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  • @lunkydog
    @lunkydog 3 года назад +365

    Steve is a wordsmith. He is the face of hunting that needs to be seen every where when it's being questioned.

    • @josephsmithmeyer1195
      @josephsmithmeyer1195 2 года назад +3

      I agree with that he's a great spokesperson Annie explains controversial situations very very well and he does it without trying to disrespect anybody

    • @GSTACK57
      @GSTACK57 2 года назад

      Steven*

    • @fliesbyme
      @fliesbyme 2 года назад +2

      Truer words counldn't be said...unless they were from Steve. Remi is not all too bad to listen to either.

    • @nickreynolds8391
      @nickreynolds8391 11 месяцев назад +1

      That introduction may have been the best meat eater intro ever

  • @Verywell15
    @Verywell15 3 года назад +52

    Animal: *exists*
    Steve: “those things are badasses man”

  • @simonbutler5927
    @simonbutler5927 3 года назад +135

    Proud kiwi here. Hunting is a universal language!

    • @BushcraftJones
      @BushcraftJones 3 года назад +1

      @Rob Rob The hat is from first lite, but it looks like the jacket and pants are from Kuiu. Some kind of softshell material. Probably the line that is called "guide".

    • @shanelonergan1792
      @shanelonergan1792 3 года назад

      Aw jesus ye cant leave us hanging like that 😂

    • @diarmok1549
      @diarmok1549 3 года назад +1

      Shane Lonergan are ye irish like me self

    • @shanelonergan1792
      @shanelonergan1792 3 года назад +1

      @@diarmok1549 I am indeed

    • @phoenixmastm
      @phoenixmastm 3 года назад +4

      And you guys have some amazing country to hunt in! I'd love to visit.

  • @ulrok6799
    @ulrok6799 3 года назад +504

    The amount of content is insane for the last few weeks. Good Job!

    • @HBBreakdowns
      @HBBreakdowns 3 года назад +13

      He’s gotta make up for only putting 3 hunts on Netflix lol he went from 10 episodes each a different hunt to 6 episodes and 2 episodes per hunt

    • @averagekiwibloke3436
      @averagekiwibloke3436 3 года назад +5

      They have released s1 and 2 on the website if u don't wanna wait

    • @Nick1182
      @Nick1182 3 года назад +4

      How good is it. These last few make me want to hop across to NZ

    • @TheRassyClan.
      @TheRassyClan. 3 года назад +7

      He probably got a tahr pig and red stag all in a weekend damn I love my country

    • @aidansharples7751
      @aidansharples7751 3 года назад +1

      @@TheRassyClan. Was gonna say aye brotha, make a few episodes a day here on the regular.

  • @corypope7400
    @corypope7400 3 года назад +159

    I’m a more novice hunter, even though I grew up around hunting. This past weekend I was hunting with my cousin and he shot a small 6 point. We both learned how to field dress a deer, and after watching a lot of meat eater I decided to save the heart and try it. It was honestly really good. It felt good not to waste it. Thanks Steve 🙏

    • @Caseyw462
      @Caseyw462 3 года назад +3

      Awesome! Congrats on your new journey

    • @Monscent
      @Monscent 3 года назад

      Why would anyone waste hearts?!

    • @Master_Yoda1990
      @Master_Yoda1990 2 года назад

      yeah the heart is the best part of any animal, just so full of flavor.

    • @Master_Yoda1990
      @Master_Yoda1990 2 года назад +1

      ​​@@Monscent There's actually quite a few non hunters who think any organs are gross or similar to keeping organ like the stomach without trying it. It's the grocery store mind set.

    • @StrangeTamer178
      @StrangeTamer178 Год назад

      ​@@Master_Yoda1990 how do u cook it? I've ate the liver of some of my bucks and it's pretty simple

  • @25TheCaveMan
    @25TheCaveMan 3 года назад +55

    NZ seems kinda like a place that time forgot...and that's a good thing

    • @timford682
      @timford682 3 года назад +12

      Yep and it rocks. Off for a hunt tomorrow after work. No permit needed

    • @garrymcdonald5456
      @garrymcdonald5456 2 года назад +3

      Imagine what it was like before man arrived 800 years ago, moas which are about double the size of ostriches, haast eagles that use to swoop down on moas and take the smaller ones away (biggest eagle ever) and the noise was deafening with bird song apparently. Then Maori came and ate all the moas which also made the haast eagle extict . My home country was really fucked up by man.

  • @Anu-dn7hb
    @Anu-dn7hb 3 года назад +81

    That next episode better be up today, the suspense is killing me

  • @acmund
    @acmund 3 года назад +21

    The opening monologue was perfect.

  • @joshstamey4136
    @joshstamey4136 3 года назад +10

    Steve's "embrace the suck" face crossing the river is epic! Thanks for great content.

  • @nedbella
    @nedbella 3 года назад +17

    I'm really enjoying these New Zealand episodes. Teaming up with Remi is super entertaining and as a non hunter like me, it's educational. Thank you.

  • @Cezzzrlandin
    @Cezzzrlandin 3 года назад +30

    Who needs Netflix! Favorite show no competition

    • @Cezzzrlandin
      @Cezzzrlandin 3 года назад +1

      @AARON HALONEN not this content,which is why I said who needs Netflix

    • @ecs3821
      @ecs3821 3 года назад +3

      Fuck Netflix they have taken everything good down and of course the one good show (this one) and they only have seasons 7-9 or something stupid like that. Seriously fuck Netflix I stopped giving them my money bc it’s really a waste and I wish other people would stop giving them money too so maybe they’ll stop being so arrogant and put content back out

    • @JakeLovesSteak
      @JakeLovesSteak 3 года назад +3

      They'd rather be woke than profitable.

    • @SnailHatan
      @SnailHatan 2 года назад

      @@JakeLovesSteak Yeah, almost like morals are more important than money or something. Crazy, I know.

    • @antonyevans9772
      @antonyevans9772 2 года назад

      @@SnailHatan Woke and moralistic are not the same thing to be fair.

  • @chrisoconnor5880
    @chrisoconnor5880 3 года назад +17

    I’ve mustered sheep in that country, and was a shearer in Canterbury, spent 40 years in those mountains, or we called them hills

  • @Exses3D
    @Exses3D 3 года назад +5

    MORE hunts with Remi Please. Also his Podcast Cutting the Distance is AMAZING!!

  • @klaplante540
    @klaplante540 3 года назад +2

    More respect for Steve than any other man on the planet. Thank you.

  • @jonas-om3th
    @jonas-om3th 3 года назад +11

    Basic info on climbing harnesses: Those loops you guys cliped into are not meant to hold any weight. They are meant to clip your gear on. If you tie in always do it on the front, the loops on the side will break very easily

    • @ldvan100
      @ldvan100 3 года назад

      Yhen you've goy a piece of shit rig... My tower rig will hold wherever I tie or clip to...

    • @thue
      @thue 3 года назад +2

      Looks like he's actually clipped into his belay loop or hard point at 16:48.

  • @the_bike_kid4055
    @the_bike_kid4055 3 года назад +112

    SO U GUYS ARE JUST GONNA LEAVE USS THERE THANKS BRO BLESS STEVEN

    • @rhelferstay
      @rhelferstay 3 года назад +15

      Steve dies in this episode :(

    • @PigeonLAR2
      @PigeonLAR2 3 года назад +18

      @@rhelferstay that's a pretty shitty thing to joke about.. go fuck yourself.

    • @509Gman
      @509Gman 3 года назад +1

      You get what you pay for

    • @NightmaresGirl
      @NightmaresGirl 3 года назад +5

      STEVE IS DEAD CONFIRMED
      He was just on JRE hahah

    • @rhelferstay
      @rhelferstay 3 года назад +9

      @@PigeonLAR2 Damn, cut back on the soy. It was a joke, he obviously didn't die in this episode, this is Season 2 of 9 and he was just on JRE.
      You must be the asshole at the comedy clubs who goes on Twitter the next morning and calls for the comedian to be cancelled because you were "offended".
      Grow a pair.

  • @tcu2017
    @tcu2017 3 года назад +78

    Hunting and fishing are a human right. Change my mind

    • @ethannelson5320
      @ethannelson5320 3 года назад +12

      I don’t want to change your mind

    • @jeffewart4381
      @jeffewart4381 3 года назад +9

      Like Steve says in his intro, it's what we're meant to do.

    • @calvinburns6024
      @calvinburns6024 3 года назад +4

      I don't see anything wrong with that

    • @magottx
      @magottx 3 года назад +4

      what is the point of this comment? You must really be searching for an argument

    • @tcu2017
      @tcu2017 3 года назад +16

      @@magottx not familiar with memes?

  • @davidsuarez7090
    @davidsuarez7090 3 года назад +43

    Just in time for my lunch break, thanks !!

  • @johnnyh537
    @johnnyh537 2 года назад +2

    Just started watching this and im hooked. People think hunting is cruel but watching this its taught me its a way of life. Its necessary. They really care about these animals as its their food

  • @andrenorth5446
    @andrenorth5446 3 года назад +4

    So good to know that Steve has been down here hunting in New Zealand. He's welcome back whenever he cares to come. Theres lots of different hunting experiences available here for the beginner to expert level hunters.

  • @Eric-gi9kg
    @Eric-gi9kg 3 года назад +3

    Steve..
    Your opening statement was..HELL IS SPOT ON.
    First time I went "hunting", I had zero idea what I was getting into. My first time was with friends..scared out of my mind on what, where, when or how...But was also seriously amped up for the excitement, thrill, and beauty of it all.
    That was over 30 years ago. The thrill and excitement are still to be had. It's ALWAYS a joy to be able to hear, smell and watch the wilderness come alive while you sit and glass a ridge.

  • @bushpilot223
    @bushpilot223 3 года назад +5

    I cannot express how happy I am that this channel has taken the direction that it has. There's constantly new amazing content, and now they're even uploading old episodes of MeatEater. It's awesome!!! I hope they upload some old episodes of The Wild Within later on! Thank you to everyone who has made this happen!

  • @alexngatai8148
    @alexngatai8148 2 года назад +2

    So glad to call new Zealand home. Born, breed and will continue to hunt from this land.

    • @sibanought
      @sibanought 2 года назад

      Me too !!
      Kia kaha Bro !!!

  • @jamesmcdermott7642
    @jamesmcdermott7642 3 года назад +2

    That opening is beautiful

  • @ApeHead122
    @ApeHead122 2 года назад +3

    There has never been a better show created

  • @mayvel4851
    @mayvel4851 2 года назад +2

    Man these mountains look beautiful underneath the stars. NZ seems like a great place to be.

  • @melissamihaere7611
    @melissamihaere7611 2 года назад +2

    Never hunted in my life yet, here I am enjoying this channel.

  • @masonepolk
    @masonepolk 2 года назад +2

    steve your monologues are unparalleled

    • @nickreynolds8391
      @nickreynolds8391 11 месяцев назад

      That opening monologue, as brief as it was, was incredible.

  • @skar5541
    @skar5541 3 года назад +10

    Love it. Before, trying to stay dry. Now made the kill. The animal is the most important. Swim if they have to. Such respect. Hunters are hugely underrated conservationists.

    • @nilankumarage9589
      @nilankumarage9589 3 года назад +1

      @Matt allen i guess it does depend on the species tho

    • @swamptosoundadventures8337
      @swamptosoundadventures8337 3 года назад

      It shouldn’t depend on anything, if you killed it you have an obligation to do everything in your power to get it

    • @skar5541
      @skar5541 3 года назад

      @@swamptosoundadventures8337 . Wasn't disputing that in any way. What's your point dude?.

    • @swamptosoundadventures8337
      @swamptosoundadventures8337 3 года назад

      @@skar5541 I agree with what you said. I meant that to what Matt said that you should leave cause it taste bad.

    • @nilankumarage9589
      @nilankumarage9589 3 года назад

      @@swamptosoundadventures8337 yeh no exactly mate I agree with that, I thought the other bloke meant just don't hunt at all, leave them in the wild. I hunt fox and pig and make every possible effort to collect my kill

  • @kiakingofcars
    @kiakingofcars 3 года назад +2

    Its 2:30am and I'm sitting here eating a can of flaked turkey thinking " yeah I could do that" 🙄

  • @NobodyUR
    @NobodyUR 3 года назад +2

    Not a big hunter. I do occasionally but I love anything this fella does from podcasts to this show. That says something to his talent to entertain someone who has no real dog in it

  • @tommypark2522
    @tommypark2522 2 года назад +1

    He is fully up there with the best when it comes to clear concised and powerful narration and introductions

  • @BobJones20001
    @BobJones20001 3 года назад +13

    Steve was right on the money when talking about the competing thoughts when I'm about to go high in the Alps. There is clear danger, and there is a drive to head high to enjoy the mountains and bring home some meat. He summarised it perfectly for me. I've hunted that area a lot, so many peaceful nights making my way down to the ute/camp with a heavy pack, groaning knees, sweating back, and light smile on my face. Good times.

    • @hotbaconbap6485
      @hotbaconbap6485 2 года назад

      Something inside us that sadly a lot of people have seemed to have lost.

  • @playingbfrank
    @playingbfrank 3 года назад +3

    How can anyone dislike a video that has Steven Rinella preaching his wisdom

  • @timothyburton5943
    @timothyburton5943 3 года назад +7

    Great to see you guys made it over to little old New Zealand for a visit and a hunt. Tahr are my favourite animal to hunt here in the mountains and wicked to see you got out there too. Keep the content coming meateaters!!

  • @MeanLaQueefa
    @MeanLaQueefa 3 года назад +2

    I remember sitting at the foothills of the Southern Alps when a few Tahr bolted out from the trees behind me. Scared the hell out of me, first time seeing one. Also, the South Island of NZ is really one of those magical places on Earth. It really has a spiritual force.

  • @Jim_Lewis_Venni_Vendetta
    @Jim_Lewis_Venni_Vendetta 3 года назад +2

    Last month I commented on one of your vids saying you should try Tahr hunting in NZ! I am pleased you got to experience what us Southern Alps hunters endure for fun!

  • @mariahbonner5320
    @mariahbonner5320 3 года назад +3

    Please let part two come within a couple days!!!! These are my two favorite hunters and them collabing again is a freakin dream!!!

  • @dakkarocka
    @dakkarocka 3 года назад +2

    Bang bang. I don't even hunt, but the show is good.

  • @slapneck77
    @slapneck77 2 года назад +2

    Steven your words are constantly what I am feeling.I salute you in your journey,and thank you for your videos.

  • @danielebima355
    @danielebima355 3 года назад +10

    Beautiful episode and beautiful landscape, similar to our European Alps! Greetings from an italian chamois hunter!

    • @RL18877
      @RL18877 3 года назад

      American guy here lol. What do chamois taste like?

    • @danielebima355
      @danielebima355 3 года назад +1

      @@RL18877 It tastes like goat, more or less... The old ones have a strong flavor, maybe too much for today's taste: as usual the younger, the better

    • @RL18877
      @RL18877 3 года назад +1

      @@danielebima355 thanks for telling me. I've always been curious.

  • @nicholassmith8212
    @nicholassmith8212 3 года назад +3

    Love the show Steve, love Janis Remi and all the people on the show, thank you for everything

  • @tuddsmithers7101
    @tuddsmithers7101 3 года назад +2

    Oh that’s cold!

  • @blaynemacpherson8519
    @blaynemacpherson8519 3 года назад +10

    When Steve says it’s to hair or he’s not feeling it. You know it’s bad.

  • @minne-baypackings2622
    @minne-baypackings2622 3 года назад +4

    Crossing that river reminds me of my dad telling me how he had to get to school every day... both ways.

  • @rustindudley3564
    @rustindudley3564 3 года назад +10

    I knew I should have waited for all the hunts to come out . anytime I see a. Part 1 I know I should wait for the rest to binge

    • @randysparks1271
      @randysparks1271 3 года назад

      True, but it's MeatEater. Can you really resist?

  • @the7cYeti
    @the7cYeti 3 года назад +1

    If I was chest deep in a river, I'd be glad Remi was holding the rope. Epic hunt man, love it when you two team up.

  • @Logan-cw9yr
    @Logan-cw9yr 3 года назад +1

    Duo of the two best in the business, and a two-parter? WE ARE NOT WORTHY!🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @garrymcdonald5456
    @garrymcdonald5456 Год назад +2

    That's what I miss the most about home, the huts. They are literally everywhere and each one has it's own character. I am more of a hiker and the way it goes is each hut is about 2-6 hours away from the next on each track , so you walk from hut to hut. There are about 1000 of them scattered throughout NZ.

  • @anthonyrowell3122
    @anthonyrowell3122 3 года назад +2

    Putting New Zealand on my list of areas to hunt!

  • @kittykatking28
    @kittykatking28 Год назад +1

    That was absolutely beautiful worded in the beginning of the episode. You’re a the epitome of what it is to be a amazing person and a hunter.

    • @nickreynolds8391
      @nickreynolds8391 11 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe the best meat eater intro ever

  • @lonnywilcox445
    @lonnywilcox445 3 года назад +7

    I once swam an ice floe covered river for a duck. It was some time before I could pee standing up again.

  • @joddeveloper7643
    @joddeveloper7643 3 года назад +1

    the stories they share and he listens to everytime he goes hunting

  • @natlovell122
    @natlovell122 Год назад

    Steve and Remi together! Can you imagine the amount of outdoor/hunting knowledge these 2 have between them. Would love just an hour to chat with them about all of their experiences. A couple of class acts!

  • @machinegun333
    @machinegun333 3 года назад +4

    So glad you're uploading the older series here, thanks alot!

  • @RedEyedJack
    @RedEyedJack 3 года назад +1

    This is the best content channel on all of RUclips, now of we could only get the podcasts shared on here.

  • @Stempy
    @Stempy 3 года назад +1

    That cliff hanger though... My 8 year old is not happy haha

  • @BrandonPrive1432
    @BrandonPrive1432 3 года назад +2

    RIP to the canada goose, my homeland brother! it might not be our national beaver but it feel pretty close! RIP little buddy! lol.

  • @kaevekplays1903
    @kaevekplays1903 3 года назад +4

    What a crazy ending!

  • @tyler9064
    @tyler9064 3 года назад +2

    Steve youre a crazy dedicated bastard. I love it.

  • @dcphil2743
    @dcphil2743 3 года назад +12

    Steven's description of high mountain hunting isn't far from the feeling a person gets mountaineering. As a new hunter and long-time climber, I'm excited to learn the disciplines intersect.

    • @MrSeandecaire
      @MrSeandecaire 3 года назад +1

      As a long time climb or you didn’t pick up on how poorly they rigged to a gear loop a leg loop with the gri gri and belayed them out into the river on non-rated Newton pieces of gear

  • @johnburn872
    @johnburn872 3 года назад +2

    I don’t even hunt but I’m so glad I found this show I love the host!

  • @Rodolflous
    @Rodolflous 3 года назад +2

    Thank's Steven

  • @WaziYolo
    @WaziYolo 3 года назад +3

    "I'll swim if I have to." 😂😂😂

  • @johnj5985
    @johnj5985 3 года назад +1

    Aside from the local wild table fare in NZ, Canada goose has got to be one of my favorite fowl. Good shooting!

  • @luisbarrueta8207
    @luisbarrueta8207 3 года назад +1

    Man, I'm hooked on this show... The best hunting show I've seen...

  • @papi700
    @papi700 3 года назад +4

    Awesome content! Two of the most interesting and inspiring hunters in my opinion and the two of them together is the dynamic duo I’ve been waiting for but never expected..thank you👏

  • @HuntingFlorida
    @HuntingFlorida 3 года назад +1

    Cant believe they left us hanging.

  • @29chhangte
    @29chhangte 3 года назад +1

    Those rocks are beautiful...

  • @midnight5895
    @midnight5895 3 года назад +1

    Jesus christ, what a thrilling cliffhanger. I'm so glad I can watch the next episode directly O.o

  • @girafetica493
    @girafetica493 3 года назад +1

    Gosh, I thought sitting in a stand and waiting for deer to come by was hunting, now this is REAL RAW hunting

  • @modavid8359
    @modavid8359 3 года назад +5

    What a cliff hanger 😂😂😂 I was so into it

  • @boatsandhoes4346
    @boatsandhoes4346 2 года назад +1

    Man I cracked up when I seen the goose as a hood ornament

  • @phangercha9555
    @phangercha9555 3 года назад +3

    This just gets me too hyped! I love the thrill and the meaning to every hunt. To really explore and to take advantage of the nature that we have and the experiences that comes! Cant wait to see the next one

  • @ruslanl4577
    @ruslanl4577 2 года назад +1

    Pure suffering this one! :D So fun to watch this from the comfort of your home

  • @daltonprecht5209
    @daltonprecht5209 3 года назад +2

    Didn't realize it was from today until i seen the to be continued and went to check for a follow up.

  • @friedrice69
    @friedrice69 3 года назад +4

    NZ is beautiful!!

  • @erikmurray3661
    @erikmurray3661 3 года назад +1

    Steve has the most excellent life.

  • @vtecsux1
    @vtecsux1 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for visiting our quiet corner of the world. Hope to see more from you gathering kai in Aotearoa. Chur Steve and the ME team.

  • @jayowens9434
    @jayowens9434 3 года назад +2

    I watched the second episode and well you guys are bad ass brother! My mouth was watering!!!!

  • @loudmouf9246
    @loudmouf9246 3 года назад +2

    Chamois are so mysterious. Loved this episode!

  • @shadyp-zv3uf
    @shadyp-zv3uf 3 года назад +3

    Man...I can't wait to see the rest of this hunt

  • @macsmith2092
    @macsmith2092 3 года назад +2

    Good stuff.

  • @jamesstolzel3193
    @jamesstolzel3193 3 года назад +2

    Helluva intro monologue!

  • @JoshuaJohnson-pq7hf
    @JoshuaJohnson-pq7hf 3 года назад +1

    So grateful for these uploads during COVID. Takes the mind off and allows it to wander to better and more fruitful times. God bless, prayers and peace over Steven Rinella and Remi Warren and the whole MeatEater family.,

    • @ScottGiltrap
      @ScottGiltrap 3 года назад

      That's the other thing NZ has got.."Basically No COVID!"... We still go hunting each week. I got 3 Fallow deer this week and I'll be going hunting again in a few days to chase the Sika deer.

  • @DallasRSnider
    @DallasRSnider 3 года назад +1

    Cliff hangers for days

  • @toddmiles1724
    @toddmiles1724 3 года назад +2

    I wonder if Steve writes all his voice over material? I tell you what he has been an inspiration along with everybody else on meat eater for me too purchase off grid land and move toward subsistence living! I would eventually love to provide all of the meat my family eats from the wild. taking steps in that direction have been very exciting!

  • @joshduncan9720
    @joshduncan9720 3 года назад +12

    As a Canadian, that Canada goose moment was weird. It was cool to see but also felt like an attack on my nation

    • @sibanought
      @sibanought 2 года назад +1

      And as a Kiwi, the countless hundreds of thousands of Canada geese destroying our environment and agriculture feels like an attack on OUR nation.
      Perhaps in the interest of international relations you could take them back to Canada?

  • @kevinwinkler7116
    @kevinwinkler7116 3 года назад +3

    No! No cliffhangers! 😆 Thats not right. How will I focus on whitetail hunting now!

  • @lykpalegic
    @lykpalegic 3 года назад +1

    Steve Fever, rocks the wilderness, even when he's in Mile City?? Or N Zed....

  • @max917
    @max917 3 года назад +2

    Definitely one of my favourite episodes.

  • @johnathanflannagan2407
    @johnathanflannagan2407 3 года назад +1

    Can’t wait for the box set of this show.

  • @littlestewie9699
    @littlestewie9699 3 года назад +1

    I just love when you look at the car in the beginning the goose is just their

  • @keithwise2855
    @keithwise2855 3 года назад +1

    As a kiwi i am loving this. Thankyou

  • @friedrice69
    @friedrice69 3 года назад +26

    I’d do anything to go hunting with Steve.

    • @geoffmorris6853
      @geoffmorris6853 3 года назад +4

      Amateur hunter completely agreeing, it’s tuff being a self taught hunter.

    • @Heywoodjablowme2
      @Heywoodjablowme2 3 года назад +2

      @@geoffmorris6853 that is so true!

  • @zoramdinthara3039
    @zoramdinthara3039 2 года назад +1

    Such a great show to watch, thanks Steve for your efforts.

  • @ivoutdoors5989
    @ivoutdoors5989 3 года назад +1

    Have loved season two! Thanks for posting.

  • @skyeshore5704
    @skyeshore5704 3 года назад +2

    Such a great show. Please keep these videos coming!

  • @_israelpizana
    @_israelpizana 3 года назад +2

    Hell of a way to end an episode! Cant wait for part 2

  • @peterpage9017
    @peterpage9017 3 года назад +2

    I've crossed a river in NZ just like that. It's so dangerous.