinion.
Superheroes have always been two things:
- Ideological or political propaganda pieces, regardless of which side you're on, left or right.
- Products to generate profits for publishers or large companies.
This is not far from the western origins of heroes. In Ancient Greece, the hero's main objective was the search for Glory or lost Honor.
This isn’t true. Some comics were, but are you arguing the grinch is political propaganda because the creator was hired by the military to make war propaganda?
@@zzodysseuszzEverything is political. Superheroes are especially political
I can understand argument for Hawkeye, but isn’t like Camp try to point out that those policemen that America burned are actually robots?
They aren't robots.
she says someone will cut them out of the suits later
Get a new writer (Garth Ennis maybe) and change the title to Punisher kills the ultimate universe, could be good
I've stuck with this just to laugh at so far. I think I'm done now, though. I pay for it. I can laugh at reruns of the Simpsons.
Pretty soon, Superman is gonna seem fringe, lol
You guys are part of the problem. You keep buying, and reading this dog shit comic and when you make a vid about it you actually promote it.
Marvel is criminally destroying their classic characters that’s for sure.
Marvel gives us the books
I can’t wait to get my iPad this Christmas. The marvel app is available in my country ( not the DC app, though 😢). I’m going to everything from the 60’s to the 90’s. But the ‘modern audience’ stuff? Nah🥱